Cities : Utopia or Concentration Camp?

perrolo · 2016-04-13T18:00:22+00:00

Growing up in rural Spain I can atest to this post, it's always the more cosmopolitan, urban minded girls that go longer for the cock carrousel. Men and women that grew up in the city aren't as traditional and more "liberal", which means more hypergamy, cuckoldry...

dave_is_not_here · 2016-04-13T17:07:14+00:00

The city is a utopia for my dick and a concentration camp for my mind and soul.

I live in the country. Own 21 acres of paradise in Nor Cal. Travel north to fuck hippie road trash, mostly. During trim season they come to me, but for the most part I don't like them around unless I NEED them around. Usually when I hire some hippie/hipster road kid, I'll nail his road dog (a.k.a. road slut, road gash, you get the idea, they're not exactly upset when me and a few buddies gangbang the whore). Local country women are all on their own carousel. All the best looking women out here have the emptiest of thousand cock stares; getting pounded into oblivion by an entire county's worth of cowboys is way rougher on their souls than any city slicker bullshit. The lower value hillbilly sluts, white trash, tweaker trash and local Native trash (nobody knows how to exploit the masses for the benefit of a tiny aristocracy like the Karuk and Yurok, lemme tellya) have it even worse, having been broken open by the Mexican and Lao immigrant populations. My buddy's grand daughter, with three kids from two little brown tweakers at age 20, doesn't even smile when she laughs.

Fuck the city. Fuck Agenda 21. And Fuck the government of the County of Siskiyou, California for being it's bitch and working tirelessly to force my chapped, pot farming hillbilly ass off my slice of heaven.

MGHOW_ATL · 2016-04-13T14:56:07+00:00

This is advice which may not resonate with our younger brothers. I grew up on a small western KS farm, couldn't wait to get to civilization etc.

25 years later I want nothing more than to go back to a rural village and live a quiet uncomplicated life with good local friends. But I had to leave the small, experience the big, and reflect on which ultimately served me better.

The City (any major city) is amazing; more of everything - opportunity and danger. You can make bank easier and get it stolen easier. You can do whatever you want whenever you want, but so can everyone else. People do not view each other with the same humanity or simple politeness. Convenience is an insidious concept that steals life and important options away from the individual, to the benefit of corporate entities and the larger political-social structures.

Wanna be a major politician, financier or entertainer? City. Most of the rest of life activity can be had quieter, cheaper, and simpler in a smaller town.

Glad I went to the city to make some money and experience a different kind of life. But now it's time to take the chips off the table and go find a home community at least 2 gas tanks away from any city center.

NaughtyFred · 2016-04-13T14:30:13+00:00

You know what Mega City One is, Dredd? It's a fucking meat grinder. People go in one end, and meat comes out the other. All we do is turn the handle.

Quote from the very rp movie Dredd

pfffft_comeon · 2016-04-13T15:04:38+00:00

All I can add to this that after living in a small town in an eastern european country and moving to it's capital the amount of hipsters and men who project weakness is staggering. There's more testosterone in a vagina than in those men.

truthyego · 2016-04-13T15:26:17+00:00

Well technically the whole world is becoming one big prison and we aren't just aware of it. I remember one post said the reason we aren't rebelling is because our basic needs are being met. And yeah I know all about Agenda 21 and the like and the funny part is that even those alphas you described are also nothing more than slaves. The guys at the very top are our jailers, they are the ones who can change the rules by merely a whim, they are the ones who can make us poor or rich.

Soon cities will be glorified concentration camps. I mean with all those hollowpoint bullets bought and the potential for different districts, it is becoming the Hunger Games little by little. It doesn't matter how much money you make though, because you will still be a slave but you can at least live happily with what you have.

As for women, they are even more clueless about this potential future. These feminist and social justice warriors are a conglomerate of the crab mentality. The only difference is that they have powerful people who encourage their crab mentality. You want to be red pilled and live a better life get rid of your slave and victimhood complex mentality and then you will see just how much better you will be.

Also, remember that in the scheme of all things these so called social issues are just a smokescreen for the impending disaster that is headed our way. Once it does, we will be the only ones who can thrive.

RunawayGrain · 2016-04-13T17:26:17+00:00

Yeah, any of the metro areas in the south are full of small town girls that watched sex and the city and got ideas. The thing is that theses girls would be the hottest girls in the small town they are from, and come with all the entitlement that entails.

That's only half the fun, though. After she's done divorce raping the beta buxx, many of these girls will move home. The aftermath of that usually involves her getting tossed around like a dog toy by the few well off guys around town before she either secures a position with a local company that is just a front for banging the boss, or she secures small town beta buxx #2 and drains him.

aiguo888 · 2016-04-13T16:56:02+00:00

Big cities offer access to much more women, entertainment and a much freer lifestyle as you're pretty anonymous however it comes at a high cost for those who aren't in the top 20% of earners or so and more often than not keeps many broke well into their 30s.

In the extreme case of London its merely a place to work for the vast majority of workers as they'll never be able to afford to buy an apartment there which start at about 600k USD in central London.

The big city also draws much more undesirables and there have been plenty of cases where the government couldn't keep this under control (i.e. LA riots where koreans had to defend themselves as the cops were unwilling to do so), so this is also the first place where shit hits the fan more often than not.

Small cities are boring, however you'll be able to afford your own place relatively easily and unless you work a top tier career chances are you'll be able to save more than in the big city as well.

If you're entrepreneurial this can be a good place to bootstrap instead of getting raped by investors with unfavorable terms that know you're broke and have no way to fund your own business.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-04-13T16:47:45+00:00

I'm tired of being a nice guy. I used to actually pray to god that i should be a 'nice guy' which almost made me quit suicide. One night i was standing in my balcony after 2 bottles of white wine thinking 'it won't hurt, and i would be dead on impact'. I remember thinking 'you've tried everything, people just don't respect you, they continue to make fun of you, women don't even notice you're there'

I grabbed the handle of my balcony and a STRONG voice just reached out and said 'HARBY wake up'. Harby means warrior in my language, i kept hearing that word 'HARBY' where the fuck are you. I was so scared i went back in and on the floor of my apartment i was losing it. That's how i got here, that night i realized 'nice guy' 'religion' and everything i was taught was imprisoning me, it ALMOST drove me to suicide, it did many times but that night was the closest thing I've ever came to it.

That was a year ago today.... A year since something inside 'snapped' and told me to get off the balcony and get my shit together. I understand now, this is a complicated world, and nice guys don't get shit. As ARI GOLD once said 'nice guy are in the unemployment line' pure gold that Ari.

RedPoseidon · 2016-04-13T15:20:34+00:00

This post contains good insights, Neo.

I see this dynamic everyday. I live outside a major American city, and work right in the center of the city's financial district. It is astonishing the difference in the social structure within the city limits and the further out you go.

Every single woman I've meet or worked with in the city either is clearly on the CC, or is generally not of an acceptable SMV to take the ride, and thus spews feminist gibberish every moment.

I will say that your assessment that most young men in cities give off the classical beta behavioral traits is reasonably accurate. Most of my male co-workers lack what I would call an identity, as in they simply begin to copy whoever they perceive to be the alpha, albeit on an extremely superficial level.

Su-Wu_Red · 2016-04-13T15:16:00+00:00

I like a balance. If I spend too much time in a city I feel claustrophobic. Then I take a break in the country for a while, recharge, then get back to the play the game and further my life goals.

I get OP's instinct that there is something amiss in cities. I wouldn't have described it this way but there's something there. I suspect one source of anxiety/dread for people in cities is the competitive aspect of it. Look at a place like NYC. You can be as talented and as hardworking as ever, but understand that no matter how much you strive, you will never make it into the tippy top tier - think Leo/Buffet/hedge fund bro. That's a demoralizing thought. Whereas in smaller places you can get into that equivalent layer with enough work ethic and smarts.

Economists have touched on this concept with regards to how some our happiness/life satisfaction comes from how we view ourselves vs. those around us. That's why social media is a nightmare for most coz they compare their 10 likes on a picture with Kim K who gets that many likes per nanosecond.

Also I should add - not all cities are the same in making you feel dreadful. Eg: I can't stand NYC but I love London.

TheDonald2k16 · 2016-04-13T18:22:10+00:00

I live in Seattle and I hate it. Before coming here I lived in Iowa, Texas, and suburban Las Vegas. Living in a city sucks ass, give me suburban/rural any day of the week.

GuitarHero07 · 2016-04-13T13:45:49+00:00

And what is the alternative? Move out to the country? There are slim pickings and any remotely attractive girl will either be wifed up or single-mommied.

Let's also not forget that there are generally fewer job prospects, fewer like-minded individuals to meet, fewer activities available when you have free time and fewer business opportunities.

[deleted] · 2016-04-13T16:00:27+00:00

Cities used to be where you went to get a good paying job. Now they are little more than human storage facilities. The fastest rising job markets in the dilapidated rust belts (where steel used to be made in vast quantities) is caring for older people.

Cities have outlived their usefulness. I have clients who are from major cities. They maintain a residence in them but most prefer to live outside of major cities as even their clients, customers, and competition have started to trickle out of the cities. And the one-on-one contact that used seal deals by being Johnny-on-the-spot has been replaced by proposals, virtual meetings, and auditors and attorneys reviewing contracts.

Cities are not necessary anymore for those seeking success.

TheDonald2k16 · 2016-04-13T18:24:16+00:00

I live in Seattle and I hate it. Before coming here I lived in Iowa, Texas, and suburban Las Vegas. Living in a city sucks ass, give me suburban/rural any day of the week.

FrozenSoil · 2016-04-13T19:55:06+00:00

I live in a very rural town, just over 1k people to be exact, with close proximity to a city of around 80k.

Lifestyle alone is a dramatic difference and one that I absolutely support for anyone. You don't have conveinence, you don't have ease. You have to make decisions and plan your life even somewhat as its 30 minutes round trip to the nearest grocery store. You have to plan and be somewhat self sufficient, but what you lose in conveince you gain in peace of mind.

I've left my house unlocked with no fear of things being stolen, hell, I left a new snowblower outside my garage and it's never been moved. Women are of decent quality, though not always the best looking, and most look for LTRs over ONS, there's still a stigma attached to single mothers via slutty behavior. Activity is mostly what you make it, you can easily hit bars in the bigger college town nearby to get something easy. Jobs are decent and somewhat plentiful if you're a good worker.

Will you be rich? Probably not, though your access to markets is easy enough to start your own business if you want to go that way.

Living in cities has the singular benefit of convenience, and there's something to be said about that. All in all though, the ease of life in rural areas is unbeatable. The people are what make it.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-04-13T23:22:31+00:00

When I finally met some people outside of the city a.k.a. on the country side I was shocked. Here were this genetically inbred farmers, real ugos, fatasses and dumbasses who actually got laid more than my pretty boy beta friends. Hell even my manly friends were doing worse. Everyone I knew in the city did worse.

These guys were possibly slightly taller but lacked anything else. They were the definition of ugly and fat and you'd know without a shadow of a doubt that they'd be spit out in the cauldron that is the urban environment. Around here guys with such low SMV won't fly.

Funniest thing was seeing how these guys maintained a reasonable frame and possible alpha attitude until they got into a highly competitive environment like a big party in my city. Total breakdown.

In fact I'd dare say that everyone who's grown up in the countryside can't handle a true urban environment. And everyone in the city can't stand the countryside. It maddened me personally.

If some stranger stalk talking to you in the city it means trouble one way or another. So you keep your guard up and move between familiar social settings. Any stranger on the way there could be a possible threat. People out there just greet you and start cracking jokes. Couldn't get used to this because I was convinced they wanted to fight me half the time.

The low competition is also ironically uneasy. You see this playground where half the women are for the picking and 80% of the man suck balls. But you feel a certain sense of unease. Like their 'easy simple living' will rub off on you. Making you become like them.

El_Diablito · 2016-04-14T15:04:28+00:00

I was thinking about this post last night and wanted to throw in my two bits and how you can and should take a different approach to the game when you're in a city environment.

I've been in New York for nearly my entire life and have lived 35 years here. I completely agree about how toxic Sex and the City was and how delusional it made women thinking they could move here and live lavishly on a modest income. It's not just about having $60,000 worth of shoes (as the unrealistic lead character probably has on that show) but mostly what people want when they come here is to be part of a scene, be invited to parties, meet A-B listers, movers and shakers, etc...

I want to offer a counter idea to those that think they should just work their ass off to try and buy their way into status here. You can obtain high social status by being significant in nearly any social scene, not just the money scene. You have to be social, confident, outgoing and know how to network though. There are so many transplants and transients here and people are pretty lonely and eager to meet people and experience new things.

There were so many things that I have been involved with over the years and it has always presented opportunities to meet women and to meet them while I was in high social regard. Here are some examples:

My friends and I started a group guitar class at a downtown loft space. It started out as a sausage fest playing Metallica but it evolved and became a potluck, BYOB sing/play along thing and went to 85% females and classic acoustic songs. Nearly every girl who joined was a relatively recent transplant and we provided the social outlet.
Dinner club. We put together home cooked meals where everyone contributed and we'd spend the night eating, drinking and hanging out. The core of group was my close friends and we allowed people to invite others if they'd vouch for them. Again, this group became nearly 65% women and a lot of people who joined were new to the city.
One of my friends was a party promoter and we'd go to his events and he'd let us let in for free any cute girls we wanted. It's funny but being able to let some girls skip the line and not have to pay a bullshit cover charge made you look like the man.
Friends of mine taught a Latin dance class where we'd also organize socials and outgoings. A lot of women have on their bucket list to learn how to really dance, especially something sexy like salsa so plenty of women were always joining up.

The thing is you don't have to be in the 20% of everything but if you want to impress you should be in the 20% of something. Also, as you notice you need other people who have shit going on in their lives so you have a healthy social life - otherwise you're just another random swinging dick.

ELLEN_POO · 2016-04-13T16:49:24+00:00

The top 20% are all Red Pill aware and Machiavellian.

BS. Celebs such as ryan gosling or ryan reynolds are not red pill aware nor machiavellian. They have looks, good social skills, very high status and a lot of money. That's all they need. They don't need to trick women with machiavellian tactics or redpill strategy. Try making a fake female tinder account and interact with these so called "top 20%" (use whatever standards you want, money, looks, and so on) and try and see how redpill they really are.

He surrenders his Freedom (what little if any he had) and becomes an innocent wage slave. He figures if he can just "catch up" to the Alpha men then he can stimulate the Hypergamy of women and get them to desire Access to him. He wants to be important.

This discussion is only meaningful when you don't just criticize the city, but also compare the city to its alternative, which is either small towns or farmlands. Even if you're not in a city you'll be most likely still a workcel (workcel = a wageslave who is celibate or in other words an incel with a job), except the jobs in the periphery of a country pay much less. Small towns have less women. Most cities have a surplus of women. But what is better for the beta? Living around hypergamous women riding the CC or living around very little attractive women? Very debateable.

But there is a problem and it's name is Hypergamy.

And you think this problem did not exist before cities? At best cities amplify the hypergamy phenomenon, you even said so yourself. The shitty workcel beta that lives in the city will still be a shitty workcel beta in the countryside. Why should things magically change? Your SMV doesn't go up from moving out of the city it goes down.

Agenda 21 seeks to concentrate everyone into cities.

Not really. People are free to live where they want. In the US, buying a home in some far away place in the midwest should be cheap as fuck. People aren't sought to leave the countryside, they want the opportunities that cities have to offer.

jwquiroz · 2016-04-13T15:13:58+00:00

Whenever a woman commented in a conversation that she watches Sex &City regularly then I got laid with her. It never failed

cariboo_j · 2016-04-13T19:10:58+00:00

I read in Industrial Revolution era England illegitimate births skyrocketed. People were moving from small rural communities where everyone knew everyone to big cities where they were essentially anonymous cogs in the factory machines.

Social accountability disappeared so the proles just ejected 1000+ years of religiously enforced sexual mores.

TermsOfColors · 2016-04-13T23:05:22+00:00

I don't know what Agent 21 is or any of that stuff. A lot of this seems sort of extreme but I sort of agree with parts of it.

As a rule of thumb stay away from the suburbs. A happy medium would be mid-size college towns if you can sustain a decent career. I lived in such a place for a while in my late 20's and have a lot of fond memories. The coeds in the clubs and bars, shit it was like stealing.

Get yourself in a position to be mobile and you don't have to worry about location so much. I split time between two homes right now and lately I've been spending some time in the country as well.

Five_Decades · 2016-04-13T23:39:56+00:00

It depends on the city. San Francisco is a city where women have the power, NYC is a city where men have the power.

I live in a large city and I love it. The city I live in has all the anemities of a large city, but the cost of living is no more than a small town (the fact that my city doesn't border water is a big part of it, there is more sprawl). Health care is much better in a large city. So is entertainment, food options, etc.

I wouldn't want to go back to a small city no matter how it affects my dating life. Women are hypergamous everywhere.

favours_of_the_moon · 2016-04-14T02:57:46+00:00

In the south is where people screw alot more than in the north. So there's THAT.

But generally speaking, I prefer the country. Small towns are VERY cliqueish though. However the main thing in rural areas nowadays is LYME DISEASE.

I'm just fine in the city for the time being.

supergilbert · 2016-04-14T02:58:12+00:00

The Sex and the City girls... I spot them very easily now.

I have a bunch of them on my Facebook, I keep them so I can follow the CC-riding corporate girl lifestyle in real time. Little by little you see their looks fading, they keep posting their cocktails parties pictures, their travels and the stupid motivational quotes (always self centered, never saw a truly philosophical one about a CONCEPT, and not their feelings).

I use it as a test to see if this subreddit is always right or not. If my calculations are good, they should soon find a beta bux.

indlife · 2016-04-14T15:10:39+00:00

I have always lived in a suburb of a Midwestern city with a metro population of 1M plus. In the last seven or so years, my city and many others of similar size, have went on a spending frenzy trying to create areas, usually in downtown cores, that have NYC/Chicago level density. They are still building apartments in our downtown area, and for the newer places it cost $1,000 a month for a studio, maybe a one bedroom. Two bedrooms will still go for $1,800+ a month.

This is all to grab the young professional, who may he single or not. The fact is that living in the city, near the places that are polular with young adults is where one can really find a lot of socializing opportunities. I was more shy growing up, lived at home most my life saving money. I spent one year in a popular bar and club neighborhood. While it was fun in some aspects, my beta habits provided me with zero success when it came to hooking up.

bigcitytruth · 2016-04-14T15:12:56+00:00

The city eats weaklings alive, but for those who can hack it, the rewards are far greater.

HS-Thompson · 2016-04-13T19:57:37+00:00

I live in New York and have a shitload of money and fuck models. It's fucking awesome.

I have read your post three times and have no idea what point you're trying to make, if any.

Keep enjoying your stripmalls and chain restaurants I guess if it makes you happy.

ThickPrick · 2016-04-13T15:26:07+00:00

I'd pick the south side of brooklyn any day.

[deleted] · 2016-04-13T15:58:13+00:00

Honestly, who really gives a fuck if they end up miserable. They're getting their collective just desserts.

Title	Cities : Utopia or Concentration Camp?
Author	NeoreactionSafe
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Date	April 13, 2016 1:16 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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