Attention all women - Don’t worry, the men of the Red Pill have your backs

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  • Women are much better off with men who hold frame completely. A true red pill man will not argue, fight with or strike a woman. She knows that he walks away from all arguments and withdraws all affection until she is calm. He is the rock upon which her emotions break.

  • Women are better off with men who are in shape and who accept personal responsibility for their actions. A red pill man takes care of his body and his business. A red pill man has a mission and a purpose and he leads.

  • A red pill man knows that most women are emotional and nurturing people and he loves that about them. He enjoys her enthusiasm, her cuddles, her support and her company. He understands that most women adore men who lead and take care of them. Whilst he has her love, loyalty and support he is happy to do that. It comes very naturally to us.

  • Red pill men understand that women have been tricked and lied to. We know that less attractive, very angry women have invented a horrible movement to try and turn women into men. This movement would have women believe they can do anything a man can do. We are here to destroy the lies and tell the truth. The truth is women cannot beat men in a fight like they show in the movies. Most women do not want to act, dress and speak like men, they are perfectly happy to be women, and what is wrong with that?

  • We know that there are a small percentage of women who do want to behave like men and do many of the things that men do. This is already allowed in western culture and women can do whatever study and take whatever job and play whatever sport they want. We do not oppose equality of opportunity, we oppose the fraudulent and dangerous idea that you can legislate equality of outcome. In a universe governed by laws of physics and biology it is ridiculous to deny that biology plays a part in our choices and desires.

  • Men of the red pill know that most women want to feel accepted and happy for BEING FEMININE. There is nothing wrong with wanting to dress up, make a beautiful home, have children and raise them. We also understand that there is a chorus of deluded people who thing that all humans are androgynous blank slates. The media makes a lot of money paying liars to write poisonous articles which lie and say that men and women are the same. This is obviously false and even a child knows better. I will repeat it, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING FEMININE. It is a terrible shame that it had to be men who figured this out for you, but don’t be sad, the men of the red pill have your back.

  • Men of the red pill stand opposed to modern feminism. Unfortunately feminism has now been hijacked and commercialised to serve the few, at the expense of the many. Feminism is a poisonous doctrine and it is not possible to be a feminist who understands the truth. Feminism is a lie, there is no truth left in it. Most of the inequality in the world is based on economic and racial factors. Where were the black dress wearing stooges of Hollywood when the schoolgirls were kidnapped by Boko Haram? Western feminists DO NOT CARE about women. It is a hostile and hateful movement populated by brainwashed bigots. It is a racist movement which only cares about minor irritations to white women.

  • When feminists talk about a wage gap they only talk about the gap between white women and white men. They say that women earn 81 cents for every dollar a man earns. This is only the difference between WHITE women and white men. White women earn more than black men, black women, hispanic men, hispanic women. There is no movement by white women to ensure that black or hispanic people of both genders earn as much as they do. In reality the top 4 earners in the USA as a class are asian men, then white men, then asian women, then white women. Why aren’t white women pointing fingers at Asian women or asian men who both earn more than them?

  • Feminism is the biggest lie of the modern era, it is really just a power grab and a cash cow for the media. Feminism claims to stand against sexism and racism when they are guilty of stereotyping, racism and misandry against white men. All feminists are by definition hypocrites. You cannot counter hatred with more hatred. That is like trying to cure a poisoned person, by administering more poison. The opposite of hate is love.

  • The red pill is a love movement. Look at the mission statement “sexual strategy”. We have red pill subs for men and women who want to improve themselves, be better lovers and better partners. We have information for married people who want to improve themselves and therefore their marriage. The red pill rejects the idea that we hate women, on the contrary, we seek out endless opportunities to love them more and love more of them. You cannot have love and peace when there is a war going on. We say to feminists, lay down your arms, stop lying and hating and enjoy being a woman. Women are awesome and they do not need you to tell them what to think.

Peace ✌️ ❤️

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Title Attention all women - Don’t worry, the men of the Red Pill have your backs
Author 88Will88
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Date 03 July 2018 03:25 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]Flux_7129 points130 points  (4 children) | Copy

The wage gap is a myth.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV435 points436 points  (63 children) | Copy

I'm glad we're addressing this : The Red Pill is about improving relationships.

I hate it when ignorant fools try to tell me I "hate" women - bitch I love'em, can't get enough of them! All I wanna do is have fun with them.

Men and Women both prosper from Red Pill in their relationships.

Love and peace <3

[–]ohyeawellyousuck120 points121 points  (51 children) | Copy

Well, and this may be an ignorant question or view as I'm not any kind of endorsed contributor, but how does the constant awalt, women are sluts, don't marry, relationships only work if they are plates, etc. vibe fit into red pill being positive to a relationship.

I have my own opinions about this and how AWALT is affected by confirmation bias in this community, but I'd be interested in hearing a differing view about it.

I should also note that I understand the high risk, low reward nature of marriage for a man and have little interest in bringing the courts and lawyers into any relationship I have. I do, however, believe long term, happy relationships can exist with the red pill. That seems to be a very rare opinion on this sub. While I understand anger phase, it would seem many people adopt the opinion, regardless of where they are in their red pill journey, that no women should be worth your commitment as they will all cheat regardless of how much red pill you bring into the relationship.

[–]drty_pr282 points283 points  (15 children) | Copy

Understand two things:

1) Redpill is a toolbox. Use what you like and discard what you don't in an attempt to bring you happiness and self actualization.

2) Redpill is infested with Incels and men who blame women for their own problems. Being completely oblivious to the fact almost all of their problems are of their own doing. Don't let the women haters spoil the sub for you.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think this is a great point. Some people treat TRP like a religion where everything said on here needs to be followed to a T.

There's a lot I like about TRP.

  • The insistence of getting off your ass and taking action, not only in terms of personal growth (appearance, finances, etc.) but in terms of women as well.

  • The way it explains male and female sexual behavior and how it is rooted in evolution.

  • The way it is a place for men who feel lost in the world to come and congregate in a "safe space" (lol). In a world where men's issues are barely acknowledged and men feel more and more marginalized it's important for men to be able to come to a place and talk with other men about male things.

That being said there's certain aspects of TRP theory that I don't ascribe to:

  • For instance dark triad and heavy dread game is just simply something I don't do. I perfectly understand how effective it can be it's just not my cup of tea. Not judging anyone who does it, just not for me.

  • For me personally, I've had my fill of spinning plates and one night stands. I feel more personally fulfilled when I'm in a LTR with a woman I care about. I don't rely on her for happiness though. That being said I don't go out looking for women to LTR. I am a big proponent of the vetting process that is recommended on here.

  • I want to get married one day despite the risks because I want to have kids and raise them to be great adults. And I feel that the best way to do that is through marriage.

And then there's some things about TRP I don't like:

  • While hating women certainly isn't a tenant of TRP, you can tell a fair amount of the commenters on this sub hate women. Not the majority, not the endorsed contributors, but there's a lot of very angry men on this subreddit.

  • That's why this post is important because I feel like some people on this subreddit need to be reminded that hatred of women doesn't do anything for you.

[–]RedsideoftheMoon15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah as with any school of thought worth its salt, if you ignore the extremes and go straight for the meat, you'll find those sweet, juicy jewels of knowledge. Eventually from that batch the ones who suck it up, take responsibility for changing their lives, and put in the work will evolve past that stage but naturally there will be a constant influx of newbies coming in at that beginning stage as well as people who never get past it. You just do you booboo

[–]Rian_Stone16 points17 points  (9 children) | Copy

If they didn't need the guidance, they wouldn't be here.

I'd start to worry if there was no male deficiency in here

[–]drty_pr8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy

100%. I just wish people were quicker over here to call people faggots as we do on the other sub

[–]Rian_Stone4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Can't trust kids with the power, they get too edgy and overuse it. 😂

[–]drty_pr5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Kinda like when I let my boys go free range with their sling shots. Suddenly they turn into gangsters and nothing is safe.

[–]Persaeus3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

you're not having fun if no one gets hurt

[–]drty_pr1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I make em wear safety glasses. I remember when the band snapped and almost took my eye out as a child. Other than that, they'll live.

[–]Persaeus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

a safe-ish way to play war is to make bullets by filling the corner of sandwich bags with flower and then then tying/cutting them off.

you can also see when you hit your opponent as the little baggy often explodes

[–]Rian_Stone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Such an 80s hobby

[–]lapeparoja0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Kinda, you just cannot discard something because you dont like it. Do it at your peril.

[–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero165 points166 points  (23 children) | Copy

There are a lot of moving parts to your comment, which pretty much cover the spectrum of TRP theory.


First, I'm a lawyer; and I view marriage through a legal lens. It's important to distinguish matrimony (the [spiritual] union of two people as a committed couple) and marriage (the enforceable contract governed by the state which transfers legal title to property from one person to another).

In common parlance, marriage = matrimony. In order to demonstrate your love for your partner, you're supposed to have a ceremony that expresses your intent to be bonded with this person forever (or at least, that's what is socially expected). And while you and your significant other go through this matrimonial ceremony, it's also customary to pledge your property and financial assets to each other and promise to financially support the income-weaker between you two, until they die or remarry. Doesn't that sound romantic?

The advice against marriage is business advice. You wouldn't just jump into a business partnership with any yahoo who might embezzle from you and irresponsibly crash your business, but people haphazardly choose to pledge their financial security to their significant other without a second thought. They only sober up when things don't play out happily ever after, and now they're on the hook to comply with a court order to split assets and pay spousal maintenance.

So the TRP advice against marriage isn't synonymous with advice against matrimony; TRP advice against marriage is like a lawyer, CPA, financial advisor, and insurance actuary giving you financial investment advice about how you should be careful about who has access to your valuables.

TRP, in general

Second, at its core, TRP seeks to answer one question: what stimulus do women really respond to? Our culture teaches us that people, both men and women, *should* behave in a certain way and that relationships *should* be a certain way. This gives all of us certain expectations for how people should behave and react to us.

But social and cultural values don't always reflect nature. Masturbation may be a sin according to Judeo-Christian ethics and we're all expected to refrain from touching ourselves sexually; but as sexual creatures, boys and girls will always experiment with masturbation, even if they don't talk about it in public.

So what other things might we be expected to do publicly that we naturally do differently without discussing it? What things do people really respond to, especially when it comes to sex and physical attraction? Furthermore, what does it really mean to be in a relationship?

These are the questions TRP seeks to understand the answers to, free from the cultural and social framing we grew up with.

The results seem to be that people are not as pious as one might socially expect. Turns out, women like sex just as much as men (if not more than men). Turns out, fidelity is a wonderful virtue; but the median person doesn't behave virtuously.

So there's a clash between our socially developed expectations and the reality of how people act and the kind of behavior they respond to.

Anger Phase

Many men go through the anger phase as a result of the contrast between their expectations that women should be a certain way and how they really are. These men in the anger phase are hostile toward women because they blame women for their difference from the guy's expectations.

But these men are just angry fools. Eventually, the wise ones of them will grow past their own foolishness and stop being angry at women and learn to accept women for who they are and how they react to things. We can only know truth when we listen without opinion.

TRP Theory

Ultimately, the view is that the median person honestly doesn't want a long term relationship. Well, more specifically, the median person's actions are moreso driven by short term interests rather than long term goals.

While men and women pay lip service to the notion of being in a long term committed relationship, their actions indicate the contrary. Despite the fact that they may appreciate the emotional stability and financial support of a long term relationship, the problem is that those traits are not sexually exciting.

Sex is about excitement. Muscled men are exciting. Passion is exciting. Things that are new are exciting. Things that are old are neither passionate nor exciting.

So it's difficult to maintain a long term, boring, unexciting relationship when we are biologically wired to respond positively to new, passionate, exciting things, especially when sex is in the mix.

TRP on Attraction

You cannot negotiate attraction. Sexual attraction is not the result of a pragmatic chain of logical conclusions. Instead, sexual attraction is a hormonal, chemical response, often almost uncontrollable. At the end of the day, we are all just animals; so we shouldn't be surprised when people behave like animals.

Because sex and sexual attraction is exciting and exciting things have a tendency to drive our short term decision making, people are more likely to follow their hormones rather than their rational, pragmatic logic when it comes to sexual opportunities.

TRP on Women

So it isn't that TRP hates women or thinks women are second class (well, not as a main focus of the subject, at least). It's that TRP is about the reality of what people want, as determined by their actions, not as determined by their words. And it certainly appears that the median man and woman will act on their sexual attraction to other people, even when they are in a "committed" relationship. They will lie about it, they will twist certain truths, they will dodge responsibility, and they will eventually get bored and unfulfilled by the stagnant old relationship and pursue the new and exciting relationship.

This doesn't mean long term relationships are impossible, just statistically improbable because all women, all people, are still human and are still driven by their biological urges. AWALT.

Again, TRP isn't about hating women. TRP is about figuring out what stimulus women really respond to, and how we as men can realistically increase our success with women, mostly in a sexual context, but also to a lesser degree in long term relationships.

TRP on Plate Spinning

Plate spinning is just a practical approach to the transient sexual game between men and women. It's saying, "hey, I didn't make the rules to this game; I just understand how it's played. Chances are good that *she* [whoever] isn't the kind of girl you want to take home to meet your parents, but you still want to get your dick wet. As the 'relationship' is going to crash eventually, you might as well enjoy the ride while you can. She isn't yours; it's just your turn."


Ultimately, all of this is positive toward relationships between men and women because it's a study of discovering exactly what women want. By giving them exactly what they want, they are the most happy and we receive what we want. Then, by consistently providing the appropriate stimuli, we are potentially better at coaxing a relationship into persisting for lengthier period of time.

The important thing to realize is that a long term relationship is not like a train that can sit idlely on a track and be fine; a relationship is like an airplane that needs constant input in order to stay aloft. TRP recognizes this and also recognizes that sometimes, despite your best efforts, relationships crash. It's just important to learn from your mistakes, figure out how to improve yourself, don't get too hung up on past failures (or hung up on exs), and then don't be afraid to get back in the saddle and do it all again with someone else.

Back to Marriage

On a final note, except for taxes, nearly every legal property right can be covered by some form of contract or estate plan. Marriage is merely an automatic bundle of rights, but you can piecemeal those same rights outside of marriage. Marriage literally is designed at law to provide the bulk of its value after your death. In life, it's almost entirely a liability, a Doom of Damocles. Don't get married.

[–]kaane36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

This comment is much better than the original post

[–]modSlyGradient7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good comment, +1 point awarded.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

"In the end, TRP isn't about hating women. TRP is about figuring out what women really want, what stimulus they really respond to, and how we as men can realistically increase our success with women, mostly in a sexual context, but also to a lesser degree in long term relationships"

This is a tool of RP I use all the time, and the SO is happy.

[–]NormalAndy6 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy

A great post.

Wrt the 'excitement' point, is it the same taboo with men and a love for excitement and drama as it is for women and enjoying sex? I expect to behave in line with Stoicism 1) in order to get the long term reward at the expense of short term satisfaction, 2) to discover that the satisfaction comes from being able to tame and control my basic urges rather than giving in to them.

From that perspective, I see marriage as a civil contract, as well as something borne from love, being no bad thing. The danger is the only the blue pill/ Disney princess ideal. A contract sets boundaries and rules for how partners should behave towards one another- this is a good thing. If and when a marriage is done, the contract can be disolved.

Accepting that relationships are transient means getting rid of the attachment of failure towards divorce, removing the 'till death us do' part of the contract and finding healthier ways for children to flourish under such circumstances.

Stable families are good for children- far better than the current State/ single parent alternatives- even here in Sweden where it is far better than any country I have ever seen. If families are going out of fashion, what is a better solution to keep evolving the species? I remain suspicious of State ambitions and would love to see a better alternative laid out which works well within the ideals of independent, free living.

[–]ApexmanRP9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

"same taboo with men and a love for excitement and drama"

Stoicism isn't just about maintaining control of your emotions, its about accepting the world as it is. There is room for delight, excitement and fun and a deep connection within that.

Women dont want robots.

[–]NormalAndy2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Stoicism is about keeping yourself in check. Excitement and fun are shallow pursuits and often at odds with the deeper joy which comes from giving up childishness and becoming a man.

Call me a boring robot if you will- I can easily live with that- even appreciate it!

[–]ApexmanRP6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hey more power to you in terms of how you want to live your life. but.. you might want to check your understanding of stoicism..

Stoics viewed pleasure as neither good nor bad in and of itself, as long as it doesn't control you.

[–]NormalAndy1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol- no worries. I think we are splitting hairs. I had spent a lifetime raging and raving but have undoubtedly found peace in self restraint and self control.

I can happily dismiss a robot comment because I understand how far away from the truth it really is- but sticking to my mission ain’t no bad thing.

But you are right, pleasure and pain are just happenings and there to be fully experienced with no regrets.

[–]ApexmanRP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"I had spent a lifetime raging and raving but have undoubtedly found peace in self restraint and self control."

Agreed, of course, self restraint and control are very important, as is sticking to your mission.

I like to balance that off with some fun and antics.. and driving fast occasionally!

[–]NormalAndy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sure thing. It’s comforting to know that the rave isn’t going anywhere (although if you weren’t there in the eighties/nineties then you missed it tbh :-)

But its even more comforting for me to know my self discipline and focus are there.

Truly though, the raves did point the way for me but the real challenge is to achieve those higher states without the drugs.

It’s the zen ‘finger pointing to the moon’ (don’t concentrate on the finger); it’s the process of being able to turn off the computer when you have completed your research. It’s being able to understand the messages life sends to you and use them accordingly.

[–]jm512 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

If families are going out of fashion, what is a better solution to keep evolving the species?

Walking Marriages have their pros and cons.

Not so good for the economic growth of a society but seems good for keeping a family unit intact even if times are hard.

At the poorer end of society, we already have similar. eg. guys with a few baby mommas that give more time and resources to his sisters children than his own.

[–]NormalAndy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks! I’ll have a chat with a few of my Chinese clients about this one tomorrow- very interesting.

[–]Sumshot4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Accepting that relationships are transient means getting rid of the attachment of failure towards divorce, removing the 'till death us do' part of the contract and finding healthier ways for children to flourish under such circumstances.

So, if we remove "till death us do" then why are consequences after the divorce? Why should the financially stronger part have to pay for the weaker one after divorce? In most countries he has to do so for the rest of his life, Sweden is no exception. And if you remove that, what difference remains compared to not marrying anyways (regarding the civil contract)?

If families are going out of fashion, what is a better solution to keep evolving the species?

Easy. Just stop helping single mothers/fathers financially and reduce social help in general to the bare minimum. That solves this issue automatically. Just look into countries where it is like that. Much stronger family bonds, much more sane and responsible behaviour of men and especially women.

[–]NormalAndy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dunno- not helping single mothers stops divorce and keeps people in bad marriages.

Btw, I’m not flag waving for Sweden (lucky goal that)- I find the experience here ‘interesting’ to the point of scary in its banality.

[–]Sumshot4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it can be argued that a bad marriage is often better than a divorce from the perspective of the children. But keeping people in bad marriages is not as bad as it sounds (or as you make it sound).

First, people will start to invest more to prevent bad marriages from the beginning. Just look how family in eastern countries care for their children to marry a good partner.

Second, people will work harder to make sure the marriage doesn't fail. That includes both parts.

Last, look at kids nowadays. Video games and everything else has become so much more easy in general for them. I'm not arguing that this is bad, but it has a drawback. Sometimes you need to live through the hard times to understand that it is often worth the trouble and will reward you in the end. Fast and easy rewards is what happens today both in video games and in marriages - but in marriages more for women than for men.

So all in all I think while you made a point that should be considered, I think the drawbacks by far outweight the benefits of the current regulation.

[–]boxxybebe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What an incredible write up

[–]3LiveAFTSOV1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

damn nigga you got the legendary 4th point

I didnt even know EC points went that high.

Great comment though.

Edit: TRP Legal Expert flair. Looks pretty. Congrats!

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

TRP is about figuring out what women really want

Sorry you just destroyed yourself there.

[–]rebbit_reddit3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah. He means understanding what they respond to sexually and being aware of hypergamy

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, and this may be an ignorant question or view as I'm not any kind of endorsed contributor

Fuck, mate, you need to become one. Look at the interesting discussion your question spawned. Are you grateful for the answers? Rework them into a post, crediting people where appropriate and if it's good, I'm gonna request a mod point for you. Deal?

[–]ohyeawellyousuck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I could do that. Let me get through all the responses, I'll work something up, and we'll see if I can make it good haha. Thanks man!

[–]Rian_Stone4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guns are dangerous, assume all guns are loaded.

"Hey bud, lets go to the range and fire off a few hundred rounds! Best time of our lives"

[–]AlexanderTheBread4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

> but how does the constant awalt, women are sluts, don't marry, relationships only work if they are plates, etc. vibe fit into red pill being positive to a relationship.

Solar radiation can and will kill you. But it's also what gives life to this whole entire planet, including you.

So, what I'm saying is that you gotta understand the underlying mechanics of how men and women work on fundamental levels and THEN build relationships on top of that shaky foundation. Those relationships have much better potential to be positive than those build on fantasy.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, and this may be an ignorant question or view as I'm not any kind of endorsed contributor, but how does the constant awalt, women are sluts, don't marry, relationships only work if they are plates, etc. vibe fit into red pill being positive to a relationship.

Because TRP isn't about having "positive" relationships (whatever that means) or making women feel good, or turning yourself into Super Pimp, or any of that shit. /u/LiveAFTSOV is wrong.

TRP isn't about ANYTHING.

TRP is a toolbox that you use to achieve your goals. Your goal is the "what is this about".

And no two men will have the same goal, nor the same route to getting there.

So if your goal is to train a woman to please you, you use the tools within TRP that are suitable to that goal and ignore the rest.

There is no underlying philosophy to TRP other than "apply the scientific method to methodically figure out what works" and "don't let people trick you into thinking that their goals are yours".

[–]ReallyCongestedNose-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Excuse me, but that is semantical. Also, it could be argued that red pill does improve relationships. (Especially because in order to be red pill, you must have / be seeking relations, other wise youre a MGTOW or Incel.)

So, because of that, I wouldn't say he's quite exactly "wrong."

Whether it's plates or LTR's or even marriage, the dynamic of the relationship is improved, or the relationship is abandoned for a better one. I don't believe this is deniable.

Perhaps, he may have said "TRP gives you you the tools to improve your relationships," but once again, I don't think he is exactly wrong.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you accept your dog might shit all over the floor, you still may get angry, but you under stand it's their nature.

Can the frog get mad at the scorpion who stings him? The frog should have known better it's the nature of the scorpion.

I also agree long term relationship can work. I love long term FWBs. The woman has to bring value.

I don't get angry at women for doing what they do. I laugh about it now. Look at my post "plate claimed she got raped"

[–]gbdoragnic-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

> Well, and this may be an ignorant question or view as I'm not any kind of endorsed contributor, but how does the constant awalt, women are sluts, don't marry, relationships only work if they are plates, etc.

It's our real feelings, we aren't trying to manipulate women if we don't respect you, we won't, you aren't relationship material .

> that no women should be worth your commitment as they will all cheat regardless of how much red pill you bring into the relationship.

Show me where red pill says that, Show me right now, -thank you

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very good points and also good to see you are seeking.

Relationships and redpill are fine, if anything it can simplify things so well that your objective in the relationship of self betterment will nurture one of the healthiest bonds you can form with a women given their inherent unconscious movements towards hypergammy.

The narrative of spinning plates is great for people who were not already emotionally invested into an LTR before being unplugged.

If you are unplugged,single and you choose to pursue exclusive relationships then I'm not convinced you fully realized your best self because you have had to take comfort in the feminized emperarive that sex should mean commitment, just be aware that is what you are trying to rationalize.

So, yes LTRs are fine, focus on you and enjoy shower sex with ya oneitis gf till she or you gets over the whole ordeal.

[–]ApexmanRP-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

"AWALT is affected by confirmation bias in this community"

I get your question but with this statement, you miss the point. The point is that all women ARE CAPABLE of the actions and behaviours we talk about.

And TRP focuses on these because like beta behaviours, most men have a block for accepting anything different.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Indeed, we are here to bring the love back

[–]Rian_Stone4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've recently started meeting and engaging with the 2nd wave MGTOW crew.

I'm starting to see, all the TRP hate is essentially hate for the "Turd Flinging Monkey" types.

Typical bloopie type women/soyguys, they think we all look alike. such racists

[–]3LiveAFTSOV1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I figured the muscles from lifting would be enough to differentiate. Time to get the pill tatted on our shoulders

[–]1Jaereth3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hate it when ignorant fools try to tell me I "hate" women

That's putting it mildly. I've heard that this is a place that teaches men to rape women.

[–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

💯 The red pill does not hate women at all. It is about going back to our roots about becoming masculine men, rather than the role reversal we often see today. Masculinity and femininity need each other.

[–]untetheredbachelor0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Unfortunately, when I tell people that I am single they assume that I hate women to some degree or am some kind of selfish bastard. No, I just can't find a woman who won't drop the fucking feminist act who hates all men and claims that everything is sexism, racism, etc. If I did, I would want to date her. However, what are the chances that such a woman would want to date me? Chances are there'd be many guys lining up already at such a woman, or she's already taken. This is why I'm single. Not because I "hate" women, but because I cannot find one suitable enough for my lifestyle. I'm sure no liberal woman would want to date a conservative, straight white male coming from a regular upbringing. Nor would I want to. Because that just screams of a potential #MeToo. I would date if I found a nice conservative woman. Hell, I'd even date a church girl before I would date a liberal woman.

[–]NevrEndr2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Get the fuck out of San Fran / Portland and go Southeast.

[–]untetheredbachelor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not in San Francisco or Portland, but that is generally what most logical minded people should do.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hate it when ignorant fools try to tell me I "hate" women

Standard shaming tactic because you've not shown them as much privilege as weaker men do

[–]TheReformist94-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don't deserve the effort men put in,purely because of their smug entitlement

[–]betabran[🍰] 93 points94 points  (6 children) | Copy

This is true but I don't think they are convinced, perhaps due to angry incels' outrage on this sub.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Senior members can only point the way and hope that betas and incels see the light. If Elliot Rodger had been red pilled he would have been cuddling people instead of shooting them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFeralRed9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

They can only see the finger.

“Its like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.”

Bruce Lee

[–]Gidanocitiahisyt5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I thought this post was a golden standard for what TRP should actually be about; improving the lives of both men and women. Unfortunately, many people that come to TRP will never see that side of it, because their first impression of this community will be of us comparing women to literal shit.

[–]TheRedPike 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Dont hotlink any sub, including ours. Use

[–]Bear-With-Bit72 points73 points  (4 children) | Copy

When you're beta, bitter and sexless, all you can see is Men vs Women.

But when you're alpha, happy and sex-ful, it's really just Me vs Me, or rather Me for Me.

Work on yourself, then the world --including yourself-- will see you as the prize.

[–]room_303 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

will see you as the prize

That 'prize' just so happens to need to dress the 'right' way, be 'amusing/interesting' and get rejected with honor, walk up to women like a clown and ask for her number and go through a list of commands in the hope she lets you kiss her.

Hardly what a prize does.

[–]Bear-With-Bit7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

When you're in good, muscular shape, you can wear a dirty tee shirt with holes and still get positive attention.

You refuse to believe there's something better. I hope you save yourself eventually. There's nothing in the dead-end you're living in right now.

[–]TheFireStarter5554 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Being attention whore is feminine trait.

[–]Bear-With-Bit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know, women have told me that.

[–]nofapZero88 points89 points  (8 children) | Copy

I was watching a recent interview with Jordan Peterson and he said something very much along these lines. He said he wants to help men find a mission and become better men and women should be thankful because their partner then isn't some loser in life.

[–]kurdishpower01 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

But Jordan Peterson is a 'women-hater' as well. ..

[–]throwaway2_5_5_2 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

What? No. He's says the same things RP says. Barely anymore or less. He also happens to be religious.

[–]AlexanderTheBread13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Come on man, he even put it in quotations. It's sarcasm.

[–]tallwheel4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Relax, he put "women-hater' in scare quotes.

[–]ContreversialViews2221 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

what the fuck has happened to this subreddit, a go a few days and we're getting bluepilled BS like this which was probably posted by some beta or a female troll talking about how redpillers have their back. This subreddit has fallen to the bluepilled cucks and i ain't staying to watch the shitshow unfold

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Red pill is so confusing, it seems like two types of people exist on this board, Wannabe PUA'S and manipulators and normal people.

[–]Onidramon11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

What the FUCK is going in here

Who paid you for this

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

The mods paid me, it helps them to root out incels and ban them

[–]Onidramon6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

So it's a deep infiltration and feminist shaming language mission, then. Should've known something limp-wristed like that would be the tradcons' chosen method of destruction for this place. Well you can go run and tell massa that it doesn't matter how many plantations they start up. The real travels with the real.

Sayonara, /u/88Shill88.

[–]uniqueusernamex11211 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

hmm i read the whole post..left a foul taste

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy

No amount of muscles will save you from divorce rape.

[–]Haruglory223 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think OP may be colorblind, as he described a blue pill simp

[–]nattlife-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a difference between red pill and "black" pill.

The red pill is about confronting the basic truths head on, and learn to deal with it through physical/mental training, practice, attitude adjustment and learning to frame.

The black pill is all about being completely abject about the uncomfortable truths and going off the deep end about it (like incels do)

The reason why I am saying this to you is because if you insinuate OP as "blue pill simp" because he was being optimistic in the face of uncomfortable truths, then you are towing the line off the deep end here.

If you want to mope and be all nihilistic about these truths, then you should stop posting in this subreddit and head over to incel community where they would be more than happy to suck the life soul out of you and make you one of them.

[–]Flintblood16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

This reads like a manifesto. All I will say is I go my own way on my own terms.

[–]bb-voyeur6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

So much truth about women in this. I’ll add that feminists make the women described above feel way worse about themselves than any dude.

[–]untetheredbachelor6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow. Frankly, I don't have liberal women's backs. They voted for hating men, why the fuck would I have their backs? Conservative women? Sure, but liberal women? Go fuck yourself. Feminists? Go fuck yourselves, I'm not saving them! Seriously. If you think you can save feminists you're as dumb as they are, frankly.

[–]Wolfoflulzstreet20 points21 points  (12 children) | Copy

This write-up is suspiciously light in the loafers for my taste and if you’re going to corner my opinion I’m leaning towards MGTOW which is firmly in the old school RP camp of NGAF.

If the Red Pill is about “improving relationships” I’ll show myself out. RP used to stand out as an Alpha roadmap and not some bullshit about improving relationships. Improve yourself, be a king at your profession, get laid.

Improve relationships? This post may be the exact moment RP jumped the shark.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Are you one of those "enjoy the decline" cucks?

[–]Wolfoflulzstreet3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Unlike yourself I’m not supporting some emotional rock for women. The original RP was about strengthening the male experience specifically in simply getting laid more. To live a Red Pill life was to improve yourself. Period.

Anyone “enjoying the decline” is someone settling for this blue pill infiltration calling for improving relationships. I’ve already left the group so you can peddle your BP agenda elsewhere.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Lol end your life. I asked you one question. Leave if you're gonna leave.

[–]Wolfoflulzstreet0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It’s not my problem if you haven’t the aptitude to understand what I said or what is being done to RP. You’re calling me cucked? Hilarious. Best of luck to you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Oh no, someone suggested that maybe we should stop treating chicks like disposable jizzrags if we want them to act less bitter! This sub is officially cucked!

Be a man of conviction. Do what you said you were gonna do and leave the sub.

[–]Wolfoflulzstreet0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I did. You’re the one continuing this conversation. Thank you for the quote.

[–]sandal_on20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Op, your post is an excellent post opening up the path to cuckolding and the poisioning in the western society.

Just stop. You're openly demonstrating weakness. Do you want society's best? Mind you I saud society's not women. If so, then stop pandering and conveying anything positive to other people. That's huge weakness and opens the door to end up being cucked, humiliated and destroyed.

As long as the redpill remains coldly logical and reality based, it will survive and move on under all difficulty. That's not an issue and the issue is that not accepting that society for the most part will be awful because most humans simply chooses to be illogical.

Screw what women and everyone thinks. Think for yourself, why do you even pander to people who doesn't even use simple logic? Are you seriously trying to get their "ok" or even their support from people knowingly using illogical?

Just think of that for a second. And then you will realize how stupid this is.

We don't need anyone. As long as as the redpill remains logical and reality based, things will be fine. But as soon as anyone tries to spread a good picture of the redpill to people who knowingly use illogical, then you open up the gates for simps and women to infiltrate and destroy this community, or worse, divide the redpill.

[–]sourmonkeytroll33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

White knights of TRP unite.

[–]FalconWrite10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

I treated myself to the misfortune of scanning this thread, seeing the critical replies to the main post and OP's replies to them, did some additional homework, and it pains me to have the writing on the wall for this sub finally confirmed.

u/88Will88, you are significantly more annoying than a garden variety white knight. You are a white knight who erroneously calls himself redpilled and uses it as some kind of weird cyber-PUA tool. You seek validation from anonymous women online with zero self awareness, directly qualify yourself to them while throwing other TRP subscribers under the bus on female-targeted subs, and even try qualifying yourself to men here with cringeworthy ihavesex-tier comments as if it makes your 4th-wave feminism talking points more logically valid and less contradictory to the sidebar.

If that weren't good enough, you use the exact same shaming language that feminists do when challenged and cry out to the mods with appeals to resolve your conflicts for you when you have no counterpoint. We are all seeing this. It's not hidden. It's public. You disrespect your own tag with your tomfoolery and the fact that you even have it diminishes this sub's credibility by a tragically dire degree. You can gorge yourself on bluepill tradcon upvotes here until the cows come home, but we'll be talking the last uncucked slice of this subreddit away with us. Enjoy disintegration.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear22213 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

We know that less attractive, very angry women have invented a horrible movement to try and turn women into men.

That has sadly spilled over and infected once attractive and feminine girls, spoiling them like a plague. and so the SMP gets smaller and their egos gets larger. But this is good for the true RP man, for he can be the breath of fresh air these girls so desperately crave to restore them to their true selves, and bring happiness to both parties.

[–]GucciGabz9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've left procrastinating on the redpill reddit for a few months now I've came back to read new stuff and I see this type of blue-pill cucked bullshit posts, this is fucking sad for me and for everyone else who knew how good this subreddit used to be.

[–]zola925 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

A lot of your statement reads like it's only women who do wrong and men are just calmly there to correct them. The part where it says a good red pill man will withdraw from HER until SHE is calm. Like only the women could instigate trouble. Regardless of your intentions or not, some of this reads like you're putting men forward as the superior gender as opposed to men and women being equal with their own unique traits between them.

[–]Greenmarbles26 points27 points  (10 children) | Copy

What a load of faggotry.

A bunch of pandering idiots and groupthink to ward off anyone who disagrees.

Pretending you are positive or alpha shouldnt include bringing down other men. But thats all i see here.

Once again the blind are leading the blind and then later wonder why theres so little substance around here.

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

But thats all i see here.

Describe in detail how you see that and how I would make that same conclusion. Make sure you properly cite.

We don't wave our dicks at each other. We make arguments. Make one or you are on the next train.

Tick tock.

[–]Greenmarbles10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

Turns out i was wrong. I thought the most upvoted comment was calling people who hate women ignorant fools. Turns out he was talking about himself.

I will say this also. I dont give a fuck if you do ban me. Your authority is fake, so fuck off pissant

[–]modTheRedPike8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

All authority is fake. It's a malleable agreement that suits the moment. On the other hand, power is real.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

All authority is fake. It's a malleable agreement that suits the moment. On the other hand, power is real.

Damn, you rekt him with knowledge.

He doesn't give a fuck because he knows he loves and is addicted to this sub.

if you ban him, he will return with an alt account, like many of these complaining sperges do.

[–]Pluglord2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I thought the most upvoted comment was calling people who hate women ignorant fools.

As they are. Most dudes who hate women (incels etc) don't hate women because of their actions, they hate women because they aren't fucking any. Those guys aren't to be grouped in with TRP suscribers.

Pretending you are positive or alpha shouldnt include bringing down other men. But that's all I see here

Another user made a comment here that should give you an exact explanation of why all you see here is "bringing down other men"....... Here: "When you're beta, bitter and sexless, all you can see is Men vs Women."

And even if this post was to shoot down incels or mgtwos or whoever, men aren't women. We don't uplift each other by massaging each others' pussies. Pointing out that a guy is a faggot for whining and not taking control over his life situation is the ideal way to help him.

Then later wonder why theres so little substance around here.

There's little substance around here because this sub is becoming filled with guys like you who think TRP is a mancave where we jack each other off and discuss our frustrations. This is a quality post.

[–]Greenmarbles0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Most men who hate women can speak for themselves, i dont pretend to care why, and i dont believe you since your a nobody and sound like a moron trying to justify his lazy meathead behavior.

You can go regurgitate the same bullshit everyone around here says that calling people pussies or faggots is helping, its your life.

You really found your audience here. Ever wonder why every thread in order to talk about women in here has some shitty sales pitch title. Because its all fake. Getting laid, no your getting gamed by guys who need to stroke their own egos.

I only stick around to listen to the older guys who turned it around and thats it. But i will continue to call out you fake fucks when i can.

[–]Pluglord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I only stick around to listen to the older guys who turned it around and thats it.

Yeah, because you're obviously not here to try to drill some vagina. You're to scared to even talk to women.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought the most upvoted comment was calling people who hate women ignorant fools.

I was, and still am.

Turns out he was talking about himself.

Nah, I was talking about people like you, or others who say "The Red Pill is about misogyny, rape, and hating women!!"

Those are ignorant fools. So no, I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about you.

We love woman.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Mods please ban this faggot

[–]dachyals 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

What a chucked post. unsubscribed

[–]CharacterBorder18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

Attention all women - Don’t worry, the men of the Red Pill have your backs

"Umm thank you sweetie" replied all women and got back to chatting with their lovers who just happen to be men who don't give a flying fuck about them, their happiness and their rights (and I'm not implying that there's something wrong with that).

OP isn't quite right, although he raises a some good points. Not gonna lie to strangers on the Internet, I'm still struggling with women. But I think I've been around them (or rather people in general) long enough to know that while the OP's message is more or less alright, his sentiment is delusional.

Women don't care about you having their back because you're not special and replaceable.

Women haven't been done wrong by feminism because they enjoy short-term pleasures.

Women don't care about your love because love is exciting when it's given away, not received.

Most of us was "having women's backs" at some point and the luckiest ended up in Manosphere while the rest are slowly drinking themselves to death being stuck in a soul-devouring situations without even realizing it.

You can replace "women" with "people" and these statements will still hold true. That's life, everybody is looking out for what they perceive as their own best interests and deep down don't care about others. With that in mind, OP's attempt to proclaim his "care" and "love" for women (who will stab him at the back the moment it suits them, like most of men) is a bit silly and frankly borders feel-good white-knighting in a world where homo homini lupus est. Women aren't your enemies but they aren't your friends either and they don't want to be.

There's a great comment by ColdIceZero addressing that point with way more detail and insight.

[–]brother_dreadly4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed, sir.

Saying things such as "I've got your back, women!" is the same sort of rhetoric/language utilized by male feminists ... who are merely begging for a "cookie." Being a smarter "dog," but still begging for the same "cookie" does not appeal to me. It's not a 100% equivalency, of course, this I understand -- however, it's unsettling to think that TRP might turn into Tradcon v2.0.

Additionally, why attempt to set a narrative for a community of men who are more or less here to share in learning the nature of women, and the male-female dynamic?

Why make yourself a better utility/appliance for a broken system?

[–]ComradeDurdenTRP2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women aren't your enemies but they aren't your friends either and they don't want to be

This part is crucial and could've easily been the main point of a well-written, thought-provoking post submitted by IllimitableMan, Rollo Tomassi, or any other TRP vanguard back around 2013-2014.

TheRedPill is not a single individual; if it were, though, it would suffer from a severe case of manic depression. There are ample pointless anger phase posts about how all women are cold, manipulative whores that only serve to ameliorate the OP's frustrations and don't offer any useful advise. But then the pendulum swings the other way and you get more tradcon submissions like this one. "Hey, ladies! Disregard the soyboys and forget all this feminist claptrap. We TRP men are here to treat you like you want to be truly treated!"

Needless to say, a more objective, logical stance between the two is required. "This is how most men are. This is how most women are. In fact, here's how the world truly works vs. what you've been led to believe..."

Women are not strong and independent individualists who have the potential to radically change the world like feminism would have us believe. But they're also not (entirely) helpless and (definitely not) innocent little damsels who need the guidance and stewardship of a dominant alpha male to be happy.

They would certainly benefit from it, sure. But it doesn't mean they'd fully grasp or appreciate all the work the man is doing to provide them with a better quality of life

Accept female nature for what it is. But don't ever become a white-knight, even if you consider yourself to be a more masculine 'alpha' version of him

[–]femalebodyinspect0076 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

At this point i have no clue what is going on here

[–]heheRue11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

You completely lost me, when you started talking about the pay gap.

[–]Slaide13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Only blue pill pussies and retarded feminists believe in the pay gap.

[–]DayGameChirality15 points16 points  (5 children) | Copy

I will repeat it, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING FEMININE.

Unless it is a man who is feminine, or a woman that is masculine?..

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

A man who is "feminine" would be "effeminate". So no "Feminine" is not an adjective that should be applied to a man.

[–]DayGameChirality-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's a derogatory term though. Cannot there be balance? I highly doubt world would turn its wheels if every man was 100% masculine and every woman 100% feminine. That'd be boring and predictable as fuck.

What is a woman then that is masculine?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

if every man was 100% masculine

I dunno...I think I'm in the high-90s myself....

[–]blindface8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is only the difference between WHITE women and white men. White women earn more than black men, black women, hispanic men, hispanic women, native american men and native american women. There is no movement by white women to ensure that black or hispanic people of both genders earn as much as they do.

What is this trash? Haven't we done enough to dismantle the wage gap myth? You really ought to listen to Thomas Sowell.

The only gap is that between older generations and younger ones, which makes sense. Most people end up being in the top 20% at some point in their lives, if they can hold down a job and a family.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or now that Dr. Sowell is retired, his colleague Dr. Walter Wiliams.

[–]Ipride36211 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

All I hear is Cypher here: “Why oh why didn’t I take the Blue Pill?”

The Red Pill isn’t about saving women or relationships. It’s about exposing feminism for its hypocrisy and reinstating traditional, 10 millennia old society.

This is a very well written Whiteknight post.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

I am no whiteknight, I am a red pill man. I fuck women (a lot of them) and I have a lot of women in my life. They look up to me and respect me. When you are a strong man you have no need to fear women, and no need to whiteknight.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are indeed some very supreme gentlemen.

wage gap

How you know this is a feminist typing.

[–]3whatsthisgarg16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

all true, and always good to see a positive post on here

and also: HEY JACKASSES: do a command-F alpha on this page. You won't find the word alpha in the post.

There are no alphas. There are alpha qualities and traits.

[–]Rian_Stone5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

There are alpha qualities and traits.

insight so nice, just had to say it twice

[–]3whatsthisgarg1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Alpha and beta aren't nouns, they are adjectives. This is a Sisyphian battle on here. Are you going to make the next post saying this or who is?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I disagree. Women are better off growing up and acting like adults. When they by and large refuse to do so, they are better off with a “daddy” (red pill) figure to manage their various immaturities.

[–]get-tilted 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

I think the real issue is, as many in this thread have pointed out, TRP is too similar to some of the shit going on in the Incel subs, to the point where it looks the same.

Incels and TRPers have very similar views on hypergamy and the works, but they separate at a very big point: how you’re supposed to deal with it.

TRP sees it as something to take advantage of. It essentially says if you maximize your SMV, take care of yourself both physically and mentally, and maintain a strong frame, you WILL become an alpha male. TRP is about making men better to maximize their value to both the people around them and theirselves.

Incels take a very hopeless approach. They think “well, if I wasn’t born in the top 10%, I’ll never be there. So, what’s the point in working hard?” They tend to give up, and live a very sad, nihilistic life.

I see it as very similar to the difference between a positive and negative outlook on nihilism. People who are positive and nihilistic, in a sense, will think “hey, if nothing means anything, then I might as well minimize the struggles of myself and enjoy my life,” while the more cynical of the bunch will think “if nothing means anything, then why keep living?”

It’s only something that someone who has a deep interest and understanding of TRP will understand, and it’s a god damn shame it’s that way. TRP is truly for the betterment of the modern day man and, by that token, the modern day woman.

We, as a society, need more strong men who can lead. We also need masculinity in it’s purest form if we want to succeed as a race. The fact is, children who don’t have a father growing up are bound to be beyond fucked up. In some ways, TRP can replace that “need” for a father. It teaches men what a man SHOULD be. It teaches men what success really looks like. It teaches men everything a father would teach and more.

In the end, it’s a god damn shame that TRP is vindicated as it is. But I’m also very glad the masculine nature of men prevails over those barriers to becoming a Red Pilled, successful man.

[–]ghostintheweedgarden0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Did you mean the word vindicated?

[–]get-tilted0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I should have used that

[–]derektwerd0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I think he meant vilified.

Vilify - speak or write about in an abusively disparaging manner.

[–]ghostintheweedgarden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know. I was kinda just being a jerk because I was drunk.

[–]goonga_galoonga4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Not sure I like the "he walks away from all argument" line. True for sure if the argument is bs, but I mean there are plenty of times when reasonable people have disagreements. Seems like a frame-less response to walk away from "all arguments". Just need to keep a level head is all, assuming the disagreement has merit in the first place.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Arguing is mostly pointless. Unless there is a judge, jury or court of public opinion, it universally changes nothing. People have to experience what it is you experienced for them to see things your way. Talking it at them don't work. If you want people to believe you, or better yet follow you, you have to SHOW them so they want to do it.

You know how you do this with women? Become attractive....

[–]TheIcePill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How to be successful with women

Step 1: Be attractive

Step 2: Don't be unattractive

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

  • “when reasonable people have disagreements”

Women are not reasonable, they are emotional. Trying to calm a woman down with reason has the same effect as attempting to bathe a cat. If she is trying to start an argument one or both of two things are happening. First, she is under the effect of one of her emotional tides, secondly she is trying to get you to raise your voice so she can drag the whole discussion down to an emotional level where she will completely own you. DON’T ARGUE WITH WOMEN

[–]goonga_galoonga1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Come on, man. I think at least 90% of the time you're exactly right. But to completely dismiss another person's argument before you've even heard its premise laid out seems like an immature and emotional response - one you'd associate with an emotional female, really. This implies you're completely unwilling to accept that you might actually not be in the right, and that's just delusional.

Hear her argument, then walk away if it's typical bullshit. But only for this reason.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

You are trying to drag this down and get emotional level and you are not listening. I did not say to ignore someone who is talking reasonably, I said not to argue, there is a massive difference.

[–]jm510 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The word argument can have different meanings. Best not to use it without context imo.

Emotional shouting matches can be labeled as drama. Respectful discussions of opposing points of view are disagreements.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Trp is about self improvement and creating the life you want to live. It has empowered me to have a very strong and fulfilling relationship, I do my best to lead and provide support for my partner because it makes us both happy.

Without TRP I would still be fat, miserable, and lead an unfulfilling life.

[–]Librehombre1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So TRP is about love because it allowed you to build a nest.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd say so. I found this sub pretty depressed, and there's a lot of anger here, but there's also a Lot of self help and advice on how to be a man: That's the gold.

[–]DeusVultRightNow 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Women are nurturing, supportive and caring? What century are you living in mate?

[–]Rian_Stone5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men are strong and stoic. He's using potential/aspirational language, not descriptive

[–]gbdoragnic6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

one thing I'm realizing as I become more connected is the red pill doesn't exists because of men, it exists because of women, We are filling a need that they have, otherwise we wouldn't exist, part of becoming connected means you have value and a purpose for this energy to exists, it would die out if there wasn't a need.

Women want us to win, but they need us to love ourselves first, value ourselves, and become strong because they don't want us to break on them

Feminism is dangerous because it traps a women in her ego, if you understand people you will realize feminism helps abusers because it makes it not their fault, it not her fault she went back to the same dude 5 times who broke her nose, it is the man fault, he is controlling, he is playing tricks with your mind, no bitch you want to play those same tricks he just beat you at your own game, you played yourself, the same with nice guys, they play themselves with ego.

[–]Aldebaran3333 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frame Game Radio is an excellent deeply red pilled channel run by a lawyer who teaches how to hold frame.

[–]whiskyjeezus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is for beginners. No one whos been on here for more than a few weeks needs or wants to read this

[–]NormalAndy4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't improve the relationship, just improve yourself.

[–]Bumpsidedriver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The relationship is her job

[–]graffix13 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

Go home OP, you're Soy Drunk.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Mods please ban this faggot

[–]graffix13 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Men should go RP to better themselves. The women will come.

Your post is begging for female validation because "you're a strong manly man!"

You don't need a woman to make you happy. They are merely there to compliment you.

You have much to learn, young one.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

Red pill men understand that women have been tricked and lied to. We know that less attractive, very angry women have invented a horrible movement to try and turn women into men.

Indeed, we do

The truth is women cannot beat men in a fight like they show in the movies.

She's a cop! She's a chick! She roundhouse kicks!

That works right up until she runs into the overhand right of the Patriarchy.

Men of the red pill know that most women want to feel accepted and happy for BEING FEMININE.

When I set expectations for new girls, i.e. that they are going to be soft and feminine, and dress like girls for me, and cut out the bullshit, it's like watching them blossom right in front of me.

When feminists talk about a wage gap they only talk about the gap between white women and white men. They say that women earn 81 cents for every dollar a man earns. This is only the difference between WHITE women and white men. White women earn more than black men, black women, hispanic men, hispanic women. There is no movement by white women to ensure that black or hispanic people of both genders earn as much as they do. In reality the top 4 earners in the USA as a class are asian men, then white men, then asian women, then white women. Why aren’t white women pointing fingers at Asian women or asian men who both earn more than them?

Two reasons:

A. Asian men are invisible to white women. "NOWAG" happens so often that we have a name for it: NOWAG. And no I don't care about anyone's cousin Fong who totally slays white bitches. Good for him, he made himself exceptional.

B. Women fall for the Apex Fallacy Every.Gawddam.Time. "But the CEO makes a bajillion times what a cashier makes! No fair!" Well, yes because he's the CEO. And what do we know about CEOs? They tend to be tall white guys, except when they are women whose careers have been guided by white guys who then write books full of shit advice or when they are total frauds. Never trust a woman with a sclera show. It's a thing.

Feminism is the biggest lie of the modern era, it is really just a power grab

Feminism is a trade union for fugly women. Srsly. And it has some dangerous side-effects. That shit is why you don't send your attractive 18 year old daughter to Berkeley to get the mind virus.

[–]dthlist1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy


You think this is because asian men are skinny asocial nerds or because of genetic hardcoding?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think both of those are factors - Asian men are going to be shorter on the whole and women select for height without mercy, plus their rep in the west is hard-working and law-abiding and, well, that doesn't exactly get women wet.

[–]Rian_Stone0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I think that was partially a hobbling, malnutrition and other environmental factors.

The Gen Z has a ton of taller Asian dudes, lot of the same soybrain problems, granted, it may be self selecting for those who come to Canada could afford to avoid all the shitty parenting

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, but on average they're not going to be taller than white or black western guys. Plus, when guys say, "Why do {ethnicity goes here} guys not do well with women?" what they really mean is "Why can't {ethnic} guys get hot white girls?"

The answer to that is, outside of "for realz" Alphas, hot chicks get to pick, and Cousin Fong is going to have some extra hurdles to get over, because that's how shit it.

[–]Rian_Stone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

ah yeah, the 'how do i get hot blondes' guys

they don't even want the girls, they want the status symbol. Nothing says bhupinder made it like a blond on his arm

[–]room_3038 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Fuck all this, women will end up using your kindness and obliterate you. mgtow baby.

[–]abudun794 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good thing, atually, that we have all these movements like MGTOW.

In my days, people just said "Damn, I can't take this any longer" and bought themselfes a nice rope, because they were ashmed, not proud.

[–]lookoutitscaleb1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

My best friend is part of a whole family of firefighters. They told me a story about a woman who didn't have to pass the physical part of the test to become a firefighter. The station needed more women to hit a quota. The woman wasn't strong enough to pass the physical part. She didn't meet the necessary qualifications to fill the job she was applying for and was given a pass due to her gender.

Fastforward to a fire. In the fire she tried to carry someone out. She wasn't strong enough and killed herself and the person trapped. There is a reason those tests are there. It isn't to disqualify someone, it is to ensure safety and that the people qualified for the job have the position.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

If this story is true can you find a link. There must be a newspaper article or mention in the media about it.

[–]lookoutitscaleb-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

We live in a pretty small town. I'll ask them to see.

There's also a lady who is a firefighter and when all the firefighters hang out the guys joke "hope I we don't get stuck with her". It's all fun and games, but they're serious and she knows too and will joke along. It's not pier pressure joking either it's her being "yeah I sure did get one over on them. Why do you think I always do "x" and not "y", etc"

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

They say that women earn 81 cents for every dollar a man earns

This is because women do 25 percent less work. The pay gap myth has long since been proven to be due to women not being in the workplace and choosing lower paid careers when they are.

Women in their 20's earn more money than men in their 20's when compared doing comparable jobs. Noone talks about this.

Women are less productive than men (google the productivity gap for more info). Noone talks about this.

Don’t worry, the men of the Red Pill have your backs

Well, except we've thrown out commitment, white knighting, protecting women from their own choices, ignoring their pasts and raising the union of them with other men.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

The fact that the gender pay gap is a myth has been known since Esther Vilar and Warren Farrell told everyone in the 70s. It has been screamed from the rooftop and people like Milo, Jordan Peterson and Gavin McInnes mention it in every interview on every major media outlet. Still it persists, still people believe it. So I chose to attack the myth on another front. That way even if feminists, SJWs and manginas talk about their unicorn, we can point out that their precious unicorn is a racist cunt.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Still it persists, still people believe it

Yeah, Obama reiterated it as 77%.

Victimhood -> special treatment. Even if it's false. But only for women.

[–]tilnewstuff4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Many good points, but no woman will be convinced when you say things like:

Feminism is the biggest lie of the modern era, it is really just a power grab and a cash cow for the media. Feminism claims to stand against sexism and racism when they are guilty of stereotyping, racism and misandry against white men. All feminists are by definition hypocrites

American women think of feminism is a religion; a holy creed. When you say stuff like that it's about convincing as an atheist going to a Christian and saying "Pfft, we all know God doesn't exist, stop believing that stupid stuff".

You have to be more nuanced and more subtle if you want to argue that point.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

If I posted this in a sub populated by females my language would be slightly different but the message would remain the same. This was written for men

[–]ApexmanRP-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post! I would say, if you did publish it elsewhere, don't change the language. You are a man, you use the language you use, its how men write. Own it.

[–]abudun793 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

TL;DR Men are just what a woman need. To bad they don't just get it, because they're women.

[–]stylesm114 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post, i think this sub just gets a bad rep from heartbroken dudes that can't let go of the reason why they found this place

[–]Nergaal3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Where is the undeleted version?

[–]patrixxxx4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

New subscriber. I just wanted to say that this is one of the best things I’ve read on Reddit. Ever.

Let’s stop falling for the Elites psyops and cultural engineering. Because what do they want? More for themselves and less for you and even less OF you!

What was women's lib? A campaign with the objective to get women into the workforce and thus increase the wage slavery. I love women and I love that they are good at things I’m less good at. Like taking care of a home and children. I’m also proud of my capabilities as a man.

And now that they have successfully increased wage slavery, they are going for our natural desire to make families. Less OF you! I do not mind homosexuality. I think anyone should be free to do whatever they like as long as it’s not hurting anyone. What I DO mind however is to make it a hip and normal thing. Tolerance? YES. Turning gay into something more normal than heterosexuality and encouraging mutilating sex change operations? NO.

Divide and conquer, that’s the game. As long as we have differences between sex, race, politics, ideology, poor/rich, we will never stop fighting amongst each other and look UP. Up at those who control our monetary system, media and institutions with the objective to gradually remove all private ownership and independence. They want us helpless and in slavery and have worked for centuries to accomplish that. But you know what. Knowledge is not only power. It is also freedom. To see your mental prison is to escape it.

Peace and may reason prevail.

[–]meowgoesdog1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

At first glance they are scared of redpilling men because the true gain from having a red pilled male is only achievable through sacrifice on their part

To have a man with strong frame and actual meaningful and beneficial purpose in life that he puts above everything else means that you will NOT have the leverage you dream of, you will not be able to get away with being childish or stupid in ur act because that man will not give in to ur bullshit or give any second chances

It is why they like to paint us like misogynist, because the truth is they must lose something to gain in those sort of relationships, it is like getting some sort of superpower but only at the cost of having to grow up and be responsible (rip uncle ben), not everyone is ready/mature enough for something like that

[–]didudidule1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would like to see reaction to this topic on subreddits that are against TRP

[–]Fritz_Frauenraub1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

If feminists understood how domestic violence is a result of beta rage their minds would be blown.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then they would have to admit the enter relationships with suboptimal genetic material for the sake of resource extraction and that would make them feel gross.

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most women do not want to act, dress and speak like men, they are perfectly happy to be women, and what is wrong with that?

what I don't understand is, what is with the race to be a man. why are all women now short haired with tattoos man? what happened to femininity?

[–]newName5434560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When feminists talk about a wage gap they only talk about the gap between white women and white men


They talk about gap in average earning throughout population, not controlling for various issues, like jobs performed, work experience, working hours, etc. When you control for those, gap "magically" shrinks. But it's inconvenient to assumption there must be some sort "institutionalized sexism" that makes them earn less.

Also, red pill would prevent rapes - strong (physically and mentally) guys don't consider that as an option, as they can get laid anyways. Worry about incels instead.

[–]Doctor-Struggles0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Why how and when has the redpill become softpill or purplepill? I feel redpill has become soft to women. I cannot discuss some issues any longer without wanring or ban. I have to go to the blackpill side. Why is that?

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

My post is an assault on feminism and bait for incels and bloopers who like to indulge in outrage. Incels and bloopers have no place here. You will note the post was heavily upvoted. Uncle Vasily agreed with and understood the post. If you think that senior members do not understand women and red pill theory it is most likely that it is you who are mistaken. If you chose the black pill you damn yourself to a meaningless and bitter existence. Why not aspire to something rather than rage quit like you are playing a video game?

[–]Doctor-Struggles1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Your 6th alinea.

You do understand with a woman being perfectly happy how she is means she is also happy acting upon her hypergamy instinct. Being a sexually lucid whore actually.

I agree feminists are creeps.

Redpill started as a bitter pill. Suggesting it is a pil for self-improvement is a bit of a cope. Redpill understands it has to deal with the pittfalls of female nature forever and does so. You will never be compmetely free from being and acting a bit bitter towards women.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

The red pill is a toolbox, that is all. It is sexual strategy, quitting the game is not sexual strategy. Hating women is not sexual strategy. Understanding and accepting hypergamy is essential. Most female mammals are hypergamous. The female sperm whale swims along while the males fight for the right to mate with her. Do you hate the female whale? It is time to put aside childish things and become a man

[–]Doctor-Struggles0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I believe the incels never get any empathy for how bad they feel. So it is much harder for them to move foward and past grief they are the lesser choice.

Try to deny the empathy to somene who lost someone. See how that person acts. He/she will repeat over and over the fact a loved one died. And if you keep denying any su oathy. They will keep repeating and become resentful. Tbis is exactly what the gaslighthing normies do to incels. It's like they love to keep incels in the state their in. Instead of really helping.

You become man through achievement of little successes that builds your confidence. Without it you won't fly. Tell them to just man up won't work.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

If a lack of masculinity is the problem then I fail to see how coddling someone and encouraging feminine behaviour is going to help. This is the red pill, sexual strategy, it is not a cuddle party. If someone is weak you cannot help them by telling them to stay away from the gym and sulk.

[–]Doctor-Struggles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sympathy first. Then after their feelings of resentment gets obsolved and think it's alright. They could feel ready to gym.

If you try the shit the IT pulls on braincels, and do that to truefemcels" which is a joke compared to male inceldom. You get banned for gaslighting the fragile female egos. Who bitch and cat all the time anyway. If you ask me they are the ones who should man up. they have plenty of choices.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What happened to this post?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All relevant women I know, from mother, grandmother, lovergirls, and (some) female friends agree with red pill truths.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Women are much better off with men who hold frame completely. A true red pill man will not argue, fight with or strike a woman. She knows that he walks away from all arguments and withdraws all affection until she is calm. He is the rock upon which her emotions break.

Disagree. A man must say what he dislikes and speak up when his interests are stepped on by others. Also, sometimes its necessary to hit women too.

[–]Librehombre 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

In muslim countries that is OK.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

And muslim women are most obedient compared to western ones. So the muslims must be doing something right.

[–]Librehombre 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

I dont like islam, but that doesnt mean you are not right about this subject.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First rule of Red Pill is not talking about Red Pill, but there are some really good talking points here that warrant paraphrasing when yer boys wanna “spew the blue.”

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are like weapons; they're all interesting and fun to have but if you drop your guard, and trip and fall on one, you're gonna get hurt.

[–]saltyafrican-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can you share the stats on “Asian” men and women earning more? Asia is a continent so can you also explain which nationalities you are referring to specifically?

[–]adonis8 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Everyone knows what he's saying is true, including you. This is just pettifoggery.

[–]saltyafrican0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Unlike you I don't believe everything I read and can form my own opinions

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Unfortunately the sub will always have a bad rep, despite many of these bullet points holding the truth.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]omega_dawg93-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

nice write-up.

i recently told a good friend that femininity is VERY attractive and that men really love it... like women love masculinity.

this broad flipped out and went on this hate speech about how & why being feminine (in today's world) is bad.

some are lost... you can't reason with them.

[–]DeontologicalSanders-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy


Lol. Such a thoroughly-weaponized and yet nonsensical term.

Seriously, what the fuck men actually hate women? Sure some men might be frustrated, yes even angry at women? But hate? Seething, desire-to-destroy-and-humiliate hatred? It's laughable bullshit.

We literally depend upon women for the continuation of the species. The capacity to express any malice or violence toward women has been so thoroughly bred out of men over the ages that we gang up and beat the shit out of a man who hits a woman, even if we've never met her before. Men who are here aren't looking for an outlet for hatred or malice; men don't seek emotional "outlets". We seek solutions. We seek a fix for unrequited desire. A need for acceptance, and yes, validation from women. It's very possible to be frustrated and even resentful of women because of that unfulfilled desire. But hateful? No.

One cannot truly hate something while desiring it simultaneously.

The only real misogyny comes secondhand, from the collective voices of the chubby, blue-haired masses, whose response to rejection from the men they desire is never to look inward and improve, but to bleat long and loud, "Men are evil. Reject everything they have built for you, for it will only keep you down. Pretend you have a penis, and this will solve all of your problems."

[–]H42 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

If you replaced every "red pill man" with "Real Man", this could be posted anywhere, with good effect: wet pussies and full agreement, backed by female desire and longing.

[–]Luckylancer96-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

This would only trigger them.

[–]SILENTSAM69-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I do often laugh at the stuff here obviously written by an angry young guy. I've always seen this as a place to remind me of how to keep my marriage healthy. TRP advice may be about getting laid for some, but it is about having the power to make my life fulfilling for me.

Life means different things to different people. I can't help but see being the patriarch of a household as the ultimate goal since not reproducing means wasting ones life.

Some might tell me I am wrong. The same idiots often complain about immigration. You know how to replace a population that doesn't breed?

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The same idiots often complain about immigration. You know how to replace a population that doesn't breed?

With robots.

The Pill 3.0: some day the human race will change and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

[–]TheIcePill-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

One day robots will replace u too.

[–]Bengalsturntup2855-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's a mighty mighty good man!!! Whooo

[–]AriesAsF-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fantastic twist on the constant negativity and toxicity that seems to breed in this forum. The few gem posts like this are why I come here, and why I stay. Redpill is about rational observation and improvement. End of story.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Injections of Peterson in there. Lovely to read

[–]Pastelitomaracucho-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well for all the good things you say, there's also of angry frustrated dudes that hate women because they can't understand them, let alone fuck them.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post, but the wage gap is demonstrably false when you control for a variety of other variables (occupation, married vs single (which could mean previously married) vs never married, time taken off to have and raise children, etc.

[–]Winterwolf98-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a solid post, in my view this is what redpill is all about.

AWALT is more of a precaution than a rule in my experience, it's more like all women are PRONE to be like that. It's like all lions in the wild might try to kill you, then you teach newbies that All lions are like that. That doesn't mean they can't be made friends with. Red pill is like the manual for women. Yes AWALT, but you can change that with the right tool box. That's TRP.

[–]CoraliePeach 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

Isn't it sad to see your followers have become so misguided by hate? The reason I found it so easy to make sense of the ideas in this sub was because it's so clear that it's not misogyny.

Feminism is just more propaganda designed to keep the poor and the middle class squabbling over scraps, while the rich people take everything without a fight. The two party duopoly has radicalized America into two extremes, rather than allowing us to find common ground. It's all about money and power, in the end. Whatever agenda is being spouted is just a front, something to make people angry so they'll fight with each other over meaningless bullshit.

Women are indisputably in power in western society right now. Feminism is designed to make us think that we're still being oppressed by men at every turn. It's just misandry in disguise. And it's sad, because it's causing women to fight for something that most of them probably don't even want. Yeah, it's great that women can join the fucking infantry, but on earth would you want to? The true inequality is purely economical.

And yet, these bitter members are calling you a bluepilled cuck, as they're blinded by hatred, and missing the point entirely. Reminds me of when braincels founder wrote his suicide note and was mocked and ignored by his own subreddit.

There's one member here in particular whose misogyny is just blinding. TRP is about coming to a mutually beneficial relationship between men and women. But because of the bitterness of its members, it becomes polluted as they try to find ways to explain why women have hurt them.

One thing I think you guys could work on is a better understanding and acceptance of the BDSM community, and less slutshaming. Sex is not inherently dirty, and the vagina is literally the cleanest part of a woman's body. Why should there be some arbitrary number of days before a woman can sleep with a man after meeting him without being a slut who's not worthy of marriage/LTR? That's nonsensical. And if you take a look at the dominance/submission community, you'll find some striking similarities. I think BDSM takes it much farther than TRP does. It goes beyond being an alpha male and a feminine female, into forming an incredibly powerful bond of trust between two people, especially once sadomasochism is involved. It's really a beautiful community, which I've seen written off as "degenerate hedonists" by members here. Parts of your rhetoric are fine with sexually liberated women, and then there are posts that contradict that. Like I said, I think it's the bitterness and hurt of the members showing through.

I really enjoy this sub, and this was an excellent post. Obviously, as a submissive, I enjoy dominant males (although I take it much farther into BDSM), and that's the whole point of this sub. I don't think that's what every woman wants, but I think it's safe to say that traditional gender roles exist for a reason.

[–]88Will88 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

I have never been with an attractive, heterosexual woman who did not like to be dominated. I am getting plenty of support from women on this post. It is really only sad little basement dwellers, blue pillers and incels who get upset at my posts. It is great for the mods because we get to ban the little cucks.

[–]CoraliePeach0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's probably because submissive women are naturally attracted to you lol. Why would a woman with any other preference even bother to give you a second glance? Subs can usually tell when a man is dominant, and Doms can usually tell even easier when a woman is submissive. So the dominant women avoid you and seek out submissive men for their partners. That doesnt mean they don't exist. I'm sure they're pretty uncommon though, compared to submissive women, and yes, a lot of them are lesbians or bisexual.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFeralRed2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Submissive men have no business being here on TRP,

and TRP men have absolutely no use for so-called dominant women.

So, while you are right, you're on the wrong sub.

[–]CoraliePeach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fair enough, as long as you acknowledge they exist. I'm not on the wrong sub, because I'm a submissive woman.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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