You only need to be 20% better than the average male.

NoWayButLift · 2018-05-11T21:42:55+00:00

I agree with the message. In a world where most men would rather spend all their free time jerking off and playing Fortnite, you’re already ahead of the curve if you work out and use your time wisely. That said, you should always be striving for excellence. Hit your goal and set a higher one each time. Don’t become complacent in life no matter what because as males the competition never stops. Someone will always be better than you, realize you are a beast and nothing can stop a man who’s motivated.

wknapek · 2018-05-11T21:46:45+00:00

Solid advice, I think that the beauty of humans is that we are all pretty similar but we can change ourselves to be better as long as we have the will and the wits to do so.

Casanova-Quinn · 2018-05-11T21:57:28+00:00

This is the average male body. The average is basically a "dad bod". The bar is so low it's pathetic. Any man here should be able to do better.

MarcosDomingues · 2018-05-11T22:28:25+00:00

Wrong. Remember you are competing and being compared to the top 20%. The other 80% basically aren't even allowed to play the game, they're invisible.

[deleted] · 2018-05-11T23:14:37+00:00

I can't accept a little better than average as my creed. Good practical advise, and maybe its my inferiority complex but if I do something...i wanna be the fucking best.

Kinbaku_enthusiast · 2018-05-11T22:04:33+00:00

20% better than the average male is performing at 70%

The old adage is that women are interested in the top 20% men and will share them if they have to.

So your performance has to be 30% better than average, at about 80%.

You shouldn't try to be either the wisest or the most accurate in the room, you should try to be that which works best for you, which is different per guy.

I can be funny, but I'm rarely the funniest.

I am average looking, mostly due to lazy grooming.

I am however the most enthusiastic, happiest, motivating person and am acutely aware of subtle mood switches in people.

Get to know yourself well, learn your strengths and weaknesses. You don't have to excel at everything (though I wouldn't normally admit most of my errors and flaws as it sounds low confidence to do so).

You don't have to be best at everything but it's worth it to let your strengths shine. When I learned when to let my enthusiasm free reign and when to reign it back a bit to let other people speak.

And it helps to get a good idea of the archetypical attractive male types that women want and recontextualise/recallibrate accordingly. For example, being funny is good, but be careful that you're not an entertaining clown. Learn to do it from a position of strength. Being smart and witty is good, but be careful that you're not doing it as a nerdy knowitall, etc etc.

Dynamite_n_Gasoline · 2018-05-11T23:47:10+00:00

"I fix what is bothering me" - David Goggins (PJRE podcast)

chazthundergut · 2018-05-12T05:42:55+00:00

Being confident and friendly and giving out positive vibes will go much further than you'd think.

I say this as a man who is only 5'9'' and 280 lbs.

FeelTheBernieSanderz · 2018-05-11T23:01:26+00:00

What I'd say to this, becoming above average enter you in a positive feedback loop whereby your potential to grow becomes exponential.

Entropy-7 · 2018-05-11T22:12:54+00:00

I like the message but being in the top 20% will get you all the average chicks with less effort , if you want to be swarmed by 8s &9s then the bar is much higher than top 20 , think Top 5% or even less

Johndoesmith67 · 2018-05-11T23:49:45+00:00

Being in the top 20% is very subjective. Being in the top 20% at a bar in Tulsa is simple. Being in the top 20% at a club in San Diego full of Navy Seals and Professional athletes is a different story. I don't believe in associating with average or below average if possible. I would rather hang around the top tier striving forward.

Iwannachokekatie · 2018-05-11T21:53:30+00:00

It's really strange....yesterday I was in the courtyard, grilling up a ribeye.....some dude came in the gate, went into the clubhouse...I'm pretty friendly with a quick smile, but the dude didn't look at me, not once. I guess I'm that guy now. Lift like your life depends on it.

xlithernigga · 2018-05-12T03:16:09+00:00

This sub isn't about being slightly above average it's about being the best.

Wolfoflulzstreet · 2018-05-12T04:41:13+00:00

Hell, you only need to appear to be 20% better. Women are already write their own story about you the moment they see you.

RPmatrix · 2018-05-12T18:06:59+00:00

the guy who can relax and just 'be themselves' is an easy person to talk to and be with ... he's way ahead of any guy who's in any way 'self conscious' and most likely quite awkward as a result.

Girls are often happy to talk with such guys. Having girls 'happy to talk with you' = 'pre-selection' for other women to take notice of ... which is what you want when on the prowl, the more female validation you can get the better.

That's why wingwomen can be so effective. I had a WW who could get me talking with any female in the club! She was naturally fabulous at the job! It was almost too easy with her on hand, lol. I'd also set her up with any guys she was interested in, but she was bisexual so sometimes we were 'competing' with each other for some HB

NGAF is an essential M.O when in public. After all, you don't know what other people are thinking so why think that they're thinking about you?

Worrying about OPO (Other People's Opinions) is a major waste of energy and only negatively affects your ability to "be in the moment" ... and you can't be a 'witty and amusing guy' when your mind is 'elsewhere'

Great Game requires you being 'on fire and in the moment' with your attention 100% focused on the job at hand. Any half decent game needs you to be on the ball for the best results

Teach yourself to 'not care' ... keep reminding yourself 'why it doesn't matter' and eventually it will 'sink in' and you'll find yourself NGAF without thinking about it and having the best time becoz of it.

After all, you can't enjoy the moment if you're thinking of other things

Field test: The next time you're out with friends, when you remember this, ask yourself about those who are not in your group; "how much attention am I paying to any of the other people in this place?"

I think you'll be surprised at the answer, which is likely the same as the guy on the other side of the room's would be if asked! You're paying them no mind whatsoever, except when that guy dropped the tray of glasses, but that's it!

TL:DR: Nobody really GAF about you or what you're doing, so why should you? If you do, learn how not to GAF, it just takes practice, like most things but it's very achievable

good post OP, worth remembering

mheyk · 2018-05-12T06:01:58+00:00

Truthfully the only thing I worry about walking into a bar is there bar seating and does the selection suck

thisishowiwrite · 2018-05-12T09:22:11+00:00

The average male is mousy, self conscious, slow paced, and doesn't work out at all.

This is a reflection on you, OP. You're moving in the wrong crowds. I don't want to be 20% better than shitkickers.

spoonhatt · 2018-05-11T23:47:27+00:00

Okay you keep working at 80% I'll stick to my 100%. Good base idea but why not strive to be the best?

anotherent · 2018-05-12T01:52:43+00:00

#METOO doesn't apply to you if you're in the top 20%

Okthisopisnotsmarttt · 2018-05-12T03:08:23+00:00

I can say with 100% confidence you are not better than anyone, anywhere you go. The only people who brag and thunp their own backa like this are losers who wont make eye contact and pretend to be awesome on reddit. Sorry.

buttgoogler · 2018-05-12T00:08:04+00:00

Holy fuck. The quote about your sword, shield and spear is golden.

Ddanndt · 2018-05-12T04:55:15+00:00

who cares about these things Just be yourself don't think too much what anyone thinks about you,sometimes even if you haven't done anything wrong people gonna judge you and worst thing is sometime your own family will judge you so fuck it do whatever you want and enjoy your life

ApexmanRP · 2018-05-12T10:51:11+00:00

OP, I get your message, however, this should only be a stepping stone towards the top 20%.

If you can rate yourself (objectively) 20% higher than the average male, then great, but don't stop.

The time to stop, where diminishing returns will kick in, is when you hit the top 20%. Then its a matter of fine tuning to suit what you want from life.

Alexinfinite01 · 2018-05-13T18:05:22+00:00

These pep talks really help I find. Being a recovering blue piller is like being a recovering alcoholic. It's a life long battle but worth fighting

BurnoutRS · 2018-05-11T22:58:34+00:00

I wanna reword this message. You should strive for the best, but you should also understand that progress takes time and you have to be alive to have any chance to progress further. The last part being the most important. If you dedicate so much time to liftng that you miss assignments in class or fall behind on the job...

I've had friends who held themselves to the highest standards, never gave themselves a break and they all were ridiculously high strung, stressed out, professed to "definitely have a mental illness" despite the only evidence they had to support that claim being that a doctor gave them an SSRI to try out. They were great people, theyve had successes but they never just let themselves be.

Work hard, play hard. Ever find yourself unable to engage fully in recreational activities after prolonged sessions? say you binge a series, playthrough a whole game. if youre anything like me, you get to this point where youre not immersed in what youre doing anymore because on some level you know how superfluous it is to your life goals. The opposite can also be true, where you give yourself no room to breath and push yourself until youre nothing but stress.

Finally, you should try scheduling some leisure time at the end of an intense day of working. get up, go to work, go to the gym and then go to a bar, go to a club any venue. Notice how you being spent from working puts you in the mindset where you couldnt give a fuck less about anyone elses bullshit, you just wanna enjoy yourself. Ive passed shit tests inadvertently by just being too tired to give a shit about whats being said to me

AJ_BeautifulChaos · 2018-05-12T09:33:24+00:00

Not sure if that's sound advice though. I understand the reasoning but since almost everyone is average hence the term they would need to give the maximum to get into the 20% above.
It's safe to assume from the outset not be the champ and give it the best shot so to reach up to this 20% region you name.
Starting out with the mindset "well let's not over-invest here" might not be enough. Same applies to workout and guys with average genetics.

As-You-Were · 2018-05-12T18:23:00+00:00

I feel like that first paragraph could be used in a Scorsese film. Excellently put.

Flannellord · 2018-05-12T20:29:31+00:00

Are there any books or videos anyone can recommend that talks more about this?

[deleted] · 2018-05-12T20:36:44+00:00

Your investment should only be "enough", not the maximum.

Be all the mediocre that you can be? No thanks.

Zech4riah · 2018-05-14T10:11:01+00:00

When I walk to a bar or club my first thought is that what is the men/woman ratio and where is the hottest girl which I will approach. When I feel confident and good about myself (most of the time), it even doesn't come to mind to compare myself to others or to judge other people.

The fact that you actually consciously think (or maybe more like tell yourself?) you are better than others tell me that you are still work on progress although in a good way and towards right direction.

And yes, for average red pilled guy 20% better will be enough. For the ones wanting more, it's is just a waypoint.

BENDERisGRREAT · 2018-05-14T16:49:11+00:00

Looking at everything around the room you walk in is part of being a man. Only women and children don't pay attention to their surroundings.

Hang out with some older guys, they survey a room they walk into and NEVER sit with their back to the door

FatmanO · 2018-05-22T17:09:28+00:00

?? how you know your the best looking guy in the room . as ssoon u see a 6´4 guy with godlike frame and 8/10 face u just leav the bar then?

naIamgood · 2018-05-12T00:13:44+00:00

people here think that they will workout, develop game and make all the jumps and voila! they will be the top 5% of the males. Some people need to accept that you may never be in the top 20% let alone top 5%. You must be content with that. That is not to discourage improvement but spending too much effort can sometimes be akin to polishing the turd.

frhnwunderkid · 2018-05-12T01:00:12+00:00

To hell with your mediocrity. Your mindset needs to be focused on making yourself as productive as humanly possible to become greatness. Especially if you're young.

Read books Lift weights Eat with a goal Go out Flirt a lot Get rejected Learn from mistakes Acquire currency

There's no right way to do this, but I'm sure as hell that being slightly above average just won't cut it.

Jfc_Manners · 2018-05-13T01:40:53+00:00

Poisoning the well, I see. Interesting to see that more and more TRPers and using powertalk against the broader male self-improvement community to trick them into getting lazy.

Bro, there are not diminishing returns to working on yourself. There are accelerating returns to working on yourself. You don't "need" to do anything, but man, you can do a lot...if you stop worrying about conserving effort and energy, and start thinking about doing as much as you can.

Jetirk · 2018-05-12T02:49:59+00:00

Only sheeple try to be alphas, "alphas" being some culturally defined image of a guy who whores out his soul so he can be recognized by everyone as the #1 pussy slayer.

The enlightened realize that pussy doesn't matter and takes way too much time and effort to chase. Literally just follow your own path of success. The only thing a pussy is good for is having children.

PoppinChlorine · 2018-05-12T00:36:53+00:00

Okay, I’m pretty new to this sub, and I don’t have a very good picture of who the members here are.

I’m about to graduate high school, and I’m going to college next year. Are a lot of you guys in college? Do you have careers? Are you working lame jobs? Are you 30s? 40s? 50s?

A lot of you guys seem pretty smart. I’m fuckin brilliant. Does being smart help you get girls post-college (especially if being smart got you a dope high powered job instead of a shitty “The Office” sales job- praised on here for reasons that line up with a good HOBBY- or for other reasons)? Or are you guys merely muscular dudes who don’t have much of a career or a brain?

I’m asking this now because when you say “20% better than the average male” that implies that you’re in the top 30% of males. Does that really describe a lot of the members here? Or do most of you merely talk a big game?

I’m seriously asking- I’m really interested in this sub and I’m loving the sidebar lit but some context on the types of people you guys are would really help. Thanks.

Also if anyone has any advice for a young beginner that would be appreciated. Thanks again.

Title	You only need to be 20% better than the average male.
Author	Kryptic_Knight
Upvotes	940
Comments	219
Date	11 May 2018 08:54 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/50192
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/8ir5g3/you_only_need_to_be_20_better_than_the_average/

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