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[–]MasterGenio 1 points1 points1 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
tl:dr Help those who need it, only if it comes from a place of abundance in your heart. Attempting to get something from giving has always been manipulative.
[–]harsha_hs3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Attempting to get something from giving has always been manipulative.
also most importantly, it doesn't get you anything in the long term.
[–]anabolic920 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isn't this one of the principles named in NMMNG?
The concept of abundance in this context is hard for me to grasp, maybe because english is not my first language, mind explaining?
[–]AyyPosteriori16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Some people, when they do someone a favor, are always looking for a chance to call it in. And some aren't, but they're still aware of it- still regard it as a debt. But others don't even do that. They're like a vine that produces grapes without looking for anything in return.
A horse at the end of a race...
A dog when the hunt is over...
A bee with it's honey stored...
And a human being after helping others.
They don't make a fuss about it. They just go on to something else, as the vine looks forward to bearing fruit again in season.
We should be like that. Acting almost unconsciously.
-Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.
[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow, I didn't know that was in the Meditations.
[–]Luckylancer960 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Which chapter and which thought? I want to read it in my native L.
[–]Starfuckingman31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I like the post but I don't know what that makes me, but the ''my website'' at the end made me feel like I am being fed an emotional ad haha, just sayin'
[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
yeah i felt weird putting it there too.
[–]Bear-With-Bit4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't ever feel weird about it. Keep writing and keep sharing your site, it's always good stuff, and the hungry humble new ones here will do well by reading your OC.
[–]pevans12-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's even more strange that you haven't taken it down yet.....
[–]TRP_MushaShugyo45 points46 points47 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry about your father, man. Sounds like you learned a lot from him. Thanks for all your contributions here, I know you've helped me.
[–]roco-j11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm amazed this post has so few upvotes, because it's such a beautiful concept. Probably because it is more philosophical and doesn't sound as exciting as some more straightforward and "raw" advice about being alpha as fuck, stuff like that.
My condolences for your loss.
[–]zetayshow7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My condolences to you and your family. I read a lot of your posts and they are always enlightening! Thanks for another great share and I hope you bounce back even better.
[–]1IDGAFMentality6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I offer my condolences for your loss, and I want to let you know that I, along with everyone else in this community, is here for you during this difficult time brother.
Your words are both insightful and thought provoking. It is my personal belief that the vast majority of posts on TRP pertain to self improvement and advancement, whether it be physically, in the sexual marketplace, economically, or in another area, and often times ignore what happens around us. Your post emphasizes the need to move beyond our self created bubbles. While building up our own bubbles should play a dominant role in our life, we must remember we build up our bubbles to better our interactions with others in this world.
As part of this community, we accept that life is brutal. There is, was, and forever shall be no one here for us but ourselves. The fortunate among us have guides and people to rely on, but these measures are only temporary. The notion that we can derive happiness and purpose from helping others intrigues me. I have no doubt about the psychological benefits of volunteering and helping those who are not as fortunate as, but question why we are able to obtain this satisfaction. Do we feel that by helping someone in need we counteract our own struggles? Do we take comfort in knowing we helped someone when there was no one for us? I'm curious from a psychological standpoint how giving benefits us, and would love if someone could enlighten me.
As for your point about giving and women, I applaud your sentiment. From personal experience, I know the impact of giving and receiving firsthand. As individuals, we must give only when things are deserved. Whether it be our time, respect, money, or the myriad of other possessions we hold, giving must be correlated to earning. When we give for the sake of giving, people do not receive the positive reinforcement that they are receiving a gift because of the action they performed, leading people to expect gifts just because they have received them in the past. If we give when a gift is not deserved, people learn they can do nothing, and they choose to do nothing, while still expecting compensation.
Women will only give to a man who is worthy. If you make your gifts scarce (while still rewarding good behavior) women will do whatever they can to chase your affection. If you give gifts freely, the game is over, and a woman will drain you of your resources.
I know you are making your father proud OP. Once again, my condolences, and thank you for your insightful thoughts.
[–]JorixKienu2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The notion that we can derive happiness and purpose from helping others intrigues me.
I want to share my experience about this : that isn't merely a notion, I have found that for myself that it is a deep need.
I have recently discovered (in myself) a deep need to give something and I have understand that in my life so far, this beautiful and useful attitude of mine was automatically and relentlessly exploited by near every female (and by most males) in my life.
TRP help me immensely to realize how (and why) this exploitation is carried on (I was huge bluepilled in most part of my life, a beta cuck, a disgusting loser, you name it) but the turning point for me is that now I can do different: I can now choose what give and how to give.
I believe that this kind of instinct to give is buried inside almost all men, as it arise from the male animal need to impregnation (yes, I I'm talking about male urge/instinct to fuck almost everything) and also from the male huge bliss in the moment of discharge (yes, I'm talking about male ejaculation orgasm ). How this basic, biological male facts transform into "higher" drive is an interesting question (and answers) but is not the point here.
As part of this community, we accept that life is brutal. There is, was, and forever shall be no one here for us but ourselves. The fortunate among us have guides and people to rely on, but these measures are only temporary.
It is like you describe but I also think that is not only necessary bitting the pill but is essential to digest it in the right way and in full. That means keep on digesting until you can go over the brutal reality that shall be no one here for us but ourselves. Never forget that but never settle down into loneliness / bitterness.
Yes, is a long and harsh way home, but it is the only know way and most important is the only real way, IMHO.
So why do you not give a try ? (on your own term)
You may found more than you immagine, at the end of your road.
[–]DatingCoach1116 points7 points8 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I was going to make a post similar to this just the other day. To complement this post: As men, we are meant to give without expectations. Such is the hierarchy of love. But we give masculine energy, not feminine. Abundance comes when we ourselves feel loved, though not from people, but from the energy that surrounds us. It's not a new-age or spiritual concept, either; feeling loved is nothing more than a belief or feeling. If you are able to close your eyes and imagine feeling loved, that's the energy we're referring to, and is the key to abundance. You then begin to rid of the ego. Out of fear, the ego always wonders what others are thinking (selfish) rather than reflecting them through itself (speaking your mind, true honesty, selflessness).
Ego = Fear. Which means: No ego = Fearless
A fearless man won't put up with his woman's shit. He isn't a pushover. He is a leader, a dominator, and champion in her eyes. Simultaneously, he will not abuse or treat her like garbage, and will protect her when she is in need because he is responsible for protecting the ship, making him the Captain.
Excellent post. The passing of your father will only bring you closer to him. After all, everything is energy.
[–]precisionclear3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
"When faced with weak, worthless men, women become cruel, manipulative, and seemingly heartless"
Who are you, to judge the value of a man's life by his success with the opposite gender. Better question; how would you feel about a man who stated that a woman who cannot sexually please a man because she is old or ugly - that her life has no value? You are the male version of a feminist.
We are all full grown adults who have the freedom and ability to make our own decisions. Nobody can "make" them do anything. If they "become" cruel, manipulative, and heartless - it's because that is what they always were, and likely always will be.
The thing about morality is that for those who practice it to survive those who do not - then it can only be given to individuals who give it back.
You talk about "giving for the sake of receiving nothing in return.", and how pathetic a man is for using wealth to please women instead of personality traits.
Merely by switching one currency for another - But not really, because women are still striving to get married and even in dating will come out ahead financially. It's similiar to how men will pretend to be friends when all they really want is to have sex, or more importantly - how the only reason why they persue the "excitement" is because their actions (And yours) is subsidized by those who financially support the single mother welfare. Aka - Those who made the mistake of trying to build a tribe, in an environment where no such thing is still possible.
"My sister is a strong, intelligent, powerful woman, and she puts most beta males I know to shame."
Your sister is a narcistic, selfish bitch who see's men as nothing but "packages", and has been taught by society, and her family to indulge fully to those behaviors. No where, not once did you mention what expectations that women should be expected to perform.
How is that "respectful", when the only time this is normally true - is for mentally retarded adults, and very small children.
Your post is contradictory, shallow, and repetitive.
It serves as a reminder about "The Red Pill", two opposing sides often deserve each other. You are players in a game that is inherently broken.
The difference between K and R selection theory. You are an alpha rabbit. A healthy functioning human tribe requires everybody to survive. The elderly, the children, the men, and the women - no one is disposable or taken advantage of.
And your father was misguided if these are the "values" that he taught.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mostly agree. Woujo does try to give women the benefit of the doubt more often than not. To take the red pill framework and contort it ever so slightly to fit what would be a nice or convenient explanation of female behavior. He does it masterfully but it is purple pill hamstring in a sense. Extolling the virtues of a high society is one thing, misattributing them to women is another. Then again seeing the good nature inherent in women maybe a gift he has.
[–]precisionclear0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure, if he wanted to talk about positive personality traits, that would be fine. So much of human nature is conditional. There is good nature in everybody, but choosing to overlook bad attributes entirely based upon gender is as Blue as it gets. It's one thing to recognize and accept the reality that we found ourselves in, but another to use contorted, contradictory logic.
[–]throwawaygod12x2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i agree 100% with you and i sure your father was an awesome person.
[–]neighborhoodbaker0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Purpose of life is to do good, be honorable, have integrity, follow the 'way', be chivalrous, pursue good karma, do what's right, follow bushido, attain enlightenment, be a fucking man.
[–]twintowersrubble0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry brother, thank you for this inspiring message.
[–]S5551230 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My condolences brother.
I've fallen to the manipulation of leeches and vampires way more than I count. I've seen my family give away a lot, and I developed this giving away a lot without limit trait.
I've lived 20+ years of my life giving to a point where I go broke, mostly because I felt bad for people. That's definitely giving from a position of weakness. I got burned several times. I'm 25 now and I've finally learnt not to do that. Thanks to some books I read recently. This post only strengthens what I've learnt & observed. Everyone should take this advise it's invaluable. Thanks for the post and you've a nice website.
[–]_i-like-turtles_0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First, I am sorry for your lost. Second, I think your father would be proud to see the perspective you have on life. Thank you for this, it really resonated with me.
[–]NoFaptain990 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry about your Dad. That's really tough.
Fantastic post. I often feel like TRP teaches to be selfish, to have sex with every woman they see, to only focus on themselves. But this isn't the way to true happiness, to joy. The only way to true Joy is by getting to the point where you're able to give selflessly to others.
Thanks for your contributions to this community.
[–]Junted0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I already loved and appreciated my father before this sub, but boy has it grown my gratitude after I started reading whats here. Thank all of you.
[–]450k_crackparty0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like how you took all the classic RP tenets and showed them through this lens of giving. Works well. I've been subbed here about 3 years and this is the first post in a lonnnnnng time that's actually made me think. All the best to you.
[–]majorbollocks0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, take, and give back more than you take. Condolences for your loss, brother. This needs more upvotes
[–]michasv0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if people would have compassion and love for themselves then they won't even need all of those rules. when compassion and self-love exist then you always coming from a position of power and abundance. so there's no need for theories and rules. most if not all the desires to bed woman stems from validation seeking so how does that reflect abundance?.. if people will realize that the only reason they even want to bed many women is validation seeking then this desire will lose its power
[–]Euphoricentia0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP is in need of website clicks ahahaha.
[–]borntobeanincel0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
give someone something so that they too can help someone else. eventually, what goes around comes around. so, give your woman love so that she can love ur children. Ur children will then love women who will in turn love their children. i have been an incel not because i dont have game or i dont lift but because wife can see i m helping her to get sex n not because i like having a clean place. so she eventually gets irritated n snatches towel from me to dry the dishes. i m a smartass n so the money i save by not hiring a made goes to strippers so screw giving. since what goes around comes around i wont be surprised if wife is cheating or spending my money on useless shit 😃
[–]Luckylancer960 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, sorry for your lose.
Philosophy time:
...therefore fulfill thwe.mission as humang being best (i m from phone, no ctrl+c)
But even if you dont expect to gain anything, you still get something: Self satisfaction.
Humans are traped between "id"/hind brain and "super ego"/inner morality. These 2 thing order stuff againts each other and we hamster in inside to find best way. Reward is inner piece in brain and dopamine. Humans do good deeds, be selfish, be genorous, murder, steal, stay indiffrent to any crime to stimulate reward node and oppress punishment node in hind brain.
If brain is just a machine, nothing you do can be your will. Everthing will be calculation to increase dopamine/seratonine secration in brain. When my mind lean towards nihilistic and deterministic thoughts these thoughts flood my mind.
[–]adambrukirer0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
hey man, I really enjoyed this text and I am sad it is now deleted. Could you help me recall who it is best to give to? Who would you say is most deserving of it? Thank you kindly.
[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks I appreciate the thought.
https://www.woujo.com/blog/2017/9/4/the-purpose-of-life-giving
[–]maverick99x90 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My condolences to your family. This article is the one thing that I needed in my life the most. To give and to have something to give. Thank you for reminding me again of this mission of my existence.
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