Nothing new here. Female hypergamy and the dual-mating strategy at its finest. I post this because it is good for both short-term and long-term TRPers to see these examples from non-TRP subs. These are just your average, good BP men doing what society tells them to do. In this case, marrying a single mother and taking care of her through better or for worse. Of course the latter does not apply to the females.
http://archive.is/Yue4I
Let's dissect:
"Bit of background. My wife was going on a night out with one of her girl friends. Her friend picked her up and they went into town.
- Well, two sentences in and we read the classic ***"Girls night out"***, we already know how this one is going to end.
"It gets to 1 am, i send her a text saying dont be too late due to the door being open. No response. 2.30am still not home. At this point I start calling but there is no answer. Fast forward to 8am, 70ish calls later and still no sign of her. I was very worried at this point.-
70 calls later...oh boy. If she didn't answer on the 25th, surely she will on the 70th.
"So then this morning she finally texts me to say she is at her friends. I then check the laptop again and see an exchange of messages between her and said friend (I can't see what wife is saying, just friends responses).The friend was asking if she was home yet, and when she would go home. She then asked wife "What is your story? I will make sure I stick to it". They then plan the story about why she had to take a taxi home, and friend was saying "don't worry for all he knows you Are here asleep in my spare room".
- The female hive mind (group hamstering) knows no bounds. "Ladies Night Out" is codespeak for "Lets have a competition to see who fucks the hottest guy tonight". It really is a competition to them...which leads to the best part...
After a few further messages the best message of the lot was sent. So, how big was his dick then?" I photographed all the messages.
- We all saw that one coming...
"Later when wife returns home at first I play it cool like i dont know what went on. She is walking around the house acting perfect, like nothing was wrong.
-"Walking around the house acting perfect". Of course, she just got railed by Chad in all 3 holes while her dutiful beta stayed at home, worried about her all night. Life is great...for her.
When I showed her the last message she eventually admitted she was at this guy's house, slept in his bed but nothing happened
- Right...she only tried this fast one because her beta husband has ALWAYS trusted his unicorn NAWALT. Don't do that.
12 hours later, i am now not speaking with her or responding to messages. She started saying she did nothing wrong and that I was the one throwing it all away. Apparently me leaving was proof I never loved her."
-Once again, we know how this will all end. He was the cheater, the abuser, the neglecter, and all her friends in the hive, big daddy government, thirsty simps and white knights on social media will back her up.
Now we are at the borderline emotional blackmail stage. Claiming she is heartbroken along with her son (Not mine, he is from a previous relationship). I feel she is trying to make me feel bad about leaving, like I should go running back to her.
- Ahh, our sweet NAWALT is heart-broken because she took Chad's cock and Billy Beta is walking out the door. Note here how she uses her son as a leveraging device. Welcome to Western Society.
She wants to talk like adults and sort things out. In all honesty I don't even think this is the first time she has done this now I know she is capable of it.
-Welcome our newest member of The Red Pill.
- Don't marry a single mother, ever.
- There is no NAWALT, no Unicorn. Hypergamy is a built-in evolutionary trait in women, and now it is exploited openly and happily in our feminized western culture. Understand the rules of the game, keep your value as a man high. Always have options and walk when necessary.
- Be nice and caring to her, and her instincts will push her to disgust towards you. She will not respect or love you, and will hamster away her reasons for cheating on you ("he didn't treat me right", "he didn't make me happy", "he worked too much and neglected me"). Instead, in a good relationship, be her leader and her emotional rock (see bullet number one, first).
- Women's night out = code word for fucking Chad (or Chads).
- Beta Bux = No respect. Giving her commitment gives her power. With power comes no ability to dread, lead, or walk away. Don't be that man.
single moms are plates at best. i will never take care of another mans child
A friend married a single mum. Watching him spend his own time and money to raise someone else's kid is tragic. The only silver lining is he has given that kid a really strong father figure it would otherwise not have.
True. My stepdad was pretty great.
Maybe so, but your mother wasn't worth marrying. No single mother is.
You're right. She should have stayed with my alcoholic abusive Dad. She a real piece of crap.
Your mother divorcing your father has nothing to do with her being worth marrying.
She should have not married and reproduced with him then. It boggles my mind how dumb cunts have kids and then get divorced 1-2 years later, like they couldn't already tell they should get divorced before bringing a life into such a shitty situation.
Your father was not always an alcoholic and your mother thought enough about him at some stage to make children. What changed?
And your mother probably pushed him down the path of alcoholism and being abusive...
mostly depends on the person that the mother has become, i've seen some good single mothers that learn from there mistakes and some that remain the same slut that they've been since highschool
While your’e wasting your life and money away with the dumb chick that chose a loser to procreate with, the sperm donor dad is usually out there banging more women and making more uncared for kids. Spend your resources on your own kids or on making yourself a better man.
I know a guy that raised a kid as his own and when the kid grew up they never really talked again. And to make things even worse the kid ended up reconnecting with his biological, he (the biological)acted like nothing was wrong with walking out.
After the Beta stayed in it for over 20 years. He finally got it and left the lady. Ouch 20 years gone and wasted!!!
I dont understand this sub.
How is it tragic if it was good for the kid and the guy was happy to do it?
Do y'all find the concept of adoption ridiculous as well?
Because the kid's own father does everything to avoid the responsibility of fatherhood and makes another man sacrifice to raise the child.
If that's not a tragedy then I don't know what is.
Yes, his behaviour is tragic, not the behaviour of the guy who steps in to raise the child.
It's an RP and MGTOW thing. Don't ever adopt or spend money on another man's child. That's his job. In doing so you usually have to agree to marriage which is just another legal way for you to be financially raped.
It's not that you can't love the child while you're dating the mom if that's what you want to do. You just have to make sure that they don't live with you and that you never marry the mom. Otherwise, society says that they both become your responsibility during a divorce proceeding.
Men, nowadays, have to take into consideration most of the likely outcomes of marriages because normally they are saddled with most of the responsibilities, financially. Some agreements are so biases and unfair that men are now 10x more likely to commit suicide after a divorce. Since more than 50% of marriages end in divorce, and since there's a 70 % chance men won't even see it coming because it's women that file for divorce, marriage ends up being an absolutely raw deal. And men have less than a coin flip chance of things going ok, so it's better that they don't get themselves into that situation in the first place.
Adoption is fine if a couple can't conceive, but it's a terrible idea for men marrying single moms. The man, oftentimes, is never really part of the family, even in his own house.
Totally not worth it.
My take on these situations is that the context in which it happens is important. Most of the situations I know personally are extremely beta men trying to play hero for a woman that would have never chosen them in their prime. It's generally a sad position to be in where desperate men think they finally have an actual shot when they're just the runner up. No man who respects himself will be happy or satisfied with that position in a woman's mind. That being said, it's a good thing for children to have father figures. Just don't be surprised when you get the "you're not my real dad" treatment.
This sub is full of larping faggots. Take everything here with a grain of salt cause
"The rest is history"
The need for adoption is tragic and many of the general aspects of it are as well (including such things as one can never truly love a step child as much as their own no matter how hard they deny this fact, and vise versa for the most part which is why despite being raised by another man lots of step kids still try to connect with their real dad)
But it's a noble notion in some ways and a necessary evil but it's born of tragedy and remains there most of the time
Adoption is different. You step in to become the parent, the child is now wholly dependent on you.
Marrying a single mom is another thing. The child grows up knowing you are merely another guy who ended up with his mother and that he has a real father out there. You will raise and spend for that child but he will always think of you as an outsider, that you are merely intruding into his and his mother's lives.
Maybe you are right- the child will always see you as an outsider to some degree- that doesn't mean 'you should never marry single mothers'.
What is a single mother to do, in your opinion, if she wants a father figure for her child?
Lie in the bed she made and cry on the shoulder of cucks like you.
She should go and find a meal ticket, is what you are saying.
Yeah im not to sure why the reaction, the resentment towards girls is real (its a bitter pill to swallow I guess).
It's because of straight up misogyny, I'm convinced. A lot of people here seem to think single mums deserves to suffer.
I have no problem with adoption. In fact, I was adopted. However, this idea that men in society should "step up" and raise Chadspawn because women can't make good decisions (or, actually blatantly make that decision knowing there are plenty of betas who will pay for her promiscuous lifestyle) is absurd and should be laughed at and shamed.
So what if your not helping to raise the child financially, like she has her own job her own place is planning on buying her own house in the near future, is towards a solid career progression and is really only looking for companionship? Whether this truly exist I do not know but what then?
What makes you think there is a conventionally held idea? I've never heard it before.
So every single mother is a single mother only because of her bad decisions?
Maybe not in so many words but you probably have. "Man up" is a popular one, any time you hear a single mother complain about not finding a man it's the same thing. Any time you hear anything about single mothers and its prevalence what do you think the implied solution is? To get rid of them or the kids? Surely not.
Whether you want to say it's wholly her fault or her and the guy the end result for a third party is the same. You are taking on the consequences of the mistake.
Anyone that read manosphere recommended book Pimp has read the part about how the writer, the eponymous Iceberg Slim, truly loved his first step dad, that he doesn't think his life would have gone how it did if his mother stayed with him and how he was mad at her for leaving him.
"Manning up" and marrying single mothers is a trap. Giving a fatherless boy a strong father figure is in fact noble but it's a heavy cost and a shame their mothers tend to be such trash people.
Best friend of mine did this. Single mom was a trainwreck less than a year after they got married, they divorced after 15 months. According to him it was like a light switch flipped once they were married, she went complete BPD psycho. (I lost contact with him during most of his marriage we weren't as close then) She was so bad that her 16 yr old son who this guy had known for about 8 years at that point decided to stay with him instead of his mom. Fortunately my friend is tied for 1st place in being the most conscientious and industrious guy I know and was able to keep her son from turning into his mom. Kids a marine now and my buddy is banging a 24 year old and the guys 33.
Not all good though cause they're getting married this October. Some guys won't learn but hopefully hes learned enough not to leave himself open like he did before.
Man i went down that road once.... Barely made it out
I don't know how one can even possibly think of going down that road. As a man who grew up in a Eastern culture it boggles my mind.
As a society the west has been bluepilled gradually due to single mothers. Can't blame these men until they are shown the truth.
It started off casual/dating at first about 10 years ago. She slowly started developing me into a father/husband type over two years. Moved into together, family vacations, engaged. My smv was low at the time, hadn't even considered the idea of trp much less taken it. So I thought it was legit (it helped that she was a blonde smokeshow) and just kept going through the motions.
I was failing shit tests miserably, I didn't even know what they were at the time. Just chalked it up to that being normal relationship stuff. I was paying for everything, whatever made her happy.... Total fucking beta. Never got cucked that I know of, but she loved attention. It wouldn't suprise me if she was getting side dick.
As my smv increased (career advancement) I started to realize I could do way better and not deal with the issues that come with step-dadding. Just up and bounced one day, basically just ghosted her. Went into total gym rat hermit mode, life changer...... Best move I ever made.
I naturally "took" trp, albeit without every single nuance. I didnt stumble across this reddit until years later.
But how could you pull that off if you already moved in with her. Moving out would be a giant pain in the ass. It's not like you could just disappear. You still needed to get all of your shit out of her house.
We were in a rental house, she was staying at her parents house over the weekend while I was working. Text her I was done. Iirc we had been back forth arguing.
Same here, about five years ago post divorce (well post post-divorce dating) and after several months I realized I liked that life much better and have been a non 'mgtow' since. Not saying one path or the other is better. Just my experience. What you and I have in common was the journey, not the destination. I could not believe how much I learned about myself/changed (mentally and physically) as I spent time focused on me and personal growth rather than trying to navigate the emotional waves of a relationship with a woman.
Yeah agree. I'm too greedy to effing spend my resources on anything else but my own offspring / genes. This is just such an ingrained feeling I bet it's just another of natures tricks. Same as with cheating. It's simply not acceptable I can never understand how you would put up with it.
That is why the bluepill is so disturbing, how these guys can override and ignore all these basic instincts.
Plus single-moms are single for a reason. They already showed they are impulsive and fuck Chad without protection.
And allot of men are raising children that aren't theirs. When I did the research on it, they didn't have a solid number, but it was probably 1 in every 6.
Its kinda disturbing, as you hold frame, how differently women treat you. You begin to see their really is very little loyalty.
This is false about 1/6, if you google you'll find researches and 1/10 is highest rate of "child scam" which is actual for third world countries and in more developed countries it is 1/20 or less. But it just means what here women are more intelligent and use contraception. Though most of those researches are old and know things could be different and with feminazism it is unlikely we will see real numbers in near future.
Maybe he meant men raising step-kids? With the divorce rate as high as it is its not unfathomable. Though yeah the wording is ambiguous.
And I got downvoted for saying dread ain't enough and you should be cheating on your wife at the least. 1/6 women have shown they are willing to rape a man. That's the equivalent of a man physically raping a woman
Women have evolved to fall in 'love' with the conquering rapist who just killed their husband, expecting male morality from them is silly.
Women openly cheat and gloat about it,cuck husband's drive some men to suicide,then when I say to cheat,I get told its it's shitty behaviour....yeh coz fucking another woman is as bad to the standard shit women pull off on this sub
There seems to be a reason that having mistresses in the past was encouraged. I think that when women see their man with other women, that'll always tell them that their guy is the prize. Just staying confined to one woman and merely threatening them with cheating isn't enough. I guess they need to see actual fornication.
It's the low road to occasional vanilla pity sex with an average woman. Actually making yourself into the kind of guy who doesn't need to give up so much in order to get laid on the regular is the long, painful high road.
Exactly mate. Even before reading redpill, I thought for myself that I would never forgive my wife if it turned out my child wasn't mine, and would never raise another man's child. I just felt disgust. Same reason why I never liked women other than European, as I want my children to look like me (which every intelligent person does).
It is easy to not give a fuck about cheating if you just plate girl and use her for sex only. Though in this case it wouldn't be actual cheating. Is there a reason to stop fucking hot girl just because she isn't exclusive? If she is always ready to suck your cock and don't waste your free time and resources then she could do whatever she wants.
Diseases. Plus, the almost inevitable probability of babies rabies and her attempting to lock a man down by any means necessary, and if you are good enough for her to fuck on a semi regular basis, you WILL be one of the candidates for an "oops! pregnant!" attempt, whether it is actually yours or not.
Basically, being non-exclusive does not mean you get to relax. Vigilance is the cheap price for getting your dick wet.
There is no serious diseases if you use condoms (fact), let alone babies (condom + withdrawal= zero probability, or you could use temporary vasectomy which should be simple for most residents of western countries). You talking about some blue pill bs. One of the objective of TRP is to help men to fuck a lot of women and having as much sex as we want. But I personally think there is nothing wrong with slut-girls as well - no one force you to marry one of them.
Yerp, telling people they need to watch their ass and practice risk management because hos be scandalous sure is bluepill.
Lay off the crack pipe, gronk. You mentioned nothing about contraception in your original comment. Plus they still do not relieve you of the need for vigilance, as they can be tampered with, or their post coital contents used in ways you may object to if you do not practice vigilance in their disposal.
A) False (though fairly low probability).
B) The problem is not when everything goes according to plan. If she has been screwing around with unknowns at the same time she is screwing you, the chance of her picking up something lethal is non-zero. The only method of reducing your risk in this to zero is to not fuck her. Everything else is just probability management.
I once slid out from under a single mom Grinch-style upon her revelation that she had a kid.
Patrice O'Neil put it well:
When he talks about his ltr cracking the shits about an old plates boots in his house “bitch you got another mans cum that walks around the house every day and you angry about some boots!?!?”
Never mind looking 24/7 at physical proof of your sweet little angel spreading her legs for another cock, but you also get the parting gift of spending around a quarter of a million dollars to raise the demon spawn from cradle to 18. Then, if your Daddy Betabucks, you get to pay for college as well.
Just the thought of that makes me cringe to the bone.
I don't think it's the child I'm bothered about.its the motive of the female. As usual.
Idk man. What about this:
I'm kind of seeing a girl who's a single mom. She's hot as fuck. Her daughter is cool I guess (I'm a dad, kids like me) and her baby daddy died in a car crash while she was pregnant.
By the way she acts and knowing how busy she is I can tell she's not seeing anyone else. What do y'all think about this girl?
Riiiiiiiiiight. Hahahahahahaha. And I'm the King of England.
Lmao on god bruh I knew about him in high school.
The ultimate red pill revenge... get a vasectomy. Then you will never be owned by her.
It's not enough. If you marry and move in with a single mother and spend a few years caring for her fuck trophy, you can end up making payments.
Negative. Have your fun romp with her and then run for the hills. When she says your the baby daddy you just nope out of there with your vac card under your arm.
I know vasectomy game. I've shot blanks my whole life.
It's also besides the point. My warning is if a man cucks himself by marrying a single mother and caring for the child, he can end up paying child support.
Single mothers are fine for pump 'n dumps. Single mothers are also fine for MLTR's. Just don't let the State get involved.
Yes, yes, good goy, sterilize yourself so that Ahmed/Paco and his 14 kids can take your place.
Someone gotta start. And my middle name is paco, but don’t got no 14 kids. Live the red pill and don’t have kids and retire early. Just sayin.
Lmao that's hilarious cuz my middle name is akhmedddddd
Not this "call of the race" bullshit. TRP isn't race specific. It's true for black men, oriental men, hispanic men, middle eastern men, european men, all men.
Think again.
In Quebec all it takes is for society to identify you as a woman's partner and you'll be stuck holding her shopping bill.
Dont' hotlink any sub, including ours. Use archive.is. Just redo the comment; it is easier than waiting for me to approve a fix.
How to do that? I'm on my phone and it is difficult as it is to effect any sort of formatting.
My intention wasn't malicious. The info in that link is damn important.
Run the link through archive.is.
Well I’m glad my dad didn’t share the same opinion. He raised me since birth, as his own, and never ever complained about it.
No one ever complains about it out loud.
But your "dad" is your moms beta. Your father dropped his load, spread his seed, and laughed as another man paid for everything.
I'm glad it worked out well, but, you are an anomaly.
Just fuck and dump, I dated a single mom in my twenties, never again!
A society of single mom's and cucked dads is a society that has neither personal responsibility nor self respect (both of which are masculine qualities).
That's not the point. The point is that they made light of the ltr part of their relationship, so much so that they deprived their kid of a father. That is why they are not ltr material.
Question: if you were in an LTR, how should one respond if she said she wants to go on a "Girls night out"?
Problem in this particular scenario is he likely had little to no bargaining power to begin with. She obviously did not respect him and saw him as a beta bux provider, only, for her and her child. Nothing more. Monthly starfish sex to keep him hooked. You can't dread in that situation. You can't bargain. If this was her alpha lover that she wanted commitment from, that man has all sorts of options available to him. The beta males do not. Marriage 1.0 before social media, no fault divorce, within a society that openly slut-shamed, and one which valued the family structure kept these female hypergamic instincts at bay. However, with divorce and alimony always an option, women are free to do whatever they want. In fact, it is openly celebrated by modern feminism and modern culture.
In other words, don't get married, and be as high value as you can be. Keep commitment low so they always have to work for you. Most men fail at this stage...including me at times. We have all been there. And even then...it may not be enough. Always be ready to bounce from a relationship with your dignity intact. In other words, have options and don't emotionally over-invest, aka ONEITUS. That is where TRP shines...in teaching men that women want an emotional rock, not an emotional doormat. It is pure evolutionary instinct.
I'd assume (though I'm not as experienced as many here) that you'd say something along the lines of "ok, Have fun" and if you aren't comfortable with it or she doesn't come back that night then NEXT
Firstly, you generally want to be upfront that "Girls nights" out are BS in a LTR, especially if it happens often. And Secondly if it does happen occasionally, don't be sitting home like a 50's housewife waiting for your unicorn to come home. She's having girls night, great, im having boys night with all my single Pussy hungry friends. Don't call, no contact, come in late, she'll re-consider the dynamic when it works both ways.(If she doesn't, you should be reconsidering her as a LTR)
You're right on.
By placing a restriction on your wife/gf, you manifest emotions such as jealousy or possessiveness which can easily translate to neediness and cause the very situation that you're trying to prevent.
Best to just convey that you don't care, say "Alright, see ya later" but always keep with the understanding that she's never yours, it's just your turn.
You cannot stop them from doing what they are going to do, and trying to prevent it will just bring it about regardless.
Although MarriedTRP may have some specific thoughts on that.
According to... who? If you don't want your wife/gf going clubbing without you, tell her she can't go clubbing without you. Maybe you guys are monks, but most women won't not go just because you said you're uncomfortable with it. That shit just makes you look like a little bitch.
Seriously. If you don't want her clubbing say "No" and if she goes anyway then drop her.
Saying "ok have fun" to play it fool while you're fucking fuming inside and thinking she's sucking some Chad off in the bathroom makes you look actually weak.
My girl goes to the club if/when I say so WITH me.
I know of too many "club secrets" that get spilled when girlfriends get drunk and start snitching on each other.
Couldn't agree more. If I ever have a serious relationship, the girl is going to live like a nun. A lady that keeps me as a booty call told me that she's married with a kid. I met her at a club while she was out with her girlfriends. Her friend just looked me over from behind the wheel of her Cadillac outside the club and told the bootycall lady that it was cool if she left with me and I don't seem dangerous. The lady's purse kept vibrating all night on my bedside table and when I asked her about it she told me not to worry.
Exactly right. This subs resistance to the idea of enacting ground rules in an LTR and especially a marriage is a bit baffling to me. Tell her what is and is not acceptable before hand and if she breaks the rules then you next.
Easiest way to not let them do something you don't like is to next them. Just my opinion.
You don’t want your single mother girlfriend clubbing and cucking you? Simple, tell her you’re leaving too, good luck getting a last minute babysitter.
I had to hard NO my ex pne time. Even as a young beta, I wasn't about to approve to being cucked openly.
Ashe started talking to the friend of an ex (who I'm sure professed all sorts of feelings to her) wanted her to come to his hotel room and drink. The second I heard her asl me for approval, I said fuck no, you know what's gonna happen.
She was pissed for a day or two, but I wasn't about to tell her she could go fuck this guy. Eventually she came down from her insanity and stopped hamstering.
She also made out with some fucking skeeze the first night out alone after turning 21. Instead of answering my calls, she was on the phone with this fuckin guy and her friend. Finally ended it after that. Best decision of my life.
Write in full words We don’t understand
i ndrstd vrtng of dt, wts r prblm?
Aai ones lee ding unter ssand eh gerd aam verd hue zd hue fook keng hass ool.
Sounds German
Is that Afrikaans?
So you would let your wife/GF go out to the club and fuck Chad just so you wouldn't appear jealous? That's some pussy beta shit, bro; man the fuck up!
Jealousy isn't a masculine emotion, by the way. It's characterized by the feminine.
If you're running the frame like the true head of the household, she's going to know that it'll all be over if she cheats. If she does so anyway in spite of that, you can't stop her.
TRP emphasizes hitting the "NEXT" button when necessary, and jealousy just translates to over-commitment which will turn a woman off.
It's not about jealousy; it's about letting them know that if they act a certain way or do certain things (like girls' night out) then you are DONE with them. That's why I would say "You can go to girls' night but you can't return here." You can call that jealousy if you want but I call laying down the law and not taking any shit.
God disagrees with you, i.e. you're wrong.
34 For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.
Proverbs 6 King James Bible
I would break the LTR. It is failed experiment.
Ladies night should be dinner at a sit down restaurant home by 10 or a gathering of woman at one their houses.
Going to bars and clubs is always an intention to scan the field by women and redetermine their position in the sexual market place.
If she's gonna cheat there's always a way, chicks are being hit on 24/7.
Also, what would mean she would expect the same.
And if it is at a gathering at a friend's house set a time and pick her up. That way you manage when the night ends and you dont have to worry about them 'drinking too much and having to stay over'
Oh please. And would you expect the same if your guy friends wanted you to join on bar hopping?
Tho I will say this - it shouldn't be a regular occurrence AT ALL. Either she wants you to come with (and vice versa) or she shouldn't be going out (exception for certain events) regularly.
Men are more likely to be loyal, women are not. You can reasonably expect a committed man to go and hang out with his buddies and not grab a fuck with a stranger before he comes home to wifey. You can not expect the same from women. That's why you end it and move on when they start going on "girl's nights out".
In divorce maybe, but men are just as likely to cheat as women
Only high value men. Throughout history high value men have had multiple mistresses. Low value men don't cheat for lack of opportunity.
Men are not as capable of cheating since it requires much more deliberate action from a man to get the pussy. The woman is passive and chooses from the men who pursue who, her only job is to spend time in the mirror making herself look as fuckable as possible, which they always do when going on girls night out.
What? Woman are going to want to go out, get drunk and have fun. You should be confident that you provide more value to her than any dick she can find at the club. If you can't do that then you're not ready for an LTR.
Placing restrictions on her and leaving her just because she wants to have a night out will just show how fragile you are and how afraid of losing her you are.
The only way to prevent something like this is to never be in an LTR.
as others have already said she's never yours, it's just your turn.
it's a good mindset to have for many things in life: job, any material possessions, etc. Live and enjoy it while you got it
Girls' nights out and girls' weekends are nothing more or less than your LTR looking for other dick. With that in mind, make it clear that you don't mind her doing so, but make it equally clear that you yourself will be out looking for pussy on the same night and during the same weekend. If necessary, even provide details of where you think the best hunting grounds for pussy are, and let her overhear you organizing said pussy hunt with your friends.
Yes, but, doesn't this show butthurt to the woman? "You're going out for new dick?? Well, I'll show you! I'm going out, too! And, I'm gonna get a LOT of pussy! Nyah!"
haha you're straight up savage dude but this is whats required to show her that you have options too.
This is a point where I personally disagree with what wise ones recommend. I don't remember who, but some EC made a point that he would play it cool to not appear hurt and even would not go out with the boys as a counter.
I firmly believe that you should NEXT in that situation, because after this it only gets worse, not better.
You do one better. agree and amplify: offer her a non-butthurt cocky-funny Girls' Life Out.
I understand the concept of A&A but I don't understand what you meant by that second part.
Tell her go and don't come back. But not in an angry way. Then sit back and let her hamster hamst.
Oh I see. That's a good one. Thanks.
He made a pun, pretty funny actually
If she has single friends, she does, than girls night out is unavoidable. In my LTR, I keep an eye on the frequency (around twice a month is acceptable). Also, I at the end of the night I will almost always meet her at the last bar they are at. It's actually really fun to walk up and smack her ass on the way to the bar in front of whomever guys are talking to her, etc. Good way to AMOG guys and display your value. Usually great sex on girls nights. Obviously you have to have pretty high value for this to work in your favor.
I don't let them have nights out. If she wants to hangout with her friends, she could invite them (only female) to the minibar in the house. In case she wants to get crazy drunk, she could do the same. But while her friends leave, so will her gf status. Redpilled? Idk, but this kind of incident never happened after the last time with ex.
https://therationalmale.com/2012/08/27/girls-night-out/comment-page-2/
"If you want to go do that then don't come back."
You celebrate with the boys haha
If you are in an LTR you should be able to let your partner go out with friends and not be afraid she is going to fuck someone else. If you are afraid of it, you fucked up somewhere along the way, and nothing you say in that moment will fix it.
Honestly if youre in a LTR ... she wont want to be hanging out with other people out of admiration for you, wanting to spend as much time as possible with you, or out of fear of losing you.
Let her go, but make sure she knows that she can't come back as she's now single.
You never had a girlfriend, right?
incels who cant read between lines strikes again......
You won't become alpha just because you tell everyone you are, bro
Try to tone down her going out as much as possible. Like you both agree on the frequency of how much she goes out, lets say once every 2 weeks. And you text through the night to check on her and she should text back with no excuse to stop her from doing so. The next day you guys discuss in complete transparency about other guys who hit on her. Basicly both of you need to reach an agreement where you're comfortable and she's happy. That how the relationship coach i was taking a course with does it
Well I fucked a girl once while she texted her boyfriend, so I don't think that would work...
When a naked girl is lying in your bed lieing to her bf on the phone about where she is you truly see hypergamy in action
And she acted like it was a normal thing... It was embarassing really.
Rollo’s spoken extensively about this. Does anyone use the sidebar resources anymore?
New to TRP and I'm slowly working my way through it lad.
And yet your post history suggests you are comfortable giving RP advice. So which is it? Are you new or are you aware?
Here’s a piece of advice if the former is true. Read the sidebar before you go around dispensing advice, or asking questions even a cursory search of the sub can provide answers to.
This is TRP. Our standards are higher here. Respect the space.
I'm new. I found this place from NoFap.
Any advice that I have given on the sub is what I consider common sense. For example, someone said if they should cut down on coffee if they are addicted to it. I gave them advice on that because it's common sense.
I understand that there are higher standards here, and I respect that. Hence why I've made 0 posts and I don't intend to make one any time soon.
Hope this makes sense.
No. And it's pissing me off. Bans handed out.
That's some depressing shit but it's the way life is. Hope that man can get his life together after leaving her, because we all know if he comes running back she'll fuck others.
I'd say this probably wasn't the first time she cheated on him either.
Don't even have single moms in anything higher than low-status plate, let alone marriage.
The truth is, single moms (absent widows) tend to be the absolute worst sluts. It's not worth gambling. You're the prize, she's beyond desperate if she's a single mom.
Golden words: Never marry a single mom.
Golden words: Never marry
a single mom.The story in three bulletpoints.
And to be clear for the guys new to this, it doesn't matter if she did or didn't sleep with the guy. Don't spend 60 fucking seconds worrying about if a dick went in her vag. She slept at another man's house- NEXT.
Funny how this should be spelled out instead of being a common fucking knowledge.
The first line makes no sense. Even if they didn't have sex, a woman who goes back to a man's place and sleeps in his bed (likely sharing it with him), probably at least made out with him and other stuff. NEXT
lol I guess the image she would be trying to push is that she went to his house planning to fuck, then cognitive dissonance made her cry and offer some LMR. This guy who just returned from picking up women at the club suddenly became a beta white-knight who chose to respect her feelings, offering to sleep on the couch like a gentleman.
She expects her husband to be ok with this imaginary story because even though she admits she is actively seeking out strange dick, in the end she respects the relationship too much to put those dicks inside her. She will try to make the husband believe it is his fault that she feels tempted to fuck other guys because he is clingy or some shit, and she will try to portray herself as being virtuous by having (allegedly) changed her mind about getting railed at the last minute. She will also distance herself from the event by blaming alcohol. This is all ridiculous, but it is effective far too often.
People in general are very good at deluding themselves once they stick with a self-interested lie. Women are even better. She will say all of this stuff and when she does, she will actually believe she is the victim and that she ultimately did the right thing. There will be no convincing her otherwise. She might eventually offer an apology out of desperation, but it will be insincere and she will feel irritated because deep down she will still feel she did nothing wrong.
As a side note, men should avoid doing this. Lying is generally a cheap and self-destructive way of handling situations. It can be fine to tell a pragmatic lie, but it is never ok to lie to yourself like a woman does.
This makes too much sense. Goddamn, what you said so true. So many women delude themselves into thinking that anytime they cheat or come close to it is the man's fault. You see it so much on different stories that are posted where the guy finds out his girlfriend or wife cheat and somehow, it's his fault.
It's why when a woman you are in a relationship with says she wants to hang out with a guy alone, that's a HUGE red flag. Even if she doesn't do anything, she knows that you would be freaking out and paranoid. No woman who loves her man would intentionally make him paranoid.
In defense of the man tho, he did the right thing : confront her, don't trust her bullshit and leave despite her threats. Not that beta to me.
He’s certainly less beta than some of the commenters, especially the one suggesting that if the guy wanted to salvage his relationship he should try counselling.
Give me a fucking break.
Couples counseling is a scam.
I still don't get why guys even do it. Not just does it not work, but it's also expensive as hell. Then again, most guys are that desperate for just a little bit of pussy.
He could try counselling but instead of becoming "a couple" just using her as a cum dump while telling her lies about their bright future and fucking other girls. But most guys probably couldn't do that because of their emotions.
Why confront her? He should have just left without explanation but keeping the proof. Her not knowing about him knowing could be very valuable in divorce court.
Calling her 70 times also screams beta.
I mean I'd call my GF 70 times if she didn't come home, but not if I saw those messages first. I'd be more worried about her safety.
And what does calling 70 times help with her safety? You can call once and if she doesn't take it leave a message and/or text her.
People have a right to their "freedom". If I'm out with friends it's entirely possible I won't look at the phone for hours and if I then see 70 missed calls I would think the bitch is crazy. better to call the police in that case but still abit extreme if we arent talking missing for 12 hrs +
Maybe somebody would pick up her phone? Hell I'd be out looking for her by the time 3-4AM hits and she isn't home and no pick up. Use every means like snap chat location. The average person looks at their phone a few time a night for social media/time/etc, so her not responding is a big red flag
Even if they do, they are out with friends. My assumption is this was planned and you knew it. Then why should she even return your call? You knew she was out. Calling her is needy. If you did not know ok, fair enough to call once to check in but multiple times? Just needy.
Most people these days look at their phone every few minutes: so multiple hours of unanswered calls usually means something's wrong
Sad but true
I’d think the calling 70 times was out of concern for her. He was acting beta because he didn’t even think she could be cheating at that point, but calling her was probably genuine fear for her safety
Yeah, this could have gone much worse. Even to supreme cringe levels. I'm glad it didn't.
Yeah he left. But he made the mistake of trusting a single mother from the start. He is a beta.
Sure bro, as if you were born with god like mentality and never made mistakes.
That’s a mistake he kept making over and over every single day he woke up and decided it was a good idea to be married to a single mother
That’s horseshit - the dad could’ve died for all you know.
There are other reasons for a woman to be a single mother, it’s not just CC riders with shitty taste in men.
I met and married a single mother and we've been together 7 years.
There's a difference between acknowledging that single mothers are generally not a good option and treating that fact like religious dogma.
This guy is right. Why the down votes? This sub sometimes...SMH
I've long since come to the conclusion that no matter what you do, you can't trust emotions totally -- the only way to actually ensure a certain amount of stability in society is to impose masculine principle and set boundaries and consequences on female behavior (good luck with that in this feminized society, where we've given up on marriage - in the old days, when RP was common knowledge, men just imposed the 10 commandments). We still have a long way to go before we can be worthy of our ancestors...
As always, the feminine is prompt to shaming men's 'insecurities' for having trust issues -- in conservative societies men are never comfortable with the idea of letting their women off free. But this is actually a built in mechanism by nature to act as a foil against women's variable behavior - which inherently makes it less trustworthy. Call it a man's 'hypergamy sense'.
Now I know a lot of women who don't cheat as a matter of principle and I'm not saying that women absolutely lack self control - but sex addiction is no different from porn addiction or ANY kind of dopamine addiction -- once addicted, restraint and principle is out of the window.
Pleasure is a sweet tasting poison, one that in the long run sets loose a chain of destructive behaviours. Like sugar, even a little excess can quickly set you off on a path to obesity in the long run. We have access to far more pleasure than our ancestors ever did - but our brain still tends to treat pleasure as if it was scarce, the same way it prioritizes fat over muscle.
The only solution then in today's feminine primary society is for men to become high value and be very stingy with one's commitment.
Much of women's behaviours (and especially their control mechanisms over men) are subconscious firmware. But even then it's amazing how women start reacting when even the most beta blue pilled guy decides to walk out.
Sex addiction is different than cheating addiction. If someone is sex addict can't they fuck their SO, bf/gf and ask them for sex? Is cheating necessary? Or am I understanding sex addicts wrong? Do they want to have sex with multiple people?
Real sex addiction is purely a hyper active libido. It can be controlled otherwise smokers wouldn't have preferred brands and would use cannabis as easily as cigarettes. Its an impulse and a drive and some folks are stronger than others but yes a gf/bf or spouse could easily satisfy a sex addict.
In film and tv sex addiction is sensationalized. They need sex anytime, anywhere and with anyone. Man or Woman or animal if forced. Hollywood glamorizes and excuses it making it seem as if its a perversion and outside the control of the individual. Which makes it easy for some to say I had no choice I'm an addict like Harvey Weinstein claimed when confronted with his years of molestation and abuse of women.
No one will die from not having sex like you wont die from not smoking. Its impulse control despite the terrible craving. Besides many use sex addiction as an excuse for sluttery whether male or female.
The irony is how the those people would call a man who instantly desires any chick who crosses his path "a pervert", but refuse/wouldn't dare to call a man who openly shafts other men's anuses "a pervert".
Sex addiction is not just having a hyperactive libido. Your sex drive, and drive for the dopamine response are two different things. A spouse cant easily satisfy sex addiction, you ever jerked it when the gf wasn't home?
I don't think you understand addiction and how it works, if you haven't experienced it, it's not simply imluse control, or being strong willed enough.
Also even if people say they have no choice, regardless of whether that may be true or not, they should still face consequences.
It is stupid to call something natural "addiction". There is no real reason to "stop sex addiction" in modern times because as long as you use condoms (in right way) sex is safe. There is no real reasons to control yourself if you want to have a sex with a lot of people. Just woman with strong libido isn't suitable for family, but it is not like she really need it. There is nothing wrong with that. Give a real reason why to "control sluttery" if you enjoying it and there is no real harm to you? Drug addiction is bad because it kills you and it is uncontrollable. Strong libido is controllable, if it was deadly then people would just jerk off or used just one partner and preferred sexual frustration to death. Also because of how dopamine works it is nearly impossible to be satisfied with just one partner for more than 3-5 years straight in case you have strong libido - this is why there is no real reason to be monogamous for a guy with healthy sexual drive. And most women don't have such strong dopamine based desire for sex (I'm too lazy to search for proofs but this is because of difference in the brain) so most of them cheat not because of strong libido. Girl with hyper active libido couldn't be satisfied with one guy no matter how cool and alpha he is. Same as most guys wouldn't be fully satisfied sexually with one woman no matter how hot she is and how good her sex skills.
Maybe they like the 'high' of feeling wanted/still being desirable/upgrade - kind of like if an opportunity to drive a Lambo came along when all ive ever driven was a camaro
Saint Paul encouraged marriage, as the sole solution for sex addictions.
I enjoyed this part of the comment especially.
Why would you marry a single mom? If she is a single mom then it is a good chance that she is an alpha widow. She still craves the alpha dick but needed someone with resources.
in some rare cases the hubby is dead and she legitimately could have been a decent woman (still awalt), but you know what i mean
Single moms are sluts to begin with and used up don't bother.
Man stories like that hurt to read. Women are such trash. "How big was his dick then?" And I'm sure he's wife gleefully told her friend. Then they conspire so she can get away with cheating. Something that has probably happened countless times before. Women make me sick sometimes. Sure, men cheat too, but women are almost proud of themselves for it. It seems for a woman, there's no shame in anything they do. It's sad really.
I always found women cheating way more traumatizing and elaborated. It looks like they do on purpose. They want it to be the most absurd and hurtful as possible. Like you said, they look even proud of it.
Oh god this story, i witnessed something similar today. Went on a double date w my wife and her (recently divorced bc her husband kept cheating) friend, and her friend’s new potential boyfriend. He was cool, laid back, nice dude, laughed at my fucked up jokes, army senior officer. He had to leave in the afternoon because he “had something to do.”
This was him meeting with his ex-wife, who cheated on him, he also takes care of her kid (with another man) and pays child support for the child (that isnt his.) i think its $1600/mo.
After she cheated, he tried to file for divorce and she manipulated him into sex after that so he couldnt legally file for divorce on grounds of her adultery (supposedly.)
Now shes after his military pension. Gave him 3 options: stay together in an open marriage, stay married technically but not stay together so she can get the pension too, or “divorce and never see my face for the rest of your life.” He treats her child as his, as he was with her 10 years and basically raised the kid as his own, so he has this emotional attachment but still.
...and he left our double date to meet with her after all this. When my wife told me this, i felt a little sick. Brutal to see firsthand, but not my business.
As much of a cuck he is, I still feel for him man, imagine raising a child that is not yours for 10 years and then having to leave, its fucked hard believe, I still miss my ex's DOG from time to time, its human nature man that its hard to leave something when your attached to it. This is why, to avoid this type of scene, dont marry a single mother.
I do feel for him, but the double whammy is this chick is full on succubus mode on him, but this is all coming from the mouth of the friend so its all with a huge grain of salt. Yea that's his daughter at this point 10 years later, but the issue is the woman taking him for a huge run and he's letting himself get manipulated clearly. Just his nervous demeanor when he was like "...yeah I gotta go to do... something" was a little odd then I find out it's to go chase this woman who is just sucking his soul and using him for $$.
There really is something horrifying about cucked men. It probably triggers something in ourselves realising how weak and blind we once were before unplugging.
Women describe these guys as clueless. They run roughshod as they know there is no penalty for cheating. These guys stamp feet and want closure so so bad they will hamster away almost any fibs she tells so they can go back to guzzling beer and watching sports while sleepwalking thru life
They are literally a married version of Alan Harper.
There is a good reason the Bible forbids marrying a divorced woman. Thots have existed since the dawn of time.
You care to share that quote in the bible ?
Matthew 5:32 - if you marry a divorcee, you are committing adultery.
There is the verse in two different translations.
thanks ! I dont understand what is the meaning behind “committeh” and “commit”. I have never seen the former before being used in modern english.
It’s not modern English, I believe the verb tense is called subjunctive which is rarely used (I’m no English teacher). But it’s more common in other languages.
He’s not “in the process of” fucking another woman. More of a “if this happens, then it would be a state of being an adulterer”
You've never heard the term commit adultery? ESL?
Single mothers are always bad news. They either were so terrible they chased off a decent guy or they are so dumb they chose to breed with some deadbeat loser or abuser in which case what does she want from you? Not to mention pouring your resources into another mans kids, baby daddy drama and hearing "your not my dad you can't tell me what to do." Lift and make money so you don't have to lower yourself to accepting societies dregs.
Case and Point: Keep your SMV high. And ideally choose women AT or BENEATH your SMV and keep it that way. Women aren’t fucking DOWN. If you’re desirable to many women, you increase your woman’s desire to please you and keep you happy (aka suck, fuck, and not cheat).
It’s really that simple.
Why would you commit to a woman below your SMV? That sounds depressing as fuck,
Men date across and down. Only women date across and up.
Lots of dudes date women below their smv. As men we equate beauty to smv. But women equate wwealth, status, fitness and atrractiveness to smv.
A women will have a list her prince charming must meet to get her in a relationship. She will date a doctor not a male nurse. She will date a mangaer not a male receptionist. She will date a college grad not less than that etc
A dude will date a hot woman whether she's a doctor or nurse. Manager or receptionist, College educated or High school graduate.
So a guy with high smv is likely to date an attractive women with lower smv. It doesn't mean he's dating an Uggo
Oh from a total package perspective I agree. Looks wise, I disagree.
Exquisite control, my friend.
No thanks, I have no interest in having control over a 5/6 I’d only fuck when I’m piss drunk at 3am.
I'm with you on that.
One great thing about much younger women is that while my SMV is high enough to compete, my RMV to them is nil.
Why is that depressing? Its just how nature works. Women want higher value men and men are willing to settle for slightly less if its a good match.
No, we’ll fuck down. But we won’t commit down.
As long as you are happy as a single guy, potentially in perpetuity, then this is a solid strategy. If you do want kids or stability, you may have to compromise a small amount.
This. You marry for the kid's well-being and stability. To do that you'll be marrying someone who is strong loyal and who would risk too much by cheating on you. The trick is to not lose value once you settle down. Stay in shape, keep fit, and keep enough hobbies to have a social life outside the home for at least a few days per week
I’ll commit down I don’t have to buy the fanciest car at the dealership just to impress people who don’t care about me, I can drive a humble car that suits my needs.
So the lesson here is just to never get married? Being married is totally beta.
Sad story for the man in question, that’s for sure. But at least he had the guts to leave this lying, entitled bitch. I hope she grows old poor and alone with a bunch of cats because she spent her younger years cheating on blokes who cared about her. This is the future for women... because slowly but surely men are catching on to the fact that women only care about themselves and their hypergous needs. Have sex with them, don’t LTR them. Don’t let them have your kids unless you are 100% certain that is what you want.
Just don't be with single mothers. At best they are horrible decisions makers. More so if you were brought up by a single mother. But I know lots of fuckers hear this and think "these people here are misogynists who are trying to tell me that my own single mother was trash"
NEVER EVER take care of another man's kid.
All right so you listed all the don'ts. What about the do's? TRP is confusing me a bit on what I should do with women, plates or ltr? If ltr how do you get it stable and cool? Some say Higher value woman? After all hypergamy doesn't give a fuck right?
Get to know her friends. Are her girlfriends cheating sloots? Then there's a high probability she is too and the girls night out will be sausage parties.
In general I'd advise spinning plates to gather experience before even considering a LTR.
I have lived in an LTR for three years with zero drama. I have had previous drama free relationships that ended on my terms. These are your red flags to avoid:
Single mother or even a divorcee Drug use or other risk taking behaviour Binge drinking Friends with dumb sluts Victim of childhood abuse Bipolar or depression High number of previous sexual partners
What you want in an LTR is a girl that has a good relationship with her parents (particularly her father) , has slept with 3 men or less in committed relationships and keeps company with decent people. Stay fit and make money so you are worthy as girls like this are very far and few between these days.
Slept only with 3 men? Find me this one and I'll buy you a car!
It is very hard to find I agree. But sluts are far too dangerous to LTR. Plate status only.
Dude, 3 is still not worth it man.
That's what she will say, but it can easily be 5 or 10.
Go find a girl who is a virgin or had only one cock inside of her.
Go to a fucking church if you want a relationship, otherwise just jump and dump.
I did that last one and I got fucked bad. Bitch and I ended after an endless love and dramatic story, that in the end one year later she's fucking other dudes probably. I don't like virgins
Mine only ever slept with one before I met her.
But how do you know that ? Women always lie about previous partners. I had a girl tell me she had one partner but she had 5. I had a women tell me 4 and it was 8. Whatever number she says you will have to almost double that number or add three. I even had a women tell me she was a Virgin but later her number was 3. So based on my experience your GF probably has around 3-4 previous partners. One of the hardest pills to swallow is that women always lie about their notch count.
And, these are just the ones that they say 'count'. If they were drunken encounters, they don't count. If it was just a bj or anal, they don't count. If they didn't love the guy, they don't count. If the guy was just a smooth talker, they don't count. If the girl wasn't satisfied, it didn't count. Etc...
She might have lied about the number but she was pretty inexperienced when I met her and now does whatever I want in the sack so I don’t feel like I’m being screwed.
That's what many say. A girl I plated said I was her "second" on the first date (we fucked first date) and then two months later when she "fell in love" and I had to end the plating, said I was actually 4th. She hooked up with a couple of guys before she met me but had only one official bf before so was ashamed to add them to count.
First girl I had told me she was a virgin. Later on, a classmate came to me in confidence and told me to start having sex with her but my BP self thought he was trying to interfere with "our love". More than a year later while we're fooling around, I end up sliding into her unintentionally. Even though I was a virgin at that time and should have been excited for my first action, it was like a whole lot of knowledge suddenly became unlocked in that instant. I immediately pulled out, got off her and sat on the floor naked, facing away from her. Started connecting all the dots and realized I was a fool. Quite certain that she had dealt with at least 2 other guys while I claimed her as gf.
If you're a man then you're doing yourself no favors getting with a single mother and honestly you're making the overall problem worse.
"Till death do us part".
Isn't that vow an automatic death sentence, (literally), to the woman?
You forgot to add in to your ending morals. Be the other guy. Who doesn't commit to used up trash, but still has a great time hanging and banging out with her.
Bonus: Besides getting laid, you learn to recognize cheating behavior even more easily by seeing it from the cheater's perspective.
The utterly insane things I've seen now.
A girl can wake up from an absolutely destroyed night of hard drinking, to answer a phone call from her beta, because her phone vibrates. And then tell him how much she loves him, after a rough night of hard dicking in every possible way, and lay back down, nude, cuddle up small, with a guy who doesn't care of she lives or dies.
You can't even get mad after awhile. Cause that's all of them. The women, we love.
I haven't seen anything quite that bad personally yet, but I've seen some shit that's made me feel physically sick. You can know and truly understand AWALT and all, but not much can prepare you for the visceral gut reaction when you see it in action.
Having a girl in bed with you while she talks on the phone to her boyfriend is a life changing experience. It like readjusts the level of baseline trust you have in other people that you start out with when you are a kid to a much more realistic level for the real world.
I had an 19 year old girl hooking me up with other girls, doing a threesome with me, and hanging on my every word. Buying me food, liquor, concert tickets, getting betas to buy her stuff for me. When I was homeless. And she had a beta engineer fiance she met on WoW the whole time in some fucked up LDR thing.
I met him. I was there when he flew out to my place, to maybe get a BJ from my main plate, his fiance, wearing his ring, and I showed him around town.
Sometimes I wonder how they ended up. God I hope he didn't marry her.
Sounds way too good to be true.
I’ve been the dude on both sides of that phone call
Its very real
Gut wrenching, yet so predictable female behavior. Never trust a bitch.
At least he kind of gets it at the end and is making a clean break. I've seen too many of these saps forgive and try to heal the relationship. He may well have a good future ahead, once he navigates this one costly mistake.
The worst part of the story is she has custody of her son. That poor kid..
So my wife isn’t supposed to go out with her girlfriend(s)?
Not to clubs or lounges past 10pm without you.
You marry a single mom who is still into the party life after several years of parenting and marriage then you made your own fucking bed. Yes yes AWALT but I know plenty of moms in their 30s who would laugh at the notion of bar hopping with friends until 1am. This girl basically branded herself with "I'm a slut" based on her past behavior and he still locked it up
Guy texting her worried about an unlocked door and calling her 70 times already sounds like a complete beta. On top of that he still said he wasn't 100% sure she cheated.
What we have here is classic single mother looking for a weak man to bail out her bad decision making but still being attractive to bad boys
I married a woman whose husband cheated on her. She has a daughter. But we are trying to have our own kid. Is that beta behavior?
Yea, it implies to society that you don't see enough value in yourself to have a wife without any previous kids.
What's NAWALT? Is there an acronym page? Noob sorry
Not all women are like that.
Change the locks. Throw her shit in a bag and out the window. Move on.
Except he's married to a single mom who is a sociopath as evidence by her unabashed attempts to manipulate him through psychological gas lighting.
I don't even need to know her to know that she's capable of making spurious allegations that he abused her and her child. The cops are called the moment he starts throwing stuff out and changing locks and that's when her lies begin and an all too willing judicial system and a white knight police force begins to flex their muscles. If he's lucky, it's only his reputation amongst his friends, family, and employer that is tarnished. He might actually be charged for some lies she tells, or worse yet convicted.
Right now, the best thing he could be doing was figuring out how to amicably divorce this woman, which means not dwelling on her infidelity, teaching her a lesson, etc. (she's incapable of remorse, why bother?). May as well just give her half and try to convince her its in her best interest and fully mutual and "we can be friends". No need to start a revenge fantasy that this guy has no hopes of winning.
This has been a hard and fast rule for me. I wouldn't even date them. (Boy imagine the shit storm when you tell a woman "I don't date girls with kids...") but anyway,
If he would have just followed that rule he would have avoided all of this. Raising another man's kid = zero self respect. That or it's impossible for you to have a relationship with a woman who doesn't have them already because you are so low value. Either way, you need to sort your life out. Marriage should be the furthest thing from your mind.
There is a special place reserved on Earth for those who marry single divorced moms.
HELL.
yeah, once she has a child with another man, it's a no-no. fuck that shit.
But if you're a true alpha, one shouldn't care about what society thinks, or am I alone in this opinion. I don't care what society thinks. What I care about is that she is honorable, not a skank, holds her own, and maintains her integrity. I trust her implicitly.
Not to mention, we have chemistry, understand each other, and she doesn't ask me to take care of her daughter.
Why should she be labeled as less than desirable because what some other man did to her?
I'm just curious bc I'm always open to new though processes.
because virgin youth is peak value woman. Baby stretched vagina, post wall hag is low value.
Settling for the latter is branding yourself low smv.
If you could get 10x the hottest women you can imagine you wouldn’t even consider a total babe who has the only downside being a puss the size of Jabba the huts pit
This is essentially the abundance/scarcity mentality dichotomy
Well if a tight pussy and physical hotness are the only criteria you use to judge a woman as desirable, then I have to respectfully disagree. I was married to another woman who was also a single mom...but she had a c-section, so her vaginal cavity was untouched by the rigors of child birth. And she had a banging body. She worked at Hooters. She was a stone cold fox. But she was batshit crazy and she ended up cheating on me.
I pursued several other women - all single, to no avail. And yet, I kept my current wife on the back burner until I was certain that she would make a good wife.
This woman is basically my sex slave. She fucks when I want. She cooks for me. She cleans for me. I don't fuck with the laundry. She even sucks my cock if I tell her to. She is my ride-or-die bitch.
She's not as attractive as my ex...but I'd trust her with my life. And from my experience, trust, undying loyalty, honesty, and unconditional respect are more valuable than physical traits.
She is doing this all out of true love, not because she doesn't want to raise a kid alone without your wallet. What a unicorn.
Everyone here on TRP emphasizes Chad and Alpha seed being important to a woman. But remember that Beta resources are just as important to her. No point in having Alpha Chad's baby if they both starve to death.
Remember this post when the little angel you're raising screams "YOU'RE NOT MY DAD!" when you try to put your foot down. Speaking of real Dad, he's still in the picture, right? Something else you have to deal with for the next 18 years.
Can't tell if that's sarcasm or genuine.
But what I'm gathering is that she only married me for my resources...is that right?
This is all new to me because after my ex wife cheated on me, I was devastated and I couldn't see myself with another woman. My current wife comes along, shows me unconditional love and respect, and according to TRP, I took the bait, because she's using me for my resources.
And in terms of discipline, I've already told my current wife that I demand respect. Especially since I am working to provide for the living expenses.
I mean in all honesty, I could have gotten a younger woman, and dated and then married, but there was no gaurantee with that route. Marrying my current wife was as much for me as it was for her.
I married her so I could have a kid...sooner than later. My parents are elderly and I wanted them to experience the joys of being grand parents...seeing as how this is my third marriage. The first one, I cheated. The second, she cheated. Hopefully this one sticks.
I digress. My main point is that I found a woman who is going to provide what I need now, so why risk trying to find that somewhere else?
Poor man...
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I am guessing this is denial?
Any sane person that read his OP would assume 100% lol
Yep. Just use and run. Got v card and they can’t own you. Would never marry single mom ever.
Lol relationship advice is a goldmine of red pill examples. Post after post of red pill evidence.
Good on him for walking out. I hope the courts don't force him to pay for his ex-wife's kid but it wouldn't surprise me.
Another guy falling victim to the idea that women actually care about men as people and actually mean what they say "she has trust issues and trust was important to her." Guys are so lost man (not their fault though).
The “latter” not applying to females also applies to adoption.
3% of men adopt. 1% of women adopt. They’ll pressure you to take care of their spawn, but the situation would not ever be reversed.
"A woman will stand on a mountain of Bibles, look God in the eye, and lie to him."
.......Some guy
Never fun reading a cautionary tale, yet sadly this is so common these days. Use the red pill or suffer.
There are few things as pathetic as a guy putting time, energy and money into a single mom and some other guy's offspring. For an occasional no-strings-attached roll in the sack they can be great, especially as they pull out all the tricks and put on a real performance to try to hook the guy. It's some of the best sex ever. But never ever ever give them more than just a good dicking. And never ever ever bond or even pretend to bond with her kid(s).
I've run through this scenario in my head. I would be hard pressed to not take it out on the child. Poor kid.
Of course she's heart broken. Where else is she going to find a nanny that pays for all her stuff?
Yeah. I cannot fathom the possibility of raise the offspring of another man. This is, IMO, a form of humiliation. I would feel this way if I subjected to such scenario.
For the guy mentioned by OP, I only hope that he finds the RP way of doing things.
Lmao my dumbass mom divorced my dad she had 7 kids with him. She at 35 ran to a 22 year old. We ended up living with them. This guy was the OD Beta. He was her fiancé but she never married, now he left and the house is getting foreclosed on, he’s still a beta with another single mom now. Oh and my dad degenerated into an alcoholic over the last decade as a result of divorce. My dad however was by no means a beta. Worked 80hrs a week, super dominant person. Now he’s broke.
When I read the whole story I just started to laugh. Hope this lesson confirms him to TRP.
Widowed ones are dangerous too...there is a solid chance that the bitch put him in the ground.
This is what happens when your wife/girlfriend is better looking and has more options than you. Its impossible for a woman to be loyal to a man who is below her in terms of looks.
The key to this story is the part about the women having the competition to bone the hottest man. Looks =life say it with me. Your looks determine everything as a man for you
This is a fucking class A example...man if I was that dude I would of moved my shit out the second I saw that message. No words nada...next that bitch faster than road runner.
“Marriage nah. Especially with a single mah.”
New maxim
What’s the “big daddy government” role here? Can you elaborate?
it allows women to not be responsible for their fuck ups.
That's why they want birth control and abortions paid for by the government. Hey, it's a free country, but don't expect me to pay for you to get your freak on. F that.
Damn such a sad situation for the guy.
Girl's night out doesn't equate cheating for fuck sake.
I know plenty of women that are in relationships, go out with friends a lot and never cheated on them. And some that did.
You make some solid points, but you over generalize and fall into misogyny.
The bottom line it’s not acceptable behavior in an LTR. The only reason women congregate at clubs and bars late at night is to find random dick.
Or having drinks and having fun.
Or looking for random cock.
True, could be. Could be at her work as well. Or with your brother when he came to bring you some tools. Or with somebody she met at the church.
The opportunity does not make a cheater imho. Cheating makes a cheater.
Better to not put herself in a compromising situation to begin with.
What? No. I am not paranoid for thinking that if my wife goes outside she's instantly being impaled by Chad!
Of course you are.
If you're so insecure don't marry.
I know plenty of women that never cheat/cheater, friends I'm very close with which I often go dance or party with when their partner isn't there and they simply don't cheat.
To seriously think that every woman (or man) is a cheater is straight idiotic.
Shaming language and horseshit NAWALT logic.
Cheating is only ever a matter of options and opportunity. Women are not rational in their mating behaviors.
Then don't marry, easy peasy.
...Where are the stories of dudes fucking other girls while their one of many "gfs" is out doing who cares what?
We never hear about that shit, lmao.
These stories are so cookie cutter it's not even entertaining anymore.
How the hell did incels get taken down but this shit is allowed to stay up.
Please tell us what you were thinking... A guy got cheated and this sub needs to go? what the fuck?
Oh no, I feel for the guy and think the woman is absolute scum. My issue lies with the idea that women are naturally "hypergamous"... And that if you're nice and caring to her, that she will become disgusted with you.
Don't get me wrong, I know of and hear about the typical relationship where the guy was this sweet person and the woman was a cheating asshole. I despise these people. I think they are too immature to even date and they end up fucking the guy up a little.
On the other hand, I think being nice to the right person is absolutely great!
I don't know. I think relationships are an absolute shit show nowadays and both parties tend towards being unfaithful. It sucks.
You’re too naive. You will learn the hard way and end up on asktrp with ECs telling you to sidebar.
Oh dear. Why are you so threatened about a story of a guy being cheated on?
Annoyed that the jig is up?
My thoughts exactly. It’s frightening to read this thread and think people may actually believe this stuff.
Yeah like people believe 911 wasn't an inside job like ooommmggggg.
Gtfo
So you're equating 911 being fact with single mothers being unfaithful?
Jesus christ.
Ah the dude who is so paranoid he has to supervise his girlfriend’s visit to planned parenthood believes in wild conspiracy theories. Shocker.
The guy who planed 9/11 had a bush