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Seriously think about who’s writing the shit you read here. You need to learn to think/judge for yourselves.

1588 upvotes
by broek_325 on /r/TheRedPill
14 December 2017 10:47 AM UTC
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There was a recent post about how to destroy females by being alpha and beta. Some of the comments were gold dust, (as ever, comments often contain the real advice, not the posts themselves), but only a few people seemed to actually consider who the fuck the OP was.

Well, judging from post history, OP is an asexual, female/male (who knows?) who frequents 2X and probably has a plethora of mental health issues. At the very least they are a troll.

Yet most of the comments are singing praise and agreeing with him/her/it. The problem is, people follow the herd. The post gains upvotes, so it must be fact. Rather than reading it and thinking for themselves, they’ll just take it as gospel, add another upvote, and be on their way.

Now, aside from GLO, I can’t think of many people here that actually have a face to the name. So of course, the majority of posts you read, you can’t really tell who’s posting or who’s genuine. Think twice before you start changing behaviours and listening to shit you read here, especially when posted by randoms. You really want to take some theory back to your plates which was in fact made up by some fat hambeast with bipolar?

Read the sidebar, read endorsed posts, read posts which have been commended/approved by endorsed members. Then read the random FR’s and theories, and judge for yourself if they seem real, but keep your head screwed on. Just because the main user base agrees and gives upvotes, doesn’t mean the post is worth shit.

There’s a huge amount of great content here posted by non endorsed members, I’m not saying to ignore it. Just use that brain. If a post seems like BS it probably is.

Some of the best posts here, with real RP advice from men who have experienced the shit, often get very few upvotes and disappear only to be found in searches. Remember that.

TL:DR - don’t be gullible. Nothing new here. Listen to the senior people, take everything else with a pinch of salt. If you can’t read a post and take away your own conclusions from it, you’re probably in trouble.



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Title Seriously think about who’s writing the shit you read here. You need to learn to think/judge for yourselves.
Author broek_325
Upvotes 1588
Date 14 December 2017 10:47 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/47749
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7jquj2/seriously_think_about_whos_writing_the_shit_you/
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522 upvotesTarmyniatur2 years ago

I love it when I click on a interesting title or theme and the first row is "I'm a 19yo college freshman, here's how to day game in a campus".

199 upvotesPhantomNishobrah2 years ago

"freshman in high school here, just got my first plate"

7 upvotesDonaldBaelish1 year ago

Here in my garage, just fucked this new plate.

127 upvotestrash_dad2 years ago

Ya I read everything on here in the voice of an awkward 18 year old now because of shit like this 😂

52 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Seriously just talk to people how hard is it. I've seen field reports of "hey I just went and spoke to a women, please pat me on the back". Speaking to another human shouldn't be challenging, if it is you should seek some sort of therapy or counseling, not some internet tough guy subreddit.

39 upvotesDenver_Luv32 years ago

Seriously just talk to people how hard is it

Depends on who you are and where you're starting from. I periodically link to Krauser's post Reveal vs Restructure because it has the best discussion of the issue I've seen.

So why the divergence in opinion? I think it comes down to which side of this divide you fall on. Is your Journey a process of:

Uncovering a pre-existing SMV and personality that is attractive to women, or;

Ridding yourself of a Pussy Repellent virus and then building an attractive man from scratch.

The tChads are normal men with normal social skills and outlook and inhabit bodies that are reasonably attractive to a wide range of women. Some will require more work than others but all are building on a strong base. It’s like cooking a meal starting with fresh organic high quality ingredients. These men already have decent value, they just lack a Value Delivery Mechanism*** Teaching them Game is like having an out-of-shape teenage Usain Bolt show up on his first day of Learn To Sprint School. They have to put in the work but the rewards are almost immediate. There’s never any real struggle.

I have met guys who have basically no social skills, no physical skills (lifting, running, nothing), and as a result almost no positive interactions with women who aren't there mother. For that guy it will be very hard.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I have met guys who have basically no social skills, no physical skills (lifting, running, nothing), and as a result almost no positive interactions with women who aren't there mother. For that guy it will be very hard.

I would go so far as saying that even these guys don't even positive interactions with their mothers. At least not in any sense that is conducive to them improving their skills/life/whatever. A good mother would point these things out, but perhaps in a less obtuse way to a good father.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Then get over it and make it not hard. You can complain all day about how unfair it is but it doesn't change the fact that men are required to either adapt and overcome or die.

17 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Cold approach is incredibly hard when you first start doing it otherwise this subreddit wouldn’t be a thing. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

1 upvotesempty_moshpit2 years ago

It's only hard if you start doing it as a low value man like most guys do. Cold approach is not just a numbers game. If your SMV is low enough it might very well be you can approach 1000 girls and not a single one will go out with you.

Improve your looks, money and status. Have an awesome life that is not dependent on women. After that your cold approaches will be more successful because women can sense you are not desperate for them and you genuinely have other stuff going for you, and you are genuinely desirable by other women.

Yes, cold approach is hard if you are a scrawny pimply faced 20 year old who is out for the first time and has no idea what is going on in the game. It's supposed to be hard so it motivates you to improve as a man. What would be the point of self improvement if any fat shmuck could just get 9's every night at the snap of a finger just by acting like an email spammer and asking out every single stranger they meet?

15 upvotesinspiredshane2 years ago

The difficulty of approach is actually mostly a product of fear. Approach is easier when you’ve improved the other aspects of your life, true, but for many men it comes with it’s own set of new challenges, anxieties, and skills to be learned. It’s kind of like being afraid of clowns. The clowns aren’t going to hurt you, but your fear isn’t rational. You have to progressively, voluntarily desensitize yourself to your fear by taking consistent, small steps. And your irrational fear never truly dies. It just diminishes, and you realize there’s something inside of you that’s strong enough to take on the things you’re afraid of. As near as I can tell, this explains why even some highly successful and attractive men still suffer from approach anxiety and poor dating outcomes. I agree with a lot of what you’re saying; I just feel like the truth is a bit more complicated. If you told someone that improvement in every other area of their live would eliminate their irrational fear of elevators, for example, it might work sometimes, if they had to gain inner strength and confidence in dealing with those other issues that they could use as a source of courage to get on an elevator. But truly conquering the fear involves getting on the elevator. And many times, people use the idea of self-improvement in other areas just so they can avoid confronting that one thing that makes them the most afraid. For some men, that one thing is women. Sure, it’s irrational, but it’s still very difficult for them.

Edit: spelling

2 upvotesempty_moshpit2 years ago

Some people just don't have that fear at all. I believe they're called psychopaths. Needless to say, they are usually pretty successful with women if they have an iota of good looks.

For us regular folk, I think you may be very correct, even if you achieve everything you ever dreamed of in life, that nagging feeling will still always haunt you no matter how many hundreds of rejections you've already successfully brushed off.

That's the price paid for having emotions like a regular human being. Only 1% of men don't feel those emotions.

Even if you already fucked hundreds of women.. Even if you endured a thousand rejections... You could still occassionally feel that slight dread when in a new situation, in a new place with new people where your goal is just approaching women. That's just being human.

1 upvotesEsteraMC2 years ago

Improve your looks, money and status.

I've improved my looks (Brad P fight club body, trained jaw, low BF, bespoke designer clothes, etc, etc...), I've improved my money (millionaire) and that should give me status as well, right?

Well, yeah, still I got laid from one girl in 800 that I cold approached.

1 upvotesempty_moshpit2 years ago

Then your face is not as good looking as you think it is, or it could have deformities. Have you gotten it graded on photofeeler.com? If you are at least 70/100 as rated by female users then you should have no problem with cold approaches in real life or even Tinder online.

If you get something like 40 to 60 or less then there is a problem which is genetic and can't be fixed.

Also, you didn't mention your height. Having those attributes as a 5'4 man is much different to having them as a 6'2 man. So that message was not the whole story.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I guess I don't know, people are people. No reason to be afraid

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

It’s an irrational fear obviously. That doesn’t make it any less crippling for a beginner

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

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1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Holy fuck, really? Those are staggeringly bad numbers.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

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6 upvotesGodLikeVelociraptor2 years ago

Meanwhile I’m a middle aged multimillionaire and I get downvoted left and right. Ok, I’ll keep my life lessons to myself then.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Pff, join the club. If it isn't downvoted, it's a carefully crafted reply that doesn't even get a thank you. Now I'm not a millionaire, but I don't owe anybody a cent at this stage. Don't worry about the downvotes, there are so many blue pills and women here these days I don't pay any attention to the votes, and haven't actually for quite some time. There are lots of great comments in trp, sitting with 1 whole point. The smart people carefully read through them and use their fucking brains hopefully.

2 upvotesGodLikeVelociraptor2 years ago

Oh, I don't give a single shit in response to downvotes.

I think people naturally gravitate towards advice (right or wrong) from people's own age groups. Advice from an experienced 40 something is ignored because it's not what the 18 year old wants to hear.

2 upvotesWraithwain2 years ago

At least the titles don't sound like clickbait yet.

"I got laid multiple times in one day! Here's how I did it."

That would be dreadful.

4 upvotesmummersfarce_is_done2 years ago

Doctors hate him. He achieved 10 inch dick. Here's how...

1 upvotesmartinger2 years ago

Hahahaha lmao exactly this

143 upvotesking_of_red_alphas2 years ago

Personal annoyances:

  • Here’s my advice on shit tests. I’m 17 in high school and ...

  • Any woman over 30 is damaged goods and should be avoided ...

  • Every girl is secretly fucking Chad when you’re not watching ...

  • I was so alpha and banged this chick within 30 minutes of meeting her. Oh, forgot to mention, I’m a male model, but it was my rock solid frame that did it ...

34 upvotescBIGONE2 years ago

Especially the Chad one, even if it is motivating to improve your SMV.

I think the more correct answer is "if I let my SMV go,and be a lazy fuck, she will fuck Chad then". Pending proper screening of course. Some women are just jumpers

6 upvotesAnAbsoluteSith2 years ago

Nah bro you're just hamstering away the truth /s

10 upvotesLiveAFTSOV2 years ago

You're wrong if you believe that if you reach a certain level of alpha, your girl wont cheat on you.

12 upvotesAnAbsoluteSith2 years ago

Has the capacity to cheat on you. Not that she is destined to cheat on you. And that subtle distinction is something a lot of folks here seem to miss. That is what AWALT means: it is in their nature to naturally take a specific course of action. They all want alpha. Doesn't matter how amazing she is, screw up consistently or long enough and she will cheat/leave. Heck don't screw up and she can still cheat on you. But because she has the capacity to do so doesn't mean she is as likely to do so as the Sluty Sue who you picked up at the club. This is why you cultivate your SMV to a point to where you attract women who are a lower risk. Can she? Yes. Will she? That's not always guaranteed.

9 upvotesLiveAFTSOV2 years ago

Sluty Sue who you picked up at the club.

I agree with everything you said except this - Madonna / Whore complex.

All women are slutty sues for the right guy at the right time.

one man's prude is anothers whore etc

16 upvotesThrowawaysteve1234562 years ago

Or the people that want 'global' rules that are true 100% of the time. Or the I KNOW your gf is banging some other dude, trust me, posts. Basically just the generalizations. AWALT. FFS, that is the most overused term on this forum. No, that girl is like that. That term should be restricted to a handful of terms where it is accurate (e.g hypergamy), and not broadened to mean that because my ex-fiance banged the entire dallas cowboys last week, so did yours.

9 upvotesking_of_red_alphas2 years ago

Lol exactly. The other fucking thing is the denial of AMALT.

So many fuckers here acting high and mighty as if they don’t treat human beings as disposable tools on their climb to whatever they happen to desire. M

We have different motivations but are equally self deluding.

1 upvotesLiveAFTSOV2 years ago

AMALT is retarded because most men are painfully obedient and subserviant to their pussy overlord, lacking a back bone to even consider other humans as "disposable tools."

Programming from childhood into late adolescence ensures many boys grow up into slave men - they grow into the disposable tools to be used - alot of them used by women.

2 upvotesking_of_red_alphas2 years ago

True.

BUT

If we follow the idea of AWALT it means this: presented with the opportunity, all men - provides sufficient motivation (ie the woman is hot enough) will deviate from that conditioning and fuck the new hot girl.

The will be even bail on their “obligation” for the hotter girl if she has sufficient girl game to flip him.

9 upvotesCanuckinFL2 years ago

Listen, I'm with you on interpreting the arguments with some subtlety, but do consider that some of what you're taking issue with is the mandate at hand.

So in the way that the auto-retorts of "she's out banging someone because she's late coz women" is an insipid response, so too is demonizing what I think our purpose is, in here.

And that is to perhaps constantly remind ourselves of what IS essentially making AWALT.

Poor analogy I've offered elsewhere as follows:

there are sharks. Lotsa different kinds. Some, not carnivorous, many docile, and not interested in humans as food anyway. But you prepare yourself for sharks biting when you swim in shark infested water. Because enough of them do bite generally, to make the rule valid. You prepare for what is logically and demonstrably true.

and I think that's kinda what we have to stress about them, in the way of the testimonials in here, to get our act going. So yeah. AWALT.

2 upvotesMaxDMJ2 years ago

Okay, so to clarify for my own understanding, AWALT is not a literally correct statement, but we should prepare as if AWALT, because it is better to be safe than sorry.

4 upvotesmummersfarce_is_done2 years ago

You don't even know what AWALT stands for. AWALT doesn't mean all women do cheat. It means it is their natural disposition to do so, given the opportunity when the hot male comes along. It doesn't mean all women will branch swing, it means vica versa.

And it means all women crave attention! Especially male attention.

Of course some things like personality will play a role if women follow on to that like social environment, upbringing, low or high self esteem. Some women will prefer a more risk taking strategy with more branch swinging, some women will just latch onto a co-dependent so they will never be dumped (that is because they are co-dependent themselves). Of course they might preach about it to gain sympathy points, as it is also a part of AWALT; virtue signaling and getting those juicy likes on facebook.

2 upvotesItsYough1232 years ago

So pretty much like how it is in men's nature? Why not call it AHALT?(All humans are like that)

1 upvotesLiveAFTSOV2 years ago

AWALT is about potentials.

If you believe your girl wouldnt fuck a young Arnold Schwarzenegger if he came knocking on her door, you're a delusional fool.

1 upvotesantariusz2 years ago

It’s more like, my ex-fiancé banged the Dallas cowboys, yours is just jealous she didn’t get to.

1 upvotesantariusz2 years ago

Points 2 and 3 are valid points though.

Point 1 fails because good advice should stand on its own without even needing to explain who you are or your background.

Point 4 is an important reminder that looks matter. But there are plenty of attractive guys out there home alone and jerking it because they don’t take advantage of their asset. Mindset is equally as important as looks, you need both.

400 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I think people are really losing the ability to think for themselves they want spoon-fed information without actually questioning and experiencing things.

Edit: Thanks for the gold.

51 upvotesbiglaughingcock2 years ago

that’s how societies are controlled. but it’s impossible to control every mind, there will always be thinkers.

23 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

All this is just my opinion but I think we need to question everything we are being told and that includes questioning things about TRP when you start following something blindly that's when your shit will get fucked up.

17 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

You are absolutely correct, and you will see the most senior and experienced men here say the same thing. The second you give up free thought and follow blindly, you are in huge trouble. It’s that same mindset that has led most men here. They followed the herd and got fucked over. The very essence of TRP should be to wake up and take ownsership of yourself and your actions.

Use what you read here, go out and experience it. You have the theory, now go and put it into practice, and then draw your own conclusions. Mould it to your own life, your own circumstances.

You will find most of your findings do indeed match exactly what the core principles of TRP say, but every single man will have different experiences and have a different life, and must learn to lead it himself and make his own decisions. He can make much better decisions thanks to all the shared knowledge he has ingested, but they must be his decisions none the less. Not just following what he’s been told.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

“Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.” -Bruce Lee

I don't follow a lot of the advice I see posted about TRP but I do look through a lot of the info and take the things that might be useful to me in my own life.

2 upvotesmetallicdrama2 years ago

This. There’s a lot of good ideas on here but not all of them apply to what is right for you. It’s like investing. Not every product suits your goals and resources.

3 upvotesbiglaughingcock2 years ago

That is what thinkers do. Thinkers come to their own conclusions, using everybody's experiences. I learned nothing from this post, what I do realize about this sub though is that its predominantly about feels good posts and getting upvotes, not becoming the most alpha male you can be.

1 upvotesCanuckinFL2 years ago

I think I'd agree with you, but with a dash less disdain. The testimonials I reread in here keep me grounded in reality. My best thinking got me in here, as is said in AA meetings. So yeah, maybe not the most instructive of things to read all the time. But I still get a lot of value in this sub, because doing your thing right, if you are, is somewhat of a lonely venture.

Nothing kills humans like solitude. And yet most men crave a lot of it. :)

3 upvotesTheRedPillMonkey2 years ago

Exactly this. Trust but verify. When I found TRP, a lot of it made sense right away just from experience. The rest I put to the test and when it proved to work well, I was in. That said, not everything should be taken at face value or absolute gospel. Especially these days where post quality is low and by guys who have no business writing posts.

0 upvotesPhysio_Tool2 years ago

We have no one to blame but the very creators of The red pill subreddit. Its engrained that any sort of concern trolling will lead trp back into a blue pill seddit that it was bourne out of. Translation: be a good little sheep and follow what the internet alphas do. Fuck that shit, im going to call a spade a fucking spade.

1 upvotesbiglaughingcock2 years ago

funny how you got downvoted on that, yes it is buffoonery

16 upvotesmax_peenor2 years ago

think for themselves

It's getting even worse than that. They don't just want the answer, they want you to do the work for them too. We have things like speed dating because men can't be bothered to put themselves in front of a female themselves.

7 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Not only that, but the retards going to this shit never stop to think "what kind of woman would attend an arrangement like this? The top tier ones or the low tier ones?". Everybody wants to be sold on lies like "Come to speed dating, where unicorns are waiting for your limp dick with approach anxiety"

3 upvotesJustForTRP2 years ago

AWALT.

What makes a top tier or low tier woman? Looks? Plenty of hot girls in speed dating or tinder, so that's retarded.

Madonna / whore syndrome is what you suffer from.

All women are whores for the right guy.

So your "classy, top tier, wait 5 months before sex prude" for you is a "low tier sleeze who fucks in 5 minutes" for another man

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I have fucked 12 girls off tinder, none of them have been LTR material. Girls I've met through hobbies and work have been much better women, primarily stable and without the damaged stories like "i was raped" "my father abused me", thats the kind of shit you meet on tinder. Just think, why would a legit 9 install Tinder? She allready has top quality men after her 24/7. The only 9's u see on Tinder are promoting their IG or just there for gratifcation.

1 upvotesMuhTriggersGuise2 years ago

Same thing applies to online dating and apps. High SMV women don't use them, they already have high SMV men engaging them. On top of that, high SMV men rarely use apps/online much, because it's much easier to get high SMV women in person where low SMV guys filter themselves out, instead of trying to make it through the noise online and on apps.

2 upvotesmummersfarce_is_done2 years ago

Everyone gets what they deserve. Cowards with approach anxiety get plain janes who look like 9s in their profile photo and the truly brave meet and go out with the real hot stuff. Life is a test of mettle.

1 upvotesJustForTRP2 years ago

Brave low smv guys will get rejected so whats the point

1 upvotesJustForTRP2 years ago

Are you saying guys shouldnt approach women until they become high smv? So they shouldnt approach women for years until theyre like 25?

2 upvotesMuhTriggersGuise2 years ago

Yeah the number of shit threads of people posting their exact situation, wanting to be told what to do, instead of just reading the sidebar, is growing. There's also many more shit posters who don't seem to know the first thing about TRP replying with non-TRP advice.

2 upvotesozaku72 years ago

Yeah, they want the medicine without the side effects of actually doing work. Like women who rather starve to hear death instead of just doing intensive sports to lose fat.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

kinda sums up my experience with reddit. actually that's what i use reddit for.. dear god.

0 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

Liquor and Whores has summed it up perfectly.

0 upvotesmnhoops2 years ago

It starts with meditation. Every TRP'er needs to meditate.

-2 upvotesSonOfSparda3042 years ago

I like what you said and believe it because it confirms my way of thinking

-3 upvotesCormacD1232 years ago

Welcome to the spoon fed generation. The lack of self awareness and individuality is at an all-time low in terms of someone building themselves in useful ways and questioning information they observe.

140 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

1 -Votes mean absolutely nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I can make a feel good post about one of the dead horse tenants that'll get upvoted to the moon because I've pandered to my audience. Who and what does that benefit? Consider your demographic.

I'd rather make a contentious post that gets a few sheep actually thinking for themselves.

2 - Automatically discount any post that has a "just swallowed the pill" prologue. This takes years to digest. The pill is extended release, you can't crush and snort it in one session.

3 - Anyone under 24 has no business posting advice on this forum. You're still children. At that age you should be attempting to learn, not attempting to teach. Field reports, sure, but leave the theory and dissertations to those with actual experience, otherwise you're shitting up the board with your untested individual thought processes. You're adding noise, not signal. You don't know what you don't know.

4 - Skimming post history is the only way to glean what kind of a person you're dealing with here on the anonywebz. Often saves me a lot of time because I'll discover the guy is a nutjob, or a troll, or just so caught up in his own weirdly twisted version of smurfy idealology that I'd simply be wasting my time. WTF are you special children doing on this sub in the first place if you don't like the flavor of the koolaid? You really have nothing better to do with your time but try burn random shit down?

5 - All communities wither... Original thinkers group up, create something new and clever. This attracts more and more people. Some drink the koolaid, some just want to come mock and try tear it down. As interest grows, the ratio of originals to newbies flops. New blood in, the old blood either has obtained all it wants from the community, or gets fed up with the incessant screeching noise and leaves. Further information dilution. Value leaching. More noise from noobs, less signal from OG's, both from attrition and the fact that at some point, it's all been said before. Mods change to represent the new community norms, becoming more accepting of noobs shitting up the place. Without OG and vigilant mods, it becomes a blind leading the blind scenario. The whole place goes up in flames. There's your story arc. That's why the "respect the tag" post is over in the sidebar, and why I'm disappointed when some newb shits on an EC to show how EDGY he is. Good thing I'm not a mod because I'd take that fucker OUT. No womsplanation. Disagree, sure. Bring up a valid point, hell yes. Having a grownup discussion with a mod/EC is one of the best things you can do. But suffering fools is very low on the agenda for the day. We've been there. Take a second and think what this place would become without mods or EC's.

6 - It's all been said before. If you go through the archives, if the community has grown, if you are informed and erudite, you can pull out a post from years ago that answers every question posed here. Different analogies, different teaching strategies, sure, but at some point the flow of new information ceases.

7 - The demographic... You're here because you are not happy. There is a splinter in your mind. Something is not right. The problem is you're entitled children that expect and demand a neatly boxed answer.

There is no neatly boxed answer.(Well, there is, but you have to spend a year here to understand that this place IS the shortcut to an amazing life.)

You "deserve" NOTHING. I'm here because I feel sorry for you sad fucks and I have the time to post. I don't get paid for this shit. I get a little validation and happiness when someone PM's me about how he's changed his life, but that's it.

Nice post, OP.

Eat Shit and Die

19 upvotesFaderOne2 years ago

Sweet Jesus this is accurate.

Is there a way to filter so one can only view Mod/Endorsed Contributor content? I’ll take quality control into my own hands.

The noise from noobs does not help anyone especially more noobs because they get a twisted idea of TRP.

I guess that what the sidebar is for though. The shit there rarely if ever ages.

2 upvotesSoulRedemption2 years ago

I think it sometimes its good to go through what you call 'noise from noobs'. Only so far till you realize that it's 'noise', then let go. This keeps things in perspective.

2 upvotesFaderOne2 years ago

Not bad for perspective… I actually like that idea. I’m sure you should only do so when you have a strong foundation and you’re able to easily classify wether what you’re reading falls into place or out of place

1 upvotesSoulRedemption2 years ago

Yes, that's true. If the foundation is not there any if unable to think critically or perspectively, the person will just sway everywhere with what he reads.

2 upvotesFaderOne2 years ago

Like a plastic bag being throwing around in the wind

1 upvotesincognitodoritos2 years ago

Sort by top and filter to links from all time

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Skimming post history is the only way to glean what kind of a person you're dealing with here on the anonywebz.

Agreed......people sometimes get bent out of shape when you do it. It's hilarious.

10 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

OMG you stalker...

Daily I've been posting in (vidgajame sub), but I don't slay as much pussy as I want.

WtF is going on?

1 upvotessx2eck2 years ago

Uh huh. I used to bother with replying / attacking but now I let the advice simmer and accept that for every 1 contributor of actual advice are 100 socially deficient retards in search of attention through abrasion.

That said, it's fun to do it sometimes, and I have seen you do it.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

All work and no play makes Jack a dull Boy.

3 upvotesantariusz2 years ago

I got tired of slaying pussy, my sex drive is also in the shitter from a cycle. Playing video games is honestly more appealing to me than sex right now even though I’ve woken up every day for the past week with a raging hardon (yea prohormones).

If you went back in time and told 24 year old depressed virgin me this information I’d think you were high on drugs.

As long as this forum exists for the people who want the information, to be able to access the information, then everything is good. The people who need it will be able to filter out the fake from the real. The problem, 11 years ago, is this kind of information was pretty hard to come by, even if you were interested in learning it.

Reading pdfs and other “web books” written by PUAs about their ideal method with no collaboration or debate was not the best way to learn, but I made due.

And guys that don’t want to learn, well they will just keep on playing the latest EA sports franchise and probably aren’t even on this subreddit at all.

I’m more inclined to believe the people posting shitty advice are doing it intentionally so, because this subreddit offends their worldview.

2 upvotesEclectiqque2 years ago

tha ks for the input

about the archive part, I know it may sound like I want to be spoon fed but any extra tips on how I could navigate the archive or where to start?

TRP seems very valuable it’s just that I didn’t manage to see how to look through archives - maybe it’s my lack of computer saviness

52 upvotesS5M2 years ago

This applies to whatever GLO writes too, don't just listen to him just because he is GLO.

Need to be careful because he says some retard shit sometimes too, maybe it's the steroids.

13 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

Don’t worry, I don’t listen to anything as gospel, whether it’s here or real life. GLO posts plenty of shit I don’t agree with at all, but he also posts plenty of shit I do. We have to filter it for ourselves.

3 upvotesvandaalen2 years ago

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3 upvotesvandaalen2 years ago

He is explicitly not only endorsed by the creators and maintainers of this sub but is flagged as a senior member and even has an own flair, so you could say that he's got a special standing in this community and therefore you should absolutely listen to everything he writes.

Also TRP is not an ideology and all the bullshit you wrote is exactly perpetuated by the blue pill faggots.

So I'd say if it's GLO vs you, it's pretty clear, who people should be listening to.

12 upvotesCoupDeGrace222 years ago

Guy above you is definitely a blue-pill faggot for stating what's actually true eh? (even though he's wrong for completely writing off GLO for virtue of that alone.)

Ironically in our example GLO recently called another prominent figure of this community out for preaching shit he didn't do( and mostly for looking small af ), had he not, everyone would continue the endorsed circle jerk of "Absolutely listen to this guy!".

I get that some guys want to do their best to help the people involved here , but saying that your tag makes your opinions de facto valid or gives priority to your word is bullshit, we've seen fuckloads of retarded shit from tagged members, hell ~1 year ago a tagged member was shitposting the fuck out of this sub with meaningless posts along with a pure broscience article on dick health and came out after a while saying those shitposts were his "personal experiment" along with some other edgy conclusions and a few sprinkles of actual useful info here and there.

If someone found this sub but is so devoid of critical thinking that he needs to be told who to listen to even AFTER going through sidebar material, then fuck it, it's on him, end of story.

2 upvotesmetallicdrama2 years ago

I’ve spent years wondering one person can be so stupidly genius and geniusly stupid at the same time.

0 upvotesvandaalen2 years ago

Same could be speculated about you and estrogen. Who knows?

88 upvotesGayLubeOil2 years ago

The core problem is this. The Red Pill functions by deprogramming you of the unproductive blue pill behaviors that prevent you from getting laid.

Now our audience is young and ready for change however most of the kids here are over eager don't understand the guiding philosophy. They just wanna be alpha! Tell me the sex password I'm ready 2 fuk!

Untill the kids here understand the core message they will never know what is Red Pill and what isn't. They will continuously get reinfected with bloop thought and go nowhere. It's a real shitshow.

However our shitshow is waaaay better then the Old Dog No New Tricks Married Red Pill Shitshow and way way better than the I can be Feminist and Red Pill RPW shit+menstrual blood shitshow.

Moral of the story you can learn a lot by critically reading and understanding what others do wrong so you don't make the same mistakes

4 upvotesScottyKaratee2 years ago

Tell me the Sex password and I’m ready to fuck haha. You are spot on with what you are saying I just had this conversation last night/this morning. This time isn’t a Gmail account where you get a welcoming email stating “congrats ScottyKaratee on your new free Alpha Male Status! Have you downloaded the official Alpha Male app to make being alpha male more smooth on your IOS/Android system yet?

3 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

Moral of the story you can learn a lot by critically reading and understanding what others do wrong so you don't make the same mistakes

That’s the main reason I read FR’s. The good ones always have valuable lessons.

24 upvotesPurpleVeteran2 years ago

Fuck that... 80% of the FRs posted here are either "I was banging this chick and she admitted a RP truth" or "my friend was so beta, and his shitty GF did something shitty -- AWALT."

You want to live by anecdotes of what other people say or do? Fine, but that's not improving yourself, just reinforcing your existing mindset -- whether RP or otherwise.

Here's a lesson...

Kill your addictions: put down the cigarette, bong or game controller, and stop seeking validation from those around you. Take care of the shit in life you can control: clean up after yourself, lift heavy things, and set some goals. Fuck worrying about "other people's mistakes" and focus on being authentic.

9 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

Learning through other people’s mistakes is a fucking good way to learn, why on earth would you want to make a mistake which you could avoid just by obtaining a little knowledge? Our existence is based on the fact we remember mistakes our ancestors made, and we don’t make them anymore.

(Basic example, would you test which wild fruits are poisonous by eating each one until you die, or would you read a book written by a man who has been there, has friends who died by eating the bad shit, and can tell you what poisonous shit to avoid?)

There are some good FR’s, which are genuine and usually involve a guy fucking everything up. You read it, learn some lessons, and one day find yourself in the same situation and manage to not fuck it up because a similar scenario has already been played out in your head before.

Figuring out which FR’s are real and which are BS is entirely down to the reader.

Edit: completely agree about kicking addictions and lifting heavy weights, that’s a pre req and everyone here should be doing it.

4 upvotesBewareTheOldMan2 years ago

Learning through other people’s mistakes is a fucking good way to learn...

It's one of the reasons I post on TRP, other SubReddits, and offer general advice to anyone who wants to listen. I'm an older guy, have suffered through my own experiences, and come out clean on the other side. Not only that, I’ve seen others face major consequences or destroy their lives with stupid life-decisions or behavior.

One situation was serious enough to almost get jail time - a false accusation of harassment, stalking, threatening, and domestic violence - NONE of which was true, but I had no idea I shouldn't have been dealing with a crazy, train wreck of a woman to begin with due to naivety, youth, little life experience, but mostly lack of positive male guidance and mentorship.

My life would have been so much better if I had a father/father figure say the following statements:

Son - don't marry that woman. You will regret it, and this is why...

Son - don't get involved with Single Mothers. You will regret it, and this is why...

Son - don't get involved with emotionally damaged women. You will regret it, and this is why...

Son - avoid the following list of toxic women [proceeds to elaborate on list of toxic women]. You will regret it, and this is why...

Could have saved much heartache, frustration, money, and been much better off overall – I hope young guys are learning from my mistakes.

3 upvotesFyrjefe2 years ago

You both have good points, but this is not an instance of either/or but both/and. Caveat! It's easy to get stuck spinning your wheels in reading here. Best to go out and work on yourself. Read literature, lift things, and learn some new recipes. Also, reading how people screw up isn't actually a preventative measure. You have to practice doing things correctly so that you don't put yourself in the position of screwing up in the first place. And if shit hits the fan outside of your control, your reflexes should be practised enough to get you out of the mess. FRs are only a single aspect of training your awareness. Anyway, great post. Put everything to the test. The main takeaway of this thread is action.

1 upvotesPurpleVeteran2 years ago

I'm not saying you can't learn from people's mistakes. The most valuable field reports are actual reports on what the author did, how it worked, and what he learned from that. What we get these days are second-hand stories and gossip. Who fucking cares that you met a chick who was mental, or that your bro keeps repeating his BP mistakes? I think we can all agree that the world is full of dumb and shitty people.

Talk about yourself, share your own experience. There's a weekly MRP megathread on "owning your shit", where people set goals, admit their mistakes, seek advice, and basically come to be held to account. Metal sharpening metal.

2 upvotescBIGONE2 years ago

In addition, cut down on the fucking porno addiction people!

0 upvotesmetallicdrama2 years ago

Most FRs are made up. Like 80% of them I can’t even finish reading because they’re so dumb.

22 upvotespacothebattlefly2 years ago

Welcome to the state of politics

19 upvotessleepyweaselisawake2 years ago

Take a page from Bruce Lee, take what you can use and leave the rest. This sub has given me three things; relentless self improvement, abundance mentality, and outcome independence. FRs, theory, the occasional WTF post are entertaining, but putting the fundamentals in practice are all anyone really needs.

6 upvotescBIGONE2 years ago

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6 upvotescBIGONE2 years ago

They get a kick out of giving advice every once and awhile or the more likely answer: they are living their life in abundance, and don't even think about this place

1 upvotes11-Eleven-112 years ago

Ive been lurking for just over a year and i felt that the content level dropped considerably about a month or two after I joined. Would say it was around december when you noticed?

1 upvotesWhitified2 years ago

Where did all the posters with the real wisdom go?

Personally I think the last great posters in the manosphere retired in 2007-2008

There's only so much to say about the world's oldest topic. The rest you have to experience for yourself; aka get off the internet

1 upvotesdrbldmny2 years ago

it has always been like that

the most successful people whose advice would actually be useful rarely if ever post on reddit

9 upvotesmax_peenor2 years ago

I'm going to respond to you from a commend (of yours) below.

I’ll take my advice from those who have proven it has value.

It's an anonymous internet message board, sparky. Almost no one has proven anything about themselves here. GLO, Rian and Rollo, who isn't really a regular poster, are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head and that's because they aren't particularly anonymous.

This is why the message is important. Yes, we have had a sea of retarded dumbshits posting vaginal moments, just like the post you cited. This is not a reason to throw basic rules of discourse and debate into the shitter. If Captain Estrogenaut actually had something useful and TESTABLE to say, then it is worth something.

4 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

You are correct. But the whole point of an EC is that they have a post history which can be viewed, and which shows that at the very least they have been around and contributed valuable content for some time.

This means generally, I will be more willing to accept an EC post and test its material, than I will some rando. Being an EC is generally the closest we get to “verified non bullshitter”. It doesn’t mean anyone who’s not an EC has nothing to contribute, it just means we can all be aware that they haven’t got the “verified non bullshitter” tag, so be extra careful.

But of course, if you haven’t revealed your real face, there is any chance you’re just a troll or a hambeast. And that’s where using our own brains comes in, and we question even the posts from the most senior members, and test it ourselves and draw our own conclusions. There are many senior contributors I do not always agree with, but there are often nuggets of knowledge that I can use in my own way.

7 upvotesRian_Stone2 years ago

Fuck you, stop looking to replace your father or your Netflix Special.

This means generally, I will be more willing to accept an EC post and test its material, than I will some rando.

You don't need to accept anything. Fucking entitled millenial bullshit. And you tell people here, with a straight face, that the reason YOU don't value things is because WE don't spoon feed you our medical records, video evidence, and other SPOONFEDING. Even though you followed the sidebar, did the basic, bare minimum people do before even posting, as if it's an accomplishment.

Here's what you need to know, you're an entitled cunt. You're mad because these monkeys aren't dancing the way you want them to. I read your one year FR, you've clearly done the bare minimum (that everyone should have done in here before even posting) And you shouldn't need heros, you got everything you need, so stop with the whining.

As for your comment on paper alpha, they aren't going to leave. TRP ban list is thousands long, and it gets longer every day. You need to stop worrying about who is a shity tier guy in here, and start contributing. At this point, you should be a net producer over a net consumer, complaining over season 4 of TRP

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

If you don’t produce value, you’re opinion is shit.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

An important phenomon to consider reading stuff is the power of the placebo effect. If someone full wholeheartedly believes something he does WILL work, it is more likely to work than if he were neutral to the theory in first place.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

We have this discussion every 6 months. Some ECs and senior members think that unless you are getting laid on the regular then you should not post anything except FRs and questions in askTRP. Others point out that this is the internet and people want to have a turn and feel included. I personally think anything posted by a senior/ mod/ EC/ Vanguard should be stickied and left at the top for a week before it drops into the shit stew of your daily member posts. Sometimes you get some gold from junior members but it is like fishing for diamonds in a river of shit.

14 upvotesMethod0072 years ago

Yea that post the other day about not dating women over 35 was fucking autistic.

12 upvotesDrinkMyPenis2 years ago

Guys that have never seen hot women over the age of 35 have clearly never been to a gym in their lives.

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I would rather date a woman over 35 who keeps in shape than someone in their 20's

-8 upvotesanonlymouse2 years ago

What was so important that you submitted this post before finishing what you meant to say?

0 upvotesHillarysdilddo_20162 years ago

Lol you can have all the > 35 year olds on the planet. I'd prefer it that way.

9 upvotesShaney962 years ago

Many look at all posts here as an extension to their Bible.

Everything really should be looked at from a perspective of neutrality and suspicion, so as not to take everything you read right on board, but to look at it, process it, then make an informed judgement on it's quality/applicability.

5 upvotesuebermacht2 years ago

Said post: http://archive.is/qATux

6 upvoteswhats_the_deal222 years ago

That shit was upvoted? Come on people.

1 upvotesMarventh2 years ago

I saw a comment of that guy saying "3 even hurt themself somehow" like he was praising that was a good thing. What the fuck.

5 upvotesWerewolf35b2 years ago

Yet when you question any aspect of trp doctrine, you get attacked and downvoted. There's no discussion on the validity of any of this. And I dont think the people that came up with this stuff are that much of an authority on well, anything.

People act like this shit is pure fact and written in stone. I don't see what authourity people speak on here. Some shit I agree with some I don't.

A few days ago guys were having a heart attack because i posted a comment that you shouldn't bend over backwards to avoid buying a chick a drink, as you might miss out on pussy to pat yourself on the back that you weren't "taken advantage of" for $4.

But oh noes!! It's trp doctrine to not buy a drink, presumably because a guy wrote a crappy trp ebook once and asserted it, pulled straight from his ass, and now it's written in stone. It's gospel.

5 upvotesaewiggin2 years ago

These days the Red Pill community seems to be fueled by outrage and rhetoric.

For the most part, I think it's because damaged, angry men have come here in need of a safe place to vent. TRP has been getting new, angry boys much faster than it has been outputting balanced, reasonable men, so anger has become the accepted "default state" for the sub. A lot of people have forgotten that the anger is meant to be temporary.

I've been wondering if there should be a separate community for men who have gotten over the anger and are ready to calmy and rationally discuss sexual strategy and masculine identity.

1 upvotescBIGONE2 years ago

Buying a drink is perfectly fine. I think a lot of people dont understand the rule of reciprocity.

If the woman doesn't feel like she needs to buy you one or take you out at some point soon, you should probably pass on her.

Actually, I sometimes prefer this. You can test a girl really quick for 4 bucks. I know people that spend a lot more for less

1 upvotescoco54402 years ago

Reciprocity is a concept far too many women don't understand. Weeding them out for 4 bucks is a great deal.

1 upvotesmental_models2 years ago

Even with the great base of wisdom that this sub has, there are still a shocking amount of sheep in here who don't understand TRP and are also not generally capable of critical thinking.

Look at the new Progress Thread... 3 of the reports feature their masturbating habits!

Many of these bloopers not only lack the TRP understanding, but also seem to lack even trial and error experiences in any form. When you say "Hey, I am employed and I don't mind buying a date coffee or drinks without playing mini-power games. I'm not going overboard, and I'm not going to be their ATM or provider, but I am comfortable spending a small amount of seed money here", they can't comprehend that.

6 upvotesItsYough1232 years ago

Finally a post I can agree with. I'm not red pill nor am I blue pill. I'm just a normal guy who tries to use his best judgement. I read the side bar and it has some good information but I always feel like a lot of users take it out of context. The most upvoted crap on here baffles me a lot of the time. It seems to come from bitter, angry guys who seem to hate women and somehow believed they were unicorns that could do no wrong when they were younger. It's this kind of thinking that makes me question a lot of the stuff these guys are saying because if they were that socially lacking when they were younger then I've no doubt reading a few articles isn't suddenly going to make them into the big slayer they claim to be now. I take nearly everything that is said on here with a grain of salt. When you question people on here and they reply coming off bitter as fuck it's clear to me that they're not in as control as their big posts would make out.

As you said, and it would be my advice as well, take some of the information from the side bar and use it to the best of your ability. Don't make 9000 word posts claiming you now know everything about women and how you're this big alpha male etc, it's just cringy as fuck to me.

2 upvotesRollo_Mayhem32 years ago

While your point is valid (people need to think through any information they read) your advice to weight certain contributors more heavily is flawed because those posts and comments also deserve examination.

Also, I think you are correct about highly accurate posts by non-endorsed members getting buried (I can't figure out if it is deliberate or not). For example, I gave a FR that contains several pieces of fairly straightforward advice about dating and getting laid, and it got no upvotes despite over 2.5k views..and the comment all attacked me on rando angles...rather them address the substance. I found that weird. and believe me I am not spending time writing things looking for fame...

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

People have largely lost the ability to use their own intuition and think critically.

Wisdom is accumulated through the gathering of knowledge, then applying that knowledge through courageous action.

Without the action step and determining how the knowledge actually works for you in your life, you'll never gain wisdom.

It's only through gaining of wisdom when one can critically analyse new information they receive and intuit whether or not it's applicable or true to them.

2 upvotesDrinkMyPenis2 years ago

I always check the post history before I even bother reading the post at hand. It doesn't take that long to vet a poster for yourself.

Also anything from a month-old account to a guy who's under 27 years of age I typically discard, though I'll tend towards reading the article if the guy is between the ages of 24-26. Sometimes, it's actually not a waste of time. Sometimes.

2 upvoteswhuttupfoo2 years ago

Some of the most highest voted comments are from people who frequently posted in the incels subreddit and share the same views. There’s been a huge influx of blue pill shit being praised as if it’s red pill. TRP is actually going down the shitter. If you want real insight, read the old posts throughout the years, red books like the Rational male, follow the red pill gurus on twitter, and just surround yourself with the right people in real life.

2 upvotesSpacemage2 years ago

I stopped coming to most of the threads here, and commenting far less, because the people who post in here tend to be hurt boys who are sexist as fuck, or have empathy issues. I'm not saying everyone is like that, but trying to have a two sided conversation in this sub is nearly impossible. Just to touch on the "many people post and leave" type comment.

Keep in mind a good number of people in here are bitter or just shitty humans. Yes, women can be a problem, but too many people think women Are THE problem, when infact that's not true as a whole. Another one of the problems is trying to discuss that with people.

But back to the main point. Use your brain. Consider things, think about them, apply then to a situation in your mind, reconsider it, think about it again, then decide.

2 upvotesConor_Niggregor2 years ago

Well, judging from post history

And that's where I stop reading

4 upvotesTsunnnami2 years ago

This is even a bigger problem when it comes to famous and successful PUA artists - I can understand that people look at success as being an indicator of that person's competence in the field, but there as so many other important factors that have to be taken into consideration:

1.More than one path leads to the same destination and yes, the different journey matters, because it decides who you become. You can get 100 women in your bed by being a semi-jerk and deceiving them, or you can get 100 women in your bed by offering value and having a noble character. This is just an example of course, there are unlimited combinations for unlimited situations.

2.Argument from authority fallacy: just because the information comes from a person who has an authority in a specific field ( and is usually right about 80-90% of things ), it doesn't mean that the information that he gives has to be right ALL THE TIME. There is a margin of error for ANY person, no matter how big they are, that margin of error contains all those erroneous ideas that he voluntarily or involuntarily presents as being correct.

3.Different methods for different masters - No matter if it's about life philosophies, principles, strategies, techniques, ways-of-doing-things, etc., EVERYTHING that you do is an extension of yourself. When you start doing things that aren't actually a reflection of your spirit, perhaps you won't observe it at first, but over time you will see how alienated you become from yourself and no matter what you achieve, it just won't feel like it's yours; because it isn't !

It's one thing to learn from someone and integrate those lessons into your life, but it has to fit YOU. This might seem common sense for some people, but it's so far from common sense. Every day we are influenced by people who we put on a pedestal and subconsciously we tend to do things like they do them, only to realize that it doesn't feel right. At this point, a cognitive dissonance happens, because what we do doesn't feel right, but at the same time it feels right to get those results that we expect to get from our actions that are influenced by the methods that we see others are using. So what's there to do then ? To calibrate the methods we learn from others and make them fit our own character. To "cut the fat" of the method = if you deconstruct a certain method a person uses, you will see that it has more components.

Example 1: a PUA artist can have a 6-step method to get a woman at a bar, but you don't agree with step 4 - fine, you can take it out and see what happens if you do the other steps without that one, or maybe you can include a new step and replace the other. My point is that you don't have to throw out the whole method, only because an element of it doesn't work for you or you don't want to do it, because it's just contrary to some principle that you might have. Take what's useful from it & eliminate the rest ( and when I say useful, I don't mean comfortable, re-designing a method is not for the ones who want to take an easier route or a shortcut or are too lazy to execute something, re-designing a method is for the ones who have some important and strong principles that they don't want to give up and who can transform the method so that it fits them, without taking out the difficulty of it).

Example 2: it happens that you like very much what a person has to say about certain subjects, so you assume that everything about his personality and his behavior is doing him justice, but that isn't necessarily true. Some great gurus are neurotics, other are misogynists, others are having annoying obsessions, etc. - now this doesn't mean that they don't have valid points and great ideas, it simply means that you've got to be selective.

I remember that I was obsessed with a very intelligent and sharp social critic and the guy is truly great, he has mind-blowing ideas and razor-sharp thinking, but for a long time I was blind to see how he is also very aggressive ( not physically ) and neurotic, so for a period of time I was also becoming increasingly more aggressive and more neurotic. At that time, it seemed like "it all comes with the package", like this aggression is really what drives him to be a sharp thinker. And it's true, the aggression is really what drives him to be a sharp thinker, but this doesn't mean that it has to be what drives me to be a sharp thinker.

Just like I was stating at the beginning - there are more ways that lead to the same achievements and it matters a lot which way you take, because it's going to transform who you are and you want to be smart when it comes to who you are.

6 upvoteslegitimateusername42 years ago

Personally I like the posts that are the sidebar, but far worse and with less detail YOU GOTTA FUCKIN LIFT JUST DO IT BRAH BE A MAN (500 upvotes).

2 upvotesStudntRdyTeachrApear2 years ago

Anonymity is valuable in online discourse. For TRP, credentials would be useful. Too bad exposing yourself is too risky.

2 upvotesSocietalEngineering2 years ago

Love this post. Thinking for yourself is itself a core RP principle. I see way too much bullshit advice on here that gets upvoted for no reason other than at the end of the post they mention lifting.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Plastique makes your Testosterone go down!
Counter-Post: No it does not

Looks matter, check my Nazi-Tinder-Profiles
Counterpost: Screw Black Pill

Be alpha and beta to screw over females
Counterpost: Thats dumb.

In the end this might be a good lecture for everyone. Most people don't know shit and EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW SHIT aren't always right. "Think for yourself" is thankfully a statement noone can disagree on. Simply because that is pretty much the first step to getting in control over your own life.

2 upvotesNarcKammerjaeger2 years ago

Too many covert narcissistic sperglords over compensating from one extreme to the other. They hate theire old 'BP' self-image and are now discussing woman's eggs on here to escape that massive cognitive dissonance that conditioning and low t levels are causing. Fixing the later 2 they call hamsterig. Also women over 30 are subhuman and are not worth spending time on. Ofc lil'CEO I understand you have 50000 subordinates waiting to get orders so you are really tight on time 25/7. But digging up behavioral studies done on rats or hamsters is worth your time dear spergy, right?

2 upvotesZenitco2 years ago

i think people below a certain age (23-24?) shouldn't be allowed to post

i think its fine if they post on asktrp though

-2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

That’s stupid. People younger than 24 can have valuable input and people over 24 can still be blue pill retards

2 upvotesZenitco2 years ago

Of course older people post stupid shit; its just much less. Too many filler crap here.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

And what evidence do you have to suggest that all the filler crap comes from young people?

6 upvotesZenitco2 years ago

let me read through thousands of threads and compile some statistics for you

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

The least you could do is have SOME sort of basis for your claims.

But back to the point, with your logic we might as well make the age limit 40+ because there are probably more shitty posts coming from people in their 30s than from people in their 40s.

Unless you can prove that people under 24 make up such an overwhelming amount of the shitty posts that it’s worth censoring them, then your idea is pointless.

Even then, it’s not hard to lie about your age on a Reddit account.

3 upvotesMattyAnon2 years ago

Then read the random FR’s and theories, and judge for yourself if they seem real

My suggestion is to think for yourself, but also to TEST for yourself.

Look around you at everyone you know. Might this be true of them? Is there any way you can test this? Will they be honest with you? These are questions you have to answer for yourself.

And look at your own experiences. Does the post ring true? Do you have counterpoints, evidence to the contrary?

The problem many face is not believing things outside our own direct experience. We have no idea what it's like to be female. We have no access to women's genuine n-count. We have never been a girl swiping on Tinder, and female reports of their experiences of the SMP are of course biased by her motivations, desires and intended outcome of that communication. Short of setting up a fake Tinder profile we have no idea if women respond to "hey bb, sex now" from Chad-like men.

Most men simply believe what society and women tell them. But as always the problem with listening to other people is that everyone has a bias and everyone has an agenda. Female communication is very different to male communication. Only the gullible believe men and women are fundamentally the same (obviously this is something you should test for yourself - don't take my word for it).

The BP world would love you to believe that being a wageslave to support an ungrateful woman is somehow correct and right and decent and honourable. The bias is obvious here.

PUA sites would love you to believe that you can go up to women and confidently tell them to spread their legs and you'll be drowning in pussy before you know it. The bias is less obvious here but usually amounts to ego and money. "I'm awesome, you can have what I have, sign up here".

As an EC I'd love to tell you I have a perfect life and women fall on my dick. There's no money at play, but everyone has an ego. I could make this more relevant to you by saying "and you can have what I have, just do what I do, follow me for more tips and upvote this post". To make it more compelling I can spice it up with something non-intuitive: "You wouldn't believe this, but it turns out with women all you have to do is unzip your pants."

I try to keep things balanced in my posts and stick to what I've found to be true rather than what I imagine to be true. It's a constant struggle. There's always the temptation to just paste a quick soundbite, enjoy the validation of the upvotes and get on with my day.

In short: TEST what you read. Don't look at who wrote it, don't make assumptions about the experience or gender of who wrote it.

3 upvotesHeinzdoofens2 years ago

In the end, we are the decision makers. ECs Mods, Seniors, Parents whomever may give advice, if we do not make a decision to follow it, we never will. Their advice may work, may not work, but it is an experience they share, so that we do not make the same mistakes. They give advice because they know they could have reached higher peaks if they had the same advice given to them, or had they avoided that mistake.

Our ex oneitis might've been an actual unicorn, or a full fledged slut, but their advice is, more than to next her or plate her, their advice is for us to just not be in a position of emotional attachment, because it hinders our development. Let her be the best woman ever, but for you, at this moment of life, at this point of time, she is not good. Let her be an emotional wreck who is having a tough life, you can't save her, just like EC's or experienced peoples advice can't save you. She should make a decision to save herself. Just like you must put yourself first and do what is good for you. Let her be a virgin unicorn who wants to pursue a career, why would she commit to you? is her hypergamy wrong in losing it to a famous actor? Let her be a slut banging it up with whomever she likes, she may have all the money in the world, all the things she wants, but if she lacks satisfaction or happiness, is she wrong in chasing strange?

Only you can save you. You can make you, or you can break you.
You can do drugs, drink, get wasted, you can use TRP, to bang as many sluts you can in your life as possible, sure you may end up becoming poor due to not building your life, but why do you care, you can bang whenever you want.

Or you can getup being buried in your own bullshit today, stop getting high on drugs, stop smoking those cigarettes, stop binge dringking, stop watching those useless porn, stop telling NOFAP does not work, stop giving excuses to complete your work, or giving reasons to not study, stop dreaming of that startup you want to build which will make billions, when you don't even know how to code, or do not even have an idea.

Stop all these, and maybe try, try these things which people say here. Start lifting, not because it will help you get girls, but it will definitely help you to get out of that depression. Start dieting and eating healthy, not because you want to cut or you want to bulk, but if you still stay fat, you will die early. Stop smoking or drinking or drugs, not because it is not cool or anything, but to protect your health. Stop porn and masturbation, not because it has some random effects on your brain, but to stop wasting time.

Stop Wasting Time and Build some Discipline.

Talk to that girl, you may not bang her, but you might meet an amazing girl. Chase that pilot license you always wanted, yes it requires utmost discipline and dedication of body and mind, maybe you will become a pilot someday, maybe you fail, but you will have the satisfaction that you tried. That you did your best. That is the point of a mission. It is not the goal which gives the most happiness, it is the journey you take when you are on that mission. Sure you might not become a pilot, but when you were squatting in the gym, completely tired and sore, you will tell yourself that you have to squat one more set, you will tell yourself I will be a pilot if I complete the set, I may not become one if I do not do this set, then you imagine yourself in the cockpit and start the set. That is the Power of a Mission. You might not reach that goal, but all throughout your journey, you were living that goal, in your mind.

We can say I am alpha, you are beta and all that to satisfy our own ego, but if we do not put in the hard work, no matter alpha/beta, we will never reach our goal. We can shit on famous people, famous celebrities, saying I'm better, hes a beta etc again to satisfy our ego, but we are the ones who are living mediocre lives, while they are the ones changing the world.

You need to put all your money in that business that you always wanted to start, you may lose it completely, Just like you can put all your efforts on a girl and lose it all. Spinning plates does not build abundance, being attractive and girls roaming around you does not build abundance, because you are nothing once they leave.

Losing everything you hold dear to you, be it all the money you saved for business or the death of your closest friend, getting wrecked completely, getting wrecked by that oneitis, be it financially, emotionally, or physically, with no hope in living, living on the edge contemplating suicide, almost about to die, when you somehow stop yourself, when you tell yourself not to give up, and rebuild everything you lost, that is what builds abundance and outcome independence. When you know you can walk away from the one whom you hold dear, When you know losing means nothing to you, because you can rebuild it anytime, that is what builds abundance and outcome independence. When you know you can face failure and stare death in the eye, and walk calm, not because somebody told you you will recover, but because you have actually lived it and recovered, that is what builds abundance and outcome independence. When you have lived your life however you want, however hard it was and have achieved your dreams, do you think you will still look for validation from that girl? do you think you will tolerate bullshit from her? That is what builds true frame.

Nothing can beat experience. You should be atleast alpha enough to risk failure, take that beta ego to atleast chase something that means something to you, and fail, that is when you lose that ego and start becoming humble. That is when you can be humble to the advice that any older guy or parents or elders or ECs or mods give to you. That is when you stop dangling words like respect which you used to use to describe your girl, and start to actually respect people who have achieved something, stop blaming them and calling them beta or wrong when you are actually jealous or butthurt of them and start respecting each and every word they say because you can imagine all the hardwork and turmoil and frustration and failures it took them to get there. Otherwise, you will never learn.

Start doing something worthwhile in this life, because it means something to you. You only live once.

2 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

That post makes a lot of sense, thanks.

I try to keep things balanced in my posts and stick to what I've found to be true rather than what I imagine to be true. It's a constant struggle. There's always the temptation to just paste a quick soundbite, enjoy the validation of the upvotes and get on with my day.

I can only hope most EC’s think this way. Anonymous or not, the points do stroke the ego, and it’s very tough to remain truthful and not chase validation, regardless of who you are.

1 upvoteswataDs2 years ago

The other week some dickhead posted a theory obviously full of shit. And trying to be edgy and new, countering established trp theory, shit had over 200 upvotes. This page is becoming filled with too many bluepills taking up the front page with with brand new shit trying to be original.

1 upvotesFaderOne2 years ago

Thank fuck. That title irked the shit out of me...like why on earth would you want to do that? If it was framed in the position of “FR: what not to do/consequences of straddling the line of blue/red” then I guess it provides some insight.

God bless you for calling that shit out.

1 upvotesmental_models2 years ago

Signal-to-noise ratio fucking sucks, much like all of the world.

TRP's strength is that it's 'signals' actually do contain wisdom.

1 upvotesblackedoutfast2 years ago

also be very critical about posts by random non-ECs that end with a link to their monetized, ad-filled blog.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

yeah,that's exactly what i have been doing i agree and i always read the comments from endorsed members and everything and i always make my own conclusions about everything from Articles to comments everyone else should do the same think about what's written and how true it really is... and if its something you can actually apply in RL.

1 upvoteschaosrunssociety2 years ago

Think for yourself, question authority, but also remain skeptical of your comrades.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I thought the aforementioned post was decent. Not because there were any Red Pill Truths in the text itself but because of the underlying message and the dialog that came out of it.

The informed beta for lack of a better term is a trojan horse and of course, that breaks women. That breaks everyone.

Imagine taking an HB10 to bed only to find a dick in her panties. This is exactly how the girl feels. She thought OP was Chad Thundercock only to discover the pussy hiding beneath the surface.

To add insult to injury OP was proud of this. The informed beta is an enemy of the people. Women do not like him, society does not like him and most of all we do not like him.

Stop living a lie. Stop being a drone.

1 upvotesAwkwardEmpath2 years ago

"fat hambeast whose bipolar" haha, love that reference.. I think too many hambeasts study TRP related content religiously and post as actual RP guys doing stuff when in reality it's just theories from their "profound" knowledge of TRP looking for attention. Just my opinion, that's why I agree with OP. Judge for yourselves.

1 upvotesWISE_TURD2 years ago

Do not post if you're 20 and younger. I really think someone should consider making trpcollege or trphighschool

Saw a 16 yo kid asking questions on asktrp and then posting garbage on trp the next day. If you've asked a question on asktrp in the last year, YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED.

On the flipside, post at least once if you're 40+

1 upvoteschambertlo2 years ago

As soon as I read “alpha” I was immediately turned off. It’s something about referring to men as alpha/beta that comes off as immature and lacking any real life experience. Also, if someone admits to being any gender other than male or female, I tend to not care about its opinions.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Given that AF:BB is the e=mc2 of the red pill universe I suggest you reassess your dislike for the term alpha. It is a spectrum and we all aim for alpha. That is the goal.

1 upvotestrp_nofap_rewire20182 years ago

Good insight OP

I don’t buy into other people’s shit easily, not before checking up their background and stuff. Btw this is directly related to the unplugging process. Think for yourself, don’t fall for any propaganda. Trust no one. Being a poor BP folk means you blindly believe in the concepts molded by the feminine imperative, if you’re believing in everything you read here/anywhere else then you’re not really red pilled.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

wow this post has like 1k positive karma, take my upvote

1 upvotesSmigg_e2 years ago

This should be stickied. This is the essence of trp that many people miss.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

The problem is, people follow the herd. The post gains upvotes, so it must be fact. Rather than reading it and thinking for themselves, they’ll just take it as gospel, add another upvote, and be on their way.

you are spot on and this something that I have always been aware of when reading stuff on here

1 upvotesEl_Tewksbury2 years ago

Long time lurker, very rarely do I post.

"Listen to your elders' advice. Not because they are always right, but because the have more experience with being wrong."

1 upvotesDashingRake2 years ago

It is ironic that people who come to a community based off questioning basic tennenants of society still need to be spoonfed both the questions and the answers.

1 upvotesgreatslyfer2 years ago

don't be gullible.

I remember when there was a post about a guy who said he who had a fatal disease and needed money in order to pay for treatment and having a shot of life or something close to that effect.

People were just believing him man, and regardless of whether what he said was true or not, in his post there was no verification of his claims only until I motherfucking asked for some, and then he gave it.

Yall just swallowed that shit and believed him, what the fuck.

As the theme of this post is suggests, use some critical thinking, it helps in some situations.

1 upvotestolerantman2 years ago

I don't care about who said it, only what is being said.

I care about truth, not reputation.

1 upvotesiamanalterror_2 years ago

So these people are creating bad content on here, so that they can then go on to blame us for... Bad content that they created? Hilarious.

It's amazing there are people who spend even some of their time and energy trying to bring down TRP.

Just makes us stronger!

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Yeah, every now and then I'll see a post on this subreddit that'll make me scoff. Usually it's the cocky posts that add little of substance, yet get upvoted endlessly by idiots who think it applies to them.

-5 upvotespacothebattlefly2 years ago

If only we could apply this to social media in general, there wouldn’t be a reality TV host as president

8 upvotesRedPillHanSolo2 years ago

Yeah, because having a dirty lying corrupt old hag as a president is much-much better!

1 upvotespacothebattlefly2 years ago

Well, maybe with a dirty lying corrupt old hag you’d still have NET NEUTRALITY!

-3 upvotesMethod0072 years ago

Trump may be dirty and a liar and an old hag but - actually there’s no where else to go with that.

2 upvotesMi99372 years ago

Before reading a post i always scroll down to find if any TRP veterans called the post out on any bullshit before id read

1 upvotesHillarysdilddo_20162 years ago

Can confirm.

Am 312 lbs eating Doritos in my moms basement looking at cuck porn in between TRP comments. Haven't shaved my neck in weeks.

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

At what point did we become a pua sub?

Also daily remainder red pill is a term coined by two social justice warrior trannies.

0 upvotesHillarysdilddo_20162 years ago

Cut off your dick, you live in a virtual world... That's the real red pill!

0 upvotesWerewolf35b2 years ago

Created by trannies? Elaborate please...

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

The guys that wrote the matrix are trannies now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis

1 upvotesilikemychickenfried2 years ago

First thing I do is look for endorsed, senior and trp in the comments to see what they say before even reading the post

1 upvotesGreenPiller2 years ago

Aside from GLO

I stopped reading right there, this isn't the GLO show, we can all bounce off ideas and learn from each other. Sure there is alot of shit, but I've found lots of gems from randoms and anonymous people. I don't come here for the daily GLO worshipping post.

4 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

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4 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

Couldn’t care less. Go take advice on how to get your squat above 200kg from someone who’s overweight, wheelchair bound and never been to a gym in their life. See how far you get.

I’ll take my advice from those who have proven it has value. They earned the right to teach what they know. It’s as simple as that.

1 upvotesshotokanmaster842 years ago

Thats kind of ironic, no? A bunch of virgins trying to give a bunch of virgins sound advice on how to deal with women. I'm sure that flies right over your head though...

1 upvotesmetallicdrama2 years ago

Grammar and rhetoric are just as important as logic. Is the man so expert we trust his invention? Where did he get this intel from? Is he just parroting off something secondhand? Logic only is for math. Don’t trust transmitting wisdom through fools.

0 upvotesDeadlybeef2 years ago

Welcome to the age of fake news. Most people are to stupid to tell the difference between the truth and an obvious lie. As you said, they follow the herd. And then you tell them: think for yourselves god fucking damnit! And they simply nod, having learnt nothing.

0 upvotesIconoclast6742 years ago

Lol don't be gullible? You've already swallowed the red pill!

-1 upvotesSon_of_Tzu2 years ago

This highlights the issues relative to the voting system inherent to reddit.

While the Red Pill was initially made to be an absolute meritocracy ruled by wisdom and knowledge, the democratic and egalitarian system dilutes this greatly.

I wouldn't go as far as wish only endorsed contributors should vote (not against it though) but the increase in low quality content does detract from the initial message.

IMO the freedom of expression (in the case of TheRedPill) should not be distributed so lightly, but more as a priviledge awarded to those willling to both learn and teach.

0 upvotesPM_me_submissives2 years ago

Reddit is not egalitarian at all, but then, few things are.

Reddit is the triumph of the easily agreeable. Not truth, not persuasiveness, not the best rhetoric or the best reason, but the slightly funny word joke reigns supreme.

1 upvotesSon_of_Tzu2 years ago

All votes has the same digital value, meaning we are theorically all eaqually responsable for these turn of events.

Moderation is merely damage control that occurs after the system takes effect.

1 upvotesPM_me_submissives2 years ago

I think you're forgetting vote bot manipulation.

-1 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

“I wouldn't go as far as wish only endorsed contributors should vote (not against it though) but the increase in low quality content does detract from the initial message.”

To be honest I wouldn’t be against this either. It doesn’t restrict what gets posted, but it does give a better idea of what is quality and what is not.

A rotten tomatoes style could work: user votes/endorsed votes.

Doubt that’s possible but it’s an idea.

1 upvotesmental_models2 years ago

that's actually a good idea.

0 upvotesthe_one_tony_stark2 years ago

It is far less important -who- writes it, than seeing how you take new ideas and incorporate them into your life. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. If it is, experiment until you have a solution.

0 upvotesdontbethatguynow2 years ago

its on the internet so it must be true.

-2 upvotesNomfwic2 years ago

Agree 100%

A lot of the bullshit posts normally tries to trickle bluepill back into our philosophies by saying its not like that, shes not like that. The fact is that the side bar and the true redpillers of this community didn't just think of this shit like some of these saps do. Its ideas that has been practically applied and field tested in real world scenarios with real people. Thats what the redpill is all about, rejecting the screen of feelgood BS and applying what really counts, facts!

And it should be mentioned again, that guys new to the redpill should not post. I lurked for 3 years, absorbing and applying. The way I found trp was one day when I stumbled apon the redpill top 500 archive and I read every single post there before I stumbled apon trp subreddit . Here I continued reading almost a year before I started posting comments on subjects that I am knowledgeable on.

-1 upvotesrichpianoooo2 years ago

thats why it should be only those that get endorsed status that should be allowed to publish.

-2 upvotesTheRedPillMonkey2 years ago

I tend to agree with the sentiment, but I've also seen some senior endorsed contributors who've gone off the rails and post some absolute bullshit. It's still probably the best way to separate bullshit posts with good content.

1 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

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1 upvotesbroek_325 [OP]2 years ago

It said it was a woman. Also said it was asexual and liked to fuck girls. It’s irrelevant really as it’s obvious nothing they say is of any value, but most people seemed to miss that.

0 upvotesJohnny-Thunderfrost2 years ago

Thanks for posting. Hadn’t considered this, although that post did seem a bit off to me.

0 upvotesEverythingIsFractal2 years ago

Yes and it's also what gets trp judged in a negative light. The core belief that if you become more valuable ie exercise, income and personality improvements, are lost in the mess of bragging and beta logic.

0 upvotesCelicni2 years ago

If you can’t read a post and take away your own conclusions from it, you’re probably in trouble.

Yeah I kinda think that's why most people come to this place. Shit luck with women, figuring it out yourself didn't work. That's why you read info fed to you by others.

Which is why I'd recommend not reading "new/hot" TRP at all (the sub in general), but instead just the sidebar, endorsed posts, rational male, a couple of books (such as no more mr nice guy), and the top all time posts. Those are proven to be true and correct. No mixed signals there.

Of course, when you feel you can discern the noise from the signal, do participate.

0 upvotesHydraxiler322 years ago

It doesn't say gullible on the ceiling.

0 upvotesAshWebster2 years ago

Learn by doing, not by saying.

0 upvotesphineasphish2 years ago

So is this an acknowledgement that the opinions circulated here are misanthropic desperation easily shepherded by confirmation bias, or is it an excuse to double down on externalising blame?

0 upvotesThrowawaysteve1234562 years ago

How can I bang tons of chicks? I'm overweight, eat like shit, don't play sports, don't work out, am poorly educated, and have little to no drive. I need you to break this down into 5 sentences, and I'm not willing to do any work.

FFS people. When will they realize that where you are in the social hierarchy is dependent upon a lifetime of fucking decisions? We should go back to selling the PUA model, to give these poor fuckers some hope.

1 upvotescoco54402 years ago

Yes! Value is built over years if not decades.

0 upvotesblaaaahhhhh2 years ago

How many calories under your TDEE (how many calories you can consume to maintain weight) are you trying to average throughout the week?

0 upvotesjizzledfreq2 years ago

I pretty much ignore 99.99% of the shit here because most of it just comes across as beta males masterbating their own fragile egos and attempting to appear "alpha as fuck" b/c some woman in the past got their goat and didn't reciprocate their feels.

-2 upvotesGrothendi3ck2 years ago

Frank TJ Mackey brought me here

-1 upvotesWork_In_Progress922 years ago

Thank you for this. I found that post to be a steaming pile of shit that plays to BP fantasies. People are just lazy and do not like to think for themselves or do research to reach their own conclusions.





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