Summary: Women categorize men into two different groups. They treat their sex partners very differently (and with more respect) than their orbiters. If a woman tries to get you to hang out strictly platonically, she's most likely trying to recruit you as an orbiter, don't fall for it.

Full thread here.

A new superhero has emerged in AskMen. It's... the White Knight! So today, an OP posted to that subreddit asking basically for validation that he wasn't being used as an orbiter, even though he very clearly was. His post is called "what is wrong with my friendship with women?" Yeah, you know where this is going...

I have a few really good female friends who I appreciate a lot and love to spend time with. It's purely platonic and not sexual in the least and I don't want it to be for a number of reasons. I appreciate them as friends and don't want to ruin that dynamic and some of them are also in a relationship and I would hate myself if I'd ruin that.

The following is what sparked this question in me. A little bit about myself for context. I'm a 20 year old college student, straight and have never had a girlfriend or had sex.

Today I went to a musical with a good friend of mine as she and I both enjoy theatre and afterwards met up with one my friends.

She has a boyfriend and he asked me why I came along instead of her boyfriend. She responded with how her bf doesn't like musicals and he made the following point: so basically all the fun stuff (sex etc) you do with your bf while all the lame stuff you do with 50ShadesOfAdnan. Which made me question all my friendships.

Have I never had a girlfriend because they all see me as this sexless loser so they feel non threatened to do stuff with me? His remark made me feel so insecure I can't stop thinking about it.

I've always been down about not being desirable. I always thought that someone would fall for me as I have fallen for girls from time to time. Don't get me wrong I'm not in to the friends I have now.

But every time I liked a girl she never really thought of me as more than a friend. Is it my behaviour? I really hope my situation was clear and my question specific. Usually on reddit these type of situations get labeled with "nice guy, neckbeard, friendzone". I really want to prevent that image. Thanks for reading! Cheers.

Let's analyze this with a Red lens. So little Billy Beta here claims to be perfectly secure in himself even though he's not so much as kissed a girl yet. Which would be admirable except later on he admits that his beta-ness is turning off women and it's really bumming him out. So he's not really happy with his situation of being the back-up provider. He's not happy dragged along to this concert with a girl whom he doesn't have the courage to flirt with and who will go back home to get railed in the ass by her boyfriend anyway.

But desperately wanting to believe in the feminist fairytale of Nice Guys Winning In The End, he runs to askmen and hopes for validation. You can see it in his words. He really wants to know that despite being considered a sexual loser by the world, it's gonna be alright.

Well - we at RedPill know things don't just work out like magic. If you want women to be on your dick, you have to work for it. You have to go to the gym and get big. You have to flirt aggressively and often. You have to play with their minds and work women up into such a frenzy that they eventually beg for you.

Billy Beta here could start by not tagging platonically along to concerts, like a little puppy, with girls that he secretly pines for. Notice how the girl in this story has a dualistic strategy, another RedPill truth. The boyfriend doesn't give a fuck about her interests, he knows that she'll come home to his bed at the end of the day anyway. So she stays with the boyfriend due to her sexual bond, and on the other hand she gets her provider/orbiter needs from OP.

I hope OP finds the redpill or something like it because this man needs to get out of the orbiter zone. This man needs to get laid one day. The way to do that is to swallow the inconvenient truth, that appeasing and placating girls is not the way to their heart. The way to their heart is to treat them like the inferiors they are, to demonstrate that your time is valuable and that you are superior to them.

OH, I almost forgot. Bonus post... later on in the thread OP talks about a friend who tried to warn him what's going on:

[I have a friend who told me that I'm being used as an orbiter.] He's a great friend generally, but since we started college he gets laid on the daily by different girls so he's probably only thinking with his penis. Honestly no one of our group of friends knows how he does it. He's kinda awkward and isn't groomed whatsoever. But hey ballers gotta ball.

LOL! So some guy tried helping OP out only to be rebuffed. Damn son. You've really got your fingers in both your ears while screaming "la la la".

TL;DR: Girls have a dualistic social strategy. They submit to the men (the Chads of the world) they want sexually while using orbiters (the Billys of the world) as neutered playmates. Be the Chad, not the Billy.