It seems pretty obvious to many of us that the conservative vs. liberal ideologies basically boil down to male values vs. female values.

Today's liberals are collectivist, open-border, big government globalists, while today's conservatives are individualist, strong-border, small government nationalists. If I asked you to assign male/female value labels to these two ideologies how would you apply these labels?

In a very real sense liberals today promote feminine value judgements and conservatives promote masculine value judgements.

For what I hope are reasons obvious to all of you, this puts MGTOW ideas firmly in the conservative camp.

The central issue in my mind comes down to the role of government in our societies. All the fancy trimmings aside, there is one central observation which drives both of these points of view... whatever we incentivise we get more of.

Do you want less poverty?

Stop incentivising it. The further down the rabbithole we go towards socialism, the more we create incentives which encourage poverty.

Want fewer single mothers?

Stop incentivising it.

The more we reward single motherhood, the more of it we get.

Want a more stable and safer world?

We will not get that by encouraging weakness, but rather through encouraging strength.

By shielding people from the consequences of their actions/inactions we mask this reality from them and remove the incentives which participated change for these individuals. Mankind is a party animal... as long as his needs are met, he's good to go. Stamping your little feet and complaining about how unfair things are accomplishes nothing unless you are sponsored by others with actual power. None of these female values can be enforced by women... they exist only because men have been deluded into providing it for them. If men just collectively said no... this shit would end instantly.

I really enjoyed TFM's "Cycle" videos which cover this topic in great detail and I could not agree more.

Our current political climate is represented by the old adage, "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater."

Should we have tried to improve and protect the lives of the weak?

Of course we should have.

However, we have abandoned the social and more importantly biological mechanisms which got us here in the first place. Unchecked male aggression is dangerous and should have limits... but this common sense approach has spiraled out of control and now means abandoning all aggression. How the fuck do people think we got here to begin with?

Unchecked female hypergamy is also dangerous and should also be limited. Instead we have allowed hypergamy to rocket out of control.

We have thrown out the proverbial baby with the dirty bathwater and are enduring the consequences of having done so.

MGTOW isn't political?

MGTOW's all politics motherfucker.

edit: 20 comments... no upvotes... hmmm... there's a message in there somewhere methinks.