I bounce between the two subs. (Initially started on Redpill thanks to RolloTomasi). The differences between the contributors are stark. Both accept women are flawed. One group tries to use their weaknesses to their advantage sexually, the other wants nothing to do with them relationship-wise. But for me, the real difference is the attitude and discourse. Likely because one group is in competition with one another for puss and the other is just plan supportive. May redpillers are mean, angry and derogatory in their replies "man up faggot," "stop being a beta pussy" etc. MGTOW I find is very supportive and a real place for guys to hang out and share experiences and insights. And they are a helluva lot funnier. so keep it up fuckers.