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[–]1OneRedYear91 points92 points93 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
As you get older you learn this. Rwice I've been at rock bottom and nobody gave a shit. I had a choice, pull the trigger or not give a fuck and fuck everyone else.
[–]bokehnikon79 points80 points81 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
not give a fuck and fuck everyone else.
That is the beginning of wisdom for so many guys.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, its sink or swim out there, no one except maybe your parents truly cares about you regardless of what they say.
[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm rather certain my parents never gave a fuck. I know my siblings don't, neither do my kids. Nobody cares until they need something from me. Nobody gives a fuck until I am the only one who can help them out.
That's the way things are, and I'm good with that. I don't expect anything from anyone unless I paid them for it.
[–]rossiFan0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see you've never met my parents. I essentially raised myself. My very first mentor was Drill Sergeant Ball at Ft. Knox, KY. I was 18 and boy did my head pop out of my ass with the sound of a cannon at that point.
[–]White_Phillip4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you learn that life will go on whether you live or die, and none of those people who you bent over backwards for valued you enough to lend a hand, that's when you really start to learn.
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[–]L4Roomie33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Refer to "not giving a fuck" for your answer
[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill41 points42 points43 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
One thing to bear in mind is that you can reframe this not as something to be frustrated about, but to be embraced.
The gauntlet for men has been thrown.
Embrace the fact that life is going to be more challenging.
You get obstacles in life that you must overcome. Every challenge is an opportunity to improve.
If you want to be at the top, you're going to have to compete.
I, for one, enjoy the struggle because it forges strength. I wouldn't want to be victimized.
Every day you wake up and you have a choice: Do you want to live your day trying to get closer to the womb, closer to comfort, or do you want to live your day trying to get further from the womb, towards the harsh challenge of reality?
[–]redearththeory6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I, for one, enjoy the struggle because it forges strength.
I recognise that the pressure generated by the destructive entropy that pulls all of us towards failure and death is the driving creative force which has lead to humans becoming what we are and created everything awesome in our world. There is something sacred about that dynamic and as a man I don't shy away from that conflict as its probably the closest thing to a creator I'll ever know. But I can't say I enjoy the struggle.
[–]1GroundhogLiberator6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
But I can't say I enjoy the struggle
Same here. I have no problem working hard and making sacrifices to achieve goals. We should all strive for a life of self-improvement. But the knowledge that nobody gives a shit about us still saddens me more than anything else.
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[–]1GroundhogLiberator2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's bad, man. People are capable of bettering themselves due to motivators other than fear of abandonment. The way i see things, "it's a challenge" isn't enough of a benefit to outweigh the fact that we live in a world where most men are considered worthless.
Maybe I just have too much empathy, or a better memory of how lonely I felt when I was someone who had nothing to offer in most people's eyes.
[–]redearththeory0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But the knowledge that nobody gives a shit about us still saddens me more than anything else.
I'm the opposite. I don't care that no one cares. But the constant conflict (asshole boss, shit testing wife, scheming clients) is annoying, even if I recognize that it is the fundamental dynamic that creates those relationships.
[–]SetConsumes1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I, for one, enjoy the struggle because it forges strength. I recognise that the pressure generated by the destructive entropy that pulls all of us towards failure and death is the driving creative force which has lead to humans becoming what we are and created everything awesome in our world. There is something sacred about that dynamic and as a man I don't shy away from that conflict as its probably the closest thing to a creator I'll ever know. But I can't say I enjoy the struggle.
Learn to enjoy your struggle like Sisyphus enjoys his life of rolling the boulder up the hill only to watch it roll back down and proceed once more.
If there was no struggle than becoming great and achieving would lose its meaning.
[–]Benny7573 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excellent thoughts right here. We choose that we are nobody, or we can choose that we are somebody. Embrace the challenge. The womb is beta and not reality. Away from womb is freedom.
[–]NeoreactionSafe25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
There is only one time when people care about you:
Childhood
Men love women, women love children, children love puppies
So all desire to be cared for is (hebrew 555) the desire to be an Androgynous beta male slave. (a child)
If you want to live like that the Blue Pill helps you stay happy as best it can with it's mythologies and multiple layers of self deceptions.
If you want to be a child just never take the Red Pill.
[–]tedcase5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What if I just want to be immature?
[–]NeoreactionSafe1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then the Blue Pill will give you "triggers".
[–]DigitalTherapy1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I lift and approach but have a lightsaber and love spongebob. You can do both.
[–]Endorsed ContributorHeathcliff--0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
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What is this?
[–]SetConsumes-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Then enjoy being a child, woman.
[–]tedcase6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Insulting strangers on the internet?
You got some growing up to do, buddy.
[–]SetConsumes-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Insulting strangers on the internet? You got some growing up to do, buddy.
...
What is the difference between a boy and a man? One is immature and one is not.
What is the difference between women and men? One is immature and one is not.
Its not an insult, you are confused as to what a man is.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
the desire to be an Androgynous beta male slave.
Children are supported, they are not enslaved. Very little is expected of them. (Same with women of course).
[–]NeoreactionSafe0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Children are the model of slavery.
The African slave was once called "boy".
You should know this...
[–]Ulick_Varange0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure about
Ludovici is usually quite spot on when it comes to female psychology, and he disagrees profoundly:
woman’s major orientation is not and cannot be, as the sentimentalists of the nineteenth century supposed, to the child or children she bears, but to the male, to man. It is almost always forgotten, even by scientists aware of the facts, that in the evolution of the human race the relationship of the sexes to each other is immensely older than their relationship to their offspring—a fact to which I first called attention and supported with scientific evidence in 1927.[17] That this fact is really self-evident can be shown by simply comparing the duration of the Mammalia with that of the creatures that preceded them, among which the parental nexus was largely absent.
Source: http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/03/on-wuthering-heights/
[–]SetConsumes2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are not incorrect, evidence in seeing how many women abandon their children and don't give a fuck about other children that need help in their society.
However the hierarchy of love is still true. The caveat is that the woman will only love the child if it is necessary to keep the man she wants.
Ive seen this unfold too, single dad gets an SO and she madly loves the child and cares for it in exchange for being a stay at home mom and him providing for her fully. She loves the child as long as she needs the man and he's fucking her. If they breakup I expect her love for the child to quickly end.
[–]MelodyMyst0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It does. Quickly. Women are ver mercenary like this.
[–]mrrooftops0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which highlights the point that modern socialism and feminism has destroyed women's orientation towards men if ever there was one.
[–]naxmiles110 points111 points112 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Good points on public views of men and women. If a woman is unemployed and has children, she is "struggling with life and fighting to prove herself, she should be supported". If a man is in same position, he is "a complete loser, cannot fix his life and must always avoided".
That is why you must improve all the time and only for yourself.
[–]J_AsapGem8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I know feminism has fucked shit up, but it's suppose to be that way, i mean we're suppose to be the hunters going into the wild to get food and build a civilization, don't get me wrong society treats men messed up, but this is just my opinion, i would even go as far to say it's how nature suppose to be.
[–]FlintShaman5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Feminism (from my view point) serves us in the long run. It takes all the beta males and undesirable females and puts a giant logo on them for all to see.
[–]yummyluckycharms3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Feminism is actually a destructive force - it tears people apart and pits them against each other. That in of itself isnt inherently bad (competition does the same thing), but in a democracy, what you have is a majority of the population using its numbers to keep the other half down. Moreover, because there are more women than men, there will never be a time in which the system will serve male interests.
In essence, the west now has a system that transfers the creative energy and wealth of men to support the perks that are enjoyed by non wealth producing matriarchy. This creates a stagnant system that overtime becomes increasingly unstable as the numbers of wealth producing men dwindle (either due to MGTOW, emigration, or demographics). Feminism isnt a shit test, because women dont want men to pass it - they just want the wealth transfer to continue flowing.
[–]FlintShaman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh I'm not saying it isn't bad because it is (and for all the reasons you've stated plus some). My point was that it can serve us. Just like with most other Red Pill ideology we need to take the weapons they use on us and turn them around. They invented it to enslave men but what they didn't create was a counter to stop it from coming back on them.
[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I hear what you are saying. On the one hand being alpha signifies that you are good for a good fuck and not a pansy, but career wise, it can suck because usually matriarchies have high taxes. Every dollar of tax that you pay, is one less for retirement.
Unfortunately, most guys in the west dont use tax shelters, so they are really getting screwed
[–]FlintShaman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's funny. The US originally came to be because of overtaxation in the first place yet here we are today. We didn't even have taxes until the 1930s to help fund the war effort but that was only supposed to be temporary.
[–]SetConsumes0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see it this way too. Feminism is a collective shit test, if the men in our society pass it will make us stronger overall, if we fail, we will be assimilated by a stronger society.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i mean we're suppose to be the hunters going into the wild to get food and build a civilization,
Sure, and then we get to fucking OWN what we made.
Now we still have to fight for everything, and then some woman can take it all away from us with a false rape allegation, a false police report, marriage certificate, child support, alimony.
We still have to fight, and we get to own nothing. And that's before all the preferential treatment women get and "we should have equal numbers of women doing whatever they want to do regardless of merit" working against us.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hell, low-status men are pretty much shitted on regardless. Knew a man suffering from depression and narcolepsy. Had a neckbeard, was unkempt but no B.O. issues. Not only did women not even think of getting romantically involved with him, but the women ostracized and excluded him. He literally could not get the time of day from most women. To add insult to injury, they called him creepy and suggested that he was a pedophile.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Neither women nor society care about male weakness
Nobody cares about strong and successful men either. If you're weak they ignore you, if you are strong they try to exploit you. Noone gives a fuck about you. Disagree? Try asking for something back from someone sometime and see what happens, especially women but guys aren't much better (exception for really good male friends).
I don't have a job -> get one you lazy fuck, quit complaining.
I have a job but it's stressful -> at least you have a job, quit complaining, get a better job.
I have a great job, but I'd like more free time -> quit complaining, you're lucky to have a great job.
People either condemn you for your failures or discount your success and try to exploit you ... "you can afford to help me because you're successful and I'm not and it's all easy for you". As if we were living in some communist utopia - and I know we're not because noone helped me get where I am today.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look at the numerous professional athletes who are bombarded by people from their past as soon as they make it big. Shaq is an example iifc.
[–]L4Roomie10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People, what a bunch of bastards
[–]JackGetsIt1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know you're referencing IT crowd but I'm also reminded of Scrubs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTbgvYPVdXE
[–]writewhereileftoff2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This goes hand in hand with the fact that every relationship is a transaction between two or more parties. Relationships are good as long as there is mutual benefit. Same thing for groups, on a larger scale.
[–]dum_dum_boy2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If they're trying to exploit you, they do care. They're falling into your frame, trying to leech off your power.
If you're weak, you're invisible...a non-entity.
[–]pdpbigbang1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
because noone helped me get where I am today
Think real hard about that one. Especially on the subreddit where people share free information about the truth of the reality at absolutely no cost to you. I am a person, you are a person, each and every comment and post here were written by a live, breathing, feeling person who wish to help each other out in some way.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I stand corrected, this place has done an awful lot to help me.
The rest of the fucking world... .just tried to use me for their own benefit and at my expense.
[–]EvolvingPerception0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh man there was this guy who was kind of cool and witty. He could also play his surroundings and still keep his charm. One time i told him something in private about a funny night.
From that moment on he hid his funny side and starting smearing honey around my mouth.
I can't have guys around me who are afraid to either bust my balls or just let their thoughts flow and spit some truth.
My parents didn't care for me so i had underweight and impaired skills with connecting with people. Now I am average weight and can talk a little(still struggling tho). I still struggle to comprehend the difference in treatment i get from people
[–]Heathcliff-- 43 points43 points43 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Women have inherent value because they have wombs. They can procreate and pass on their genes very simply, they find any male they deem suitable and get his sperm somehow, then either raise the child with him or have the daddy state help take care of it.
Men do not have that inherent value. As a male you have to EARN your right to reproduce. That's just how it is. If you want to procreate as a male you must develop yourself into a person that females deem worthy of reproducing. You need to give your genes value through your actions, they are not inherently valuable like a woman's genes are.
You are disposable as a male. You have to earn the right to pass on your genes, women do not.
Short of raping every woman I see like a caveman, my only other option if I want to procreate is to become a man that is worthy enough of selection, and that means being sucessfull. If I'm not, no one cares, no one gives a shit about my struggle, there are higher quality men with better sperm ready to take my place and overwrite my genes in history. 80% of historic men did not pass on their genes.
Life is a fucking competition between males for access to wombs. We are living a 70 year long mating dance.
[–]Expectations17 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
But lately women are becoming more like men.
Why?
Life expectancy has increased substantially, and the default state for most people in society is actually pretty garbage.
An average job back in the day mightve been a coal worker getting black lung, nowadays your office job is no place for men to be men.
[–]A_Cheeky_Fuck10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
An office job is a phenomenal place for men to be men. Hierarchy, competition, success, drive, intelligence, etc.
If you take two men with identical accolades, one works in construction, and one is a CEO... The CEO is far more alpha. No questions asked.
[–]tuzki6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You've never worked in an office filled with women and middle managers
[–]akrebsie8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I've known both (not so many CEOs) and my experience says otherwise.
Construction like the army an enviroment that harbours a masculine culture, the office, in my experience not so much.
I do get what you are saying but plenty of offices and companies are run by wimps, they can't just be wimps obviously.
They might be -Lucky -Devious/treachereous -Socially manipulative(relying on social imperative or expectation.) -Hardworking One can get through life and even succeed as a wimp. It'll be nasty sure but it can happens all the time
[–]gum111 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
a work environment such as the office requires finesse, adaptability and subtlety to get ahead. it's a competitive environment in which you have to learn quick and make solid choices throughout. It's a much more difficult environment than construction because in construction or physical jobs what matters most is hard work, persistence and physical prowess.
[–]akrebsie0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm guessing you have not worked in construction
[–]gum111 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I did, for a day when I was like 18. it sucked.
[–]akrebsie0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha ha, it shows in your comment.
It depends on the job but physicality is a small part of it, it is definitely a part but it is not dominant. I am 185cm and 65kg and I couldn't beat any of the guys at arm wrestling last time we had a work party, still I keep up with the rest no worries.
Managing construction workers I would venture would generally require a more "alpha" character than managing office workers.
[–]BeyondDedication0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Alpha and masculine are not equivalent. Correlated, but not equivalent.
Intelligence, savy, not giving a fuck. The CEO will have an edge.
[–]peruvianlurker0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Except when the CEO is a black femnist woman and another C level and top managers are also woman...
Every day I feel woman are taking over corporate so fast, and they are better than most men, more efficient at their job and more 'responsible' at least in the 20-29 year range.
I don't know what to do, it kills the office climate and tbh where I live most companies here that are decent are full of woman in top management positions.
[–]Smurfboy82-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Go to a gym and you'll see plenty of CEO's submitting to blue collar alphas.
At the gym, no one cares about your wealth if you look like a skinny balding frail old man who never took care of himself.
[–]A_Cheeky_Fuck10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Most construction guys in their 40s and older are fat, disgusting, bald mongrels with even worse health conditions... In my experience. Go drive by one construction site and its apparent.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. That has a lot to do with American eating habits and the perception that burning a lot of calories and working hard is an excuse to eat a Thanksgiving meal every time for dinner
[–]rebelde_sin_causa1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you're over 40, your financial standing matters far, far, far more than your looks. Which is usually another strike against the blue collar guy.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Blue collar alphas lmao. My whole family is blue collar, and the women they've married are all fucking repulsive. Thank god I look like my moms deadbeat alcoholic father who somehow found 3 wives, because if I didn't odds are I'd be 5'8 and ugly too.
[–]coffee_and_lumber 2 points2 points2 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
All the blue collar people I know in and around the family have terrible awareness of society and how they fit in it, are not educated, believe dogshit things about politics, are conspiracy theorists, raise their kids terribly and are absolutely not leaders. Plus bad diet and bad health. That generally applies to many of the blue collar workers I encounter in the world. Lots of angry guys, and lots of guys who can barely maintain eye contact when they speak to you. It totally goes against this "noble working man" trope that we're supposed to buy.
The main exceptions to this are the guys who are at the high levels, the master carpenters, fine woodworkers, blacksmiths and the like, many of whom I argue fall in a class beyond the more urbanized white collar professionals. All those guys I know are renaissance men, wildly interesting, and often the most free people I know, who could have been scientists or engineers but found satisfaction in craft. But of course, because that's passion and dedication, along with savvy and intellect, rather than "I started painting houses after high school, had no other ambitions and wasn't good enough to do anything else".
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's something to be said about choosing a trade an excelling. I'd say for me the hierarchy is upper white collar (doctors, lawyers, CEOs ect)> upper blue collar (blacksmiths, master carpenters ect) > mid white collar (stock traders, office workers ect) > middle class (teachers ect) > lower blue collars (construction, taxi drivers).
I agree, but those masters are not even 10% of blue collar workers.
[–]FlintShaman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
5'8 and ugly isn't a death sentence but it sure as hell is a disadvantage. Being a blue collar alpha on top of that is basically just taking out the other leg. You can succeed but you don't have to two best pillars to stand on (looks and good money).
Yeah, some of my family is God awfully ugly. And poor. And it shows up with the quality of women they get. I've seen them and their blue collar friends and their wives and it isn't pretty. Unless you're unbelievably attractive and charismatic you won't get any sort of hot babe working construction.
[–]BeyondDedication0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And that's just a gym. It literally doesn't matter an ounce to anyone outside of it.
[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Care to guess how many girls want to be fucked by the man with rough working hands vs the soft hands ceo? Yeah they will date and fuck the ceo, he had hasmoney, but that construction worker is the guy she is fucking on the side, along with a bunch of other hot young girls riding his cock.
Your own confirmation bias is clouding your judgement.
[–]A_Cheeky_Fuck1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your bias is clouding your judgement as well and is actually completely wrong given my scenario. Assuming all things are equal with build, height, looks, etc, a CEO has a higher SMV and therefore more alpha than a construction worker. Trust me, I know girls like rough hands, I get compliments all the time on my calloused hands, but it is definitely not going to get you more girls than being a CEO.
[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The point you're missing is one she fucks, the other supports her to fuck her.
Why? Because of thought control. Most women don't know why they feel the way they do, and those feelings are predominantly created by society and their upbringing.
[–]TallDarkAndHarrison 4 points4 points4 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm new to trp and am wondering if the subject of surrogate birth has ever been brought up as a main topic? If a man really wanted children, couldn't he just have a surrogate with a solid legal contract so the woman couldn't come back a few years later to claim bank? Wouldn't surrogate born children completely throw a wrench in the system?
[–]bokehnikon5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/aug/23/interpol-japanese-baby-factory-man-fathered-16-children
This man took surrogacy to its logical conclusion.
That is badass. Why the fuck not do that if you want your blood to survive?
And, there is some part of a mind that is passed to your offspring too.
It has been brought up, just search for surrogate or children.
[–]krsuma0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Ive always compared this with nature. It has been like this and always will be. If you take a close look at the nature, males have always competed with others for dominance and the right to procreate / lead. Survival of the fittest. We human being are not really different from other animals. Ive come to accept that im just a surplus man out here in the world - that gave me ease of mind that im 'nothing', yet gives me the drive to improve myself everyday, for myself and only. Only if one accepts that male values are driven and female values and given, it makes all sense and that taking risk is something natural.
Edit: only if you care about your self improvement is when you can start helping others, regardless if you can get something off from that (benefit) or for the sake of kindness.
Alpha fux, beta bux, omega yux. Modern society is making more and more omega yux that would be killed off, institutionalized, or become betas in earlier times.
[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's one of the most freeing things about RP.
No one cares, therefore, I owe no one anything. I live for me, by the rules I decide, and only allow that which benefits me to enter my frame.
This is the epitome of the rule of power. Disdain that which you cannot have. Definitely not the 'sour grapes' people assume it to mean
Absolutely
Very existentialist, no inherent meaning or purpose, you are free to create your own.
I find the key is to disdain those things in a logical and realistic way.
[–]Forcetobereckonedwit33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Females have only one job. It is to become pregnant by the best male she can manage. She can be stupid, interesting, lazy, parasitic,evil, it doesn't matter. Helpful, generous, hateful, duplicitous, doesn't matter. The babies come from inside her, hence the pussy pass. Sad it may be, but truth it is, all the same.
[–]PM_Me_OK0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay well how about us men on the redpill change that.
[–]Forcetobereckonedwit0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure it's possible, but we can give it a go
[–]brown_monkey_-4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Aren't those the kinds of gender roles feminism is fighting against? You think women want to be relegated to being mindless baby machines? Gender inequality hurts everyone.
[–]tuzki9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, feminism wants its cake and to eat it too ( pussy pass + protection + privilege without accountability)
[–]mavericksteve2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He's probably saying they want that on a subconscious level.
[–]brown_monkey_0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can he back that up? The human mind is a complex thing so amateur psychoanalysis of an entire group of people doesn't carry much weight.
[–]Kleeke7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember how freaked out as was as a kid (like 4 years old) hearing on the news "Women and Children were evacuated"....
Even back then I was smart enough to understand the implied meaning of that term. I didn't want to grow up and become the group that it was OK to die.
[–]99_Problem13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A beautiful woman with nothing, is still a beautiful woman.
A man with nothing, is nothing.
[–]EvolvingPerception1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am currently reading the panchatantra and it reads some version of the following in it
A mouse with money is above all but a mouse without money is like all the other mice.
Also there are a lot of other things written in there that cover a lot of male politics and also warn young princes(for whom the book was intended to) of the dangers of getting advice from flatters, retards or women. It's a good read but consider that it is a collection of interwoven fables, so take your time.( I am still on it )
[–]Red__Alt 4 points4 points4 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
The difference between you and low-tier men is this: you stop and ask yourself, "What am I going to do about it?" NMMNG talks about this. While it's important to be aware of what society has become for men, it's also important to realize that you have the power to do something about it. You have the power to decide not to be a victim, say fuck you to those who stand in your way, and do whatever the fuck you want. That's the difference between us, low-tier men, and radical left-wing feminists who sit around blaming society for the fact that they are lazy and emotionally unstable.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
An unattractive woman can't do shit about it. A man is unattractive if he's not masculine, any man can be reasonably attractive to get laid, every able-bodied man. A woman simply can not, if you're an uggo the best you're going to get is a beta bitch who is practically more feminine than you are.
I can almost understand the frustration. Those women act all empowered and shit but they would jump at the opportunity to give up their right to vote for attractive men to find them attractive.
Attractive feminists are not the norm, they are usually there to have power over other women. Emma Watson is a known celebrity feminist, she doesn't beleive a word she says and dates the biggest Chad Thundercock football player, she's just doing it for power and to stay relevant.
Emma Watson is interesting in that she does what masculine feminist women should do, find a man that can still dominate them. Football players are aggressive and masculine and strong. She's an ESTJ which is as masculine as it gets and it shows in her being so uncomfortable with acting like a woman overtly, but intuitively she knows quite well what she is underneath.
[–]JourneymanTRP5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's what makes us strong and capable of doing what we do. The safety net is also the reason that women act like children for so long.
Maturity happens when people stop putting up with your shit.
[–]tedcase3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"you sink, and you end up drowning yourself in failure and self-pity. If you swim and only if you swim, people will start taking notice."
Kinda like your conception.
[–]covertpenguin33909 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would argue that women have a version of this too, but it's all on looks. Fat ugly women have it the hardest in my opinion as far as how society treats and ignores them. Though I would also argue their problem is the easiest to fix, just workout and eat right and get back to being pretty so life is easy again. But back to your overall point, yeah, don't be low tier and don't bitch to girls about your real problems. I'll tell my girlfriend all day about how little shit is stupid and annoys me in a joking rant way but I refuse to ever open up when I have real issues going on, or at least down play them if they're in the open. She openly admits she wants me to be more successful than her and make more money and be the man even though she herself has an MBA and wants to work and make money.
[–]Benny75710 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As men, each of us has a responsibility to take care of ourselves. The lowest rung on Maslow's Hierarchy remains with each of us, no matter who cares, or cares not.
This is life. This is reality. All of your beliefs set aside, life is a game between god and the devil and you, and you can't not play. Said another way, it's between nature, the universe and you, and you can play well, or poorly.
First rule of the game, take care of self. Live properly, live well, do the right things, make the right choices. Be responsible to yourselves.
Second rule of the game. Pursue improvement and life-long education to define your own happiness.
Third rule. Having a relationship with a woman almost never defines happiness or fulfillment for a man. Think back to all of your relationships. Outside of the occasional orgasm, most of your experiences with women and their shit caused you angst, right? The pursuit of them, the being with them, and the keeping of them. Angst.
Fourth rule: See rule number three. Men can define happiness and worth without a relationship with a woman. Women are parasitic.
Fifth rule: Care about yourself - and empower yourselves to care about others, particularly men, your friends. Can we not be "bands of brothers?"
Sixth rule: MGTOW
[–]redearththeory2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Humans are herd animals. At a basic, intuitive level humans think what a man "should" get is determined by his dominance. A man can be big, strong, productive and attractive, but if he's a beta pussy who whines, victim pukes and seeks approval, people will shit on him just as hard as if he were 5 foot tall, 50kg goblin. I think there is a nuance missing here when we talk about "caring"
If you are weak, depressed, small, poor, uneducated, unconfident, or anything else that prevents you from being powerful, nobody will care about whether you live or die.
I think the more accurate point is that no one will think you deserve to have anything in life.
[–]RedPillFreedom2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Short but solid post.
Fucking herniated 2 discs a while ago.
Family members outside of household expect me to meet up. Oh, he's doing nothing with his life. Yeah, had potential. He was a smart kid growing up and wasted it.
It's honestly fucking amazing. I have blocked friends that did this shit because after a year of TRP trying to help them. This was the treatment I got.
Do not think because you have been friends for 12 years that will stop them from betraying you.
Do not think because they are blood that will stop them from betraying, berating, and using you for their gain.
I am absolutely grateful for all the pain Everything. I was lost for years. Always felt like there has to be more. All this crazy shit everywhere. You can dissect any topic. But, women and sex was uhhh, be yourself, court her, when she shits on you eat it too. Fuck that. Everytime I did any of that it just dug my grave further.
Whole life was great but life happens. You either stay there in that ditch or you learn from it and avoid the next one. Hey, you might fall in another ditch but that's life.
When I'm riding a motorcycle and someone decides to rear end me. There's nothing I can do besides be prepared and constantly checking my rear view. I'm ready to pull on to a sidewalk if need be. Tired of reading shit like woman hit motorcyclist and not charged for Blatant Murder. Fucking dude I rode with died like that. After reading all the shit on TRP. Especially solipsism. It really made me go wow. Just some 1984 Brave New World shit which controls the narrative and everything must be BP and PC.
The shit you are given in life. Be grateful for it. Because if you learn. Become like water. Adapt. You have the potential to be great.
Being RP is hard but the fulfillment is amazing.
Edit: LoL bro, got a family member. His wife didn't even take the last name. Prime example of beta bux. Kids fat and lazy. Congratulations, on talking shit spreading gossip behind my back. BP behavior should be expected from anyone that's practically not aligned with RP.
Big mental shift is I don't respect people that aren't RP anymore. If you're killing it in your field. Then, yes you deserve it. But, exhibit too many behaviors like this "family member" then you're as good as roadkill on the side of the road.
[–]YuriJackoffski1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So men can't get welfare? Serious question.
[–]Kleeke0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Technically no, its assistance for needy "families," so basically women (single mothers) and children.
You wont starve though, they are soup kitchens and stuff around.
[–]mack_and_the_boys0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Innit. Was enjoying the post up until that line...a totally irrelevant point.
Its true. Once you're at the top though you won't have any mercy for anyone else who's not at the top or didn't lend a hand from the top to help you out.
[–]gjs6280 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Which do you care about more - having a new oven fitted, or the guy who comes around to fit it? Which upsets you more - having a large dent in said oven, or if the electrician installing it hurts his fingers doing so? I realise it's abstract, but the point is that people have different personal investments, and being able to give the family a lifetime of tasty meals is more important than someone who will go off after 5 minutes and install ovens elsewhere.
Men are replaceable; women have higher inherent value because they're known to have a greater role. And because we all want to fuck women, we keep them alive. In the same way you keep your oven safe if you want to keep eating.
[–]Kleeke4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is retarded. Men are the creative element of the human race, if everyone was female we would still be living in caves. What you are talking about is average chumps.
Average beta men are worthless, but a man of skill and creative genius is theoretically worth more than hundreds of thousands of women.
[–]gjs6280 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I was making a generalisation. By and large, women will always be supported above and beyond even powerful men, not by everybody but by enough people for it to matter. Bill Cosby was pretty important and look how much support those attention grabbing whores mustered by accusing him YEARS after the fact with 0 evidence to present. Now Trump is facing the same thing and I guarantee there will be an outpouring of support for this "poor, defenseless woman" in the face of absolutely no evidence to support her claims.
[–]SetConsumes0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do not get confused by our current times. Things have not always been like this and will not always be like this. Look at star wars, yeah it's a movie, but do you see women giving the Sith shit?
Democracy is an inverted form of dictatorship. The real fight is men vs their rulers, the women are noise and serve the rulers purpose currently, when they do not they will be used again how they need to be. Feminism is divide and conquer(surprise).
[–]gjs6280 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's actually a pretty interesting observation; what, in your view, is the Ruler's purpose, and what needs to happen (what goal needs to be achieved by them) so that women's positions in society will change back again?
Do you subscribe to the Globalist tyranny idea that, once the world is united under one government, women will be used as "breeding slaves" essentially with very few rights, in a society where they're expected to be seen and not heard? Or do you have a different view? (It's really hard to portray genuine interest over the Internet as opposed to sarcasm, so this is me saying I'm genuinely interested in what you're saying, no sarcasm or veiled disrespect intended whatsoever, I find this fascinating because it goes a long way in explaining the way the world is today)
Their purpose is to keep power and control. This never changes really.
Men would have to calm women down, as feminism is primarily coming from a position of fear and insecurity, and get men and women to work together again. Rulers will then need to figure out some other way to keep men from opposing them.
I've debated if there will ever be a one world government and well, I doubt it. The situation we have is more or less organic, it's not a bunch of rulers completely conspiring together, they're all self interested first and want more power for themselves.
It would also be less than optimal, different societies produce different archetypes of people that think differently, and competition is good, let's humanity test out what societal structure is better and makes us more adaptable. World peace is a sure way to weakness, complacency, and extinction.
But the rulers understand the game that's being played, like how the USA and Russia are eternal enemies(in appearance), but really friends as we compete and make each other stronger, and know better than to directly war each other.
I do think Europe will become one country, probably Germany. Consider German excellence mentality and that 40% of Americans are German by blood and we too value excellence(American Exceptionalism). But who knows, maybe another Napoleon will appear and change war tactics yet again and end up dominating and Europe will be France.
Funny that I'm going to use star wars again, but in it the Republic essentially has a one world democracy of sorts and it's still inverted dictatorship, and then Palpatine takes over and makes it an overt dictatorship.
That does parallel our political scene and common historical themes of presidents going dictator.
If, we had a society that focused on maximizing men, what would we really need women for?
There is nothing women do that men cant do better if they train for it, not one thing. Women start off being able to handle more simple tasks at once but a developed leader does this quite well. Men can be more ruthless and Machiavellian than women too.
So why would you waste resources empowering women?
The only reason is because it makes them and people in general feel good, it especially makes the slaves feel good(and so you see it is the slave men that allowed this all). Logically it's pointless, the resources are far more efficiently utilized focused on men.
I mean, even the greatest artists are men, men dominate the intellectual and emotional aspect of being human through and through.
Which do you care about more - having a new oven fitted, or the guy who comes around to fit it? Which upsets you more - having a large dent in said oven, or if the electrician installing it hurts his fingers doing so? I realise it's abstract, but the point is that people have different personal investments, and being able to give the family a lifetime of tasty meals is more important than someone who will go off after 5 minutes and install ovens elsewhere. Men are replaceable; women have higher inherent value because they're known to have a greater role. And because we all want to fuck women, we keep them alive. In the same way you keep your oven safe if you want to keep eating.
Some men are replaceable, high value men tend to be unique and rare, if they are replaceable it's difficult and often they cannot be directly replaced.
Women are replaceable, find another beautiful woman to make a baby, done.
Women are born with their value so it is inherent in that way.
Men are born with potential and must create their value.
Well, one guy does, but he's lazy and doesn't do shit to help you.
[–]Drenmar0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My mum cares. She still judges me if I show weakness, though.
Perhaps the only person that will ever care about you in some unconditional way.
[–]aussydog0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
http://johnnybtruant.com/the-universe-doesnt-give-a-flying-fuck-about-you/
[–]RedditAdminsSuck_880 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I deleted my social media. No one cares. Even if I would get dozens of likes on my shit. No one cares.
[–]ManowaR14880 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men sink or swim while the women float by in lifejackets.
[–]casemodsalt0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much why I don't go out of my way to help women, ever.
[–]ReverendMush0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's bad when somebody needs help or protection and they can't get it because of social stereotypes. It's also bad when somebody doesn't need help and has their power of decision taken away by an institution that views them as inherently needing direction and does not have their best interest at heart. Such is the case for 'men' and 'women' in modern black/white American culture.
The problem is that we expect women to be feminine all the time and men to be masculine all the time, and that is just bad science. Trying to order your world around that misinformation will no doubt lead to frustration and failure. We need to enforce feminine and masculine behavior according to social context, not physical constitution. For example there are some areas where it is only appropriate to be masculine (in a sports arena) and some where it is only appropriate to be feminine (a funeral). To assert that a person must convey only one set of binary expressions for all life situations because of the shape of their genitals is just stupid. It is this basic materialistic misunderstanding that is harmful to people of all genders. Saying you have to be the biggest man to beat this system is actually reinforcing it. What you have to do is cultivate and demonstrate respect and protection for feminine male expressions, defending not only the existence of femininity in men, but the value of it. Masculinity and femininity, men and women cannot exist without each other. Without them we would just be 'people'.
This resonates with me alt. Im 31 now and Ive had some pretty drastic life changes over the past two years. I was a fat 265 pound state worker for 7 yrs. I decided to quit one random day and shake up my life. At that time from June to to October i sold or dropped all my shit, got down to 220 lbs ish, moved to china from california, went to italy, spain, GB, Romania, and got down to q98 lbs, lived in lindon for a few months.
As much as i advanced, i eventually came home, after a month of seeing everyone and seeing my changes. Everything settled down and no one gives a shit. I got a job im better looking but on the grand scale of things
Im still 198. I got more weight to lise and need to be in better shape, my eating habits are still a bit poor, i still smoke and drink sodas and have alot to correct.
Nobody cares about my accomplishments and ive done things that is in the upper tier of cool shit 90% of them will just dream of doing and never do.
This has shed a bit of light on the fact that looks carry alot of weight. All the stuff ive done is nice but its not gonna hold a candle to fuckboy number 1-500 thats there that night in peak physical condition.
Another thing i noticed is the women here are much fatter than i had remembered and its dis heartening to see 5 dudes pandering for whats arguably a 4 on ther best day.
So yeah, nobody gives a fuck really.
[–]pursuitofman0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Due to my inability to accept this truth, one of the personality traits I developed during my bluepill days was to try manipulate everyone into giving a shit about my problems. In retrospect it is a pathetic state of being to want sympathy from others and the hinderance that attitude has on your development into a man. Embracing this truth helps me appreciate the beauty of creation and the laws that govern it.
[–]Vasallo7G0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A women does not need a pussy, she already has one.
[–]pinkployd0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did save this post to read later but there is no post anymore. I am a little upset :(
[–]Rommel0502-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This boards very philosophy is based upon evolutionary drives persisting and trumping everything else. In the evolutionary framework, Mother Nature doesn't give a shit about you unless you are superior and can exert your superiority.
Despite decades if not centuries of trying, this is why human attempts at social engineering and market manipulation are always doomed to failure in the long term. You cannot think your way around the market that thousands of years of evolution has forged. In the end, the market wins. Always.
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