Sir Ian Mckellan on the sex scandal controversy: women sent directors nude photographs that said" DRR' — directors' rights respected. "- Offering sex in favour for roles..

Yourstruly777 · 2017-12-19T13:46:45+00:00

Noomi Rapace (Prometheus girl) said the same thing:

”Many women have played the game and climbed the ladder. They have used the game to their advantage.”

https://www.svd.se/noomi-rapace-on-weinstein-im-not-for-sale

Actanonverba11 · 2017-12-19T17:49:12+00:00

Thank goodness he is gay and knighted. No straight male would be able to survive saying this. Plus, he's old now, and has nothing left to lose.

atleastitsnotaids · 2017-12-19T13:48:40+00:00

Prime example of this are those Instagram models who get paid to go to Dubai and shit. It's equivalent to these girls trying to then accuse the guys who pay for their trip of giving them unwanted sexual attention. Goofy

4angrydragons · 2017-12-19T13:27:50+00:00

We are at a point in society where when it comes to anything sexual you are convicted in the court of public opinion without any evidence of a crime.

Can you imagine any other crime like that. I could accuse anyone of stealing $1000 from me 20 years ago and the world would hate them.

I agree, sex crimes are terrible and no one should ever be physically forced into sex. But there is a burden of proof, and buyers remorse is not proof.

Ov3r9O0O · 2017-12-19T17:16:22+00:00

Heard an older female attorney put it best: women trade sex for power, and men trade power for sex.

drallcom3 · 2017-12-19T17:29:57+00:00

Have you noticed how only women (and men) complain who are over their prime?

No one complains that Harvey touched them yesterday evening. No, it's always 20 years ago. Those opportunistic bitches willingly sleep their way to the top and now jump on the victim bandwagon go gain some attention. Even that Kevin Spacey boytoy who started it all conveniently waited until his new series was on air.

And wouldn't everyone become like Weinstein or Spacey? You have thousands of women willingly throwing themselves at you and probably offering the most disgusting shit you can imagine, just for a chance to become famous. The lightest pressure and they spread their legs? It wouldn't take long to let that fuck up your mind. Now you assume that every woman is like that.

Ironic_Gangster · 2017-12-19T16:47:54+00:00

When a woman uses sex as currency to be given special perks/advancements in her career, she has not committed a crime.

When a man will accept sex as currency to give special perks/advance a woman in her career, he is guilty of rape, sexual assault, etc... tf bois?

MCDownlow · 2017-12-20T00:01:04+00:00

This happens in every industry and institution. Medicine, academia, finance, you name it. It's why functioning societies don't let women have much power. They have an unfair advantage. Anyone ever been passed up by the office slut sleeping her way to the top? We have laws against sexual harassment, but none for using your sexuality to your advantage.

In a healthy society, every one of these women who sucked greasy jew dick would be pariahs. But no, they're on the cover of Time magazine for being brave. Brave is the woman who said no and risked her career and life to come forward, not the used up has-beens crying #METOO who benefitted for decades.

TheLaughingRhino · 2017-12-20T08:25:52+00:00

Gandalf/Magneto is a stalking horse, pure and simple. He has a deep background with Bryan Singer, one of those under heavy scrutiny, and even was in a movie with Brad Renfro, whose manhandling from Singer is said to have contributed to his death.

Gandalf/Magneto is openly gay. Thus he is socially insulated from any criticism for anything he has to say on this subject. He's also ancient, so at worst, he will be dismissed as a tottering old man.

By making the situation "transactional" ( it doesn't mean he's wrong or dishonest, it just shades his motives...), he's offering soft cover for Singer.

Chris Rock said it best. Women want it all. If they don't get it, they are pissed off. So unless you are Leo DiCaprio or Tom Brady, not sure how good this is going to get for the rest of us mere mortals.

I don't think most women truly understand what will happen if men en masse say, "Fine, figure all this shit out on your own" The "Shit" being the hard fucked up stuff in life that men toil and suffer for to make the lives of everyone, mostly women and children, so much better.

Fix your own sink. Paint your own fence. Fix your own garage door. Change your own oil. Yes, women can outsource this, but it costs. When women are forced to understanding the staggering cost of having a free handyman/mechanic/plumber/cook/janitor/driver/IT expert/manual laborer/bodyguard around, then they might realize going on the offensive against men wasn't so bright after all.

PantsonFire1234 · 2017-12-19T14:32:48+00:00

To be fair, if I could get a settlement from the roasties I used to date before getting my life on track, I'd accuse them to. Imagine if guys could sue women for emotional manipulation/abuse. God fellas we'd be rich af.

monsieurhire2 · 2017-12-19T16:16:24+00:00

Regarding the double-dipping aspect; this also reminds me of the porn-stars after their career ends trying to monetize their alleged victimization via books, speaking engagements, interviews, etc. Were some of them actually victims? No doubt. Are many of them just trying to sell yet more lies to a gullible market? Absolutely.

kragshot · 2017-12-19T15:54:25+00:00

Well that tears it...expect an accusation against Sir Ian to come out soon....

vandaalen · 2017-12-19T13:28:50+00:00

Nobody is entitled to a career. If you want to have it, you have to work for it. To what extend is your own choice. Sex is a commodity. Not since yesterday, not even since recently, but pretty much since whenever.

It might be morally questionable to use your position of power to aquire sex from other people, then on the other hand, nobody forced these women to have sex with anybody.

It was their decision that their career was worth more to them than their dignity.

Let aside I'd suspect that most of these women discovered their dignity just recently and were totally fine with getting fucked by men in key positions up to now - some even for decades.

ISaidThatOnPurpose · 2017-12-19T17:06:17+00:00

Yeah I don't say this much because I don't feel like getting screamed at...

...but these women that had sex on purpose in order to get something in return...they're just as f*cked as weinstein.

Maybe even more-so because they had something precious to protect, and tossed it aside for success.

tolerantman · 2017-12-19T17:17:01+00:00

Never make a deal with a woman, ever.

Robx9001 · 2017-12-19T13:37:31+00:00

Weinstein is by no means an "alpha" or someone to model your life after. He is just someone who used his position power to get pussy( woman don't gravitate to him naturally.) If anything this says more about what men/women will do for fame. If sex was clear or offered as terms of agreement I see no reason to feel sorry for these women as they are just glorified prostituts. If the dealings were uncouth(more so than they already are) like last minute threats to cancel contacts, underage, or other blackmail then they do deserve sympathy. While all these women will claim the latter I've heard enough stories of Hollywood degeneracy to give some benefit of the doubt. I guess the moral of the story is if you have any kind of power you can bat outside your league in terms of pussy. Also the thought of Emma Watson taking in the ass to play beauty and the beast is funny to me.

sintral · 2017-12-19T15:34:07+00:00

If men see something wrong with a ladder, they fix it before they climb it.

JamesSkepp · 2017-12-19T09:10:39+00:00

I posted this a month ago about the "scandals", I think it dovetails your point....

Hollywood people self select. They actually want to be popular and famous. Above all. Think about that for a second. They're broken. Morally bankrupt. They don't think like normal people. A distinct subset of people.

They'll do virtually anything for it. No shame. It's actually weirdly interesting to see humans that focused on a goal. (There's a rabbit hole here I'm going to step over.) Transactional quid pro quo abounds. It has since hot actresses found out they'd get the part if they sucked the fat producers dick. The casting couch is an enduring meme because it's true. Been happening in movies since there were movies.

Weinstein's not a creep, he was just playing the game. Guess how many of those self-virtuous morally bankrupt cunts have killed their career by jumping on this particular bus. If you throw down your cards and say..."Out! I'm not playing by these holdem rules anymore!" at the poker table after winning big money for 10 years, you're not getting your seat back. Ever.

But guess how many of those same cunts wouldn't even had a seat at the table in the first place if they hadn't blown some moneyman for the address? Playing the game. Round round we go.

Sex for benefit has been happening since there was life. "You swallow sticky happy juice, I not let sabretooth eat you."

Hollywood people do this daily, only turned up to 11.

Talking about the drama gives the drama life. Like the bitchy feminist that wants you to debate her on the tired old .77c : dollar injustice, the best thing you can do is walk away. Takes two to argue. If you walk away it's just a crazy bitch ranting to herself.

It's the idea of an easy target. Sloppy thirsty betas that roll over and expose their soft fat bellies at the first harsh word are not worth anyones' time...not a fair nor enjoyable fight... like winning a debate against the Down syndrome kids, it's a hollow victory. No valor in that. Alphas who don't give a fuck what some angry fat bluehaired feminist cunt thinks will simply not provide any target at all by not engaging whatsoever and just avoid said cunts completely. No victory if there's no combatant. It's the middle ground where the hamstering validation occurs. Enough fight to get excited or even a "win", but it's not a real challenge because your opponent has already lost by being dumb enough to engage in the first place.

Andy Dick was just fired for being sexually inappropriate. ANDY FUCKING DICK. That alone tells you how fucked Hollywood idiots are.

Trooper_1868 · 2017-12-20T08:59:49+00:00

The worst thing about is, the actual crime. They got with directors, and got roles they should not have, while people with actual talent probably did not. Those are the real victims.

swaglordobama · 2017-12-19T12:18:19+00:00

The real issue is that these people in power never learned game. They just got power used that to pressure girls into sex. The girls never actually wanted to fuck them because they are manipulative betas, false kings, but did it to further themselves in their career. This creates resentment. Compare Weinstein, who has to use his power to get laid, to Dan Balzerian, who has a much smaller fortune, and less power, than Weinstein, but makes it win-win and fun for girls.

Weinstein is not someone to model your life after. He's a loser who resorted to manipulation for sex. If a girl knows you don't deserve her, she will resent you.

popcornready14 · 2017-12-20T01:29:03+00:00

I don't know if this is the place to say it.

But its frustrating as hell to be a man and not being able to have an opinion without being vilified.

junkeee999 · 2017-12-19T16:20:57+00:00

I honestly don't see much wrong with Weinstein. I didn't read every allegation, so if he physically forced rape a girl then that's different. But from what I keep hearing, he would ask girls to sleep with him, and in turn he gave some huge roles that made them millions of dollars and gave them the fame they have today. Every girl could have just walked away.

BlackCraneStoic · 2017-12-19T19:08:38+00:00

It wasn't because I flirted with him and massaged his ego and did what I could to get his attention and make a deal with the devil to get ahead, I just was magically in his room alone...

His ego wasn't all the massaged. Skanks the lot of them. I haven't watched a modern film since this charade started. No intention of doing so anytime soon either.

burritobandido · 2017-12-19T20:12:37+00:00

I mean I get the fact that women feel they were pressed into doing all these sexual things. First of all, if you were old enough to understand the position you were in and still decidedly to stay and go forward with it, you knew what you were doing and what you were getting out of it. You went to see Weinstein not Brad Pitt, so you knew exactly what you wanted to achieve by being sexual with someone else to get ahead in the game. So for some I feel no sympathy for.

rtechie1 · 2017-12-19T20:27:07+00:00

You downplayed the most important part of this a bit.

The money.

If you do a bit of digging, Weinstein made his high-profile accusers BILLIONS of dollars.

Inmanelectric · 2017-12-20T05:27:09+00:00

Finally a man with the balls to call out this crap He nailed it Every one of these women in Hollywood Would have used their sex To get what they wanted Some more willing to go all out than others Then later it’s wrong Give me a break Only a woman could be such a hypocrite

bob13bob · 2017-12-20T08:02:04+00:00

the point of sexual harassment lawsuits is not to protect the women sleeping to get ahead, it's to protect everyone else not willing to do or can't od that. We prohibiting a trade of sex for advantage by making it costly to the advantage holder. It's important for the advantage holder to pay in business, credibility, pr etc so they'vell think twice about selling their wares.

pushes towards more meritocratic environment, which creates better businesses.

reading the 2nd post, you gotta respect her hustle. she's trying to madame by bringing a friend (prob getting a big commission too)

LittleRedditAddict · 2017-12-20T17:12:57+00:00

Anyone who didn't think Hollywood was quid pro quo from the start is trying to sell you something.

Zchavago · 2017-12-19T15:29:37+00:00

Kamala Harris has only gotten where she is by using sex as a weapon.

tryinreddit · 2017-12-19T22:09:23+00:00

Right now if you said "Hey you want to suck a creep like Weinsteins cock and let him fuck you in the ass to get a decent movie role (or even just a good chance at one)" You would still have a line of women from Los Angeles to Boston lining up to make a deal with the devil. And that is what none of these women with their stories are admitting.

You're not wrong, but you're missing something important. Some of the women, maybe many of them, would not be in your hypothetical that line. And those women were told--explicitly or implicitly--'suck my dick or I'll ruin your career'. That's fucked up.

Rooibosisboss · 2017-12-20T01:49:45+00:00

always liked ian, his friendship with patrick stewart, this just makes me like him more

binarynightmare · 2017-12-20T03:54:18+00:00

I think there are two destinct types of men that keep surfacing in these allegations. There are the ones who use their position of power to exxplicitly or implicitly de make deals with sexually aware women who know whats up (not sexual assualt). And then there are monstors like Brian Singer or Bill Cosby who systemically prey and in the most literal sense drug and rape people (definitely sexual assault).

There should be no tolerance for the later. But for the former, I think we, as a society, need to ask is the sexual dynamic really that fucked up that men have to risk their jobs and reputation for intimacy?

In my experience the only guys who dare shit where they eat are the ones who absolutely have no prospects anywhere else.

Skiffbug · 2017-12-20T05:07:08+00:00

I think you’re oversimplifying a bit.

Having read a few of the stories, there does seem to be a trend that Weinstein could make or break a woman’s career if they did what he wanted. There is a degree of covert conditionality as to whether they wanted to make it to the top or not. If it happens to sufficient people, there can be an environment of “this is what I need to do if I want to succeed” which is an issue.

Outside that, there will always be the women willing and eager to offer their bodies to get ahead, and I’m sure a number of these stories are women giving themselves an out of the shitty decision they made.

lt_dan_zsu · 2017-12-20T07:56:03+00:00

So let's say an exec takes you out to dinner. Afterward, they bring you up to their room to talk about the future of the company. When you enter his room, you're greeted with his dick out. Did you expect this was the guy's plan the whole time?

[deleted] · 2017-12-20T22:03:07+00:00

Yes, Billy, welcome to real life, where men and women are fundamentally unequal in a myriad of ways, nothing is fair, and everybody does anything they can to get an advantage. You're in for a rough ride so good luck.

arthurabyssal · 2017-12-21T18:34:01+00:00

Sir Ian Mckellan just spoke at my school and shouted that if we don't study "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" in front of hundreds of students and it was epic. Talked about gay rights. Howver he said that if people don't agree with his views he would not like to talk to them, which is wrong because he should realise that if he wants to fight homophobia he should discuss, not just refuse to talk.

waldo888 · 2017-12-21T19:07:45+00:00

This is all a symptom of public society being obtuse to the true nature of women. most men never would believe the garbage...obv these girls slept with them voluntarily...is it rape though...a little bit ya.

Ninokun · 2017-12-22T00:27:45+00:00

This Dude is Gay for a Reason.

I really wonder why so many Gays are feminists though, if i were attracted to Men i wouldnt even bother, not even waste a Single Minute on Any woman ever.

Lambdal7 · 2017-12-23T00:43:12+00:00

Metoo isn't about the women who were fine with getting fucked for a movie role. It's about women who weren't fine with getting fucked for a movie role, and Weinstein still wanted to fuck them and sometimes did even though they explicitly said no.

The_Gentleman_Thief · 2017-12-19T17:19:46+00:00

Whatever McKellen says should be taken with a grain of salt. He's part of the gay Hollywood elite which means he tries to normalize perversion i.e. Sex with underage boys.

Evidence with him and accused pedo Brian singer:

https://www.europeanknightsproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Bryan-Singer-Gary-Goddard1.jpg

Just burn all of Hollywood. It's corrupt and dirty and run by a AHEM "a small circle of certain people"

Jonlife · 2017-12-19T22:53:34+00:00

When people start to understand that this was never about "equality" or "fairness" among genders, then will we be finally able to rid the world of this mental disorder. This poison known as feminism that only cares about gaining total and absolute control over both men and women. Using women in droves and transforming men into mindless simps, drones, to do their bidding for them.

If you think women are at the forefront of this you're mistaken. They're simply the catalyst. A very evil group of men are in control of this. I wish i knew who. Could be globalists, or Marxists, or neo capitalists. Eithet way, who ever it is.... They love to watch the world burn

Bad_Mama_Jama91 · 2017-12-20T05:16:00+00:00

Can you blame them? Isnt that what the males want. Its not like women made up the rules thats all on the males. If they dont like it why do they only give these women the jobs and why do the women feel lile they have to do this to geta job?

Bad_Mama_Jama91 · 2017-12-20T05:16:00+00:00

Can you blame them? Isnt that what the males want. Its not like women made up the rules thats all on the males. If they dont like it why do they only give these women the jobs and why do the women feel lile they have to do this to geta job?

PabloAsscrowbar · 2017-12-21T03:01:33+00:00

Is it me or does this reek of the excuses that Nazi collaborators used during the Nuremberg Trials?

'I was just following orders/I was forced to do such horrible deeds because if I didn't, the SS officers would kill me and my family' even though they had no qualms killing and torturing the untermensch.

Nothing better to 'purify' yourself than to push all the blame to your partner in crime even though you did voluntarily partake in it.

young_hades · 2017-12-20T00:16:28+00:00

This articulates one side of the problem quite well. But don't ignore the other side of the coin which is that men hold the power and dominate both society and many industries due to historical social patriarchy and misogyny.

I shit on the #metoo movement for ignoring the historical social influences and utter hypocrisy of women taking advantage of the modern feminist movement and the power keg that is public relationships and brand image in the internet age for their own gain or some sort of social justice. These women will hold a press conference about sexual harassment in a pair of 4 inch heels with exposed cleavage and at the same time vilify the wrong men that react to it.

At the same time I can understand why women would go this route. They are still socially unequal to men in many areas of society, pay for example. It's the same hypocrisy that drives certain debates on race in the US.

Title	Sir Ian Mckellan on the sex scandal controversy: women sent directors nude photographs that said" DRR' — directors' rights respected. "- Offering sex in favour for roles..
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