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[–]nucky36243688386 points387 points388 points 5 years ago* (25 children) | Copy Link
Sad, just sad. Where was the massive female player base EA was told of? They really let poor EA and Dice down; so harsh.
[–][deleted] 119 points120 points121 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I guess if you are going to pander, at least make sure the group you are pandering to is receptive.
Ironheart, femthor, spiderwomen, etc
Then blame men as if women have no autonomy/purchasing power and are not >50% of the population. If a product fails its because neither gender ought it, yet I don't hear people attacking women for not supporting this sort of thing.
If companies were making content for women that women were excited about, it wouldn't matter if men bought any of it.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Baby simulator and Dirty secrets.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. They failed to do their due diligence and research the market they were trying to pander to. What dumb cunts.
[–]EvilPencil5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It's kinda funny, back in the day, marketing departments used to identify a target market segment and GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANTED.
Nowadays they identify a market segment that "needs to be taught a lesson," write the game accordingly (and such that it will OFFEND the target market), and tells their audience NOT TO BUY IT if they're so offended.
And SURPRISE, it doesn't sell... 🙈
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
they do want women to buy more games. thats the untapped market. they cant grow by pandering to people that bought the last few games in the series. In other words, maybe they just got greedy. The gender politics are just the scapegoat, a distraction. I didn't follow the game so it appears to depend on your take on it. did what they did truly offend so many people, or did they just make a shitty game.
Of course the thought police probably claim to know why any critics don't like the game
tbh though I cant think of a single game that hit some sort of identify politics based issue so hard that I wouldn't play it out of spite. when some TV shows went full sjw I stopped watching them, but that was more because they were no longer entertaining due to the hamfisted nature of what the were doing. if Diablo4 lore had frequent clips about how the evil patriarchy was the true evil. yeah I'd never buy that shit. Diablo being female in D3? yeah it was an eye-roll. bought the game and expansion.
Even the people that make the most noise about that shit prob still end up buying the games and just not admitting it. most people wont let their principles inconvenience them in the slightest.
[–]LJHova0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sales are down 63% compared to the previous version. Men, unlike women, will make decisions based on principle, even if it means having to sacrifice. That's what separates men from women in general. Its called integrity
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess I have a more pessimistic view of things and people as a whole. I think the main thing that differentiates the people isn't gender, its opportunity. acting like you have integrity out of fear of consequences is basically the opposite of integrity.
I wouldn't disagree with the sentiment that men put up with more bullshit from women so judging correctly that they can get away with something they just do it.
In other words men would do the same in instances where there were no consequences. in other words it seems more like accountability not integrity that you are pointing out.
Example: will women be late to work more often than men? if they can get away with it, yes. imo this pattern holds whenever people have what they feel to be "good excuses" for what I'd consider bad behavior, because the better a person thinks the excuse is, the less the anticipated consequences.
If there is any rigorous experiment which controls for anticipated consequences I'd love to read about it.
For example. the experiment with coffee and leaving a quarter in an office where a picture of eyes gives people the feeling they are being watched so they are more honest.
How do the results differ by gender if the eyes are the picture of a person? if its a picture of a mans face, would women leave the quarter less often? how about if its an unattractive mans face. If its a woman's face, would women leave the quarter more often?
[–]siege3420 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Candy crush?
[–]iVah1d98 points99 points100 points 5 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
In all my years of playing Battlefield franchise I've only played with 2 girls and they were not good players either, in other hand, in our clan we really worked on strategies to play it better, Battlefield wasn't just a quick play to us, we were dedicated players, none of us bought BFV. Not just because of women in it, but how they called 'uneducated' and 'misogynist' everyone who complained about implementation of women in the game, Battlefield 1 had also womens but why no one cared? Because they were put historically correct, there were female russian snipers, but these guys made a fool out themselves by these screaming cyborg women in V in every side if war, also all tankers and pilots are women in V... wth..
[–]fmanly47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I've only played with 2 girls and they were not good players either
I'm sure they were good at getting Twitch donations, or general attention from the other players...
[–]TristanIsSpiffy53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You don’t even have to actually be a woman online to get the attention. There’s multiple stories online where guys in GTA V will make female characters, not use their mic, and the online white knights will protect them like their real life was on the line
[–]BluetoothMcGee33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I created a female avatar for GTA Online. For once I'm the privileged gender. /s
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What is more sad, is that there is a ton of guys on Fallout 4, who make female characters. It's single player, so there is no point for them to make female characters.
I just don't get how men can be so cucked
[–]swapnilsathe116 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean, it's better to look at a nice piece of ass if you are going to stare at the character from behind for hours.
[–]Doogie767 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why I do it. I don't want to look at a man's ass for the next 60 hrs of game play
[–]StatisticaPizza0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've never been inclined to stare at my characters ass, but maybe that's just me.
[–]TheReidman11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The female Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 was voiced better, in my opinion.
[–]Coconuthead9328 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
EA: due to poor sales we will be canning this IP and studios associated with it
Ah, I can see it now.
[–]realChebz1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Studios are responsible for this trash just as much. Fuck them.
[–]squishles0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The cancer will simply be shuffled to other studios, they're a big company they do not have the grasp on their personnel to sift this sort of thing out if they wanted to.
[–]Aquilam18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have to say, I’m sometimes cringing at the posts on here, sometimes they can come off as petty and poorly phrased, but to put a woman dressed as a soldier for a conflict where the highest levels of carnage and suffering were inflicted by and on men is a slap in the face to anyone.
They’re trying to rewrite history, even if just aesthetically to appeal to a politically and historically incorrect audience.
Fuck you EA.
LOL
you're the first person I've seen mentioning female fan base letting down the EA/Dice. But that's what makes the most sense.
Everyone wants to blame guys for not buying it... wtf? how the fuck are men supposed to identify with a female character? ohhh thats right... maybe once there's more endocrine disrupters in our water & food supply and we've all been turned to trannies :P (i'm serious though about endocrine disrupters-- here's an example of an outspoken professors' research into the most widely used corn pesticide, "atrazine" -- https://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/pesticide-manufacturer-targeted-uc-berkeley-professor/Content?oid=3641149 )
EA/Dice-- what fucking morons.
Sounds like there's a need in the market for a non-SJW or anti-SJW gaming corporation.
[–]Iceklimber5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Females made two games profitable in the past decades (Sims & Candy Crush), so now all games must cater to them...
[–]Redpilled_MGTOW2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck EA. Rather buy CALL OF Duty, this is the beginning of end of EA Battelfield
[–]DemonGroover343 points344 points345 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Couldn't they have just released a SJW edition for all the fucktards
[–]shitfren163 points164 points165 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bought by 8 people. 7 trolls and a sjw retard that would cry nonetheless
[–]kingullu434 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you put aside all the SJW nonsense, has the game actually made any improvements on the previous game? From what I've heard and read, the answer is a resounding no. Perhaps instead of fighting this stupid feminist battle EA should be concentrating on improving their games. That is afterall how they became successful.
[–]Alpha_96 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am a huge fan Battlefield 1 and it is my absolute favorite FPS game, but I have to admit that the game play mechanics and map design in BF5 are a lot better than BF1.
But this is actually it. The visuals look a lot more "cartoonish" (with more details though), the audio is a complete joke compared to the phenomenal audio we received in BF1 (especially the OSTs, OMG are they so epic!), the classes aren't that balanced and many bugs and glitches from previous BF titles have showed up again.
[–]jrpark0530 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
SJWs have no money.
[–]robowriter1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yet they pander, and fail, unaware of that fact.
[–]Chairman_Ellen_Pao1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
SJWs gladly take taxpayers' money aka welfare.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, they attack the Germans with box cutters.
[–]death-loves-time7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
and also include and option for being overweight infantry or a tranny army commander
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whoa dude. Why dont you slow down and take a break from usin' that noggin'?
You trying to steal the Chief Marketing Officer's job much? (b/c if that mofo hasn't been fired yet it's about goddamn time)
seriously tho. that's a brilliant idea to please everyone (although fuck SJWs). Just a SJW expansion pack or whatever.
[–]MuleFool425 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy crap, best comment of the day. LOL. That was my laugh for the week.
[–]NightOuts272 points273 points274 points 5 years ago* (96 children) | Copy Link
Yea I read about this. Battlefield got smoked.
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/271407-ea-on-the-battlefield-v-backlash-accept-it-or-dont-buy-the-game
When EA unveiled the trailer for Battlefield V, a group of whining, grasping, misogynistic children on the internet lost their collective minds. Brave champions of WW2 accuracy mounted tanks, planes, and jeeps to blast Dice for daring to treat its fantasy shooter that happens to clothe itself in the faintest trappings of historical accuracy as if it was, in fact, a fantasy shooter. EA’s response to this onslaught is to invite these sad trolls to do exactly what they’re forever threatening to do: Namely, spend their dollars elsewhere.
[–]NewMunster377 points378 points379 points 5 years ago (86 children) | Copy Link
You can guarantee a follow up article will be "how toxic masculinity is killing the gaming industry".
[–]WWladCZ193 points194 points195 points 5 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
I love how they're trying to blame white men, alt right and toxic masculinity on poor sales. Truth is it's just a shitty game with tons of historical revisionism leading to nonsense like women on the front lines, black men (forgot the name of unit) being treated like subhuman in French army while they were equals, Norwegian campain with muh stong female character which is based in reality but twisted to fit feminist rhetoric and shits on memory of men that died on this mission.
[–]CodeOverflow59 points60 points61 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
TBH it's not even so much about the women, there were women in the war, if they showed that correctly everyone would be fine with it.
But the American women sniper with a robot hand? The black guy with a katana? They just went full retard with it.
[–][deleted] 54 points55 points56 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Women were nurses not frontline combat grunts
[–]CodeOverflow31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Russia had fighting women. Wasn't normal, but it happened.
[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Some of the best snipers were Russian women, but these developers want to rewrite history and make this seem like it was the standard occurrence everywhere
[–]CodeOverflow13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure they didn't have robot hooks for hands
[–]squishles1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but imagine how much money they saved not animating a hand.
[–]J_the_Assassin11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
There were also afro-Germans who fought for the nazis. Some came from America, others from Africa, some from their home nation of Germany itself. There were about 540,000 Afro Germans living in Germany at the time, which is a small percentage to its 82 mil population.
Not a lot, but it happened. There were black nazis.
I have actual family documents proving this.
[–]ScrewWomyn4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
540k is still a massive number. WW2 was several decades before globalism and immigration from third world becoming common. Also how did they even get to Germany?
[–]t353tfb4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They didn't swim there, that's for sure.
[–]Cristoff131 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One reason would be that Germany had colonies in Africa before ww1.
[–]NewMunster1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also how did they even get to Germany?
Germany had colonies in West and East Africa prior to the Great War. Tanzania, Cameroon, and Namibia were all former German colonies.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolute diservice to WW2 veterans everywhere
[–]SwoopDaWooo38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its especially bad considering how awesome/intense the actual stories surrounding these events are. At least they sorta got one right with the French campaign, but there was still a lot of dumb shit shoe horned in.
Even disregarding the revisionism in the campaigns, the multiplayer feels like a modern shooter with a WW2 skin slapped on it. I do like some of the changes they made, but the lack of faction specific weapons and the rarity of bolt action rifles in favor of automatic weapons really kills the immersion and flavor of the game. The $30 sale seems like the price its actually worth. Certainly not worthy of the $60 AAA price tag.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BF has been the same engine since the late 90's. You're paying for a used vehicle with a new paint job.
[–]WhatMixedFeelings29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Surprised EA didn't sprinkle some trannies in there. Not politically correct enough!
[–]umizumiz23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Their entire logic revolves around these terrible, terrible white men BEING 50% OF THE CUSTOMERS of these games. So, what they're saying, half of all gamers are racist white men.
And they want them back, for some reason.
It's all bs.
[–]AngryPixelHunter14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah the story was an assault on a German Plant that was involved in the production of secret weapons. It was done by a Norwegian and British Commandos, not by a Resistanc fighter girl who single handedly destroyed a big part of it.
[–]NewMunster0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wasn't even a German plant involved in secret weapons production, it was a hydroelectric plant that manufactured heavy water, which the Germans were using for their nuclear weapons program.
[–]brother_dreadly15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Females are the default sex for many of the classes (you can swap to male soldiers, but the option is buried/not immediately apparent). And, among the worst of it, is the "call medic" period after a player is downed in combat. Matches are full of nothing but screaming women.
[–]Zippy177618 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Matches are full of nothing but screaming women.
That alone is enough for me to not buy the game. Not being hateful, one just can't exist around constant cackling.
[–]ZavalasBounty16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In Skyrim, I play as a female because I like to look at their asses and bewbs. Nothing sexy about a claw arm, though.
[–]ALargeRock79 points80 points81 points 5 years ago (59 children) | Copy Link
It's scary how accurate you are, and how predictable this all is.
https://mashable.com/2018/05/01/god-of-war-video-game-industry-representation/#qD8bfVzugsqG
"[B]ringing back Kratos after a decade of being a raging pile of toxic masculinity to start a new journey at the expense of yet another woman... shows that the writers/designers making these games aren’t actively working to get rid of that hypermasculinity from games," Shawn Alexander Allen, a video games writer, designer, and developer said. "Dressing it up in the guise of 'sad dad' who has the need to bottle up emotions, to treat his child with harshness and distance, who has the inability to ever really atone for any of his selfish murder spree is just terrible." The inciting incident that sets God of War's chariot wheels in motion is the death of Atreus' mother/Kratos' significant other. Such an important character, who is mentioned often through the story, is never even given a face, let alone a voice. You only see her still form, wrapped in ceremonial fabric, ready for the pyre. For a game, for an experience based completely around the death of a woman, she is given almost no actual presence in it.
"[B]ringing back Kratos after a decade of being a raging pile of toxic masculinity to start a new journey at the expense of yet another woman... shows that the writers/designers making these games aren’t actively working to get rid of that hypermasculinity from games," Shawn Alexander Allen, a video games writer, designer, and developer said.
"Dressing it up in the guise of 'sad dad' who has the need to bottle up emotions, to treat his child with harshness and distance, who has the inability to ever really atone for any of his selfish murder spree is just terrible."
The inciting incident that sets God of War's chariot wheels in motion is the death of Atreus' mother/Kratos' significant other. Such an important character, who is mentioned often through the story, is never even given a face, let alone a voice. You only see her still form, wrapped in ceremonial fabric, ready for the pyre. For a game, for an experience based completely around the death of a woman, she is given almost no actual presence in it.
[–]TheImpossible1101 points102 points103 points 5 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
at the expense of a woman
These people are so transparent about what they want.
They want every character to be a strong independent wymyn.
[–]Chemoralora[S] 42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's totally fine for hundreds of men to be killed in video games, but as soon as its a woman...
[–]nelsonbt27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excuse me, that’s an out of date term, you swine. It’s wyxyx now.
[–]BoskOfPortKar24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
They want every character to be a strong independent wymyn
Men must never encourage such stupid shits even though it has become that much difficult to watch series / play games since then.
[–]TheImpossible14 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Where do you draw the line, that's the problem. Do you boycott everything with women in it?
[–]BoskOfPortKar12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
I try as much as possible but badass wymyn are a red line for instance. The good thing is you will waste less time watching tv or playing video games... plus richer.
Stopped Start Trek last series at ep 4 because of this. Did not watch Voyager either.
Had some difficulties to go through Mindhunter also but finally made it (some redpills in it)
Thinking about stopping "Punisher" after 2 episodes because of the female inspector.
Will try Lost in Space but I am quite sure will be the same.
2 manly series about MGTOW figures worth my time:
Manhunt: unabomber
Frontier
[–]massy52510 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lost in Space
You won't make it past half of the first episode.
[–]Fabianstrategy14 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lost in space: Dad: Don't do that. Everyone else: We did exactly the opposite, please save us.
[–]Igortheignorent1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
truth. and it only gets worse.
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Atomic Blonde was actually quite good. Theron gets the shit knocked out of her in that movie and is believable as a bad ass. She is no dainty woman like that ridiculous Rey in Star Wars. Rey is truly unwatchable
[–]Tehbailiff2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
SPOILER - The mother in Lost in Space is the worst character ever!
I actually think Captain Janeway is really good though. She isnt really portrayed as a replacement for a man and fits the role well. I also love star trek to I am biased so who knows?
Star Trek Discovery is complete trash though
[–]MGTOWJayJay1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mindhunter their mothers caused them to become serial killers, the red pill is that it was the women’s fault how they raised their sons. All their stories was how their mothers fucked them up mentally. Single mothers nontheless.
If you watch it again listen to their stories how their mothers were so cruel and abusive to them and they killed those victims because it somehow tied them to their mothers.
[–]BoskOfPortKar0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ho yes I noticed it ;=) Among other things !
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[–]TheImpossible10 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm not disputing that, but these people are good at hiding it. Where do you draw the line?
It's easy to boycott every obvious feminist propaganda piece like Ocean's 8 but they're not all that brazen that they'll actively show you what they stand for.
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[–]TheImpossible10 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What I'm trying to say is what do we define as unacceptable. Is the ability to play as a woman always unacceptable?
I've always sat on the fence with things like Fortnite and CoD allowing playing as a woman in multi-player. I'm not really bothered, just don't want to play as one, so I'll use other skins. (Side note, fuck the people who suggested Calamity and the others for season 6... Was all joke skins and women)
[–]dualizer10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
These people are so transparent about what they want. They want every character to be a strong independent wymyn.
There is an easy solution: Buy the games that contain the type of characters that you desire.
The problem rather is: This is not what these wymyn want. They instead want to patronize what games that other people play contain.
[–]TheImpossible111 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well that's what radical feminism has wanted for ages. They said they would one day destroy everything that served the patriarchy.
People tell me this shit is just a coincidence, but I'm not buying it. They've finally got themselves in position to ruin everything we love.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If they were at Marvel Comics Aunt May would be on FetLife as a BDSM mistress who whipped young privileged white cis men who had a MILF fixation
[–]TheImpossible1-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Is that what they're into?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yup - the SJWs anyway who are most of the staff
Well I'm not surprised they're degenerates.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The comics industry which also includes by extension the journalists is full of sexual deviants who make how they bust a nut (or ovary as the case may be) their defining characteristic in life and DEMAND recognition and accolades for it.
Apparently one’s method of achieving orgasm goes into their resume now. Except heterosexuals which are seen as Mini Hitlers.
[–]Docbear6442 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Wow.... How the hell does anyone come to the conclusion that Kratos or the latest God of War is a misogynystic game? He and Atreus don't mention the mother much at all and when they do it's with a sense of mourning and reverence EVERY time . The most important character in that game on the onset is the woman you don't see.
[–]wellimout69 points70 points71 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Just fyi, games journalists don't actually play the games they report on. In fact, they tend to hate games in general. What's going on is, they all got expensive college degrees and they all assumed they were going to do "important" work and have prestigious careers. They all believe they deserve to be in Washington and riding on air force one.
Unfortunately the only job they could actually get is writing about games. Every article they're forced to write is a reflection of their hatred over the "unfairness" of their plight.
[–]Docbear6433 points34 points35 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
WOW as a huge gamer I always assumed Games journalism was the dream job...I mean aside from having to speedrun multiple titles all the time playing and writing about videogames seemed like a sweet gig .
I never considered that games journalist were not gamers elevated to journalism but instead failed writers of other fields..
It makes a lot of sense why games journalism has been so shitty to me lately. I was very upset when the writers were slamming FarCry V for not being political enough when the game itself was fun as hell ... What kind of comment is that " Game was ok , explosions in america and shit but what about social commentary ?" . This explains my grievances with modern games journalism completely though . Growing up with MASSIVE gaming magazine collections I've been disappointed with game reviews quite a lot recently.
It USED to be good back in the 90s and into the 2000s. But the cultural shift happened when Obama became president.
He said he wanted to “fundamentally transform America”. Well he did. He made victimology a religion and a way of life.
[–]EvilPencil12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. They have some video of Anita Sarkeesian directly admitting to such posted over on KotakuInAction (Gamergate central).
[–]oirectine0012 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly why they latch on to the "cause" of making games "less misogynistic". That way, they feel like more than just a gaming journalist and might eventually find a way out.
And if they write about this enough, she might touch his peepee as a reward.
[–]InformalCriticism16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They understand neither storytelling, nor the gravity of their own dogmatic claims.
[–]Itisforsexy17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not giving attention to women is equivalent to death, thus it is misogynist. Of course, to give them attention is to objectify them, unless you make them the central protagonist of your story, in which case they can never lose or get hurt or else you support #violenceagainstwomens
In other words, you can never win because these are expert victims.
[–]Docbear6414 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women bitch... it's what they do ... they'll bitch because you love them , they'll bitch because you hate them , they'll bitch because you feel indifferent about them... no reason to give it anymore thought than that, I assume if a woman isn't bitching or complaining then she isn't breathing.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
For what it's worth the hardest bosses in the game are female, too.
[–]SSDan00725 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the hardest bosses in the game are female, too.
to prepare the young men mentally for the road ahead IRL.
[–]Docbear649 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
True that My friends kept warning me about the winged ones.... I thought I was prepared... I was NOT prepared lol. Fun fights though .
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Really well designed boss fights. Difficult but every time you died you know it's because you fucked up.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's just good game design. Nobody likes cheap deaths. It's part of why Dark Souls did so well imo, it stuck to its rules, and if you died it's because you fucked up.
[–]my_fellow_earthicans0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's disappointing, newest GOW difnt even have a sex scene like all the previous in the series. People shoving their politics in muh games
[–]shitfren30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
The gaming industry has to learn that the real customer dosn't give a single fuck if there is misogyny. They simply don't care if some sjw "gaming journalists" think this game is hurtful towards woman.
If the game is good then people will buy it. But if you force the customer to follow your own agenda then you will miss on that nice $$$.
How they can not get it is beyond me.
[–]Docbear6427 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not even about Misogyny... the oldest game franchises the Zeldas.. Marios , Dooms , Diablos, WOWS, Everquests, or whatever were transcendant of your individual background as an individual because they were telling you a story or showing you a world that immersed you completely as that character .
People are so focused on their identity politics today that they don't know how to get lost in games anymore that don't have a perfect avatar creator which they spend 2 hours on only to spend 2 more hours maybe playing the game.
Ask people why they loved those games and it wasn't because Mario looked like them as a Kid or Link for that matter .. hell people didn't know Samus was a woman until her helmet came off . it was all about becoming that character, overcoming the challenges, and feeling rewarded for seeing their story come to a conclusive end .
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hell people didn't know Samus was a woman until her helmet came off
Of course thats a negative for people that find fault with everything.
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[–]Docbear646 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a combo , Suits go out to hire # progressive devs... those progressive devs become the faces of the company and often times are in leadership positions . They make creative decisions which then affect the game design . game devs definitely have personal politics but most are so committed to the craft injecting their personal politics into it isn't the first move they go to... in fact back in the day the best way to not get hired or interviewed is to have a portfolio that showed you had an agenda...because your job is to make games... not make statements.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am just as happy playing the backlog of THOUSANDS of old existing games. In fact it’s a cost savings too.
[–]ALargeRock12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They get it. Don’t think for a second they don’t.
It’s all about pushing the narrative, truth or not.
[–]shitfren6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but they lose out on a lot of money. And no good reputation, no matter how good will safe your business if you don't make money.
So if they keep this trend up, they will get bankrupt in a few years imo (even with there huge part in this market). So i still stand by my opinion that they don't get it.
[–]ALargeRock3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True. It’s a bet, either they lose bigly or they get money and power beyond their wildest dreams.
Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what it seems like.
I hope massive layoffs happen and they lose their entire careers
[–]TheImpossible10 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Crazy theory : Feminist organizations are the ones who are paying for these constant flops.
[–]fmanly7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Stardusk just did a lengthy discussion on this very topic, where tech businesses are being driven by ideology more than dollars. Companies have always used propaganda, but in the past it was about making a buck. Now they'll actually use it when it costs them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQpevCbcNM
[–]shitfren0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thx for the link. Will watch it later
I hope they fail!!!
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
What the fuck. They won't be satisfied until every game is an animal crossing clone.
[–]NewMunster2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
SJW's are predictable people. They wonder why they get called NPC's when all they do is repeat the same talking points over and over.
What makes it more amusing is that they try and use eloquence to dress themselves and whatever tripe they write up as being some sort of undiscovered intellectual.
[–]Herban_Myth1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very interesting
[–]InformalCriticism15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's like they're so predictable they've been scripted to react to the players in predetermined ways. Like, non-player characters.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
funny this is probably the pattern
quote/exaggerate the views a handful of vocal idiots
create a caricature demonizing an entire gender
continue to pour gas on the fire by lumping anyone you offended by attacking their gender into that caricature.
at that point the caricature is a self reinforcing monster where every bad example gets included and magnified, rational reasonable disagreements get ignored.
its all a fiction where all roads lead to click-bait and confirmation bias.
I'd generally just roll my eyes at tokenism and blatant pandering and buy a game anyway if its a good game (no idea here) but once the stance taken is "you are a man so your opinion is invalid unless its positive" my money is also invalid and I'll just keep it.
TLDR blame poor reviews/sales on misogyny because its a with or against us position that gets you branded as a traitor to the tribe if you don't give it 100% support.
I know very little about the game but if the blame game is being played already thats not good.
[–]TryDoingSomethingNew3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of Vox Day's rules about sjws: they always double-down.
No admission of fault, just more of the same garbage.
[–]User-31f64a4e17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]thedeedsmaster15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
the trailer barely touched the surface of the cancer.
https://youtu.be/BAlAITCBprI
The story modes of battlefield 4 portray the real life events of ww2 with a VERY SOCIAL JUSTICE lens.
for instance operation gruoss, freshman and gunnerside which were were all involved with teams of men, was replaced by two women in the games story. just two strong independent wamman
[–]TheImpossible14 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just mentioned this elsewhere. They just went on about how it's not meant to be realistic.
There's a difference between making it unrealistic for the player's enjoyment (imagine how terrible a BF game would be if it was hyper-realistic) and making it unrealistic for a bullshit agenda. The job of the game is to stay true to the subject matter unless that affects gameplay detrimentally.
[–]SpaceCowboyBop0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In the announcement video, before showing the initial shit release trailer they actually said this is their most realistic ww2 portrayal ever. Environment wise maybe, but cyber women and erasing history is terrible.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Legitimately, all they had to do was say "it's a reimagining of WW2 with an alternate history path," or something to that effect, and most people wouldn't care. But they kept trying to push that the game would be historically accurate, when there's no way to make it so.
Sucks for the designers and programmers that dont give a fuck about the politics and just get caught in the middle because their marketing department tried to force a game. On the other hand, we got Atari the last time this happened... fuck, maybe we'll get a good company out of this?
[–]Apaullo358 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure, they have every right as game creators to make the game as they desire. But, that also means everyone else has the right to hate and not buy the WW2 fanfic.
[–]ZavalasBounty6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the perfect game for that one developer's 8 year old daughter though. I bet you she bought TWO copies.
[–]Paratam16174 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Battlefield games have ALWAYS attempted to be historically accurate. Since when was it a fucking fantasy shooter?!
I'll never understand how someone who owns any type of business thinks that this behavior is acceptable.
[–][deleted] 121 points122 points123 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I'll tell you one thing, I wanted this game real bad... But I decided not to buy it.
[–]Docbear64104 points105 points106 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
MeToo
[–]skeletorcares31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Pound
[–]GrizzlyLeather23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Me
[–]xxsolojxx21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]z2a1-94 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha.
[–]house_monkey13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
same
[–]SGTToodles7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep
[–]Whirrlz9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I want to play an old world war game right now but I'm staying strong and not getting it
[–]SpaceCowboyBop1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same bud. If we support this shit now we support their future efforts to make more shit games and insult the players saying we will buy anything and everything.
[–]Logiman437 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same
[–]xxsolojxx8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep
First battlefield I have not purchased. And honestly? Not even interested it doesn’t appeal to me...ironic right?
[–]redditrat99117 points118 points119 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"Accept it or don't buy the game"
Okay.
[–]death-loves-time10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
'dont buy the game' by itself in a phrase by the maker is a no no already maybe they knew the game would be shit from cut budgets and are just using this version to both satisfy to feminists and burn it down faster?
[–]Docbear641 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
shocked pikachu face
[–]TheSilentFire0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
EA
[–]MrBluePill113 points114 points115 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Once your credibility is gone, you have a hell of a job getting it back. EA Games is the next MySpace of gaming. They're dead and don't know it yet.
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[–]Lucasbacontaco17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I believe in the future ea will just be a sports game company
[–]Docbear6420 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
like how they started.... like how they should have stayed...
[–]BluetoothMcGee11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Believe it or not, EA used to treat their devs like music artists, with their names front and center in the games ("created by John Appleseed") and box art that resembled LP's. They actually once lived up to their name: Electronic Arts.
Sadly, those days are long gone.
Yep, along with NBA Live including WNBA lol
[–]BluetoothMcGee5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There have been little to no changes for those teams apart from jersey and roster updates and maybe 1/3 of the story mode. No additional teams, club competitions, or even club leagues.
What a waste.
[–]TheImpossible128 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If they die I hope Turn 10 buys the Burnout license.
Also Respawn should go alone again.
[–]Docbear643 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm ready for Pandemic to come back
[–]TheSilentFire1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just hope the Alice license lives.
Maybe some of the actually talented workers they have will give us Atari 2.0 after EA dies.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr96 points97 points98 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The SJW and feminist devs cannot create, only destroy. Every time some queefing beta started talking about wahmen in gaming, their products turned to be flaming dog shit.
No gamer looked at a game and thought "I can't play this because it has women in it" but most gamers will tell you to go fuck yourself with politics rammed in one's throat and have the devs virtue signal and attack them
[–]Docbear6433 points34 points35 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah how the fuck can anyone call the game industry sexist when Lara Croft, Samus Aran , Cortana, Dozens of fighting game characters, Princess Peach, Aloy , and dozens of other women characters are beloved and revered ?
SJW's fabricate so much shit that people buy into their lies instead of the shit staring them in the face. it's asinine.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
SJWs always lie. Their agenda can't hold up to even basic scrutiniy
[–]Experttradition6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What I just don't get is this trend of bastardizing things with forced feminism. Obviously, there were not many women at all on the fields of WW2. Ghostbusters was originally an all-male cast. Nobody would be upset if there were original female characters added to the universe, but just blatantly replacing men to "smash the patriarchy" is going to be taken poorly by dedicated fans.
[–]Docbear643 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've heard it's because women don't have a ton of creativity so the best way to make a female-focused form of entertain me is to take the basic framework of something a,man or men created and stuff it with as many women and female references as possible.
It explains Ghostbusters, oceans 8, and lots of feminist remakes .... then they get mad when people call the work soulless but really hadn't put more thought into it than "let's make Ghostbusters.... but with women! And half assed cameos from the male actors we loved from the original films"
[–]Experttradition1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The worst part is when they call the critics "misogynists" because the movie sucked. I can't wait until this age of man hatred comes to an end. My son deserves better.
Agreed except Aloy, she's about as dull as cardboard.
[–]Docbear6486 points87 points88 points 5 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
I was so ready to buy this too . World War 2 to me is one of the most fascinating global historical events that have happened on our planet. A coworker of mine recommended I watch Band of Brothers which was fantastic and I've ALWAYS loved Battlefield games more than the Call Of Duty franchise. So COD WW2 didn't scratch my WW2 game itch the way I wanted it too.
This was gonna be a day one buy for me , I didn't like the trailer when I first saw it but I do love DICE and figured no game scratches my FPS itch like the Battlefieeld games do ....
Then that Motherfucker had to call the fans uneducated and EA had to tell me that as a fan they didn't care for my purchase.....
In a year where there were plenty of other games that would welcome my uneducated dollars and at least wouldn't be so damn rude about my preferences as a game that was a fucking mistake. Red Dead , Pokemon, Super Smash Bros, and Assassins creed have made it rather easy not to buy Battlefield V.... So I guess I took their advice I won't be buying that shit until it's used and on clearance.
EA won't see a dime from me on this purchase if I can avoid it. Fuckin idiots.
[–]Toolman89011 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
pokemon? you mean that let's go pikachu or whatever? lol. is it actually good? i love the main pokemon games but i ignore all the side things they do as money making gimmicks
[–]Docbear649 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup ! I dig it, the only thing is you fling pokeballs at pokemon to catch them instead of battling them in the wild ( it can be a lot harder than it sounds) otherwise it's a 3D pokemon yellow .
I only really played the first two generations ( Yellow, blue, red, silver, and gold) so it's right up my alley . I think if you like pokemon you'll appreciate it .
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Red Dead is one of the biggest disappointments of my life. I absolutely hate that game. I tried online last night and it’s going back to GameStop tonight. Can’t stand it.
That's a shame it definitely seems to be a love it or hate it game . I really enjoy it but I know lots of people who don't
[–]Mauzeraut88 points89 points90 points 5 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
What doubly sucks is if they wanted a female protagonist so bad they could have used the Night Witches (female soviet snipers), or female sappers in the French resistance, and I don't think either of them have gotten a lot of facetime in gaming so it would have been a fairly original take.
But no. Gotta be a la femme cyborg.
Even more hilarious is that said female cyborg would have been fine in the Wolfenstein universe (granted, not EA, but still), but they had to go and start a dumpster fire in what's always been a realistic universe.
[–]Chemoralora[S] 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
They could've easily averted this thing by making it a spinoff and saying its alternate history. But making it the sequel to a series famed for its historical accuracy?
[–]JeffreyIndy19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Night witches was soviet pilots... not snipers... please don’t spread false information
[–]tw-1234a14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Night witches was soviet pilots...
Yup. Combat pilots that scared the shit out of the Germans. They get their due credit.
[–]Zwartehond655 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL IN SILENCE
[–]DarkRogue211 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
CAST THEIR SPELLS EXPLOSIVE VIOLENCE
[–]vivab0rg3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed. The Night Witches is truly Hollywood material. I'm surprised it's not a full feature film already.
[–]Mauzeraut0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My bad, they're usually grouped when I look them up.
[–]user_miki77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
hope they sale at $0.99.
[–]user_miki43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, I just love to see going down to that price.
[–]Good_Dawg2718 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Modded game that's more accurate? Lol
[–]realChebz1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I won't play it if they paid me to do it.
Never playing. Too fucked up and the devs got too cocky.
[–]TheOnlyThing-Sufjan71 points72 points73 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What they dont understand is that Battlefield was somewhat of a historical war simulator game, especially the earlier ones. Meaning that alot of guys who like playing these guys are also very intressted in the autenticity from said game. I remember very well some people where pissed off at one WW2 shooter because the gun sounds did not sound right, can you imagine if you simply put in stuff which was totally untrue with comparrison to history. Ofcourse the developer has every right to do with the game as they please, so pushing women in the front line or whatever is their choice, and they have a right to say that if this pissed you off you should not buy it. But the whole interpretation of the critique was wrong by EA. Alot of people just asked why is this in a war simulator since clearly women did not fight on the frontline, or where part of covert operations, or where the black french soldier treated like less (sure there was some rascism but not as bad as battlefield claims it to be). The same reaction would be if the allies had the famous german panzer tank (I'm not a WW2 expert so mabye they did have those one moment or time but in my understanding this was an excelent and feared tank by the allies used by the germans). So the question is about autenticity not about women black people or whatever. Then when they start spewing the real reason why they included women ofcourse is the left agenda, and then bascially calling their entire fanbase sexist for asking questions pertaining to the authenticity of the game. Really stupid that is the reason there sales fail. But this will probabbly be spun around and argued the sales fail cause of sexism, instead of stupid marketing.
I wonder when big game developers start to notice that their biggest costumer base are men who want to escape sometimes, meaning they want to leave this terrible feminized culture. Even the biggest simps and manginas will play this in their man cave to feel some sense of power and control. But if then you are being bossed around by yet another strong wymen then men say fuck it.
By the way I dont think many gamers have a problem with including women into a game, even female protagonists, however it should be either in a setting which is true to reality, or it must be set in alternate history or alternate world. Think about Wow for example i dont think anyone has ever explained that female characters are a strong as male characters. But then again common sense and rational thought seems far away this day and age.
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[–]ElegantBiscuit37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Their stock price is tanking, its about half of what their peak was and where they were 1.5 years ago and most likely isn't done falling considering they would have to do a major course correction which is unlikely. After the shitshow that wass Battlefront and now Battlefield, it would take a lot even just to get the negative opinion out of the general public's mind.
[–]Docbear644 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
All bets are on Anthem at this point
[–]ZavalasBounty2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True...it will be interesting to see if/when they implement a Fifa-style Lootbox System, or if that CEO who invented it loses his jurb. With Court battles coming up, I imagine EA needs to be on best behaviour for at least five months. For Bioware's sake, I hope that they can push back against EA's usually dumb ideas.
[–]XanderS31145 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's impossible to make history politically correct, end of story.
[–]DontCallMeInTheAM26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Games should cost this much on the regular.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that's irrelevant here, the idea is that it's now half price just week after launch :p
What do you mean? They do.
/r/patientgamers
Most games are $100 anyway, $60 only gets you the barebones experience with shit cut out to sell in the other 3 editions of the game.
[–]hhhvgggvg26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
FUCK feminists
[–]gammyd19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wouldn't
[–]hhhvgggvg0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
me neither
[–]TheImpossible19 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not even with someone else's dick.
[–]roadblumeta25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Funny how politics trumps economics.
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
No my friend, economics did and always will trump politics.
They created a garbage SJW game and the market prices fell in order to induce more purchases.
[–]InformalCriticism23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It really doesn't surprise me that so many gamers are the "organic" "free-range" male perspective. The most educated men in society have been poisoned to believe that a male audience needs to be square-shoved through a circular hole, and they get in charge of these companies that are under the false sense of urgency that they need as much approval from every corner of society, but this is no ordinary male audience; these are men who have devoted their time and money to products they enjoy -- no one is going to tell them what to do.
[–]ZavalasBounty11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the jurbs that wymxn have in Video Games are related to PR, Marketing, and Human Resources. The standard "tactic" for dealing with fallout from a disgruntled player base has been "shaming language," and feminist framing. Star Wars did it. Marvel did it. Star Trek did it. MTG did it. These women in Marketing cannot learn from their mistakes.
Just as the soyboys and women on Reddit CONTINUE to use shaming language. It proves how unscientific women can be, verging on the psychotic (repeating the same activity and expecting a different result every time).
[–]shitfren18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What? To piss off your customer and cater to an audience that would never buy your game in the first place was a bad idea? Never would have guessed that.
Well deserved
[–]cleats4u16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The problem with society is 10% of society decides what the rest of us experience. Put a SJW on your board of directors and let them drive your company into the ground. Watch your customers run to your competition. Now is the perfect time for "start ups" in the gaming industry. I don't want a female tank commander in my game. There never was such a thing. There never will be such a thing. Her whole squad would have to worry about her being raped instead of just getting killed.
[–]Herban_Myth16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Can anyone elaborate?
[–]Celtero50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Google the game's trailer...
Basically makes it look like WW2 was fought by badass women with robotic arms. People got mad, devs told the community they were wrong.
My guess is they were thinking "hey, lets try to get more women to play our game!" Only problem is women have no interest in larping as a WW2 hero.
[–]ElegantBiscuit14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not only do women as a whole not have any an interest in WW2 games, but they dont really have an interest in FPS or video games in general. Insanely stupid virtue signalling trying to pander to an audience that isn't there and insulting the loyal fans who have supported the other games in the franchise. At least with the new diablo there is more of a market with mobile gaming.
[–]ZavalasBounty7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
On YouTube, Fireteam Chat had a debate with "Andrea" from "What's Good Games," (The Chick-Lit of Video Games), and Andrea was arguing that Destiny 2 should be made easier because she doesn't have enough time to play the game and git gud in the first week of a new season. She is stuck at a low light level, probably because she needs hand-holding and hasn't figured out the mechanics of the game.
Logic would tell her that she should either:
A) be comfortable not beating a hard boss (Raid) until she is ready - much later than all of the superstar gamers.
B) Git Gud.
Instead, she wants to ruin everyone else's experience because she would rather get boned by Chad than play a FPS/Looter-Shooter.
And these Gurl Gamers are always so excited to say they "found" others like them, who also have funbags and slots.
[–]random_embryo6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True. With Diablo they can at least say that they were marketing for a new audience. BFV doesn't have that excuse.
[–]Herban_Myth1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just looked it up, I mean I only saw one woman (lady with the prosthetic arm)
[–]GamingYourMom1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But isn't the point of a trailer to show what's in the game, tho?
[–]KnowingHomie37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
One armed british women on the front line killing nazis.
They claim that the game is the direct continuation of BF1 (which they claimed was the most realistic battlefield yet). So people thought that because BF1 was the most realistic that it's direct continuation will also be realistic, which wasn't cause they went full SJW on the game.
[–]ALargeRock37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
While only going 1/2 SJW on BF1.
Love that game, but it still irks me when I see a whole team of black Germans. I don't have anything against blacks or Germans for that matter, but historically speaking: WTF
[–]xseiber25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Diversity”
[–]Konsaki14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Brian - You are all individuals!
Croud - "We are all individuals."
Confused guy in the back "...I'm not!"
[–]KnowingHomie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Colonies, the british troop had Indians/Pakistani and the french troops had arabs and some blacks.
More than 2 million africans were involved in the first war.
[–]ALargeRock0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Out of 70+ million that were involved as combatants.
[–]TheImpossible120 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There was way worse shit in it.
The war story with the mother and daughter is based off a real operation, where brave men fought to destroy a Nazi heavy water facility. Of course, EA spat on their graves and had wymyn only.
[–]Doogie760 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly the same as Star Wars
[+]Herban_Myth-6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I just looked up the reveal but I only saw one woman—lady with the prosthetic arm. Idk if I missed it but I didn’t see a katana.
I can understand if they have her as one of the main characters in the campaign (unless there is no story) as to why she made an appearance but in EA’s defense I didn’t see an all female war going on—unless I saw the wrong reveal trailer.
I mean I kind of understand the backlash from veterans or people who fought in the war and why it would offend them but at the end of the day its a video game. Having the OPTION to select your gender shouldn’t be an issue. Plenty of FPS have female characters nowadays—R6, BO4, Overwatch, etc.
[–]Docbear6410 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Part of the issue is that the battlefield games have always been more historically accurate FPS simulations. I remember there was controversy over Battlefield 1943 because the marines call " SEMPER FI" was pronounced incorrectly. That's how much attention to detail battlefield fans have been given and how much is expected .
So when you come out of the woods to your predominantly male historic simulation fanbase to show off a badass women riding a tank who has a prosthetic arm? You've lost touch with what made the franchise successful in the first place and what your fans want from the franchise .
Others have said it if it was some cartoony spinoff or something or even just a non-battlefield game it would have been fine but this was clearly a misfire to their fanbase.
And what happened when fans grumbled about it online? The head of the studio called the fans uneducated and EA had the nerve to tell the fans if they didn't like the woman with the prosthetic arm they just shouldn't buy the game .
They could have spun this positively in so many ways but they alienated their fans... then alienated hem some more... and then alienated them some more.....
There's nothing wrong with playing with a female soldier in a game that's not rooted in a historical conflict but battlefield always has been . Yes videogames are fantasy but when I play a fantasy game based around a real historical event ... I expect a certain due diligence. It's ok to be exclusionary under the pretext of historical accuracy in my opinion . It's not trying to render the world as we hoped it was at that time ..but instead the world and conflicts as they actually were.
[–]ZavalasBounty0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your soy is leaking.
[–]Herban_Myth-2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmaoooo na fam my humanity is. This sh is comedy. I mean kudos to the consumers for flexing their economical power, but there are bigger issues at hand than this.
I agree that under historical pretext exclusion is ok. And if that was what EA intended to sell it as then shame on them.
The real underlying issue though seems to be a gender war that is or that has been brewing.
Perhaps the next installment in the Battlefield series should be “Battlefield VI: Gender War”. Maybe that’ll help satisfy some of ya’lls dislike/hatred for women.
Dudes got they panties in a bunch cause they saw one woman with a prosthetic arm in the middle of a shootout in a game that typically features men.
Read that back. In. A. Game. In a virtual simulation. Something that isn’t real. I honestly could give two fxcks about this. It’s not real.
Video games help bring people together. Why use it to try and divide people over them trying to be inclusive? Where was this backlash when the Call of Duty franchise began to include women?
This sh is worse than when mfers were complaining about censorship to R6.
Humans can never be satisfied nor content.
70 million men died in WW2. Imagine if you survived WW2 after seeing all of your friends die and a game comes out a few years later that depicts women as the ones on the frontlines. I think you might be pretty pissed off.
[–]GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have bought every mainline Battlefield game and played with friends since 1942. I was excited for Battlefield 1 and it was my game of the year, even though it had issues. But this time?
EA called me a retard because I don't think this is historically accurate. Their marketing screwed up royally, and the guy dared us not to buy this. Well, I've got news: I wouldn't have bought it even if none of this had happened.
The truth is, BFV is a bad game. It is buggy, unstable almost like BF4 at launch, the mechanics aren't refined compared to BF1 and most importantly, content is severely lacking. This shouldn't be a full priced release.
Oh, but what do I know. I am uneducated.
[–]User-31f64a4e10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah. Owen Benjamin has an interesting take on companies who don't act in their own interests. He says that above companies are financial institutions, and above those the central bankers.
Thus, if e.g. Gab fails to obey, paypal and the credit card processors deplatform them.
If e.g. Paypal, Mastercard and Stripe failed to do this, then their access to check clearing, short term Libor interest, etc. might be curtailed or removed.
If the Banks did not do that, then they might be e.g. stringently audited by the Federal Reserve.
-==-
In parallel, Venture Capital probably plays a similar role in a similar manner. Remember, Sequoia Ventures and Kleiner Perkins and all the others often hold substantial post-IPO equity positions, certainly control pre-IPO companies, and have a huge bearing on the future of any company even tangentially related to technology (or subject to disruption by it.)
SO there are layers of control, which can force lower levels of the pyramid to act against their own interests.
[–]oirectine005 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wonder how conflicted "woke" feminists feel that their entire life purpose has been co-opted and turned into a pyramid scheme.
[–]OniiChanStopNotThere11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok we won't buy it then.
[–]MITTU_K10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I heard they fired the guy who tweeted that...
[–]Fkn_Ra8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm not buying it, not because someone wants to play amputee barbie. As long as it's not a game play advantage I could care less.
I'm not buying it because EA fucked me on my premium preorders of hardline and bf:1 being hot garbage and by the time they were released I had "owned them" too long for a refund.
But that's not really MGTOW
That said, I expect nothing more from EA than to double down on an SJW statement.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't preorder. Why would you give money for a product you know nothing about? Don't reward the shitty practice of "release it now and fix it later." When the industry learns these 2 things, I think we'll see games go to a whole new level.
[–]Fkn_Ra1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup, my new personal philosophy, especially now that I'm actively trying to work on saving some money regularly, is to wait for the price drop at least, and sales. There are so many, just be patient, there's Thanksgiving/Cyber Monday, Christmas, New Years, Easter, Spring, Summer, 4th of July, so many that I wish I had been smarter about in the past.
I still have play money to buy games/computer parts/ammo etc, I just make sure to put away savings first and it's really changed my spending habits.
[–]SwoopDaWooo4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The stupidity of it all is if they kept their mouths shut about everything they likely would have had a half decent launch.
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[–]Fkn_Ra0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hitreg still needs work, but it's past end of life as far as support and updates.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
honestly they could've recovered from the bad trailer had they just ignored the trolling. but no, they gotta go and insult their customers
[–]GrizzlyLeather12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It wasn't even trolling. It was a wake up call that the focus audience wasn't buying their SJW bullshit.
[–]NewHum5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The funny thing is that this could all be avoided if they just presented it as some alternative past ww2 with some steam punk elements or whatever.
Do that and nobody would give a single fuck about there being women in the game.
Just don’t come to me and pitch me some super immersive ww2 experience and then try to rewrite the history with some SJW bullshit.
My ancestors fought in ww2 and I will not have their legacy fucked over in the name of political correctness.
[–]NewHum1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! It’s beyond fucking insulting to spew on those great men and their legacy. Just because some people can’t handle that there gender is not represented in some fucking game.
They spit on their legacy all the while they enjoy the very freedom they provided.
[–]NewHum0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If the game wouldn’t take itself too seriously and didn’t try to rewrite ww2 then it wouldn’t be seen as feminists shit. There are plenty of games that have female characters and nobody cares. Call of duty introduced females years ago and nobody gives a fuck because it’s fucking call of duty and everyone knows it’s not supposed to be realistic in any way
[–]badcompanygg7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheHappyPie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it's not one thing it's the other.
Put women into a ww2 game and they'll complain that you haven't represented LGBTQRVSRIj people.
[–]brother_dreadly6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good, I'm glad. Let it all burn down. The industry could use another good crash. Social Justice doesn't sell.
[–]CameronSins5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
GO WOKE GO BROKE
[–]mrHappyPotatoe6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The single campaigne was complete carbage. So empty and vast map. Literally no trees.
And EA is so alienated that it didnt even understood that fans werent mad about the females lol. Just about how females were presented in it. Ww2 had so many famous female warriors why not take at least one of them and put inspired story of her in the game. It would have been hit.
Well but you vant satisfy sjws anyhow. So. Ea got what they want.
[–]wielty3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't really play video games anymore but from what I've seen from bf5 it looks worse than bf2 ( the last one I played) so I'd wager that it doesn't have much to do with gender politics but more that it's just the same rubbish that came out last year?
[–]Chemoralora[S] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is partially due to the shitshow that was battlefront 2 but this definitely had an impact too.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
COD is better anyways
[–]jagerade3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What the fuck. I feel like this is disrespectful to all the MEN who fucking died in the thousands in the names of their countries and freedom. How the fuck could they portray something FUCKING HISTORICAL so wrong? Seriously, if women stormed the beaches of Normandy, id shut the fuck up. But they didnt. So FUCK YOU AGAIN EA.
[–]Ubermensch-12 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Video game devs were duped by the fake "stats" and liberal rhetoric that's rampant in the tech sector atm. Women only make up a significant portion of gamers if you count shitty mobile games, the hardcore gaming audience is easily 80-90% male for most AAA titles. Women simply aren't a demographic worth catering to.
Most of the more hardcore female gamers I know have no qualms playing as male characters.... it's almost like there's more to a game than a virtual characters gender.
[–]BlackBoxInquiry2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Grasp at straws.
Most would have bought the game if they have just ignore and left it alone.
[–]Jablamon2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Playing DICE games is for simps.
Lol eating their own shit...
This is a false statement - people are refusing to buy this because historical inaccuracy not because they hate women.
Damn media and their lies 😡
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
THE ONLY BATTLEFIELD FRANCHISE WORTH PLAYING IS BAD COMPANY - THE HUMOR IS GREAT!!!!
[–]Docbear640 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love bad company , one of my favorite 360 games.
[–]MrJonesWildRide1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When do we get a game where we only kill minorities and women?
[–]Gloval11 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I see these kinds of things fail it gives me hope that SJW's and safe spacers really are just a (VERRRRY) vocal minority. Not that it matters, entertainment and media at large caters to their every stupid cause. Hopefully, eventually, they'll lose enough money to stop it. Get woke go broke has been proven repeatedly.
All these recent events and the climate of western society makes it seem like there is an impending gender war
[–]HauntedPrinter1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People would have still bought the fuck out of the game even with all the retarded historical changes. EA had this one in the bag but they just had to go and call everyone who ever complained about it a baby, an uneducated retard and so on. It’s like PR departments overdosed on heroin an all they had left as a spokesperson was a raging 12 year old.
[–]simplystimpy1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I watched the trailer, when I heard the female let out her "mighty" death roar, she sounded like Alvin & the Chipmunks.
not buying this shit
[–]GigamusPrime1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I personally don’t think the issue was/is having women soldiers in the game, but the blatantly stupid parts of face paint and prosthetic limbs and all the other unnecessary tidbits while calling the game “authentic”.
Shooter games have had female solider options for years, it’s nothing new. EA messed up bad with the authenticity claims and then their idiotic statements including but not limited to, “If you don’t like it, don’t buy it”
Hopefully they’ll learn from this... hopefully
The worst part of this and why I just couldn't buy the game is the constant female screaming during MP. It's so fucking cringe, you obviously have a bunch of true believing trots in the dev room who make sure there are 'badass females' screaming orders throughout the whole match. Ruinous. It's really, really bad and I was really holding out for a big AAA WW2 FPS this gen. Bastards.
I'm so fucking burnt out by these modern games, there's still a ton of good ones but most are complete shit full of lootboxes, day one DLC and microtransactions, no wonder I been playing my Playstation 2 a lot recently.
[–]tylerden1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Turns out women don't spend money on games like the guys do...lmfao
[–]kushpatel34101 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
EA:don't buy our games if you don't like them
Gamers:ok, oh look some other games to spend my money on(ala RDR2, COD BO4, AC:odyssey)
EA:WAAAAHHHH!!!! WAAAAH! why aren't you misoginistc tocix gamrs not buying our gam
[–]battle_of_homme1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just don't let Swedes make games about warfare.
They appeased Hitler in WW2, kept their industry intact and now they are projecting their feminist agenda on wars they didn't participate in.
No Norwegians are going to buy this insulting, revisionist propaganda tool made by the heirs of cowards.
[–]lewism1091 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As the free-market expression goes: "Get woke, go broke".
[–]genesicforone1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You guys don't understand.They are doing it on purpose cause it will kill the battlefield franchise altogether.It is about destroying the male space.
They know its bad.The SJW are not stupid.Men in the US are having their virtual spaces destoryed.
It appears that the people have spoken.
That is how Mags “Brian” Vissagio got into the business - by dressing up as a woman ala Benny Hill skit he was recognized as a “groundbreaking trans trailblazer” and given opportunities for freelance and other gigs.
[–]BlackVale0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get so glad when I see stuff like this happen to the dumb ass AAA game companies
[–]V0IDc0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My friend got the deluxe edition, he played it 4 times since the game was out, waste of money.
[–]FirstOrderMGTOW0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd sooner play Fallout 76
[–]swapnilsathe10 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was planning on making BF5 my first BF game experience. I have never played any of the battlefield games before. But when I heard about the PC and SJW BS going on with it and them rewriting history I decided not to buy.
I was absolutely disgusted by EAs attitude. They just lost a customer. I guess it isnt a loss for me since I've never played their games before. Vote with your wallets gentlemen.
They could fucking give it away for free and I still wouldnt touch it.
And so, thyeyelected not to buy the game.
[–]betterredthenwed0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have never cared for EA. So this is like a free delivery of Schadenfreude on my doorstep. Lots of men here predicted this.
[–]BipolarKing140 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
30 bucks saved lads we spoke with our wallets. And the statement is loud & clear.
[–]NewbQuery0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where do I get the backstory on this?
[–]limbojunkie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Male fantasy!
[–]dave116860 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
EA Is the Heckler and Koch of game companies. “You suck and we hate you.”
They pulled shit like this after SimCity came out. I’ll never buy anything they make.
[–]SUEDE2BLACK0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What's going on with Battlefield V?
[–]bfte20 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've already posted before regarding the wymyns in BFV on my previous (banned) account. People seem to always bring up the Soviet female pilots and snipers all the time. They were still a tiny minority compared to the males. Cucks @ DICE could've made single player stories about them, sure. But in Multiplayer? Imagine having half of the team consisting of wymmyns running around. That ruins all immersion or whatever "historic accuracy" these morons were trying to go for.
I grew up playing FPS games like Red Orchestra '41-'45. Nobody was interested in this wymmyns @ battle shtick. Or skin colour. Or politics. Much simpler times.
[–]leadfarmer1540 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a must watch. It goes into the campaign and how Dice tries to rewrite history with SJW politics.
It's called "Battlefield 5 inclusive revisionism"
[–]FreshNothingBurger0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gaming industry: fuck you, gamers, y'all wayciss n shiet
Gamers: eat shit and die
Gaming industry: SurprizedPikachuMeme
I always bought the new bf, but after they made this shit I said no thanks, this is how the free market corrects itself.
[–]BobScratchit0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was watching a video today by thequartering and he stated that game developers get up to a $1,000,000 or so bonus if they can get a metacritic rating above a certain score. He then said that most of the critics are hard core leftist SJWs and tend to give a higher score if the game has a narrative that they like. It made sense to me because nothing else does as to why they would pander to anyone except the buyer.
Edit: Here it is.
[–]TheMarvelousSchmuck0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As it turns out, getting in a pissing contest with your main fucking audience doesn't actually get things to sell very well. Who knew that telling people to cough up the cash or fuck off was a bad idea for a company?
I would have refused to buy it just on the principal of how they're trying to sell it, what with spitting in the face of those who got them there in the first place.
[–]robowriter0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Silly Valley and the entertainment media has their marching orders and agenda and they're going to push it to Chapter 11.
Google's too big to fail except working for the Chinese government, Apple's too big to fail even though their new mini-Mac sucks my RAM, Facebook and Twitter hate free speech so they all fall down, and humpty dumpty EA follows the lemmings off the cliff.
Good riddance. Next.
[–]LJHova0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
EA has always sucked. Quit buying its games years ago. Now the company is embracing its suck to the tune of 63% decrease in sales. Makes me smile to see such asshattery being punished. Vote with your wallets, it's the only thing women and simps understand.
[–]mgtowshoes0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So stupid
What's particularly idiotic of EA is that they aren't some "smol indie company" that can blame their shitty sales numbers on haters and trolls. They have shareholders to keep happy.
You'd think that is enough for them to not be a bunch of idiots pandering to a market that doesn't want anything to do with their products.
[–]Puig_Destroyer-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s a shame all of this pointless virtue signaling and social justice rhetoric has to frighten people off of the game. BFV is actually pretty fun, and while it is in no way historically accurate to have bald, black, female Nazis, it doesn’t really ruin the game. Granted I haven’t and probably won’t play the campaign, so I’m basing all of this off of PvP. Hopefully EA will learn a valuable lesson for future marketing endeavors.
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Looking forward to playing COD BO4!
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