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Raising a glass to a fallen brother

by CasaDeFranco on /r/TheRedPill
13 August 2018 12:27 PM UTC

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This week a 29-year-old aviation bag thrower stole an empty commercial plane, performed a barrel roll before crashing in an apparent suicide. Audio traffic of his conversation with flight control reveals a young man frustrated with the world, but surprisingly relatable to all of us.

Richard Skyking Russel was married, well-liked by his colleagues, and was passionate about aviation and travelling the world.

Many men express a lack of purpose, where one has no choice but to serve the machine and be extracted for their worth before they are discarded. No personal achievement. No fulfilment. No feeling of even being alive. We all suffer under the crushing weight of industrialised life

We are all Richard.

If only for a brief, beautiful moment, Richard truly lived as a free man, living Man's oldest dream, completely, utterly free.

It's important for men to identify our disposable nature in this society, and take mitigated risks towards pursuing our passions.

Find small challenges that can be achieved through discipline and concurrently pursue broader life passions that change one's circumstances. If you are not moving forward, you are moving backwards.

Lessons Learned:

Pursue your passions above all else.

Live a life worth living.

Keep a journal.

Lift. Healthy body, healthy mind.

Talk to your friends, ask if they're okay.

If you're feeling the call of the void, speak to someone, be it a friend, a colleague, a moderator here.

Blue skies and tailwinds, Skyking.

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Title Raising a glass to a fallen brother
Author CasaDeFranco
Upvotes 1094
Comments 223
Date 13 August 2018 12:27 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/51904
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/96xvrp/raising_a_glass_to_a_fallen_brother/
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0 upvotesTheRedPike1 year ago

I would like to point out that it's ok to recognize the frustration of this person and how it relates to all of us, while disapproving of what he specifically did. Keep the moralizing finger holstered, please.

EDIT: Ok, I'm done with the race baiting. Knock it the fuck off. Locking this now.

511 upvotesCHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK1 year ago

NYT cut out audio where he said he couldn't get a job as a pilot since he was a white man (they have tough minority and feminist quotas I've heard)



"Do you think if i land this successfully, uh they'll give me a job as a Pilot?"

"Uh I think they would give you a job doing anything if you can pull this off."

"Yeah right! Nah I'm a White guy."

Meanwhile in the NYT article (google) they completely clipped out the "Nah I'm a White guy" comment from the audio.

"Do you think if i land this successfully, uh they'll give me a job as a Pilot?"

"Uh I think they would give you a job doing anything if you can pull this off."

"Yeah right!"

audio cuts.

61 upvotes-Fidelio-1 year ago

Fuck. I listened to a 30 minute version of this without that audio cut. Thanks for sharing this.

370 upvotescivilizedfrog1 year ago

Even in the face of death, he gave a parting shot to affirmative action.

He is going heaven. CONFIRMED

12 upvotesDancesWithPugs1 year ago

Well-intentioned doesn't mean good idea.

"Oh hey, that minority person got a prestigious job in the face of adversity! Respect."


"They probably got that job just because they're a minority."

AA= artificial scarcity + divide and rule

95 upvotesiLLprincipLeS1 year ago

I remember I read something related:

As if it needed saying, "The Airport Control Tower Is No Place For Racial Redress" but as The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board member Jason Riley exclaimed this week, that is exactly what the Obama administration appears to have done the Obama FAA grounded qualified candidates in the name of social justice.

The FAA seems to believe that having diverse air traffic controllers is more important than having good ones and seems unwilling to defend its hiring practices.

As Fox News reports, the FAA has for decades been one of the most trusted institutions in government and for good reason. Commercial air travel has been the safest in the world in part because of the FAA's high standards. But under the Obama administration that began to change radically without anybody paying attention.

Michael Pearson, an attorney suing the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" host Tucker Carlson that during the Obama administration, the FAA replaced the previous hiring standards with rules designed to increase diversity among air traffic controllers.

“A group within the FAA, including the human resources function within the FAA -- the National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees -- determined that the workforce was too white,” Pearson told Carlson.

“They had a concerted effort through the Department of Transportation in the Obama administration to change that.”

“This is social engineering at its finest,” he added.

The Obama administration pressured the FAA to meet abstract diversity goals. Nobody bothered to explain why diversity is a relevant criterion for air traffic controllers. No one will explain it now.

Fox News reports that, starting in 2014, the FAA added a biographical questionnaire to the application process. Applicants with a lower aptitude in science got preference over applicants who had scored excellent in science. Applicants who had been unemployed for the previous three years got more points than licensed pilots got. In other words, the FAA actively searched for unqualified air traffic controllers.

147 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

determined that the workforce was too white

"Too white" is always what "more diversity needed" means. No one calls Japan too Asian, Haiti too black, and Mexico too Hispanic.

50 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

15 upvotestallwheel1 year ago

Well, none of the true Scots I know are like that...

1 upvotesmrpakalupapito0071 year ago

And America should just be American. Race-blind not biased, sadly not the case

1 upvotesSeamanteries1 year ago

Except America is a race, so is Europe, China, Iraq, India, Mexico.

Spez: No responses just downvotes.

I wonder if importing a billion Chinese into America would make it America still? (No.)

17 upvotesDickinson_Burns1 year ago

You should see Australia, capital of importing foreigners.

Little to no aussie identity left under all these colours for better or worse

12 upvotesDownyGall1 year ago

I'm with ya. Americans are an amalgamation of Europeans.

11 upvotesLightning141 year ago

And what about the Native Americans/Mexicans that were here before European settlers? Not to mention all of the slaves brought here. Their descendents are just as American as anyone with the role they played in the formation and development of our nation.

It's ignorant to equate "American" to being strictly of European descent. I grew up in a part of Los Angeles full of 2nd generation immigrants from Iran, Korea, China, Armenia, Philippines, and many other places. I don't see those people as any less American than myself even though I am 100% of European descent tracing immigrant roots to pre-American Revolution New England on one side and 1800s New York on the other. Culturally they would not fit in where their parents emigrated from like they do here - where they were born and raised and produce and consume. They are culturally American.

9 upvotesparty_dragon1 year ago

Admittedly few whites want to go to Haiti, Mexico or Japan (except to fuck).

11 upvotesturn20left1 year ago

I'm an air traffic controller. Affirmative action is a real thing in the FAA.

1 upvotesUnleashTheWolf1 year ago

White men are the overwhelming majority of pilots, so Richard was talking some shit.

I don't agree with censorship like that though.

166 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

Hence why he couldn't get in. Have you been in the job market? Diversity hires are a wall to guys getting in for many industries.

1 upvotesUnleashTheWolf1 year ago

I'm an Aerospace Engineering student, and one of my friends from my course got onto the Easyjet pilot scheme program last year. In his class of 20, all of them were white men.

There is no requirement for diversity in Pilot jobs; they hire and train the guys that have the skills that they need.

48 upvotesjimboslice291 year ago

Not to be a dick but it’s probably a good thing that this guy didn’t land a job as a commercial pilot.

61 upvotesTheseNthose1 year ago

Don't forget airlines aren't going to hire pilots who have suicidal tendencies, are on SSRIs, diagnosed with a depressive disorder or who "have a few screws loose".



1 upvotesPonFarJarJar1 year ago

nah man. he was just a victim of the PC POLICE /s

7 upvotesLivecrazyjoe1 year ago

I think this is the most important fact here. People are on this I hate affirmative action bs but won't step back and realize he would have been hired because he was a nut job.

9 upvotesand_another_dude1 year ago

Get ready to see forced diversity when you enter the workforce.

Source: Am aerospace engineer.

37 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

well he perceived that it was... do you think the constant media barrage of diversity above all had nothing to do with it?

Besides, I know your student experience is missing the post education stuff. just had my buddy finally leave the military, and the amount of 'no white guys' jobs he found on his search was staggering.

and this is from a guy with 15 years. military experience, an mba, family of 2 and an impeccable record as both officer and enlisted.

I can only. imagine what a 70% version of him would have to go through..

You might. even say it drove him to desperation, taking control. of the only thing he had left...

1 upvotesUnleashTheWolf1 year ago

I agree that the media have a ridiculous focus on diversity, but when it comes to high skilled jobs like this, the best candidate is chosen, simple. That's the reality.

I have said what I do know of this industry specifically. Other industries I have no idea; there is definitely a big push for diversity in recent years

36 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

I've seen it in finance, military, public sector,... I don't know aviation but I see the trend.

people don't need the best, they need good enough that's somewhat pleasant to work with or a virtue signal of how progressive one is.

meritocracy stopped being a thing when we took west germany

0 upvotesSlimeyJusticeWarrior1 year ago

In his class of 20, all of them were white men.

Haha, strike them with some universal proofs!!

24 upvotesPMnewb1 year ago

This does not apply to the aviation industry, at all. The vast majority of pilots are white dudes. I'm friends with several airline pilots. They're all white dudes. They never had trouble finding a job. There is no "quota" system.

This guy who committed suicide was making a dark humored joke. The same way he told ATC he'd have no problem landing the plane because he "played some video games". There's no conspiracy here, so lets not make one up.

13 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

Who said conspiracy? I'm talking trends across industries. Corporate signalling isn't about Dr Strangelove in the warroom

18 upvotesPMnewb1 year ago

Just because diversity hiring is a trend in other industries doesn't mean you should suggest it's what kept him from following his dreams ("Hence why he couldn't get in." in your words).

The guy didn't become a pilot because becoming a pilot is difficult and expensive. There is no need to spin a narrative about him being held down by diversity quotas, when you have people in the thread telling you that no such quotas exist.

12 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

Ask any person in the mental health space (or anyone with game in the PUA space) and they all agree, the one thing you DO NOT do is to minimize or disregard someones perceived grievances.

Whether it exists, existed for him, or doesn't exist is irrelevant. The solution is to either remove the actual grievance, or remove the influence that makes people perceive it was a grievance.

It's the same argument for a conflict of interest. You aren't establishing that there is no impropriety, it's that you work to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

Same here. ]Something got into this mans head a grievance only solvable by suicide, who would otherwise have all the markers of a healthy man by society standards](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/27dzrm/men_are_not_happy/) And I'm sure you think of yourself as a redpilled man, just realize, this is some blue shit you're still holding on to.

The man killed himself just to be heard, unless you want more bodies on the pile, it's best to listen, before people try larger bodycounts to up the volume

3 upvotesInconspicuousWand1 year ago

My buddy is, He’s white. And a pilot and most of his colleges are also white pilots

0 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago


1 upvotesLuckyluke231 year ago

hence why I'm still unemployed.

trying to get into the accounting game is tough. especially now they just hire cheap labor from overseas. it's a joke.

1 upvoteslenovoisshit1 year ago

Seriously, what up with the victim mentality?

2 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

It's not a victim mentality, it's reality. doesn't mean you're powerless

51 upvotesCHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK1 year ago

You seem to have missed the point.

Existing pilots are white men. Which is why the racial and gender quotas that are being applied to all pilots as whole require very strict affirmative action towards new entrants.

Imagine you have 100 pilots and 90 are white men. Then HR and the law says you need to diversify the workforce to be 30% female and 40% minorities. 10 of your pilots are retiring (9 white men, 1 non white male). How many of your next 10 hires will be white men? Zero. How many of the next 10? Zero.

Now apply this at national and international scales. White men cannot enter the field. Or they find some ways in less strict places, but they need to be the absolute top of the class and the odds are stacked against them to the point where their career outlook is not very good. Do you understand?

edit: noticed you've downvoted me. Why? And do you understand what I am saying?

14 upvotesPMnewb1 year ago

This is 100%, entirely wrong. There is no "quota system" of any sort in the US Aviation industry. There is absolutely no barrier to entry for a white man to train and find employment as a pilot.

You are throwing around conjecture about an industry you know nothing about, just because you want to believe there is some anti-white-male conspiracy out there based on the final words of some scared, mentally ill man.

20 upvotesDyrdy_Lawx1 year ago

There is in air traffic control. Look it up.

2 upvotesssr4021 year ago

In the US at least the law says no such thing.

4 upvotesglobal_sak1 year ago

No such thing as racial or diversity quotas. Dont bring bullshit racial shit into what Richard did. There is a global shortage of pilots. He could have gotten a pilot job in many places and be paid handsomely for it if only he had the balls to keep looking, or move elsewhere. Perhaps he failed his ratings tests or did like shit so he just flunk the recruitment standards. Richard couldnt cope with his own failures and called it quits. No need to blame Hillary or Obama like a little bitch

8 upvotesRangerBass211 year ago

As a white male in San Francisco, the best way to get the job at the top tech companies is to put African American, female, disability on your application. If you can explain during the interview you’re also gay and transgender, instant hire. Name your salary. If you show up for the in person interview that you’re now guaranteed to get, just tell them you identify as the above. Heads would explode.

1 upvotesWTHub1 year ago

Neck beards? What's that have to do with downvoting posts?

1 upvotesnhingy1 year ago

Hahahaha couldn't get a job as a pilot as he's a white man. Fucking hell that's hilarious.

Feel so sorry for this guy.

I hope it's not the kinda of shit you guys pedal that drove this guy over the edge. Sure as hell wasn't cos airlines don't hire white male pilots.

Also don't pretend he was 'one of you' it's pretty pathetic really, and ultimately you're hijacking his suicide to support your bile not knowing if he supported your cause or not.

Fucking trolls should be ALL OVER YOU for doing something like that. You guys really fucking suck.

1 upvotespsyEDk1 year ago

Why do you come here.. just to tell people how much you hate them? Yikes

1 upvotestinkerer131 year ago

So you're POV is that people need to share an ideology or a social membership as a prerequisite for legitimately empathizing with a commonality of the western human struggle?

1 upvotesnhingy1 year ago

No I just think projecting a load of your own issues onto a guy who's committed suicide is really really distasteful. Sorry.

233 upvotes1v1crown1 year ago

We are all Richard.

I am not Richard.

Pay off your loans boys, no debt = freedom.

39 upvotesslumdog-millionaire1 year ago

Being debt free is a great start, if you can take it a step further and achieve financial independence where you don’t have to work for the sake of surviving then you’ve acheived true freedom. That’s really fucking hard though, make a good living doing something you enjoy and you’ll feel fine.

But yea point is not everyone is Richard. Are a lot of people? Sure, maybe even most but it’s up to the individual to take steps to ensure they’re not just a cog in the machine with no choice of how their life goes, also it doesn’t just apply to men, basically can apply to any adult, that’s just life. These are some important points OP didn’t include.

23 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

I earn more money than I could spend; whilst it has enabled me to do many things it's not a panacea. When you can do anything, one asks yourself; what do I want to do? This is the hardest question of all.

I love my vocation but at times self-actualisation is the most difficult challenge.

You may not be Richard, but all who work to survive certainly share traits that he expressed.

1 upvotesExpectations11 year ago

Well that takes a lot of undoing because your mind has been conditioned in the system, you cant think about what you want to do whilst your in the system and a job.

If you could do what you wanted to youd have to quit your job but if you could quit your job youd already be doing something else.

5 upvotesLightning141 year ago

It's goes deeper into your psyche. We aren't evolved to have all of our needs met with no threat to our survival. Humans are built to work together for surviving against nature today, tomorrow, and next year. When that is gone existential problems arise like /u/CasaDeFranco mentions. As he said, you have to create problems to overcome (goals) that are not inherently there just for your own sanity.

I could go deeper into this topic, but I'll just say that I believe the problem is exacerbated by our fractured society that is no longer built around community but around individual wants/needs.

3 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

I already quit my job to do what I'm doing. Once you do what you once thought was impossible, you have to find another impossible goal to achieve.

5 upvoteshulk_hogans_alt1 year ago

Also, learn about budgeting and capital gains.

3 upvotesMistahGustitues1 year ago

I read this in my mind a la Fight Club.

"I am not Richard. I am not Richard. I am not Richard..."

3 upvotesKornstar041 year ago

Western world wants you to be Richard and will push you there. As OP says, a few points to ensure we don't have Richards end.

2 upvotesJscolin1 year ago

I agree! Just spent a few months to paid off my long due credit card debt!

2 upvotesAndgelyo1 year ago

Fuck, I got debt up to my ass from graduate school. Thinking about it makes me fucking mad as hell.

113 upvotesBc_Land1 year ago

I'm 100% on board with helping others in times of need. We all go through hard times and we all need support and we should all be there to support others when necessary. It is out duty as men and leaders. But to approach this like he was some kind of hero is an injustice to those who stay with the struggle until they succeed. And it is a lie.

Richard did not die a free man. He was completely bound to the effects of his conditions and apparently saw no way out. Now that is truly the sad part. His action became those of a man who gave up and you cannot spin that any other way in the RP bottle.

RP is about moving from the effect side of the cause/effect equation over to the cause side. To become "at cause" for your conditions first requires accepting your part in them so that you can realize that you have, and can make other choices. You can set your own outcomes and act accordingly to produce them. If anything, this is a case that perfectly illustrates why that is necessary.

So by all means, remember Richard and mourn him. Use his story to help others understand the need to make their own decisions and take responsibility for their actions. But please don't try to glorify him for stealing someone's property to kill himself, effectively giving up on himself and everybody who he felt the need to apologize to on the audio. Think of the message that he sent to them. Don't glorify him for having nothing of enough value in his life to keep going for. Perhaps the value was there and he was too self-absorbed to either recognize or appreciate it.

This is a completely BP story and the effects it can produce, which you illustrate by your list of learning at the end of the post. And I assume all the feel-gooders will line up to to downvote this because their BP conditioning will not be able to accept the harsh truth it contains. I feel sad when I hear these things, but I refuse to glorify the weakness that caused them.

8 upvotesSeedThrownAway1 year ago

We are all bound by nature, society, and ourselves. We are all empowered by nature, society, and ourselves.

11 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

I will concede there is some glorification of this act as a spectacular display of self-destruction. My point was more that everyone can learn what one can do to help their friends or themselves pursue a for meaningful existence where a spectacular display of self-destruction is not considered, or that mental illness is identified and treated.

4 upvotes_quote1 year ago

Damn, always go to the comments for the real post...well said! I’m stealing this!

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

You have a point. He could have quit his job and find his own purpose even if it is tough for a period. But stealing someone else property is a nono. Even so i have more respect for this dude than scums like Elliot Rodger

2 upvotesmsarn51501 year ago

"How we face death is at least as important as how we face life."

1 upvoteszaqwsx691 year ago

Hey guys I worked with rich at the port of seattle and I’m a ground service agent at Horizen as he was. I don’t know how to prove this without revealing my identity but if you have any questions regarding the job or him I’ll answer it.

20 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

Give us a Rich "book report".

Was he a nut?, a normie?, a powder keg? a retard? Any "not quite right" moments? Or was this "out of the blue"(into an island)?

1 upvoteszaqwsx691 year ago

I wanna first start off by saying I have no reason to believe he was mentally ill. When the incident happened there was a lot of names that popped into my head and his was not one of them. There really are some nut jobs at this job which is why the turnover rate is so high. But he was one of the normal ones that I could talk to and crack jokes with. This came as a surprise to every single one of us.

If you listen to the conversation he had with flight control. You could see that He was never out to hurt anyone and he was cracking jokes.

6 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

Thanks for that. We all have this idea in our heads that we can peg the guys that are going to snap.

This guy was just a guy that decided he had the means and motivation to plan his grand demise. So he did.

85 upvotesspartan13371 year ago

That loop maneuver he pulled was epic

20 upvotesmidnightreider1 year ago

Seriously. Context aside, that’s impressive

8 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

Can do a lot of shit if you don't care about your life or exceeding the max g loading on the airframe.

6 upvotesexplorer13571 year ago

Lmao it was.

149 upvotesMMASpartan771 year ago

I’m pretty sure Richard was mentally ill

96 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

I would concur.

Russel states during the flight "I'm just that broken guy, I've got a few screws loose, I guess. I never really knew it .... until now.”

My point is that even he didn't really know.

30 upvotesirate_killah1 year ago

"What humans describe as sane is a narrow range of behaviors" ...dammit westworld is still giving me tons of existential crises.

I think it's often easier to declare people as insane than to consider or admit that we all have our faults and quirks that could easily be construed as 'abnormal' or 'insane' by some shrink. I think it's important to embrace these things as a part of who we are and to work on them rather than accept a defeatist attitude that you're a victim. I'm not saying that that there wasn't actually something mentally wrong with him...Just my two cents

17 upvotes-Fidelio-1 year ago

He was analysing himself and trying to figure out why he was doing what he was doing. For me that's one of the comments that actually signalled that despite what he was doing, he was a pretty balanced guy most likely.

He made a really stupid short term decision. Because if he was thinking long term, he could have experienced the same thing multiple times legally.

It's possible that he was mentally ill, but I'm not too convinced. You don't have to be sick to do something (deeply) stupid.

8 upvotesmax_peenor1 year ago

Was he? Unless you are stroking out or something, when does behavior just snap like that unless there is an external motivator? Something else is a factor here, but we probably will never know what.

7 upvotesTavolettaRossa1 year ago

He spoke about watching the fuel gauge early on, I'd wager he intended to land but was unable to rationalise himself away from a worst case scenario for him if he had landed sucessfully. Arguably the potential effects of the initial stages of hypoxia (from him not being able to pressurise the cabin) turned this from a joyride into a suicide mission.

21 upvotesNightwingTRP1 year ago

Insanity is a sane response to an insane world. When you say he was mentally ill, what do you diagnose?

1 upvotesparty_dragon1 year ago

He said as much himself.

“Got a few screws loose, I guess,” he is heard saying in the recording. “Never really knew it until now.”


1 upvotesNightwingTRP1 year ago

You obviously skipped the follow up point. "Got a few screws loose" adds nothing of value to this discussion. Take some time off and think about what you're actually contributing to this sub. If I see you still posting tomorrow I'll drop the mods a line to get you banned for a bit if you can't control yourself.

1 upvotesparty_dragon1 year ago

adds nothing of value to this discussion

Nor does your reply. Or this whole thread.

I'll drop the mods a line to get you banned for a bit if you can't control yourself.

Please do, maybe your ego will feel better ;) or it already does when you're posting thinly veiled electronic threats :D

Edit: now this reply of yours does add some value, thanks! (Even though it doesn't change my opinion about the whole thread.)

1 upvotesMMASpartan771 year ago

I’m not a licensed psychologist but to steal a plane with no training - I’m sure something is wrong mentally

30 upvotesNightwingTRP1 year ago

If memory serves from what little I'd heard of this story, he'd had some training.

I’m not a licensed psychologist but... I’m sure something is wrong mentally

Now what you've done here is unhelpful. You are announcing you are ignorant of the topic yet happy to put forward an opinion. Don't do that. Mental health is a complex topic, I know, I've studied it. Random lay-opinions only muddy the waters.

What if he didn't have any mental health issues, but just snapped? If that's the case saying he had mental health problems could be taken as he had something going on already before he snapped. Do you see how this confuses things?

The reason it's important not to confuse things here is the OP has taken to discussing how the way society has taken the feminine imperative too far is putting men under more pressures than ever. Including mental pressure. As anyone who's studied the mental breaking points of people will tell you, we've all got one somewhere. It's just a matter of how much pressure needs to be put on you. When you dismissively state that he's got a mental health problem and end with that, it implies that there wasn't any problem going on... just that he was particularly weak. What if he wasn't? What if he was like you or me and just had an inordinate amount of pressure put on him? If the latter is the case, then we've got something to learn because a normal guy snapping could happen to any other normal guy out there.

Keep focused on what we're learning here.

-4 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

>If memory serves from what little I'd heard of this story, he'd had some training.

Oh yeah, he was a real pro:

>I've played video games before, I know what I'm doing.

-Richard (the retard) Russel

6 upvotesNightwingTRP1 year ago

Yeah, I'd heard that bit. I'd also heard that he had like one or two lessons. It's fairly obvious that does not constitute professional. Avoid being passive aggressive. It's a feminine quality.

Ultimately, even if you are right it doesn't detract from my wider point about what is and isn't useful for learning here.

1 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

All good mate, it's hard to portray sarcasm over text.

Your lessons learnt are useful, I agree. But ultimately, he took the "easy way out", with suicide. He is not someone to be looked up to.

5 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

Because the alternative is he had a valid grievance. Instead, call him insane...

May as well have asked what he was wearing to deserve it.

36 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

mental ilness is invention of western elites to hide the fact system is inhumane..

73 upvotesInscrutablePUA1 year ago

Not onboard with the conspiracy theory but generally agree. Mental illness is not a disease like a cold which is caused by a virus. Maybe what we call 'mental illness' in some forms is a natural response to an inhumane and dehumanizing world

1 upvotesIAmBecomeCaffeine1 year ago

You're actually not too far off. Check it out. TL;DW Depression could be an evolutionary defense mechanism. If one mental illness is like that, then I wouldn't be surprised if several more are.

7 upvotes-Fidelio-1 year ago

I haven't checked it out yet, but even if it's an evolutionary defense mechanism, that doesn't necessarily mean mental illness is nonsense. I mean, allergies are a evolutionary defense mechanism and they can kill you.

I think that mental illness is a legitimate thing, but probably about 15% of those that get diagnosed with them. There's a whole business as well as politics that thrive on inflating mental illness.

9 upvotesP4_Brotagonist1 year ago

Oh is that all it is? Damn if only we were in different times my schizophrenia would have never developed! Glad I knew that.

2 upvoteswordsoundpower1 year ago

They would call it 'ascension'.

1 upvotesplanet_caravan1 year ago

You're getting downvoted but there's a kernel of truth to what you're saying. There's real evidence that treating schizophrenia like a freak disease actually makes the symptoms worse, whereas schizophrenics in other cultures who treat the visions like spiritual experiences generally end up living happier lives and their symptoms aren't as bad.

2 upvoteswordsoundpower1 year ago

Thanks for getting it. It was taken the wrong way. Reddit has thickened my skin. It's dumb to always have to put an /s after the obvious for fear of being downvoted. What are they anyway save for a way of shutting you out of a discussion? I put 'ascension' in quotes, for crying out loud.

Thank you for actually reading the comment with open eyes.

7 upvotesMMASpartan771 year ago

In some cases maybe - it most cases no

5 upvotesDroppingJailSoap1 year ago

Depression is caused by our unnnatural life. Living a good live in kature, eating healthy foods and beeing active will cure depression easily.

1 upvotesCyranicSeer1 year ago

It's a nice idea, wishful thinking, but unfortunately a very toxic ideology in practice that denies mentally ill people the help they actually need for the sake of arguing they just need to eat more vegetables and take a walk around the neighborhood

1 upvotesplanet_caravan1 year ago

I get what you're saying but schizophrenia is some real shit. Not all of it is nonsense to sell therapy sessions.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

The point is - when you create broken families in broken society, everyone is sick.

1 upvotesxnesteax1 year ago

I agree it's fucking obvious how they are trying hard to make people depressed.

2 upvotesgbdoragnic1 year ago

Broken and abused is more like it, seeing how little humanity society gives you in general but you are expected to give the world. Male suicide is considerably higher than female, but no one is asking why anymore they are just blaming blame on societal structures

0 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Agree. Likely something like Bipolar, but not that serious. A symptom of Bipolar (manic-depressive) is impulsivity. So you have an ongoing depression or some sort of trigger, you need a serotonin boost and then you do something completely impulsive to fill that void. He likely didn't even consider how it would end. He just wanted something novel and a huge surge of adrenaline.

16 upvotesArbiterjim1 year ago

Interesting mesh of brotherhood and a dark overindulgence in individualism and lack of empathy in this thread. I agree that we must be self sufficient and this guy took the easy way out, but still... should we not mourn a guy who was victim of the world we escaped? A free man can still mourn the plight of the slave.

I for one think this is a tragedy. One that I hope we can all avoid, but know that not all of us will.

31 upvotesHIJKelemenoP1 year ago

What a fuckin way to go out.

11 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Reminds me of shawshank redemption. The opera music heplayed over theP.A. as well as the old librarian.
"Brooks was here"

13 upvotesmacheagle1 year ago

Pilot here. Not that much older than him at all either. I will toast to the fallen brother today.

53 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

Simple, likeable, not very smart 30yo married guy making less than minimum wage decides to kill himself. Even in the last moments, he was concerned more about the welfare of others than his own death.

That's how deep the blue pill indoctrination runs.

His answer was to opt out. "Wasn't really planning on landing."

That was his choice.

Just a long-premeditated workerbee suicide. Nothing beautiful about that.

11 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

He did have the balls to steal the plane thought

9 upvotesmax_peenor1 year ago

OP and you are making the same point.

9 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

Richard truly lived as a free man, living Man's oldest dream, completely, utterly free.

This is the issue I had. I disagree. Just another poor blooper caught in the grinder.

14 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

That was my point, you miss the entire crux of my message. It was, escape the grinder, but make sure it's not a Faustian exchange where one loses everything.

He was a simple guy but he demonstrated he could have certainly done more with his life, a few pilots I know were shocked at his ability to perform this manoeuvre.

14 upvotesRevo_Luzione1 year ago

The guy was broken. Word is, he was divorced or in the process of getting one. We cannot rule out cripping one-itis. God knows that kind of destruction caused me to find the red pill.

In his state of brokenness he mustered the pure courage to create one final act of beauty. His final act of courage took less than an hour, and ended, as he said, going nose down & calling it a night.

His example is that he put his life on the line for an act of courage that ended up creating an iconic event.

The true message, to me, is this: He finally decided to live life on his own terms, and to do something that only he really wanted. We can all create this, but our final flight might take 5 years or a lifetime, and our barrel roll might be mastering a difficult skill or market, creating fantastic art, literature, music, or something amazing that may not be recognized until after we're dead. No matter. Create, we must. And every act of creation may be your last. Living that way has power. Dying that way has immense power. Build your dream, create your art. Just do it on a very long timeline, unlike Beebo's all-too-short final mission.

1 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

Beautifully put.

5 upvotesGarathon1 year ago

It sure has a poetic beauty. I can very well see this being the ending scene of a well-reviewed movie.

3 upvotesGarathon1 year ago

It sure has a poetic beauty. I can very well see this being the ending scene of a well-reviewed movie.

8 upvotesVasiliyZaitzev1 year ago

If only for a brief, beautiful moment, Richard truly lived as a free man, living Man's oldest dream, completely, utterly free.

Richard was approximately as free as Spinoza's Rock, to wit: until he hit the ground.

Live a life worth living.

Lives worth living don't generally end in desperation, Grand Theft Aircraft, and botched crash landings.

Whatever an RP man sets out to do in life, it shouldn't end this way.

8 upvotesiLoveReddit321 year ago


7 upvotesMAGA1774921 year ago

I like a lot of the philosophies on this sub, but I feel that it would be unwise to glorify this man.

14 upvotesKrigsgaldr1 year ago

And listen to Vivaldi.

13 upvotestrele_morele1 year ago

You motherfuckers made me cry at work..

10 upvotesMentORPHEUS1 year ago

We are all Richard.

You got the translation wrong. Richard is a jelly donut.

So much ersatz philosophy and misplaced heroism over this guy. I feel worse for the $32 million aircraft he wasted.

Richard gained nothing, but now thousands of hard, low paying airport jobs will evermore be an even bigger pain in the ass to endure with more stringent layers of security rules, with untold thousands of man-hours wasted probably before the workers can even clock in, every day forever.

Next time you're grinding your way through airport security, why not use the copious lost time to remember Richard and ponder the choices of who becomes elevated as some kind of hero.

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

Yes fuck that guy he caused me an inconvenience what a selfish asshole killing himself in such a way instead of silently doing it so nobody else knew. You seem to lack empathy my friend

4 upvotesMentORPHEUS1 year ago

Every arcane rule and tedious required procedure exists because somebody did that.

Thanks to Richard, untold millions of man-hours will be wasted under new procedures, and perfectly good people will find a higher bar to gainful employment. Every purchaser of air travel, and probably other travel modalities, will now pay more and probably find security even slower.

Go ahead though and dismiss condemning this asshole's self-indulgent grand exit as something petty like an inconvenience.

5 upvotesAtheist_Utopia1 year ago

I have an alternative perspective. People in general want to feel important. He was working as a bagage handler. In social status, that is not too far off from a waste handler.

It is very simple, he wanted to feel important, so he took the plane and crashed it without casualties apart from himself. He's being regarded as a hero for that, so I guess mission accomplished.

2 upvotesdrbldmny1 year ago

except a "waste handler" can easily make 6 figures

16 upvotesDownyGall1 year ago

Say what you will about the pre-modern world (men were also disposable then), but at least it gave us a clear defined purpose: Fighting for The West.

3 upvotestuyguy1 year ago

On the one hand I agree with you. On the other, isn't it true freedom to be able to define your own purpose? I guess most men are too absent-minded to do that themselves.

6 upvotesDownyGall1 year ago

Freedom is slavery. It's not a case of absent mindedness or that the people in the past didn't have any choice. It's that there was a brotherhood you could lose yourself in and fight with. You were fighting for something.

And look what this true freedom has gotten us. Losers who chase skirt and losers who chase money. Who cares?

-6 upvotesnhingy1 year ago

Wow, what a massive history failure.

-1 upvotesbuddahbusted1 year ago

I love to force everyone who downvoted you into a time machine.

7 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

You know what, I've always wanted to be the captain of a ship. I've never sailed before but I've played bloodwake before, so I think I know what I'm doing.

I think I'm going to go steal an empty cargo ship, go around in a few circles and sink it on some rocks near the coast. I can swim, but I don't really have any plans on going back to land, if I die, do you think they'll call me the Seaking

6 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

My buddies and I planned this too... we want to be called the seamen.

2 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

I was trying to work that in somehow, but couldn't find a way that didn't seem forced and went with a pokemon instead: traded humor for stupidity.

Great delivery.

3 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago


the CF in me laughs, the Seaking is the workhorse helicopter in canada, notorious for needing 10 hours of maintenance for each hour of flight, and dropping out of the fucking sky.

1 upvotesmax_peenor1 year ago

The chans have a whole meme around him as the SkyKing. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sky-king-richard-russell

1 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

Thanks for the article mate, it was an interesting read.

> In more recent years, the vintage helicopters have run into a series of mechanical problems, some of which forced landings in schoolyards and parking lots.

Haha. I can just picture it now; would have made the kids’ day.

2 upvotesTheRedPike1 year ago

I laughed

6 upvotesJP1161 year ago

At the risk of stating the obvious, this guy was deeply troubled. I am not Richard. May he find the peace he was looking for.

19 upvotesProphets_Prey1 year ago

He went out on his terms and took to the skies for the last time. F sky king.

3 upvotesportofseatacgsa1 year ago

Hey guys I worked with rich at the port of Seattle, and I’m also a ground service agent I don’t know how I can prove this without revealing my identity but if you guys have any questions about him or the job I’d be more then glad to answer

4 upvotesTheRedPike1 year ago

PM me an imgur of your badge with identifying info washed out and a date/name stamp.

1 upvotesFeralRed1 year ago

Same question I posed to u/zaqwsx69 above, who also worked with Rich. You guys should PM each other. Red bag throwers unite!


Give us a Rich "book report".

Was he a nut?, a normie?, a powder keg? a retard? Any "not quite right" moments? Or was this "out of the blue"(into an island)?

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 1 year ago

This is one of the most beautiful things I've ever read

3 upvotesChipsAhLoy1 year ago

Nah I just went to flight school instead, became a pilot just fine that way.

3 upvotesBostonPillParty1 year ago

Posts like this make me remember why I love TRP.

Be it GayLubeOil’s funny yet truthful posts, or using a piece from a field report successfully in real life, there is a lot of good things in this sub.

But reminders of the empathetic struggle we are all going through fire me up like no other post on this sub. The world is changing and it’s getting tougher for men in the West. We can’t succumb to the pressure around us, no. We need to be as prepared as possible to participate in 2018, and the years to come.

RIP RR, wish you found and voluntarily ingested TRP before you decided to jack that plane...

3 upvotesImNotGabriel1 year ago

He didn’t shoot up a school. He didn’t run around the street stabbing people. He didn’t try to make a bomb and detonate in a public place. He stole a plane and flew in the air peacefully. It’s tragic that he died in the end, yes, but it’s good that he didn’t take anyone with him.

1 upvotesJeepAtWork1 year ago

Why isn’t “get therapy” one of your suggestions?

2 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

I've updated the post.

I find that speaking to friends and family is an easier first step but a professional is absolutely great advice; especially for those without that support structure.

8 upvotesredvelvet_oreo1 year ago

Sorry my glass is not being raised to this guy. We all struggle. We all go through dark times. We all need help in some point of our lives. How you go about that is your own choice. Taken your own life IMO is the easy way out. Never Quit.

My glass goes to the people here actually trying to make a difference in their lives and the ones actually making progress.

2 upvotesmax_peenor1 year ago

^ My favorite comments are from people that understand the point but don't think they do.

7 upvotesPranksterLad1 year ago

I don't understand, am I missing something here. We are celebrating this guy like a hero. He quit - he quit on his wife, his kids, his life, his everything he had. His family and all the people he cared about. It's sad. And we celebrate it.

I don't understand.

5 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

We mourn those so hopelessly lost that they quit on fighting the good fight. It's not a celebration of the act but the intent of the act; to disconnect from the endless loop her was in, wake, work, eat, sleep, repeat.

4 upvotesuntitled561 year ago

Live a life of passion? That's a recipe for disaster. Passion is whatever makes you feel good in the moment. What happens when you feel bad? You crash a plane. That's what you do when you live a life of passion, basing your existence on how you feel at the moment.

What is needed is a purpose. Most people on here are nihilistic, and disregard the necessity of purpose.

As a recent redpill from blue, my purpose has been lost, and no one here is offering any suggestions on how to replace it. "Make up your own purpose," people say. "Pursue your passions," others say.

The suggestions you give, OP, aren't meaningful, nor do they provide a purpose.

1 upvotesCasaDeFranco [OP]1 year ago

Passion and purpose should not be mutually exclusive.

4 upvotesfree_impregnations1 year ago

Dude was a baggage slinger, he probably had all the exercise he needed. Suicidal thoughts can’t all be exercised away. Not saying don’t do it, just saying temper your expectations

1 upvoteshumanoid123451 year ago

Well said - the 'Lifting cures everything Bro' crowd don't like to hear this, though.

1 upvotesBrickles091 year ago

Not only lifting, cardio too. He was fatty, very likely had a dead bedroom, wife was probably wanting to divorce him. That coupled with his frustration with his career made him a ticking bomb. So, yeah, a gym membership/TRP could have defused the bomb.

2 upvotesBlackVale1 year ago

Thank you for this message. Although for me finding friends and a passion is a great challenge.

2 upvotesSkywave281 year ago

Out of all the people who were told to do a barrel roll, he actually did it. Good on you comrade

2 upvotestuyguy1 year ago

Lengthier transcript I found

Holy shit this is moving. I saw his picture everywhere but didn't know what he did.

2 upvotesBlackFallout1 year ago

I watched the Video. And it fucken hit me hard. Eyes teared up. Same fucken age. I'm in a much better position in life. In tech school for HVAC. Looking forward to making 40$ an hour in a few years. I wanted to be a pilot when I was younger too.

2 upvotesfischbrot1 year ago

full raw audio with subtitles CC


2 upvotesTehJimmyy1 year ago

Do you consider pussy/relationships part of the system?Cuz i see a lot of people here with multiple plates feeling empty.

3 upvotesCasd121 year ago

Yeah we're all like Richard in a way, but there's a key difference that you fail to note. Instead of "giving up" and taking the easy route of becoming a victim like Richard, you can instead work hard to become the criminal.

Life is nothing but a competition with yourself to see if you'll become the criminal instead of the victim.

1 upvotesjpc49011 year ago

Why is this being glorified?

1 upvotesmax_peenor1 year ago

It isn't. Stop reading things literally.

1 upvoteshumanoid123451 year ago

Anyone got a link to a transcript of the full audio from his dialogue with ATC?

1 upvotesPranksterLad1 year ago

How do we know though that was his struggle. I don’t see any struggle from him or messages left behind?

Wife and kids left behind... I think about ending the cycle all the time. Honestly.

1 upvotesDirtyBastard131 year ago

What a waste. Yet another example of how Our failed society turns out broken men who end like this. This is another Elliot Rodgers or that guy who wanted to crash into the IRS building.

Had there been a purpose to his life or someone to point him in a healthy and productive direction perhaps these tragedies would not happen. Just goes to show that men are the disposable ones, and for what exactly?

1 upvotesvictor_knight1 year ago

It's truly unfortunate that when a man dies the world silently celebrates simply because it's one less dick to compete against for pussy. We are our DNA.

1 upvotesfischbrot1 year ago

Many men express a lack of purpose, where one has no choice but to serve the machine and be extracted for their worth before they are discarded.

wise words , wiiiseee words! well put! thanks!

1 upvotesEscortSportage1 year ago

He was so calm and collected, and quite humorous during the entire ordeal.

1 upvotesHeathcliff--1 year ago

Or you could be more cynical and of the opinion that this was all some false flag/distraction psy op and the real motives behind sending that plane up (unmanned) and causing a spectacle won't be known until we get some more clues and piece together the mystery.

Smells fishy to me.

9 upvotesRian_Stone1 year ago

[user was deplatformed for this post]

5 upvotesBillyRedRocks1 year ago

The plane was actually full of gay frogs. They were getting rid of the evidence.

5 upvotesmagx011 year ago

interdimensional child molesters.

Look into it.

0 upvotespoohead31 year ago

I'd wager that the long nose tribe is at fault for this.

1 upvotesflownthedark1 year ago

Damned good pilot,turbo prop sound and his barrel roll are bad ass. Cheers sir. Too many haters for brotherhood on the ground.

1 upvotesfrooschnate1 year ago

What was the point of this post? Honest question.

-1 upvotesStrikePrice1 year ago

Pfft. I’m not Richard. Not even close. You check out like that, you’re a pussy nothing more. Sorry to ruin your fantasy. Nothing honorable or inspirational in what he did.

1 upvotesAurora9211 year ago

Even though I had a very tough childhood by any standards I can't relate to this or any of the recent suicides. Probably because it has to do with mental illness and not an "insane" world.

Everyday I wake up, glad that I am alive. Even of I spent the next 50 years just waking up, working out and eating I would still be relatively happy. Just the joy and sensation of living in a relatively peaceful time, where most of the world is open and accessible, is enough to bring tears of joy to my eyes. Sex is just icing on the cake :) Be grateful, don't get phased by stuff you have no control over and give less shit about most things and you should see the light amidst the darkness.

0 upvotesFPSM4N1 year ago

Sorry.. But he was a weak one. Took his life for nothing. Condolences for his family.

-30 upvotesFreenorthman1 year ago

Fuck this selfish asshole! I spit on his Grave ! If you want to kill yourself eat a bullet or hang yourself dont pull other people into your shit

35 upvoteswillowhawk1 year ago

But he didn't kill anyone else....

-14 upvotesEveryGodDamnDay1 year ago

He destroyed someone else's property. Just because I'm feeling sad and adventurous doesn't mean i get to burn your house for a funeral pyre.

9 upvotesDroppingJailSoap1 year ago

Oh no, a billionaire lost a bit of profit! How sad.

4 upvotesmax_peenor1 year ago

I'm not really clear on why people are downvoting you. You can simultaneously sympathize with people that are suffering in this modern world, like he clearly was, and point out he pulled a dick move.

-1 upvotesFreenorthman1 year ago

Ask yourself who is dv this. Future incel school shooters

-8 upvotessyke-adelix1 year ago

Yeah I agree, he stole a multi million dollar airplane owned by the government and fucking crashed it into the ground. The amount of work the other maintainers are going to have to do is outrageous. People keep glorifying this guy but what he did was downright dickish

7 upvotesLiveAFTSOV1 year ago

Fuck the government - they've never helped anybody but themselves at the cost of everyone else. Just by crashing the plane, he secured a couple janitorial jobs cus someones getting paid to clean the mess up.

Helping from the grave

2 upvotessyke-adelix1 year ago

He was a maintainer in the air force, the MX boys have multiple other people in their crews that rely on these planes for their jobs including the pilot. These planes probably supply over a $1,000,000 in pay to the people working on them and this fucker crashed it instead of going to the chancellor or any other health professional on base like the others do in their field. What he did was selfish and unprofessional. If he wanted to be a pilot, he should have gone to school for it like everyone else did that had that dream. He was a god damn moron, I'm sorry he decided that suicide was the way to go but he could have done it without endangering other people and their livelihoods. Fuck him

-4 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

This, fucking THIS.

Someone has to pay for that aircraft, some one has to clean up the wreck, and yet others have to do more other mundane shit that they'd rather not do. And they all need to be paid.

If it's government: YOU PAY, from your taxes.

It the aircraft was insured, the premiums will rise... for everyone. Where do these added costs go? That's right, they get passed onto the consumer.

Enjoy the barrel roll idiots, you indirectly paid for it.

This guy was a mentally ill faggot.

1 upvotesReformed651 year ago

Solution: If we had communism, then we could just force people to clean it up for free.


3 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

They did promise jobs for all!


I just finished reading The Gulag Archipelago in its entirety; communism is fucking scary.

1 upvotespoohead31 year ago

Now read 200 Years Together :)

2 upvotesmattizie1 year ago

For fucks sake, between the TGA, the greatest story never told (next up), and now this... I'm going to bloody overdose on redpills and it'll make Alex Jones look normal.

-1 upvotesparty_dragon1 year ago

I’m not sure it’s reasonable or effective to admire a (likely) mentality ill person.

“Got a few screws loose, I guess,” he is heard saying in the recording. “Never really knew it until now.”


1 upvotesdancainmed1 year ago

Good Lord. Have some self respect. This is cringe worthy.

And the whole" boohoo I'm an oppressed white man" schtick is laughable. Nobody's ever told me I couldn't do something because I'm white. No crowd ever tried to keep me out of a school building because I'm white. The fact that you believe our kind is oppressed shows how little you know about what true oppression is really like.

Go find yourself a safe space and a therapy dog or whatever it a your generation uses when mommy's hugs are not enough anymore and don't post again until all that whining is out of your system. You'll be doing yourself a favor.

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