300,000 Subscribers. The Reddit Administration Tacitly Endorses Male Abuse and Denies its Victims
If you’re reading this, you’re probably already well aware that this week we hit 300,000 subscribers and Reddit Admin decided to “quarantine” /r/TheRedPill subreddit. This means that previous subscribers won’t see posts show up on their home page. New users won’t know we exist. You must type in the address and read an administrator endorsement of their counter-theory to TRP and accept the dangers of reading wrong-think before you can enter. If you try to do this on mobile, it lies and says the subreddit has gone private, innodating the modmail with requests for access so mod duties are effectively shut down because we can no longer attend to our daily mod duties.
It means that we cannot see how many subscribers we have, lest weak minds such as yours be convinced of alternative viewpoints – not based on argument or reason- but instead simply the number of people talking about it.
You’ll notice the Reddit admin team were kind enough to leave us a message on our new splash page and sidebar giving us notice that we presumably were a forum about toxic masculinity, but that they, and only they, are the purveyors of positive masculinity. They then explicitly endorse Stony Brook University Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities whose executive director is Michael Kimmel.
One of Michael Kimmel’s crowning achievements is to try to debunk that men are victims of domestic violence. He goes on to suggest that some evidence is simply false, that female-on-male violence is just different, and that it is men who lose control, women are provoked.
From an interview with Cassie Jaye:
It is not true, […] that there's gender symmetry in domestic violence. That women hit men as much as men hit women.
Go ahead and watch the video- this quote is not out of context. While he doesn’t deny some men are victims, he really doubts the numbers. And the Reddit Admin have just ENDORSED THIS MAN. Whoops.
I’m trying to remember where else I’ve heard hateful people doubting numbers of victims….
There is overwhelming proof that men are victims of domestic violence at least as much as women, if not more. Controlling for all violence, men surpass women as victims entirely, making the distinction of “domestic” misleading when men are by all means the target of the majority all violence and the victims of almost all murders No biggie, Michael Kimmel, it’s an easy oversight to make WHEN YOU HATE MEN.
Reddit tells us that Stony Brook should give us insight into positive masculinity, but Stony’s front page only has one reference to positive masculinity in the fight against domestic violence. And that’s for men to join as allies in preventing violence against women. That’s right men, FUCK YOU THAT YOU MAKE UP 78% OF MURDER VICTIMS, FUCK YOU THAT YOU MADE UP 59% OF VIOLENT CRIME VICTIMS, FUCK YOU THAT 93% OF WORKPLACE DEATHS ARE MEN Yes, that’s right. /u/spez thinks that little of you that he wants your masculinity to be defined not by fighting these truths, but by sacrificing yourself to prevent violence against women.
Look, I couldn’t have developed a story that confirms our theories any better than the reddit admin did. We’ve been saying this for a long time. Our society has been trying to define and frame masculinity under their own definitions and terms for a long time.
There is no female analog for the phrase “positive masculinity.” This is because it’s SEXISM to frame an entire gender as toxic simply for being until they act to rise above it. But Reddit Admin, you done fucked up and just called men TOXIC because they were born that way. I’m sure you can see the irony here since you guys apparently think we’re the sexist ones. But you know what, I think women are born inherently good, just like men. Where does that fit into your theory? (It doesn’t)
We have always taught here to be wary of anybody trying to sell you their framing of masculinity. The only person who gets to choose what it means to them to be their gender is –you.
We focus a lot on what qualities help you with sexual and professional success. And in a way we do frame masculinity to some degree. But we also make it clear that how you use this information is your choice. You define what it is to be a man. You can take the advice here or not, nobody can take away your masculinity. Nobody can tell you you’re not a man. Nobody can tell you that your born sexual characteristics are inherently toxic. And nobody here will prevent you from reading alternative opinions to that.
Well, I mean /u/spez thinks he can. But he really didn’t think much about it before linking. Maybe they made a kickback from it. Or maybe he just asked his phone “okay google how do I become real good man okay thx” and linked the first result. I’d like to think he’s more competent than that. But this move by their admin really makes me wonder.
Reddit is censoring us. This much we know. A quarantine is a form of censorship. We haven’t broken any rules and they know it. Our crack team of moderators are quick to the draw on any content bordering on against reddit’s TOS. This censorship is purely ideological. As is evidenced by their endorsement of Michael Kimmel. They simply do not like what we say.
The Admin really don’t get it, do they? The reason we are growing so massively and gaining so much traction is because we make well-reasoned arguments and defend our points. Censorship, well, that’s basically the antithesis of reasoned discourse. Who did they think they were going to be able to convince with this stunt?
I challenge the admin, /u/spez, or anybody on their team to engage me in courteous, reasoned discussion to defend their assertions and endorsements this week, or to apologize and lift the quarantine. I promise to keep it 100% civil in an all-text debate of ideas with anybody on the reddit administration. I get the feeling nobody is going to be taking me up on this offer. This would be the action of somebody with integrity. I’m sure Michael Kimmel could make an argument that integrity is part of positive masculinity. /u/spez, you don’t want to be toxic do you?
The fact is, they don’t have a well reasoned argument. They have an ideology and a social programming that makes them feel bad when exposed to ideas they don’t understand and can’t fully disagree with. Censoring us is akin to throwing over the chess board because you were losing and don’t know how to use the pieces.
The official notice from Reddit happened at the exact time the Quarantine took place. The reason for our quarantine is as follows:
In this case the quarantine was applied for the high degree of misogyny present in this subreddit. To be removed from quarantine, you may present an appeal here. The appeal should include a detailed accounting of changes to community moderation practices. (Appropriate changes may vary from community to community and could include techniques such as adding more moderators, replacing certain moderators, creating new rules, employing more aggressive auto-moderation tools, adjusting community styling, etc.) The appeal should also offer evidence of sustained, consistent enforcement of these changes over a period of at least one month, demonstrating meaningful community transformation.
You’ll notice that they do not give specific examples of offending material, or any concrete steps we could take to mitigate this. This is because the phrase misogyny is nebulous and holds a definition only to those who use it. There is no actual definition of misogyny, and therefore no way to defend against it.
Do I hate women? I do not. Do you? I sure would think people who actually hate women probably wouldn’t spend this much time and energy trying to become attractive to women and meeting them. But that’s what you get when words no longer have definitions.
We’ve been accused of an undefined crime, using an unpublished rule book and given a fake set of steps we can take to resolve this problem, all to present a facade of propriety and fairness. I don’t think they’re fooling anybody.
Our Timeline
First of all, I want the community to know we will be appealing this decision. But it’s evident by the setup of the entire event that their private appeals process is a kangaroo court. We will be appealing via Public Letter and we will ensure all response to this will be published. Stay tuned for our appeal.
We will be soft-launching https://Forums.Red posting capabilities over the next week or so, but we will not be locking the forum on reddit. We will be doing this to test stability and new features. Our long-term goal is to stay on Reddit. We are going to do our best to do so, pending administration cooperation.
Notwithstanding, we will be moving forward with an eventual full opening of our trp.red / forums.red platform. We are focused on some major new improvements including the forums, a new tribes feature (for private groups), and more.
We will continue the archival process of /r/TheRedPill, /r/AskTRP, /r/RedPillWomen. We are working our way from top-voteded posts downwards.
If you would like to support our work making this happen and the associated costs, our Patreon is now here.
We also have a bitcoin address for donations. 1Hyyva2G5aCJwNqYToGoCCGATVNMB81zk7
Finally, we are asking moderators of other subs and other reddit members to stand in solidarity with us. Although you may not agree with what we are saying, I believe that we can all unite behind defending free speech and anti-censorship. Because of this we are calling for a massive, reddit-wide boycott, for just 1 hour. November 1st at 4:00pm PDT. Join our petition now
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It really annoys me how hypocritical Reddit admins are. So this platform was built to allow people to share ideas, communicate and help each other .Idk how this subreddit hurts anyone when we clearly follow all the rules . Freedom of Speech ...lol. Fuck off !
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Yeah. Ever since Ellen Pao became CEO (and then was forced out by her peers), reddit has been on a slow decline
Pao was only a fall guy. Especially noted by the consistency of policy there after. The censorship on media platforms is being achieved via something called Corporate Directorate. An alignment of plutocrats who are part of a singular cluster, attached to a plutocratic nexus which facilitates its self interest, which happens to be control of the West.
More apparent in plutocratic clusters such as the Council on Foreign Relations, where even Trump's administration has more then its fair share.
...you mean ever since Aaron Schwartz 'killed' himself.
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Unlikely her leaving was the cause. If anything it was her plan all along and they executed it without her.
You should read about the main original dev and how he was Murde- i mean "suicided" by the powers that be after being framed for a crime he didn't commit. The powers that be knew how powerful this site would become early on and began to infiltrate it and take control IMMEDIATELY.
on Reddit, about 50% of the population are paid shills, it has been this way ever since the powers behind the NeoCons held sway (they backed both Neo Cons and SJWs) now that the NeoCons have lost, they are putting all their chips behind the SJWs. They ALSO infiltrated Voat with racist shills and basically turned Reddit's only viable competition into their personal little KKK website (who have always been backed and funded by those same powers)
Same thing happened to Ron Paul and the Tea Party, except Ron Paul couldn't be bought, so they just infiltrated the tea party and forced the media to outright ignore him and lie about it.
These powers aren't interested in your freedom, they're interested in POWER.
Power behind the scenes, they are the ones who advised Mao, who smuggle Lennin into Russia, who brought Kim Il Sung to power, and who blocked Ho Chi Min from meeting with Kennedy to create a CONSTITUTION and not succumb to communism(and you see how that turned out) they OWN the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, and own every countries' federal reserve banks around the world. People like Soros are just the frontmen, the face of their power, even if you took him down, seven more just like him would pop up in his place.
The systematic destruction of men (particularly white men - I'm black actually, this matters in a second) is on track to mirror the systematic destruction of the Black Community. Only now you all have a blueprint, whereas for Black people, that destruction came like a bolt from the blue, no warning whatsoever. You better believe that those that instigated this fall, are the same ones doing the same thing to. . .every other group of people.
They want to hamstring the men, so that the men don't rise up and change the system again Magna Carta style.
Excellent comment. Too many are walking around with their head in the sand. Just a random look at at history tells us that NO government can ever be trusted to tell the truth.
Damn this was one if the most frightening and eye opening comments I've read here.
That also leads me to believe there is no chance they aren't putting plants and other fake influences here and related subs as well.
Welcome to the rabbit hole that is social engineering.
In our first lesson, we will learn about the multi million$ funded entities that engage in shaping public opinion, as well as the history of the US government in providing the blueprint for these practices.
Your homework will be researching:
Project Mockingbird
MKUltra
Atlantic Council
ShareBlue
Correct the Record
Media Matters
Define these terms:
Astroturfing
Limited Hangout
Psychological Operation
His name is Aaron Swartz, the crime he committed was hacking into JSTORE through MIT servers to distribute scientific journals for free. The case was initially dropped but federal prosecutor charged him with 13 felonies and up to 50 years in prison, He then 'killed' himself from the alleged pressure of the pending prosecution...
He founded reddit on the principles of free speech, there are a few quotes from Aaron that are quite significant relating to this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpvcc9C8SbM
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What "alt-right"? Is that term defined as 'anything you disagree with'?
that's what happens when you become the front page of the internet man.
first comes the traffic numbers... then come to the censorship.
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The way the algos work is that they no longer see the original subreddit in the links as they have to click through a quarantine.
A top quality page all of a sudden being replaced with some random quarantine splash page means it must no longer be relevant, so off the front page it goes.
There's nothing nefarious with that although I wouldn't be surprised to see Google manually intervening where they like.
In this case it's just a side effect of quarantining and normal search engine ranking algos.
emphasis added. And now they want to make money with it and anything that could have an impact on that simply needs to be hidden and removed.
This isn't about liberal ideology but about top management / investors wanting to make money. Do you think companies want to see their ad on a "woman hater page"?
The media is consistently making moves these days that are hurting their own bottom lines. It is foolish to think this all blindly motivated by money - and not power & influence. When all signs are pointing to viewers being tired of the political witch hunts, why are they continuing and getting more ridiculous?
Problem is in trying to make money in the controlling manner that they're doing. They are digging their own grave in terms of market share and future potential profits. I mean this for all the internet giant media companies. YouTube now has a small but serious competitor in STEAM to name the example that first comes to my mind. That competition will only grow with the more people they exclude from their platforms. (as is their right as a private non essential company)
Bad example cause it wasn't this simple but: Don't want to bake a cake for gays? You just opened up a 5% market share that you will never have plus all the other potential customers that will not use your service. Though it works both ways for certain. You just made a Pepsi to your Coke, a decision which will be punished down the long mercilessly.
Is the process for archival automated at all? There has got to be a programmer or 2 that can wip something up to mine every post here and just file dump them to the new website so their not lost.
Me, too. This is obviously an alt-acount, but I've been around for quite a while (as moderator of many controversial places). I agree with many of reddit's decisions (including the outright ban of several places I helped curate as mod/creator) — but not this decision (to quarantine TRP).
This is quarantined, yet other places are not outright-banned?!
It's absolutely ridiculous.
If you agree with banning anything, you're a cuck. Go away.
We have rules against certain content on this sub because it's our space (or was) and we get to say what can be posted on it. Unfortunately the same rules apply to Reddit. The quarantine is bullshit but it's also completely within the admins' rights. They own Reddit, there's no right to freedom of speech in private publications so they can censor whatever they want.
the quarantine made me sub to here, thanks spez
Welcome!
Welcome. Now read the full assortment of sidebar material and try to understand it. If you have any questions, askTRP exists for that. Three major pitfalls to avoid:
Anger. The information on this sub will make many men angry. That’s fine, wallow in it if you want, but rage posts against women are non-constructive.
Oneitis. Another great deal of guys will understand the nature of women and yet compartmentalize an exception for one they think is different. Remember, a particular woman may act against the nature of women discussed here, or you may see plenty of exceptions to the rule, but that does not invalidate the rule.
Incompletion: if you don’t learn the material, fail to understand it, or fail to act on it in improvements to yourself, you may find yourself thinking “TRP doesn’t work”. People saying this end up creating a feedback loop where they say TRP is stupid or effectively concern trolling the ideology in a post, then the sub gets clogged with said shitty posts, and then more people end up saying TRP is stupid.
I think I may be stuck in that last phase, incompletion.
I've read the side bar. I've read top posts. I've read The Manipulated Man. I've read The Rational Male. I've gotten to the point where I understand "AWALT and it's just my turn". And I've absolutely gotten to the point where I know what I want and I next any woman who doesn't offer it. I can sometimes tell when I'm being shit tested and I'll AA or straight ignore it when I recognize it.
That being said. I don't see any of the magnetism people here talk about. I'll have a plate or two, until they get into a LTR they know I'm not willing to offer them. But I don't have these experiences others talk about. I see woman for what they are, but it hasn't made me more successful with women, only happier.
Maybe it's that I live in a small town and so there aren't many people. Maybe it's that I don't go out and approach because my life is fucking busy and I'm working on my career. Maybe it's that I need to lose weight (I weigh about 230 and my BMI is close to 20%. I'm on a recreational sports team, lift five times a week, walk my dog daily.) maybe it's because my subcommunication isn't on point. I use seeking rapport tonality. I laugh at my own jokes. I break tension with laughter. I don't maintain strong eye contact. I move around a lot.
Anyways this is long and drawn out. I guess I just don't care about pursuing women as much, nor dedicating the time out of my busy life to do approaches. Id like to start fucking more and more attractive women but something is clicking
You gave two huge reasons you’re not seeing results. Unless you’re extremely muscular and tall, 230 lbs means lose quite a bit of weight. And living in a small town won’t do you any favors. Sounds like you’re making progress, but there’s some work to do and moves to make
Can I pm you to talk privately?
Sure, go for it. I may be a bit busy soon, but I’ll get back to you
Dude no amount of little tricks are going to make up for lifting and having a solid frame. You have to be solid physically and mentally. If you're not an "8", you're a "2" in women's eyes.
Once you get to the point where you're an 8, you will see a massive amount of attention from the opposite sex. It's almost like a hard line has to be crossed and the results come right away. It took a lot of effort to get to that line. I put in so much work for almost a year with little to no results. But then it happened. For me that hard line was crossed on Halloween 2 years ago. I ended up hooking up with 4 girls that week. It hasn't slowed down for me since.
I kept lifting and kept spinning plates. As my abundance mentality kept getting better, the quality of women kept going up. Now I'm banging some 9's and 10's. I'll still throw some dick at a 7 or 8 though. Women would rather share a good man than to have a shitty one all to themselves.
An additional important point is time and experience. You simply don't learn playing the guitar in 2 month and certainly not from reading books about playing guitar.
Even worse when you learned to play it wrong and first need to unlearn. Simply said it's really a never ending journey at depending where you come from and how old you are will take years.
Me as well. Subbed the day of the Quarantine (I'd been here for ages, just not subbed).
Quarantined for a high degree of misogyny. This is it. The age of Orwell is upon us.
In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell writes:
The man was a goddamn prophet. I wonder how long it will be before you're put on a watchlist for reading his work.
A few years back, Amazon recalled a copy of 1984 by simply deleting it off Kindle e-readers like it disappeared down the proverbial memory hole.
It was then I knew it had begun.
The word "kindle" wasn't a clue?
Omg, I never made that connection until just now. That can't be coincidence?
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Nothing screams male privilege better than this
Is this list compiled anywhere aside from Reddit? I'm on Mobile but would like to use these links in the future.
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Thanks, just what I was looking for.
Hit the reply button to the comment and copy the full text with markdown into a text file. You’ll have all the links then
How do you get the markdown to show up in the reply window?
I’m on mobile, so maybe it’s different
Click "Source" on the original comment then you will get a list of the links.
The reddit admins aren't disputing any of this, they're saying there's a lot of misogyny here. Which is true.
Misogyny used to mean hatred of women. Now it means anything that some woman hates.
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So what?
Who's this "we" ?
If you want a new rule, you can go make a discussion group that has that rule. 'Round here, shit ain't changing, because I happen to like it the way it is.
Not gonna appease them. Or you. Because from where I'm sitting the only difference I can see is that they have root access and you don't. Attitude looks pretty similar.
We have a site already. We'll go there when they delete it from here, but until then, ain't changing shit.
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By what definition of mysogyny?
I already wrote it somewhere else:
If anything, this quarantine would have made me much more curious about this sub.
What sort of ideas and informations could be so powerful, that they have to be hidden from the public eye, because they are able to rattle an adult mind. A mind which belongs to a person which can legally own a gun, take part in votes and can be sent to other countries in the name of their fellow citizens in order to kill other people?
The administration will of course not answer to your invitation and justify their decision publicly. After all this quarantine is their testimony that we are too strong for them and that they have run out of options on how to "defend" against us and that they have run out of arguments and ideas. This is their last ressort that they could justify with a (to them) reasonable amount of mental gymnastics.
Now they are only left with the nuclear option of banning, which will be their complete surrender to us and our ideas.
I am just gonna leave you with cheesy Ghandi:
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
I subbed here the day the quarantine went into effect, and I'll definitely migrate if such measures become necessary. I doubt I was the only one.
The Streisand Effect. This is the sub you’re “not supposed to see.”
This exact phenomenon is the reason I first looked at this sub all those years ago just cuz I had to know what had people so up in arms.
Any time I stumble across a thread on a normal part of reddit where people are discussing TRP, I always link the sub directly so people can easily click and I explicitly emphasize how "forbidden" it is.
You weren't. I had briefly viewed this place before, but when it was quarantined I took a good look at it, and subscribed. I think I belong here.
At this point I really don’t even give a shit if I’m banned from this site. I’m tired of all the liberal censorship. I can’t be a better man, I can’t have goals and I can’t be Republican because it’s toxic to think differently than other people.
Reddit is the the new symbol of bigotry.
Well every mainstream media has become the new symbol. Guess what happens when you search up CringeAnarchy in google. Google actually straight up refuses to show the actual CringeAnarchy subreddit and won't even list it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial
Leftists never win debates. Most of them truly belive they have the truth on their side, but they never test that belief. Instead, they say "because I'm right, I'm not going to listen to you, and because you're wrong, I'm going to 'deplatform' you."
Blue pillars will read my words here and circlejerk that they don't have to debate, or straw man that there's no debate to be had with "bigotry" but those are just excuses to hide the fact that they can't defend the things they believe. There's a whole subreddit for debate, purplepilldebate. If they post there they'll get trounced. Happens all the time. Blue pillars, if you find the courage to post there, PM me so I can watch. But I doubt you that's going to happen.
Engage more, please.
I've wanted to see you in action ever since I came across this post.
What makes guys like you and Whisper and Archwinger next level is how articulate you are. Really a pleasure to read your stuff.
Thanks man. I appreciate it!
Long time TRP viewer here, never commented but I just made this throwaway. Can someone explain how TRP.Red works? I went there expecting it to be essentially the same thing as this but when you click on the red pill tab at the top it is just archived posts.
Am I missing something or is that all that the new forum is going to be? Seems like the mods have been pushing people hard to move over there but I'm not seeing where the actual new posts are (not counting the status updates on the home page). Will the red pill tab at the top become active once reddit finally shuts TRP down for good?
Also, fuck this censorship. We've truly never seen anything like this in the west before. I will never forgive the leftists for this. They aren't just people with a difference of opinion. They are tyrants, and I consider them to be my personal enemies from now until the day I die.
Our sister site is the (currently locked) forums: https://www.forums.red/i/theredpill
Will there be some point at which that forum becomes active after this one is shut down? I guess it doesn't make sense to split the community while this Reddit forum is still active. Also just a heads up, I used to get here by just typing in "Red Pill" into the google search bar and this was the first thing to show. It doesn't show up at all now. Seems that google must be coordinating with Reddit on this one.
Thank you for all you work to keep this thing going. I don't know or care if this is all volunteer work for you or if you are profiting in any way. Just keep fighting.
Interesting, I also see it is not in the search results like normal. It is still the first result on Bing and DuckDuckGo. We may have been de-listed by Google perhaps.
Either way, I wouldn't search using Google, they do a lot of nefarious things with your search data. Same reason not to use Chrome as a browser.
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I did some more technical analysis on this. (Heads up for /u/SlyGradient)
Reddit has not changed
robots.txt. Instead, quarantined subreddits are removed fromSiteMap.xml. More importantly, Reddit servers are replying with error code 403 (Forbidden) to requests sent by search engines to quarantined subreddits (at least to googlebot). This causes them to quickly remove those links. Also, links from and to here are broken, because the quarantine warning stops the search engine from seeing the contents of posts and links in them.No active action from Google, I think. Althoigh it's a bit suspicious that the link was gone so quickly. However, not all links to trp subreddit are removed from search results. Still, for your privacy, please do not use Google products, especailly when browsing "sensitive" content like trp.
I think quarantine subs are deliberately avoided by Google. It is literally the dark web.
Reddit probably tries to block search engines from them. Remember that to see anything besides an apparent error page, you have to be logged in with a verified email address. Do you think Googlebot does that?
What browser do you recommend?
The newer versions of Firefox are a reasonable choice, if you adjust its settings (you can look up how online). Also Tor and Epic. DuckDuckGo is a safer search method than Google.
Firefox
I'm currently using Brave in conjunction with DuckDuckGo. Uninstalled Chrome.
No problems for me
As per my announcement above:
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Bizarre that a man could be leftist and red pilled. Your own side literally hates you. The Reddit SJW mods are not some small cadre that exists separately from the average leftist. Their views are aligned and the average leftist fully supports the actions of his leaders.
We've taken the red pill, so we have to deal with agent smith.
If path is easy you are on wrong one.
I think you touch some deep truth.
By taking the red pill there isn't any going back to the illusion the world has brought over our eyes.
I've always loved how perfect that analogy is. Agent Smith. Leader of the leftist #MeToo movement.
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I'm delighted to learn you are appealing this decision and seeking public backing for that appeal.
It may feel like the SJW voices are running the world, but I believe that's only because they shout the loudest, causing organisations to feel pressure and react accordingly. Vastly most people are right-thinking and understand the importance of due process, innocence until proof of guilt, fairness and freedom of speech.
At present, none of those have been permitted in this case. Decisions should be taken on facts, rules and truth, not on reputations and hearsay—and people understand that. So it can and should be understood by both Reddit and by the wider public that this subreddit should be reinstated, notwithstanding that the supposed and alleged content of this sub might not easily fit into today's media's narrative of what is "acceptable".
I'm prepared to suspend judgement and believe that Reddit have listened to too many of the wrong voices and made a wrong decision this time—a decision that is reversible. Perhaps Hanlon's razor applies: Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Reminds me of something I wrote a few years back regarding Feminists and Progressives: Meaningless Words Create Meaningless Ideals
Wow, that's a really nice phrase when people redefine words, but expect them to still incite the same reaction.
I'm definitely going to start using it.
Nice essay. It puts a lot of things into perspective.
If you can't win against other ideas, it's just easier to censor and kill them
You can't kill an idea.
Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere.
Sadly, I think, Reddit is not going to un-quarantine the sub. This would mean admitting they made a mistake.
The leftist user base would lose their shit
What percentage is that of total? I always assumed the progressive activists was just a vocal minority
I dunno, but doesn't matter. They're vocal, they're who Reddit listens to. And likely, they're who Reddit's staff ARE.
That's the problem. They are the minority, but they are vocal. Very vocal. They shout bloody murder for anything that doesn't go their way, which is apparently enough to intimidate site admins all over the internet, because rest assured that Reddit is not the only place this sort of stuff is happening.
Its not a mistake. They know exactly what they're doing (and tbf from business perspective it makes a LOT of sense).
This is simply a foreplay for ban.
Reddit admins: I was wrong, but you were more wrong...
You need to declare and officialize the alternate, back up platform, make it known to everybody, now, so that you reach a maximum of users and in the event of a full ban we don't lose the whole community. We know this quarantine is not getting lifted. We can try. But there's 99.99% chances either we stay quarantined, or it gets worse and the sub is deleted. So act now.
Make sure you register on our offsite backup site! https://www.trp.red
I think you should also promote the forum https://www.forums.red/i/TheRedPill/ as I believe 'casual' users will be more drawn to it.
I would request that all posts made by Vanguards, Senior ECs, ECs, and pointed members be saved first before saving the posts in order of votes.
They have more important things to say than the riff-raff. The SNR has gone way way down since the inception of TRP and I would much prefer seeing the efforts of those who truly walked the path saved over those who only digested a smidgen and decided it was enough to garner some internet points by making a clickbait article.
EDIT: Also, fuck reddit. My vote goes with finding our own platform. Whatever we can do to get back on our feet without reddit is what we have to do. They're going to ban us /u/redpillschool. This chickenshit debate and petition (which I signed) isn't going to help. Reddit broke up with us. This call to debate seems like neediness. Reddit don't want us no more? Fine. Let's fuckin' figure it out on our own. Reddit is a giant cunt with oozing sores anyway.
Erin Prizzey, the 'inventor' of domestic violence shelters for women in the west showed that abuse is more or less equal between the genders. When she reported the female side, she was attacked by the system. IIRC, they killed her dog. She also stated that she saw a change in the feminist movement from legitimate reasons to being a weaponized movement for political agendas.
Never heard of her? a woman who has done more good than any person before her for the female gender? There's a reason.
She sounds like a modern day Florence Nightingale.
No, she didn't watch it change. She just finally realized what it had always been, but refused to take off the rose colored glasses.
funny enough, i was becoming misogynist BEFORE i discovered this subreddit but TRP actually helped me understand the whats and whys and now i dont hate women anymore (no more than men), i think TRP saved me from a dangerous path, where i could have ended up like a real "misogynist-incel" that they make us to be
its been a good run, thanks folks
How can you sleep at night knowing you’re so full of shit lmaoooo
"It's my fault she hit me. I know how mad she gets when I leave the seat up. I shouldn't have provoked her. I know she really loves me, but she's under a lot of stress right now."
They don’t want men discovering the true Redpill. Stockholm syndrome can be used to ones advantage in relationships. Battered wife syndrome is a thing.
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Are you not worried that MRP is next for the chopping block?
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with main TRP flagged down and moving, you can bet married red pill will hang out in trp.red too
Tbf, the content at MRP is far better. More self inflection based rather than blaming everyone else for the "fall of man/masculinity".
Also, less "misogynistic" language
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Doesn't hurt that to post, there's a long reading list to get through (unless an OP is prepared to get turned over for their stupidity) rather than a simple 24 hour waiting period.
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https://www.forums.red/i/theredpill
Just noticed that this doesn't show up until the 2nd google page when searching for the 'the red pill' :(
forums.red
As much as you are correct, I am pretty sure admins only care about articles written about Reddit. Most negative outside articles on Reddit reference a few places like TRP as "toxic". Admins only care for the outside word to see their place as curated. And they likely let T_D live cause they encourage gold purchases (i.e. direct revenue to them) unlike TRP which rarely encourages such bribing.
CEOs have changed since 2012:
http://gawker.com/5952349/reddit-ceo-speaks-out-on-violentacrez-in-leaked-memo-we-stand-for-free-speech
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The only reason I didn't go MGTOW is because MGTOW is merely a rational choice to a shit situation, a treatment of the symptoms. TRP is not only a rational choice to a shit situation, but has answers that point out the cause of the shit situation, that is to say, a potential treatment of the disease. MGTOW offers no answers, only solace.
I fully respect MGTOW because they, at the very least, have decided not to play the game, even though the game will always exist.
Do you always start random fights with people from opposing viewpoints?
Let the man believe what he wants to believe.
Despite what they’ll tell you, hatred is a very important and useful emotion. Learn it.
I found this sub a year ago because I was looking for answers (via Google) to issues I was having in my relationship with my LTR. This sub not only helped me with those issues but has helped me in almost every other area of my life. If there is something wrong with taking control of your own life, being a man and calling the shots in your relationships and asking for what you want with confidence in this world then Reddit and its admins must be a bunch of giant pussies. And given the censorship of this material then those who have found and embraced TRP are better off for it.
Long time lurker here. I bet there's a lot of us out there. I wasn't subscribed to this sub; I wasn't even a reddit account holder. Now I'm both. We can't see how many are subscribed, but the admins can. Let's make that number go up. Show them what they're really messing with. Also, lets support the folks working on giving us trp.red. If TRP made as much difference to your life as it did to mine, put your $$ on it.
If you claim to be a red pill man, you are obligated to defend our reputation as men.
Fight censorship, fuck bias.
All opposing forces have gained momentum merely because men who have value say and do nothing.
There are figurative and also tangible benefits to be gained by having traditional masculinity within our culture.
Be a man, and do something.
I haven't had TRP on my feed for a while. But I still think of myself as a TRP graduate. TRP has done a lot for me, got me to pick myself up when I was down. I still visit when I need a dose of realism.
Meanwhile the SJW's have done nothing but ruin movie and game franchises. They picket hearings and seminars. They are female vulnerability and paranoia run amok. 'If you aren't explicitly in support of me no matter what, then you are facist, toxic and evil.' Yet the only thing facist and toxic on today's political spectrum are those lefties who throw those words around without care.
They would do well to remind themselves what facism actually means the next time they try to force their ideological narrative onto a company or school. They are literally the political left's equivalent of the KKK or Westborough Baptist Church.
So yeh. Have my re-sub, have my vocal support, and take my donation.
I appreciate the work in backing everything up, it must be a bitch but you are doing God’s work. Also, if they really wanted us to talk about Positive Masculinity, I thought we already had Rollo covering the stuff . I bought his books in hard copy, and they have been one of my best purchases to date.
Reddit would do well to remember other social media platforms that were here today and gone tomorrow.
I heard Eric Weinstein on Rubin's say something that rings well with this: "safe space {quarantine} isn't designed to protect the individual {whoever was offended} but rather the ideology {masculinity is toxic} when they know it can't be defended with facts in a reasonable debate" (paraphrased).
I subbed here due to the quarantine. Not that I had anything against the movement. But rather felt like I'm personally doing alright. But if they want to suppress men, well, fuck em. I hope the numbers rise. It was a small simple work around to get this on my mobile app so here I am. Full support, my dudes.
And where did you learn of the Q?
/r/reclassified
I'm looking at this patreon and it's fucking abysmal. Come on guys. Think about all the good TRP has done for you. That's gotta be worth $6 or $15 a month. That's like skipping a few cups of coffee or two subway sandwhiches
Remember boys, Reddit is a place for effeminate, pathetic, worthless men only, any sort of positive view on masculinity must be removed.
This is complete bullshit that we are quarantined now
I would gladly migrate to another site, Reddit just banned my favorite subs... Time to next reddit.
I don't wanna get political BUT I really hope this is a WAKE UP CALL for all of you to go vote in the Midterms. I'm a pretty liberal guy, originally from CA but I'm now in Texas and I'm voting straight GOP here and I don't even agree with everything they are about. HOWEVER, when it comes to all this BANNING I've seen through out social media, it's always mostly targeting one political group/ideology. We need to push back!
The more you try to keep people away from something, the more you want to rebel against being told what to do. Like in The Lion King when Simba goes to the Elephant Graveyard after being told he must never go there by Mufasa. Except in that case, Mufasa genuinely cared for Simba's well being and wanted him to be safe and sound. The Reddit Admin's responsible for this censorship/Spez Dispenser don't care about men at all, even if they deny it. They put pussy on a pedestal and can't stand it when others, like this sub, try to do women a solid by taking them OFF the pedestal and treat them like human beings. Whatever happens, I support this sub's right to be here.
That little message I received about redirecting me elsewhere for "Positive masculinity" is why I subscribed! 5 minutes ago I didn't even know about this place. Was linked from somewhere else. Bookmarked! ;)
Not surprised at all to hear the real positive masculinity being attacked. The pussicification of reddit is in full affect.
Reddit admins are losers (and most of reddit for that matter), plain and simple. In a world where losers lose and winners win, there is no place for them. They know this, they are just trying to deny reality.
I can't believe everyone is surprised TRP was quarantined. It was bound to happen sooner or later. This is a time when we must come together to keep our ideas alive. We have the right to voice our viewpoints and to communicate with each other.
As complete BS as this situation is, this sub wasnt quarantined for ''ideology''
It was quarantined simply because to mainstream media it's controversial and thus fucks with reddit's PR and advertising (just like watchpeopledie and cringeanarchy). Its a purely business decision while they prepare for IPO.
All ''debates'' and appeals can do, is buy time, so hopefully once ban comes, tpr.red can fully take over. Good luck guys.
Not agreeing that its the only reason, but its definitely a plausible factor. Have my upvote.
Reddit can eat shit and die, like Digg.
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Man I remember a couple of years ago making a thread that predicted exactly this.
Good. 300k is too many anyway.
Were still here, we’ll share TRP with men we meet in real life, we shall overcome
Maybe it's RES or something, but TRP shows up on my normal feed, just with a quarantine label.
FYI, I am using Apollo under iOS, and I can still see the subreddit and its posts. Plus, the posts still come up in my general feed.
Of course, I am subscribed. I know at least two other people who tried to subscribe after the quarantine and couldn’t.
I use Reddit Enhancement Suite addon for chrome and it allows me to click a link at the top to enter TRP or any other sub I've favorited.
what i find weird is the timing of this.. why NOW.
I remember a few years ago we have chairman pao going around and banning everyone like it was nothing. we survived that. why not out of the blue though? i don't get it
It's not out of the blue. Orders from on high across all social media. Lots of banning going on.
i meant this sub. but why now? did they collectively get together and just start banning or?
What do you think they talk about at Davos, Jackson Hole, Bohemian Grove, etc.?
They exchange sure-thing stock/currency trading tips, and decide how to fuck us better.
Im coming from my timeline did they unquarantine the sub?
It's cool, let them destroy themselves. This will weed out the weak and show who's willing to look for change. Now that this is hidden. No one has to know the ways to success. While we're here living it up, they'll suffer harder than we ever did as time goes on.
It was nice knowing you on Reddit.
See you on the other site, after the inevitable ban-hammer has struck.
Did I recall seeing an easy download link to the sidebar for your own library? or am I just being lazy?
I've been a victim of domestic violence.
I made it resolutely clear to her that this is her only warning, next time I'm calling the cops and filing a police report. Luckily that put an end to it so far. Also luckily, I saw it coming and was able to put my hands up to defend myself or I would've wound up in the hospital
Edit: /u/Spez, why do you hate men? I also want you to hear this: censorship is the modern-day book burning. You are aiding/enabling/leading brownshirt tactics.
Are you able to just leave? If there are children involved I understand the difficulty. But really, to stoop to their level and call the government? Never call the police.
Consider being a sovereign man and simply retreat to another home/apartment.
Best wishes and you're not alone.
it was shortly after I was redpilled, about 2.5 years ago now. It's been a hard transition for the wife keep up with, she's fought it every step of the way. If I knew it would've taken this long to get her on board, I'd have left her right away. I had logistics reasons to not divorce at the time that are hard to explain that have since resolved. Still, I should have left with the kid for a night or two regardless.
I haven't had to follow up on that threat, but wouldn't I want to be the one filing a police report? I'm thinking it would be a useful record for the custody battle.
Police report? Frankly that's acting like the female; running to daddy government for help.
Better to do a family/friends intervention.
Better to lose as a man, than to win using their shitty tactics, imho.
I'm no victim. I'm taking charge. But long term what is best for my kids? For me to have at least 50% custody, and to do that, a police really will help.
Also, at this point I've laid it out as a clear consequence
Ask around for a good father's divorce lawyer. Wish i could be more helpful and if you disagree with my advice, as a man, feel free to do whatever you know is best for you.
Holly crap. That jackass is so full of shit. In the interview he flat out lied and said mens rights activists want to define and abolish all domestic abuse centers.
Note how they've framed it.
"We've already decided you're guilty; there is no avenue of appeal or discussion on this point. The avenue of appeal is to explain how you're going to change your ways".
I was wondering why I got that message. Funny thing is I usually just do my drop down on the main page but I was lazy so just typed "redp" so it'd show up in the address bar. Wild!!!
If i donate on patreon, will my information be shared? I see that it asks for a first name and last name, and I am a private individual.
I believe you can mark your profile as private before donating. I will see your email address and username however, so make a new one. Email addresses aren't shared publicly with the community to the best of my knowledge.
https://patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203913579-Can-I-be-anonymous-
Already did, and already contributing. Keep up the good work
The murder figure is a red herring. Who commits most of those murders? Nearly always other men. Weakens your point.
I would guess that the men doing the murders aren't the ones who have been murdered (or it would be a suicide stat). Therefore the men who are murdered are no less victims, regardless of who commits them.
There's a thought in my mind, I don't know what it leads to, but here it is:
You can be sure they're collecting data on all of our discussions surrounding this recent event. As I'm sure they've been doing so all along. I'm sure they're analysing the frequency of particular words and phrases we're using, response times, etc. Don't think we're irrelevant enough so that they won't care about our group behaviors. What they conclude about us as a group, I wonder about, but I'm certain nothing actually representative of the "underlying" content of this sub.
The admins and data teams can profile you and concur a lot more than you'd think about your personality, whereabouts (ip address isn't always representative), and many other things based on established behavioral patterns.
Whatever's going on, they're giving us time (maybe not entirely purposefully), to further inspect the trends happening right now. Times are changing and information surrounding that is extremely valuable. With its help, people en mass can be manipulated to act certain ways. What this means for us, I have no idea. But I have faith in our mods, as they are very good at anticipating scenarios, and I am certain they've thought about these things too.
This is a power play many of us have no idea about the details of. All we can do is listen carefully and remain rational in our decisions. Strength is in numbers, like the 300k we are now.
You are right, the all seeing AI is anal-yzing.
As complete BS as this situation is, this sub wasnt quarantined for ''ideology''
It was quarantined simply because to media it's "controversial" and thus fucks with reddit's PR and advertising (just like r/watchpeopledie and r/cringeanarchy). Its a purely business decision while they prepare for IPO.
All ''debates'' and appeals can do, is buy time, so hopefully once ban comes, tpr.red can fully take over.
Good luck guys.
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I'm sure you can imagine that you'll change no minds by readily admitting at the beginning of your hollow critique that you've done none of the requisite reading before spouting off.
Which is why we're unfazed by most of the naysayers that "stumble" in. You haven't demonstrated even a cursory working knowledge of our topic, but you profess to have the corrected answers to our problems.
I don't see any reason why I'd have to remove your comment. You and your "waifu" speak for yourselves - ignorant and self-important. Try reading and understanding a group before shouting them down.
And don't think because you heard somewhere that we're all evil misogynists that you have even half a clue what we're about. You clearly do not.
lol you baby nerds seriously deleted every single comment I posted? Get laid y'all.
Stop roleplaying the Chad life and Chad-Up. A true Chad knows that feminists are better in bed.
Eat Pizza. Go skateboarding. Woke pussy is tighter, bruhhh
oops nevermind guess they weren't deleted. just blocked by the quarantine. the other stuff i said is still valid tho