In the endless war against masculinity, which is a war against men, Duke University has now taken a leadership role. The celebrated university has decided to open a space where men are encouraged to self-flagellate, condemn their own masculinity and confess to the many sins that they personally and their gender collectivelly have committed and still commit against womankind[1]:
The Duke Men’s Project, launched this month and hosted by the campus Women’s Center, offers a nine-week program for “male-identified” students that discusses male privilege, patriarchy, “the language of dominance,” rape culture, pornography, machismo and other topics.
There is, of course, no mention of anything that concerns the interests of men. Everything, absolutely everything, is about how men must behave in regards to women, both in the social and the sexual sphere. And just in case you're wondering whether this isn't just a dishonest summary by Heast, here's how the program describes itself[2]:
The Duke Men’s Project is a nine-week long, storytelling-based program starting Wednesday that aims to discuss masculinity, feminism and intersectionality. It hopes to “create a space of brotherhood fellowship dedicated to interrogating male privilege and patriarchy,” according to its Facebook page.
Of five descriptors here, four directly involve discussing how men treat women, and the fifth evidently must be interpreted in their light i.e. there is going to be no discussion of masculinity that doesn't involve women and female interests in some way.
Here's how the male feminists on the "leadership team" (I wonder how much leadership these low-testosterone ultra-betas can put together) describe the program[3]:
Junior Dipro Bhowmik, who sits on the leadership team, recently said the goal of the Duke Men’s Project is for male students to “critique and analyze their own masculinity and toxic masculinities to create healthier ones.”
Alex Bressler, another junior on the leadership team, said the program would help men “proactively deconstruct our masculinity.”
Yes, these people are sufficiently far gone that they see no problem in leading a program where people are asked to deconstruct their own identity. The idea that you should take a person and shame and humiliate them into believing they are not who they are, don't believe what they believe and don't want what they want is a classic tool of totalitarianisms[4] and cults[5].
As always, a thick dose of doublespeak is employed to hide, misdirect and rationalize the disgusting purpose of this camp. Even then, the project's very own supporters have it so clear in the back of their mind what this project is, that they feel they need to pre-emptively dismiss the association[6]:
The Men’s Project is novel because it provides males a space (a safe space even) in which they can discuss their own gender. It is not a reeducation camp being administered by an oppressed group in the service of the feminization of American society, but rather a space by men and for men.
I'm even wondering if an infiltrator of ours hasn't gotten on the Duke's student paper editorial board and snuck that sentence in there. It's almost too precise and self-aware a description, whereas feminists would generally completely avoid the thought of what they really are.
Regardless, be assured of this prediction: it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Progams like this will spring up like festering mold in most colleges, especially the more prestigious and media-centric ones. Much like "consent classes", in many cases they'll be made mandatory after being snuck in as innocently optional. They will never even recognize the existence of male issues if not in a perfunctory way, always and only for the sole purpose of dismissing them as relatively unimportant beside feminine imperatives. If you're in college, keep your eyes and ears over, steer clear and protect yourself; they are coming for your balls.
[1] [3] https://heatst.com/culture-wars/duke-offers-men-a-safe-space-to-contemplate-their-toxic-masculinity/
[2] http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/09/deconstructing-masculinity-duke-mens-project-aims-to-facilitate-discussions-of-male-privilege-and-patriarchy
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation_camp
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnection#Policy
[6] http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/09/engendering-gender-harmony
Another good find /u/G_Petronius ...
We should be honest here though, no "men who are actually men" are going to be signing up for this. It's going to be marginal men, neckbeards, male feminists and the like who are poor examples of men and masculinity to begin with. This is really just their way of trying to make an excuse for their own failure. Cause being a grown-ass man is hard ... and many would prefer to give up than to persevere.
To quote Archwinger: TRP is about building powerful men. There is a reason it is hard, a reason many men turn back, or prefer the comfort of the blue pill fantasy. What we are saying at TRP about gender dynamics and sexual strategy is not completely unknown outside of here, but when you put it all together and look at it as one, it becomes a very, very inconvenient truth.
This is how loser men compete. It's their own form of masculine competitiveness.
They play along with shit like this to curry favor with women because they can't generate real attraction. Deep down inside, they hope that they really can change society and change the standards of manhood.
Because if they succeed at that (or at least find some women who adhere to those upside-down standards), they're the top dogs. They didn't have to work, change, grow, or excel. They just had to change the rules and now they're the big guys while former "real men" are the losers.
This is how loser men compete. It's their own version of snarky, competitive masculinity.
a thousand times this.
they are equivalent to the diehard, feminist hambeast who shames the high-smv woman for being feminine and shaving her armpits.
True story. I broke my arms a while back. Had to basically start from scratch lifting again, down to deadlifting my body weight and benching little 35 lb dumbbells like a girl. Had to rebuild the bone and cartilage slowly over time.
I could have said fuck it. I'm closer in age to 40 now than 30. Made excuses. Gave up. Tried to change the standards, like the "loser men" noted above. But I didn't. Took a long time, but I'm creeping back up towards 400 lbs on my deadlifts again.
Being a man: You either live it or you don't.
Man i feel you...i snapped my quad leg pressing 280kg...now i have to squat 60 kg from scratch now.
Calling you out. That's being foolish.
It was foolish. I went 25 kilograms over my max leg press. So i accept to the full maximum that was very foolish. I fully accept my mistakes and i own it 700000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
That was probably so gnarly when you tore that shit. Pics?
...You broke, both your arms - what caused that to happen?
Just an accident while I was doing some outdoor recreational activities.
He thought his mum was hot.
I've been lifting for 10 years, currently deadlift reps of my body weight and do DB incline reps with 35s.
I run marathons.
I look at all this and think: something's gotta give. It's really hard to say where it will go. TRP is--rightfully so, a cesspit of negativity to this topic and fear mongering. Don't take that as a polemic though, it's merely how things balance because there are very few places to discuss this stuff. So naturally we accumulate a lot of the disdain in one place.
I have faith in men, and in our biology to overcome. Law 38, "Think as you like but behave like others" has never been more relevant in this context. This generation of dudes coming up may seem like a buncha cunts, but I think more of them are becoming wiser to this horseshit than we'd give them credit for. The manosphere has had quite the impact, a trickling down. I see it everywhere on the net, the terminology just randomly appearing even if a bit distorted. Now we got nerds calling other kids cucks and laughing about it, they parody their own nerdiness by pseudo pedestalizing women and taking on the role of the male savage for the lolz. It seems like just fucking around, but there's definitely a subversive quality to it that can grow.
Ironically it's a lot of the dorky internet savvy kids who are becoming wise to it. For now, it's weak sauce. They rebel in petty ways like memes and trolling, but trolling is a direct response to being inhibited in speech. The internet is only growing to be more intertwined in our lives, so memes have quite a bit of subversive power. Kids troll because they want to exercise the right to say bad things for no reason, people don't get that about the net when they cherry pick nasty tweets or shit like that to reinforce their worldview regarding feminism or some other dogshit.
Feminism is a sinking ship. It's just like any other fad, once it goes out of vogue and something else become more profitable to exploit, businesses will follow suit and then the whole thing collapses. Feminism can't exist without the powerful men who allow it.
Feminism isn't sinking. It is upto us to sink it.
Damn the torpedoes. Four bells, Captain Drayton, go ahead. Jouett, full speed. Sink those cunts!
No. Abort. Sink feminism. Not the cunts. We need them cunts. No homo.
This is one of the reasons /r/the_fraternity exists as it offers men an alternative outlet.
When I was a kid two things happened
Today the war on drugs looks like it's winding down and fags are getting married.
Kid's today are (hopefully) learning that it's OK to be a man.
Instead of competiting for self-improvement to be the top dogs, they play a race to the bottom, literally becoming the underdog.
basically, they're trying to do what women did with feminism
It's quite literally a female strategy when you think about it. It takes away the hard work portion of the "game" and instead tries a Machiavellian method to twist reality one way or another. Doesn't work out for these overweight/scrawny cucks very well.
hey man, I DON'T even know how to generate real attraction yet. even catoring to women is wrong.
This is so fucked up I can't believe it.
people are counter productive as fuck
Sounds almost like women trying to force people down to feel they got higher. While in truth they just fucked up their environment and will likely share some piece of the consequential shit pie.
They are the equivalent of fat and ugly women trying change beauty standards to make men date them. They are the lower loser levels of human beings. We should be grateful for them as they only make better men look more attractive.
This is exactly what the Healthy At Every Size obese women crowd are doing too; changing the standards so they don't have to work, lose weight, etc. They instead of trying to shame everyone for not finding them as attractive. They want men to ride the guilt train until they can compete with women that actually are objectively attractive.
Longtime lurker, and though it's late I wanted to offer some empirical confirmation for this comment:
In one of her books, the linguist Deborah Tannen wrote that men tend to gain status by one-upmanship and women tend to gain status by what she termed one-downsmanship.
Men will boast about their bonus at work, the hot women they have sex with, their new record time on the treadmill, etc. The focus for men tends to be personal accomplishment and how it's more cool than the things other men have done.
Women, in contrast, tend to compete for who's suffering the most, who has the worst problems, etc. This includes fishing for compliments ("I'm so fat and ugly!") or playing the martyr ("I work so many hours at my job then come home to take care of husband and kids, and help with my aging parents"...).
So you're largely on the mark by saying that the guys who will attend these events and take them seriously are likely to be losers who've internalized a more typically female way of gaining status or attention by putting themselves down.
To be fair, changing the rules of nature would be a pretty big accomplishment, so if they do succeed, even partially, they deserve whatever they're getting.
Except they aren't changing the rules of nature, they are lying against the rules of nature to push their ideological agenda. And oh boy, lying to your self-nature and about the way things are is bad news and will only bring out suffering.
These guys are trying to override their unconscious desires/nature because their poor little weak egos cannot bear the indifference and ruthlessness of nature. These guys are pathetic and the anti-thesis of what a male should be. Their ego's want to live in a world that caters to their insecurities and ignores the harsh truths about life.
It seems as times are changing the simple minded are further distancing their ego and their unconscious minds, rather than interpenetrating the two. That is bad news because two different realities are trying to coexist simultaneously. They think their actions are morally right because "equality!" However a different story is really happening. They might say they are for the good of men and women, and equality, but really their nefarious motivations stem from else where.
Not possible. Millions of years of evolution guarantee it.
This is who will be signing up.
That was painful to watch on so many levels. What a miserable piece of shit and the gold standard of blind apologetic cuckoldry on so many levels I don't want to start listing them all. A shining example of what is wrong with society.
I did not need audio to identify the problem individual, memes are occasionally useful time savers.
I'm going to need glasses to read that meme.
The irony here is that every neckbeard, gamma and beta male feminist who signs up will be doing so in the subconscious hope that by ingratiating themselves to women that they will get laid!! Meanwhile the women who know these guys will be using them as emotional tampons and telling them what a pig Chad was last night and how glad she is to have a friend like them. The irony is just delicious, it reinforces the betas beliefs so he is effectively swallowing two blue pills daily and disappearing further down the rabbit hole. As a masculine man you seriously just need to laugh at this shit. When I read the article I was angry at yet another assault on masculinity but it is not. It is just a self help group for the most beta of men. Damn if I was at Duke I would sign up and go along for laughs, it will be better than any comedy show that Duke will put on. Can someone take one for the team and go along and tape the meetings? It would be comedy gold
they're honestly victims imho. The emotionally vulnerable and compromised men are looking for solace and guidance from these gender ideologues rather than finding positive masculine role models that can help guide them. Its just going to end up hurting them more in life and keeping them down. The women organizing this shit are not dating these guys, that's for sure. The guys they are dating are not attending these camps, and at most they pay lip service to feminist ideals in passing
Maybe it's part of the natural order for alphas to rule over herds of betas
You just wait CopperFox3c, they will make shit like this compulsory. I'm not kidding.
That's the big worry here. If some guys want to voluntarily brain wash themselves... more power to them. People deal with this world whatever way they can.
This shit is not for me. What recourse do we have if these social programs are made mandatory?
You either show up and pretend to agree or fight it. I'd probably go with option 1 cause it's easier. Some of my college friends had a get whitey type of class and they argued with the teacher all the time but they just wasted their breath.
In the same way that the CIA had its hand in the rise of feminism, I have little doubt they're not a part of these programs as well. http://www.rense.com/general21/hw.htm
The trend is really quite terrifying when you consider it all in the big picture. Things like these male reeducation camps are not trivial outlying examples. It's part of a slow, methodical reconditioning of society where we will ultimately rule over ourselves. Crowd-sourced fascism. I really hope I'm wrong in the way I'm seeing it. But it's a little too concerning to brush off.
If I went to Duke, I might consider it. The obvious problem with feminist theory is that completely dodges what many non-feminist philosophers consider to be resolved issues. If you refuse to accede to the basic premises and assumptions of feminism and stick to what most today would call a hard-line "sexist" story that men are demonstrably better than women at just about every aspect of organizing a civilization, there's no evidence or logical thought process that they could offer up to disprove you. No matter which way you slice it, the argument that, reproduction of the species aside, women cannot survive without men but men can easily survive without women is pretty unassailable.
It been floating around subs like this one for a few days
This isn't the sort of class one signs up for. This is what gets "recommended" as punishment by "independent oversight" groups.
So the next time a fatty accuses you of patriarchal sexism, this is what will be "suggested" you sign up for to signal an appropriate level of contrition.
"To critique and analyze their own masculinity and toxic masculinities to create healthier ones."
The irony; this is exactly what TRP is. We are deconstructing and analyzing the BP mentality in order to strategize a healthier, more masculine frame of mind.
No! You have to do it the way women tell you!
obvious /s
Yes, they know how to be a man, and what it takes to be one. Girls know everything.
That's what all the TV shows portray.
Dumb husband smart wife. It's so funny!
Fat lethargic incompetent dumb husband, hot capable smart wife. Roseanne was closer to reality, a bunch of stupid fat people arguing over absolute bullshit.
Girls are funny. Get over it.
These bitches don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Funny how women are trying to analyze and define what masculinity is, when they will never even remotely understand it. To quell masculinity is like telling women to stop being vindictive, emotionally fragile harlots. You can't, it's innate.
Well, women are trying to solve problems they have created - first they were quietly saying what men they would like...some men listened, next they said it loudly and "proudly" that they want a partner, someone equal - more guys followed, later they demanded it via political parties and now they will force it - all the time being more and more unhappy, as "these are not the men they want"...and "where have all the good guys go"
True "toxic masculinity" is the idea that in order to be a "real man" you have to "man up" and set aside all your feelings and desires for females/a female and the female imperative.
So in that sense, I'm all for eliminating toxic masculinity, but that would mean eliminating gynocentrism. Good luck with that.
I still want to know how much people are wasted to attend these optional courses, purely for the laughs.
Context: The OP piece was posted on the white knighting sub yesterday.
I agree. Those serious about the subject material will end up here and are welcome and read the sidebar -->
Bonus is that reading the sidebar material is free, no college can beat that return on investment.
That's strange. Strange times we live in.
Self-hatred is a form of mental illness.
No organism was ever meant to loath itself.
That issue was caused by this :
I stopped reading there.
I don't understand the outrage. No one is forcing men (or women) to go. How many people in this sub even go to duke? This only becomes an issue when you make it an issue You guys should really focus on your own lives. I promise you'll be happier. And you might even kiss a girl.
Happily married, so a I kiss my wife nightly. Thanks.
Problem here is that the Women's Center dictates how to run any kind of "Men's Group". But Duke men would not be allowed to create one on their own.
See the problem there?
You're saying there's no all male groups at duke?
Makes you wonder what massive scale brainwashing is necessary to rewire the brain which survived millions of years of evolution. Well, at least to trick it into sacrificing for unrelated women rather than kin.
Hating yourself for being a loser can push you to greatness. Hating your biological urges and genetic programming will never lead to anything good.
Self-criticism for the purpose of improvement and becoming greater than you are is excellent.
This isnt that. This is just self flagellation.
Exactly, self-contempt is not a way to greatness. Self-criticism can be, but also full positivity, it depends on a person.
After I was injured I became like 235 pounds I would insult myself in the mirror.
"Wtf are you doing? You're disgusting. Look at your face it's beautiful and you ruined it you fucking pig" it helped a lot.
Yea but hating yourself for being a loser and improving isn't about haring yourself per sey, it's hating your circumstances and taking the initiative to change them of your own accord. That's actual strength driven and developed through hard work and personal motivation. This whole "men suck" club is promoting the opposite of that. It's there to say you're bad because you have a penis.
I bet shit like this is why we have mass murders in the US.
No, massmurders are caused by assholes who use that as a coping strategy. Or terrorists.
I can see this leading to a high rate of suicides in the graduate pool.
Yup. More proof of "toxic masculinity", I'm sure these boys committed suicide because they live in a culture where they are unable to express their emotions due to negative male gender norms.
Considering they'll be graduates of Duke. That's more of a net positive than most people realize. If anything, we need to get more lib-progs killing themselves and murdering their unborn (aka abortion).
I don't think a masters in "anthropological sociology of contemporary America" counts for much regardless of where it comes from.
A Turd is still a Turd, no matter where it comes from.
It's not self loathing you dimwits ... they 're just trying to recruit the marginalized fucktards nobody invites to boys night, tell them how awful manly men are and how supportive feminism is and indoctrinate them.
And teaching others like yourself to hate themselves too is an even bigger mental illness. Honestly it should be made a crime like pedophilia. Expect more Elliot Rodger cases. A cornered animal, beast or man, is more dangerous than a free one.
What infuriates me the most about this pervasive masculinity bashing culture is the fact that men have grown so physically weak compared to their previous generations, average testosterone levels are so critically low among men and are now almost as weak as women, and on top of that these feminists have the audacity to shame men for being masculine. Fuck you feminists, I hope you develop testicular cancer for all the testosterone pills you take when you get to your early 40's and get castrated, because you don't deserve a pair between your legs. Good thing I live in India and guns are illegal here. If feminism had reached as cancerous levels in here as in the US and if guns were legal here, I'd have gladly started shooting those feminists down until some cop shot me dead. How the fuck you American men are able to keep yourselves from going on shooting rampages boggles my mind.
bro, its the agenda of the world powers. They want to turn everyone into woman so they cannot fight back and are fit for slavery... their sick sense of "world peace".
They saw people waking up to the bullshit and sold off the internet to the UN. Too late, information is already out.
well, its a lost cause you simply cannot control life. It's like a painting trying to control the artist. All this, as you can see, only leads to suffering for EVERYONE involved. People will eventually wake up, and see that all is Mind, and Mind is all, there is no need to control anything. Then we will truly advance. But... who knows when the "leaders"... in fact I won't use that name from now on. The Hijackers, thieves... who knows when they will learn that its simply impossible to control life.
...actually, creating a society where people are literally incapable of fighting each other yet are still happy sounds like a pretty sweet deal. As long as we live in a republic, the leaders will reflect the societal expectations of the citizens, meaning the government can't oppress us either! Where do I sign up?
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You realize he's not serious, right?
It's not naïve, it's entirely within the realm of possibility. All we have to do is implement more pro-femininity camps. It's not like our government would suddenly turn hard-right and revoke these newly feminized men's right to vote, right?
Never read Brave New World have you?
That shit was the best. Fortunately we have machines and electronics to replace anybody who's below at least a Beta-Minus, so we don't need to do all that ugly stunting-at-birth stuff.
A little over the top lol, but your comment reminds me of a picture a buddy of mine posted on facebook that said "1944: 8 year old men stormed the beach of Normandy to almost certain death. 2016: Men need a safe space I'm collage because their feelings get hurt." I laughed pretty damn hard when I read that.
I think you mean 18, not 8
A lot of boys lied about their age to sign up and their parents helped them. Not as young as eight but plenty of teens did. What pussies we are now
Don't feel bad cunt. It was a minority of boys and men.
Glad you posted that. I doubt anyone would have been able to figure out my typo.
your comment should be moderated. It's besides me how you got 17 upvotes to this point. I think feminism is destroying men but your approach is outright sad and I dont believe comments like yours should have any room here. TRP constantly preaches "feeling mitigation" and it seems you were unable to contain yours.
Trolling? There's a lot of ammo here for anti-TRP types.
That is stupid speak. This for me is the worse insult, I won't call you evil, but stupid.
If you have that sort of feelings, then be ashamed of yourself.
A rampage by a males-rights advocate would bring 1000 feminist atheists down on their knees, shedding estrogen-fueled tears of joy in praise and thankfulness to their gods for their good luck.
It would be the ideal excuse for a hundred laws oppressing men. You would be a traitor to what you believe in.
In short, if that is what you feel, shut the fuck up. If you don't, even worse. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Thomas Ball immolated himself on the steps of a courthouse.
Nobody in the national press said a peep about it.
If Ball would have committed arson on the courthouse building instead of himself the press would have descended on the story like the vultures they are - and anyone after that calling themselves a MRA would indeed face criminal prosecution. Definitely laws would have passed to address the "National Outrage" resulting from the sensationalized story. Something would have needed to be done.
Since it was just some poor bastard facing an unconstitutional debtors prison with no release date (basically indefinite incarceration over non-compliance in a civil matter), it wasn't important. Men getting slandered, forcibly estranged from their children, wrongfully prosecuted, forced into poverty, made homeless, being put into unconstitutional debtors' prisons doesn't register on the radar of mass media - men's lives don't matter. Men are less worthy of human rights and dignity than women are.
Never heard of that story before.
I was just thinking the other day reading one of the usual "TRP should organise" posts about how it'd take something like self immmolation to create a spark for change.
Apparently not.
This is how feminized our society has become. A man self-immolating is not an important event. Men are just that expendable. Enjoy the decline.
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No but are you going to destroy a man's life and permanently estrange him from his child over it?
Hey, leave us out of your rants about feminists. They have their own religion, it's quite like yours and uses exactly the same tactics and indoctrination methods.
Those nutjob cunts tried to make us into them by default, claiming that not believing in a sky fairy, that loves you so much he will burn you if you don't love him back, is the same as being a feminist. Fuck that shit.
I was oblivious to all you said for the simple reason the dude is talking about killing people. Initially, i sort of read the first part of what he said and it was ok. Then he goes on to talk about killing people and he seemed to write it with conviction. If you are in favor of proping up another supreme gentleman thats on you man. Ive been w trp now for a few years, have read endless posts and solid advice. Going kamikazee the he describes is far from the principles of TRP that Ive come to enjoy. You talk about shut the fuck up? Serious? Last i checked this was about being stoic and making sound long term decisions. Killing people then offing yourself is not self preservation.
Why do you think there are so many shooting rampages here?
One way or another, you should cool your jets about culture. At least you don't habitually read stories about brides getting acid thrown on their faces from the US.
Masculinity might not scare these cunts so much, if it weren't for cultures with disgusting habits like that.
It's something else scaring them. Responsibilities. You see they want to have a life without responsibility, where they can not have to think our do the hard tasks, and certainly not make the hard decisions. They want it easy, they want to live like girls can, because leading and making your way in life is fucking hard.
That's what scares them.
That is likely true, but it's also subconscious. It is not overt, like the news showing how awful it is for women in many parts of the ME to SE Asia.
Really, it's just more excuses for feminists have to perpetuate their irresponsible behavior.
They don't need excuses, they make shit up. Reality, truth, and facts are irrelevant to them. It's a fucking religion, and it eschews reality and fact to maintain the delusion just like every religion does.
Yes and it's prevalent in every segment of society. From top to the bottom. The average guy just follows the path built by those at the top. Yet when that same path turns to shit, the top will be nowhere to offer guidance. The avoidance of responsibility is inbuilt throughout the system.
With so much of this bullshit working against us, it's a miracle that those of who us are unplugged, managed to even make those first steps out and become what we are today.
Because we have no mental health system. They literally let crazies live among us, then act shocked when they do something horribly crazy.
Well, if we take a look at the news, we aren't.
Much is not Americans though. Orlando2016 Virginia Tech2007 San Bernardino2015 Binghamton2009 Fort Hood2009 Oikos2012 Hialeah2013 Chattanooga2015 is all non Americans.
The San Bernardino attack was by an American.
The one was Pakistan. The other was born here to Pakistani parents. Sunni Muslim.
How do programs like this cause you to stab your roommates a collective 148 times?
Evolutionary wise, one theory to why our brains on smaller than average than those of Cro-Magnons (us a couple thousand years ago) is because we domesticated ourselves. I feel like this is the continuation of it.
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/sep/25-modern-humans-smart-why-brain-shrinking
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He might just be the biggest smart ass in the world.
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No, you are saying that. Try attracting attention to yourself in a way you want to be remembered, instead of branding people to associate you directly with inferiority with your bullshit.
These people are your competition in the real world.
You could almost settle for mediocrity and still beat them by a large margin.
imagine doing this for homosexuals? breaking down why you're gay and getting you to deconstruct your horrible beliefs? no way would this happen
SJWs rant and rave about how evil gay conversion therapy is...but then they organize these self-hate groups.
Imagine doing this for men? breaking down why you're masculine and getting you to deconstruct your horrible beliefs? no way would this happen
Oh.. wait...
Beyond humor it really is disgustingly pathetic how ignorant these people are.
It's not surprising that groups like this are forming. The seeds were planted years ago, in the early 90s, when a war on boys was started. Warren Farrell discusses this as well.
Society has removed the role of fathers from the household, declared boyhood a pathology, created highly feminized upbringing and medications to stamp out boyhood rambunctiousness, and slowly boys and men are falling behind.
Groups like this benefit everyday from traditional masculinity (e.g. the police, construction workers, garbage men, firefighters, miners, engineers, etc.) and yet only want to look at "toxic masculinity" and how that "oppresses" women. And they're really sneaky about it too. If you disagree with them, or have strong opinions on such things, and don't participate in their brainwashing groups, they're declare this to be "proof" of your "fragile masculinity." Confess to your crimes or be burned at the stake!
Imagine doing this for women? breaking down why you're feminist and getting you to deconstruct your horrible beliefs? no way would this happen
This has literally happened. I'm sure it still happens.
When gays are held in a higher regard than men you know the world is on thin ice.
Considering homosexuality is not a gender but a sexual preference, I don't see the validity of your analogy.
This is doubleplusgood. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength
Duke is the site of one of the most famous rape false-accusation cases in recent history. Perhaps the women could use a project of their own.
The Duke Lacrosse case was pretty interesting. One factor that is often forgotten, is that the accuser was a black stripper, and the incident was used by the local media to inflame racial tensions.
Duke students were threatened by blacks, with groups like the New Black Panthers helping to raise tensions, and protesting. Professional race tension instigator Jesse Jackson had offered to pay the accuser's tuition, regardless if she was a liar or not.
This spirit of jumping to conclusions, and demonizing innocent white men before facts are known, continues on with the Black Lives Matter movement.
No One ever spends that much effort telling you what something is not unless it is in fact that very thing.
I scrolled down the comments until I found this, hah
It's not an infiltrator. It's doublespeak.
My son is a 9th grade scholar in the Duke TIP program. I just unsubscribed from their email list and notified them that they will not be getting my $4000 for their camp this summer. Fuck them. This is the ONLY way we can vote - with our dollars.
How people vote with their feet and with their dollars is the surest way to see where they stand..
Duke TIP is a shitty program now anyway. good riddance. there are plenty better programs out there.
Good for you. I suggest looking for another program to sign him into immediately, as his education and development is your responsibility.
Already there - MIT has some neat offerings (his first choice), as well as Rice.
Hey, I'm a Rice freshman if you have any questions about the way of life/academics. Cheers.
First of all: CONGRATS!! Getting into Rice is HUGE.
Quick question about your high school path - did you do AP or IB (International Baccalaureate) classes? My son is currently all AP and in NHS and track.
How is the general culture at Rice?
RP College Admissions.com :) LOL
Thanks!
I took the all AP courses route, highly recommend. If he can, prioritize testing out of the science courses (Chemistry, Physics) because those classes kick ass in university. My school did not have NHS, and the sports complement nicely.
I love the culture at Rice. Everyone is friendly and there's a cooperative atmosphere (rather than competitive). No matter one's nationality or race, you're accepted. Because there are lots of resources, if I want to do/build something, I can. Opportunities fall into my hands.
With regards to feminism, it's small here. One can describe most guys here as beta, and the alphas play sports or lead clubs. The Rugby team here acts as a fraternity, they're great guys. There's no feminist re-education, only a small feminist club. I haven't met many feminists, though I wouldn't hang out with them anyway.
Not everyone is ripped and jacked, but most everyone is fit at Rice. The campus is beautiful and there are plentiful intramurals and the Rec is great.
The girls here are okay. There aren't as many attractive girls like at a state school, but you can find them if you look. Consent is stressed here.
The public parties are alright, and the private parties are where I made my closest friends here. Wet campus, and great alcohol policy. Police department are helpful and friendly (major difference from where I grew up).
Overall, it's a great place set up to give a great future.
I hope you made it explicitly clear why instead of just cancelling
I absolutely did. There was no way to interpret what I said any differently.
Know for a fact that camp is just a cash cow for them. It doesn't impact top school admissions. Spend the money helping them excel at unique interests instead.
4000 for a personal programming teacher for a 4 week crash course could really set your bro up for a nice life.
lol. Like programming makes you top bucks. Sure it may set you up for life if you are actually smart and talented, but for a 9yr old I would prefer something more "general".
Maybe strategy and economic classes? I don't know.
Madness. I'd love to take part in one of these and just shit on everything the whole time I was there. There's no way they'd let me stay, but it would be fun while it lasted. Nothing better than triggering a SJW snowflake.
I suspect thats what a lot of people will do. Pro-male people joining it and turning it into a male safe space and whatnot. Like, anti-SJW, frat-bro, fun, lifting, sports, anime and video-game safe space. Basically a fraternity without the.....questionable parts of fraternity culture.
I'm sure in the interests of equality they are hosting toxic femininity courses too. Totally.
I like how it is hosted by the 'men' in the Women's Center. That is plain speaking at least, because they sure ain't women.
I'm pretty sure the majority (if not all) of the "equality" programs (i.e. title IX) in universities/college institutions are organized by entities whose names/bodies are female-oriented. The school I attend (in the LBC) is definitely showing its true colors now with respect to pro-pussy power (with the new president being an ol bitty, it doesn't really help).
what the hell is even "toxic masculinity"?
where/when is the workshop on "toxic femininity"?
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there is no such thing as toxic feminity.
it's just feminity. the shit testing, emotional manipulation, various mind games & guilt tripping just come naturally... so the word "toxic" isn't really required.
Feminity is toxic in and of itself.
I think they look at egregious examples of sexism and inappropriate sexual displays as proof of its existence. While there are utter douchebags out there and full blown misogynists, it's hardly representative of your average, masculine dude. But yeah, they'd consider catcalling to be a toxic example, and also lockerroom talk where men share their sexual exploits. The hilarious thing about this is women talk about others absolutely brutally in private, including how big a man's junk is, how terrible they were in bed, etc. I knew a girl that told me that the reason she regretted hooking up with a guy and continued to blow him off was due to his dick having a 'weird shape'. I knew the guy too
It all comes down to man's superior strength and power. Women fear this and at the same time are attracted to it. Our greatest weakness is our ability to be manipulated by female beauty. This weakness gives them equal footing in the game of power. A man who cannot be emotionally manipulated is the most feared and most desired.
Toxic masculinity is unwanted sexual attention from a low status male. There is no such thing as toxic femininity because anything a woman decides to do is "empowering".
i looked up Andrew Tan-Delli Cicchi and found his linkedin- no surprise here, he's a Global Cultural Studies major. pathetic.
$50k+ and four years down the shitter for what he could have gotten for a at most a couple hundred on books from ebay. Idiot.
These guys think being a professional SJW is their golden ticket. Considering the modern political/media environment, they might be right, and college campuses are the best place to get started.
To be fair that applies to almost every degree. College isn't to learn and regurgitate imo,it's to discuss and listen to point of views other than your own and logically come to your own conclusions. At least for the art degrees like this guy.
Have you actually been to a university? It's about learning to regurgitate and restrict thought under the guise of diversity, fun, opportunity, and success.
Yes, I have. We clearly seem to have had very different university experiences.
This loser and his ilk are the direct result of loose admissions standards and automatic credit for tuition. Take those things away and they go back to shining people's shoes.
Poor Dipro Bhowmik. And poor Alex Bressler. They'll never, ever, ever get laid. They're doomed to die as virgins, having failed the most basic shit test of all: listening to what women say instead of what they do.
Guys, I know you're reading this. So is everyone else in the Duke program. No one can resist reading someone else talking about them. And we've all seen university professors putting screenshots of the Red Pill in their lectures. They're watching, and their students are watching.
But no one should listen to a bunch of misogynists like the Red Pill! And women SAY they want nice, compliant, non-toxic men! Why would someone say something they don't believe???
Well, here's your homework assignment from someone who actually knows what they're talking about - i.e., not your loser professors who couldn't get a job in the real world and who have to spout leftist bullshit on pain of being fired.
First, Google something called "revealed preferences." The short version: people lie to make themselves look good. The way to tell what they're really thinking is by their actions, not their words.
Second, you should read the following very misogynistic novels written by completely awful misogynists:
1) Twilight (120 million copies sold by the female author to mostly women)
2) 50 Shades of Gray (125 million copies sold by the female author to mostly women)
3) The Flame and the Flower (36 million copies of similar novels sold by the female author to mostly women)
Crazy, right? Someone in the Red Pill is telling you to read a book written by a WOMAN? And romance novels, no less?
Well, reading these books is your first step to getting laid. Seriously.
And even if you don't want to get laid - well, what true male feminist would refuse to read books written by WOMEN which hundreds of millions of WOMEN love? Sounds pretty misogynistic to me! Refusing to read three of the most popular books among women of all time is something only a true bigot would do!
You poor saps are sitting there, thinking that women DON'T want you to be toxic alpha males. Well, if you're right, then these romance novels by women should feature men just like you. Nice guys. Men with no edge. Safe men with no trace of the evil, awful toxic things your Duke reeducation camp is telling you not to do.
Surely they won't feature dangerous vampires who can kill you at the slightest touch, werewolves who can lose their shit and maul their girlfriends if they get mad about anything, damaged billionaires who want to tie women up in their basements, or pirates who rape the female main character for 100 pages straight?
I mean, what women would want to fantasize about something like that? What woman would want to date an asshole alpha male?
Right?
Right?
When you're done reading those three books, come back here and get started on the sidebar. You'll thank me later.
I agree, but no fucking way I am reading that trash. I saw New Moon cause a girl I was fucking loved it and still today I feel dirty.
50 shades was trash but I did like Christian grays character. Again, a woman dragged me. Except I actually learned a lot from how I really enjoyed Christians game.
It was fun predicting what he was doing and then watching him break it down for idiots. It was shockingly accurate in that regard.
Anyone with their head pulled out of their ass already probably shouldn't waste their time. Just looking at the titles of bestselling romance or erotica novels that women buy will tell you enough ("Owned by the Alpha," "Put in a Cage By the Alpha," "Turned Into Property of the Motorcycle Club Bad Boys").
But for someone like these guys, hearing it straight from a bestselling female author's mouth is the only way they're going to learn. They'll discount anything we say as evil. But 125 million women can't all be misogynists.
How is Twilight..."redpilled" exactly? "Careful, I'm dangerous" doesnt seem to it the 'alpha archetype' much...
It's page after page after page of how dangerous her two potential boyfriends are.
"He's a vampire... and if you accidentally cut your finger, he'll smell your blood and freak out and bite you. He can't control himself. He's dangerous. And if you have sex, the slightest wrong movement will kill you. And he can't control himself, and he's dangerous. And if he touches you, he could snap your neck. And he wants to control every single moment of your life. And he has all these enemies who want to kill you. He's so, so, so dangerous..."
If you read 2,000 pages of this and still don't believe women fantasize about toxic, dangerous men who could flip out and hurt them, you're hopeless.
I suggest actually reading "Gone with the Wind"
Universities are not representative of society at large. Most people don't buy into this nonsense.
And even within universities there is growing dissatisfaction with the inability to criticise views on gender, identity, etc.
Any time gender identity has sprung up in my university courses here in NYC the majority of people find the idea disgusting that people think they can arbitrarily switch genders.
Homosexual people in particular seem to have a big problem with it.
The concept of safe spaces is much like the idea of communism, perfect in conception, however the reality will never be that way. No matter how you spin it.
The biggest issue that has support is emasculation.
Our society acts as a pendulum and swings back in forth in its views quite often. We will be entering an era of hyper-masculinity within 30 years. When the boys now become calloused men.
"Our society acts as a pendulum and swings back in forth in its views quite often. We will be entering an era of hyper-masculinity within 30 years. When the boys now become calloused men."
I believe this has already started. We're the living proof.
I've never actually come across anyone who expressed that they found the idea disgusting, even very religious people who arguably have the strongest motivation to think so
I do know a lot of people just have very little time for it though. They think it is either, mentally damaged people or attention seekers, or both. Or just don't think its normal.
Some people also just do not know how they should interact with or think about someone who "switches gender". So just will find being around them uncomfortable.
I have some experience of this - check my post history - and people who just find the idea uncomfortable are usually completely fine if the person can be funny/carefree, intelligent or just generally engaging.
Rarely do I hear the specific word "disgust" used. The more likely terms to be heard are; gross, strange, weird etc.. Accompanied by the facial reaction of someone who is subconsciously repulsed.
Personally, I believe homosexuality is acceptable, switching genders once is acceptable. However, people who maintain the androgynous style accompanied by hormone therapy, but never commit to a gender and identifying as "gender fluid" are quite literally the definition of disgusting. In quite the same way that general bigotry is disgusting. They, by making themselves "gender fluid" belittle the cause of those who actually have chemical unbalances in their mind, which is what causes gender identity issues (at least beyond poor upbringing).
I think this will indeed happen. Society constantly attacks men. Going on the offense is risky but building up a solid defense seems like the only way to go. A generation of calloused men will cause society to do a real 180.
I bet that A LOT of single mothers will be delighted to have their sons purged of their toxic masculinity.
Yeah they do. That's why this subreddit is a thing (and why MRAs are a thing, MGTOW, etc). If people were more traditional and there wasn't betafication everywhere, TRP / the manosphere / whatever you want to call all of it combined, would never have become what it is.
Remember the Laws of Power. Blend. In person we (TRP-only) don't attack Feminism and all that shit all the time, because it's either people who are: fanatics, enthusiastic progressives driven by identity politics who feel they are slightly informed but didn't apply enough critical thinking, or apathetic people who just assume 'Feminism is about equality' and all the buzzwords are valid. There are two categories of dissent: apathetic and doubting, and anti-Feminist and informed.
Even apathetic and doubting knows the loss of social standing that comes going against group think, so they just steer clear. The anti-Feminist should too.
Agreed on your latter point.
I don't on your first. There is a whole world between these two:
extreme feminist, toxic masculinity, gender is a social construct, victimhood sjw nonsense.
The views on society and gender from a redpill perspective
A large number of people fall into this middle ground. By redpill standards it would still be deluded and bluepill, but a large number of people do not agree with the extremes pushed by feminists, sjw's or otherwise.
However that middle ground is forever changing, and it's long due a swing the other way, toward masculinity and traditional gender roles.
Well, I didn't assign a percentage ratio to the groups, only listed the groups.
I'd say the anti-Feminists, the only ones who will stand up and criticize it, are pretty marginal though. Most people are apathetic, or complicit, and when something is as extensive and widely-affecting as identity politics is, that's as good as supporting it. Many believe in at least some of the false narratives that the further-Left-style camps peddle. Identity politics are very widespread and pervasive.
You've got to remember, welfare states depend on this stuff. The government co-opted social justice over the last few decades, in order to expand it's role and levy higher taxes to siphon off of. After colonialism and the world wars the West (specifically the US) had tons of wealth and was fairly peaceful. Especially after 1970. The state's controllers created programs that aren't designed to work, because the government can't do those things if it solves the problems it's exacerbating.
There are massive indoctrination processes to this. They control the schools and universities, and they push their agendas through into HR/corporate culture as well, completely. They obfuscate economics, there's just so much tied into it.
This is fucking hilarious. I used to do some creeping at Shooter's when I lived in North Carolina. I had a buddy that lived in Durham, and we called this place the slut dungeon. You wouldn't believe what happened when the basketball players walked in. It was unreal, you had girls literally throwing themselves at these guys. These guys would be shirtless in a bar. Some of them were tatted up and they'd be encircled by hot sluts ready to suck their cocks. I remember being there in the summer and I was acquaintances with the center on the team. During the summer the ADF was being held and I was banging of the dancers. Her friends found out I knew the center and they began throwing themselves at me just to meet him. It was unreal. All these Duke girls are doing is projecting their insecurities and feeling toward these athletes to every guy there when in reality most of the guys at Duke are really smart nice guys who suck with women.
yup, by all of their defintions, most of those baskettball players are misogynist shitlords, but that doesnt matter because of their status and bodies. They're laughing it up fucking all these hot women with no effort involved, while all the normal, average nice dudes are being indoctrinated in ways to be unfuckable. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. I said it above and i'll say it again here, the guys that are swindled by this shit are victims. They're not the baskettball players, but rather the emotionally compromised, low n - count (if they arent still virgins) nice dudes who don't know any better.
The world has never been kind to guys who don't know how to read in between the lines. Corporate world, dating, education.
I'm going to keep heading down the 'toxic masculinity route' thanks. While I hope society realises that feminizing young men isn't a great idea, there probably isn't a better time than now to be a man with rp knowledge. Enjoy it fella's.
yeah beyond paying mere lip service to the ideas of feminism, most women really don't want a limp wristed, feminine man. This shit is so counterproductive for everyone but here we are
You see the problem is that, because women are praised for their femininity, which manifests in submissiveness and sexual attractiveness, the Hamplanets who've lose the genetic lottery are jealous of their attractive counterparts and bitch about the unfairness of life = feminism. Hot chicks don't need feminism, they've got men queueing up to provide for them. It's ironic that a feminine feminist is a thing of myth.
I can only imagine what these fruitcakes look like
Think about it. A women's group has an initiative to redefine masculinity for men. As if they had mens interests in mind.
Its like a pack of wolves redefining security for chicken coops
They look EXACTLY how you would expect. No style, no swagger, hell they're not even confident holding eye contact with a camera! I wonder if they've ever stared into a woman's eyes and seen that desire they have, while still being able to intimidate them with just that look... actually I don't wonder that at all. None of them have.
Feminized men......so common and they make me nauseous every time
I have no idea what a masculine man looks like. All the men I see in every day life are like those in this video.
I'm surprised they included a black dude. Usually leftists only like to promote feminized white men while allowing blacks to retain their masculinity cause "muh oppression "
That's old since Gay Barry took office. Now an effete black feminist is the fem correct version of masculinity
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJqNnWXIAAvVNE.jpg
Can't make this shit up. What looks like a larval version of Elen Pao on the right and some distinctive woman of color, who happens to be more wide than she is tall, in the middle. Our man Dipro Bhowmik seen on the left, trying to keep his chin up high.
A tantalizing gathering all around, proving that we're making excellent progress toward the dystopic vision of the human being of the future (tall upright blue pill intellectual elite and their stunted dwarf underclass).
You missed the smug redhead in the middle who looks like the quintessential false rape accuser.
Just barely fuckable enough to a thirsty, drunk, white beta who is about to ruin his life over a 4
Her pose and expression were strikingly suggestive, that's the look you see in those old oil paintings depicting white women enslaved by conquering mongol hordes.
Oh my God that is the most accurate description I've ever read
I hope you too weren't wrongfully accused and know this the hard way
It’s important to remember: women completely lack empathy. It is 100% impossible for a woman to imagine that another human may think and feel completely differently than she does, and that this other human’s viewpoint is truthful, equal, valid, etc.
If you express a viewpoint, lifestyle, or priority and it’s different than a woman’s, she immediately assumes you’re doing it for the same reason she would have if she were acting like you. The idea that you might actually be different than she is – that’s beyond her capacity to imagine. Any viewpoint you express that doesn’t mirror her own is done either for attention, to antagonize her, to gain status with people, etc. – because those are the reasons she argues with people and expresses different viewpoints.
So as we remember that this is the mindset of women, now let’s think about masculinity.
Women genuinely believe that you are just like them inside, and that if you act masculine in the slightest, this is done for attention, to antagonize her, or to gain social status. Because that would be her reasons if she were to act masculine like you.
The fact that you might actually be masculine and might actually be different than she is – that’s beyond her imagination. In the eyes of women, we are 100% like them. Everyone is 100% like them. And when people act differently than they do, it’s an attention-grab, an attempt to get to somebody, or an attempt to gain status.
Women genuinely believe that men acting masculine is a mask. A farce. A bunch of insecure guys pretending to be something they’re not because society forces them to. That we’re all strutting about pretending to be men so that other men don’t make fun of us and call us gay. We’re not really like that. We’re just pretending to gain status and get attention.
They see themselves as the liberators of men. Because they know that deep down inside, we’re all just like them. They can’t imagine that we’re not. And they’re going to save us from ourselves by making sure nobody ever has to pretend to be different or think differently than they do ever again.
And loser men who don't measure up as real men and want to gain points with women are playing along with the girls, hoping that they really can change the standards so that they're the top dogs. It's their own form of loser masculine competitiveness.
This is one of the best thing's you've ever written and you need to expand on this concept with a post of it's own. Women cannot conceptualize that people are inherently different. They literally are incapable of it. EVERYONE is IDENTICAL according to women. There is no difference between genders. I've even been told this straight from the mouth of my mother, my ex girlfriend and female colleagues. It's sickening and depressing.
Haha, holy shit I never thought about it like that.
I can't believe this shit. They actually think they're the liberators of men. Haha, this is beyond hilarious, this is some full-retard next-level dumb.
Gentlemen, they actually believe all this bullshit. Can you even believe that? I mean beta's do it to score points but women? They ACTUALLY believe all this crap - no wonder they're so persistent and dedicated to their "cause".
There is some truth to this theory, as both genders are female at embryonic stage. Without testosterone, the guy is nothing more than a bitch with a donger between his legs.
From conception you have either XX or XY. Your very existence is gendered from the moment the sperm meets the egg. Here is a more scientific explanation.
I mean this shit is common sense.
I can't even wrap my head around the likes to people that need a scientific explanation to differentiate between a penis and a vagina.
The first poster isn't off with his post when you consider why men have nippes and the person correcting him is implying he is wrong about his wording.
http://www.livescience.com/32467-why-do-men-have-nipples.html
He isn't completely off base if you consider the fact of why men have nipples.
http://www.livescience.com/32467-why-do-men-have-nipples.html
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/why-do-men-have-nipples/
Even in the Quora link people mention this:
And before that we are a bunch of cells that the untrained could not differentiate from a dog blastocyst. So this really isn't a point.
This is a great thesis (solipsism) but how do you reconcile it with women's innate mastery of manipulation, which implies they must be good at "reading" people's emotions and desires accurately.
This comment blew me away. It made me really sit back and reflect. Thanks for posting it. I have two questions. My first thought when reading your comment was, "why do women overwhelmingly seem to take career paths that require empathy?" But then it dawned on my that they prefer those career paths because they also coincide with access to people. They are social professions. Most women don't want to be engineers and computer science professionals because they simply don't have the same social aspect(and those fields require a suspension of emotional reasoning as well...). I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this.
My second question is, why do a solid portion of women seem to be dickmotized/obsessed/derailed by powerful masculine men? Why the 'hussy' phenom? Is this solely based on a women's desire to control and redirect a man's powers and money/potential to earn for her own gain? Is it really that raw?
Realest post I've ever come across
If this were the case, masculine men wouldn't get laid, because they would just be presumed insecure posers.
You'd be surprised how many women fall in love with the idea of fixing their poor aloof distant asshole boyfriend.
I've always gone with the mantra "when a woman has gotten validation all her life, a man who doesn't validate her intrigues her". She must know why he doesn't. This, of course, only applies to attractive men.
This is a legitimate question and I don't see why you are getting downvoted. My take is that the resources, status, and strength that a mans 'insecure poser' exterior has garnered him is more important to her then his posing. She looks down even further on posers that don't get anything out of their masculine exterior.
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."-Hermann Göring "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of equality and exposing the women to danger. It works the same in any country."
Men are starting to push back: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812787/Don-t-patronise-Freshers-university-s-sex-consent-class-stage-protest-walking-disgust.html
Man these meetings are so stupid. I had to do two of these orientations and patronizing was an understatement. The female instructor was very condescending and offensive. I would expect that most men understand rape and that one's that are mentally unstable enough to go through with rape will not be restrained by these dumb presentations.
Well as I said years ago We live in something like ausulym.I am going to move to Mother Russia or Eastern Europe in the period of the next 10 years.
There is still hope..
Make sure to vote this November
Its a cult. Political correctness is our established religion and masculenity is one of its cardinal sins.
Moving to Eastern Europe countries is like using time machine. The shitstorm you saw in US will be hitting these countries in 3-5 years max. (Source? I live here + people just started posting their circlejerk with rapeculture + wagegap)
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Deconstruct their identity? Imagine if Duke decided to start a class on gay conversion. The logic is the same.
How is the logic the same? Homosexuality is a sexual preference (biological), not a gender (social and cultural).
At first I thought this was a clever joke, reversing the sense of things that are preferences or not.
Then I read your other reply and I see you're just confused. What. Are you on. About?
You don't think gender is also biological?
By definition gender cannot be biological. If it turns out to be true that men are biologically better at math, then that would become a sex difference, not a gender difference. However, the claim that women should not pursue math because they are women, is a gender issue. It's asserting that a woman ought to behave a certain way because she is biological a woman, and a behavior and role is being assigned to her gender by society.
the same place where a crapton of the humanities professors signed "the letter".
Oh, you don't remember that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_88
and a 10-year retrospective (a huge exercise in excuse-making)
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/03/misreading-a-social-disaster-group-of-88-members-look-back
Interesting move from feminists to create a "male safe space", even if feminine-approved..
I wonder if we could take that opportunity of a male gathering to inject some red pill ideas into the program. What about sending an email to congratulate the university for their modern move towards equality and suggesting that, in order to better understand the topic of toxic masculinity, they include reading a few "very toxic" texts such as "Michael's story", "confessions of a reformed incel" and "men are not happy" and get the gathered men to discuss...
What on earth about this makes you think it is a male safe space? It's an indoctrination course. A male safe space is called the pub.
Also the locker room. The shit we say after a game always reminds me of how futile these attempts are. Masculanity isnt fragile.
/u/nzgs and /u/Marsupian
Pub, locker room? You call these safe spaces for men? That's like 'man caves'. A man has only one place in the garage he considers his domain in a house that HE pays for. Fucking pathetic. Men built and maintained everything around you. Our safe space is where ever we fucking stand. Bitches can't do shit without us. Bitches can only do what we allow them to. Bitches ain't shit. The only reason we have to have retreats and watch our 6 is because of all the thirsty-ass, beta-simp motherfuckers fucking shit up for everyone else that has spine and self-respect.
Good point. While Im generally more obtuse in how I express my masculanity in more male dominated areas I have no problem being masculine in public places. Always make the space you are in your own.
pubs are too expensive. though they can be fun :v
If you want to get kicked out of school and waste your tuition money in the process, go for it.
never suggested that such person would be from that uni, or even would be stupid enough to provide name or any other personal detail
ive thought of doing this once i get to a 4-year university but it seems awfully ideal. look at what we're dealing with
This is voluntary self-castration as well as mental self-harm. Forcefully going against nature can mess you up big time. These cucks have a mental illness.
Can we send in an operative? learn about our enemy?
yeah but he'll just ruin his GPA
I wrecked a class with an SJW professor (full failure), but it was still worth it. You can always say 'i was fucked with a cuck SJW, thats why I failed' (more academic/polite) for graduate school and it could work
Where on earth do a group of women get the termerity to re-define masculinity and advise men on how to act?
Seriously. What. The. Fuck.
honestly i hope feminism becomes more powerful and pervasive. more bitch men to compete with = easier pussy to attain.
And more people who will try to make your life a living hell if you ever say what your views are.
Pussy is not worth sacrificing one's nation sanity.
My father told me about there being something similar in Communist countries, where workers had weekly confession sessions, during which they admitted to "sins". If you don't confess to anything, you must be hiding something. I couldn't find the exact description of this term, except struggle sessions in China
So a bunch of bull dykes and limp-wristed queers are going to get together and whine about men.
Who fucking cares?
When I was in university, the lgbt kids had meetings in the house across the street. They were ALWAYS fighting and arguing because deep down, they hated each other... And themselves.
This whole ideology has no base to build upon. It will always crumble. The snake will always eat it's tail.
Funny they're saying that it's not exactly what it is. Was I the only one that chuckled heartily at that steaming pile of rabid hyena dung???
My alma mater has been embarassing me lately with this latest ridiculousness. Terry Sanford has to be rolling in his grave knowing about this and the safe space bullshit.
That's why I haven't donated in last few years. though, it won't change much.
Agreed. This is similar to the public self-criticism A.K.A. 'struggle sessions' that the Communist Red Guards forced on people they considered lacking in spirit during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, difference being that these poor saps are volunteers. But expect this madness to become mandatory if Hillary wins the election.
Shit, if it's gonna be that kind of party I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes.
I'm not a redpill diehard here ... serious question ... what is the point of this?
The only males who will voluntarily attend this are:
Already male feminists who don't need to be "converted" as far as they're concerned anyway ....
Some guy pretending to be a feminist champion so he can pork some hot piece of ass .... also won't be changing any of his viewpoints.
Like ... do they expect a hyper-masculine frat-bro asswipe or football player to just plunk in to this shit? It's not going to happen. Their target audience will never actually go there, voluntarily. Unless it's a punishment center for people who violate the honor code or some bullshit.
As I typeed elsewhere, I suspect #3 will be MRAs or other people from the manosphere or anti-SJW people who go there to just fuck with the thing and/or turn it into a male safe space. For example, when I transferred to my current school - I would not have joined any fraternity due to the costs as well as the unnecessarily gendering of stuff ("man of good qualities" and stuff).
But, if you make a male safe space (say 'male' more often than 'man' to avoid circlejerks over what is 'manly', unless you're being ironic SPIKE TV Manswers stuff) you'll get a lot of people who don't exactly follow fraternity masculinity because of some toxic parts, but can be strongly anti-SJW on their own own (i.e. the gaming club people, or robotics, or whatnot). A fraternity, without the pervasive gender-policing and other bullshit which some fraternities at state schools do (the frats at my school, now that ive interacted with people there, are actually pretty nice - lots of cool people there)
Well, they couldn't make the misandry and left-wing feminazi roots more obvious. They are so confident that people will lie down and take this without protest that it just isn't worth being sneaky about it anymore. And certainly, what is optional now becomes compulsary tomorrow, like the 'rape education' classes that everybody is supposed to take.
But markets speak. If it is publicised enough and enough men don't go to this university, they will be overpopulated with women taking bullshit soft courses and its rankings will sink. Money talks.
I wish zero people would attend.
The Fembots described exactly what the program is by pathetically and preemptively lying about what it is not.
I believe this disgusting feminization of the American male is a full blown symptom of the Cultural Marxism Plague currently underway in the US.
I wonder if the Duke Lacrosse team will be part of this?
There's nothing wrong with deconstructing your own identity, in fact, it could even help someone become more red pill, or help them improve in other ways. But when used to brainwash people into being beta, by telling them that their natural instincts are wrong, that is just sick. It seems that because no one is making themselves beta through religion anymore, they have to find some other way to convince men to be beta, using the same techniques religion used.
I have a feeling that most of the guys who will go to it are beta to begin with though, and just want to surround themselves with other betas. Then they can talk about how they can't get laid because of "toxic masculinity" and hug it out so they feel better about it, because it isn't their fault, it's the "patriarchy" that is holding them back.
I don't see Chad attending and coming out of it like, "Damn yo, I better stop slaying pussy, and put a ring on my favorite plate so we can be monogamous for the rest of our lives!"
Maybe we should see if it's open to the public, and get some red pillers in there to throw them off. Say things like, "Marriage is toxic because it implies the woman belongs to you and you alone, and owning women is wrong!" and, "It's toxic to pay for dates because that implies that men are better off than women financially and that women are unable to take care of themselves!"
I'd love to see how the group and the feminists react to shit like that.
most feminists would agree with you.
HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN "PRAY THE GAY AWAY" CAMPS???
how quickly the cultural pendulum swings
This is the fruition of the sneaky mentalities that led me to depression when I was younger. Now they make me angry, knowing the purpose is retardation of the quality of life.
That said, the anger has given me guide me to improve my life and as much as it'd be awesome to go back in time and unlearn my programming years ago, being able to see this now still reminds me to take it easy.
In regards to this, all I have to say is any group that expects me to explore my "toxic nature" better be willing to do the same, otherwise they're just bullies and they can suck my left nut.
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I learnt that 5 years old children are told about gender theory before they learn the name of the days of the week. The books they are given are called something like "Marc has two mums" or "Marc wears dresses".
I mean what the fuck. What is going to happen ten years from now when those people will have the right to vote?
Are they forgetting about testosterone? You can't re-write God. It would take thousands of years to brainwash the man out of men. What a waste of time.
Bruh testosterone is declining by the year
Fuck these losers. Be happy you made it out and figure out how you can profit from these feminized weirdos.
Men's makeup and accessories is looking like a nice market to get into.
They don't want to make you keep taking the bill pill they want to strap you down and shoot it in your veins.
The irony of it being the same university where the lacrosse team suffered endless unfounded scrutiny over the shit-faced slut that falsely accused them of rape. All they were guilty of was "looking" like somebody who "could" have raped her. One kid was literally a fuckin kid! Being men, I doubt that any of the accuse'es filed for "emotional distress" or "ptsd" like some women claim. They have a great case for it though, it was absolute GARBAGE what they went through over some ghetto hoodrat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mgb3VtVFgQ
Wanna guess ((((who)))) is spearheading it?
.r.bluepill is leaking into the real world.
It will just create more man that are doomed to become bitter, and will backfire spectacularly.
The whole new wave feminism is pretty much "shoot yourself in the leg" in the long run.
"story-telling" aka no logic or evidence, what so ever.... Have fun with that boys. So glad my college experience wasn't this toxic shit hole kids have to deal with these days.
hahaha, the lunatics are running the asylum.
Here's the short.
I don't care if I am the last one or not. I am going to keep on being a man and proud of it. and a proud straight white man at that. I have had to do almost all of it on my own, and have made sure I paid my dues and interest when others helped me.
I never received my "get everything free" straight white guy card ... but after the crap I hear everyday ... I would take it in a second and laugh each time I revved up my Yacht. Why? I'm already paying for it.
So if being proud of myself and what I represent and the work I have accomplished makes me a bigot ... then I'm a bigot. call me a bigot. If it makes me sexist .... start calling me a sexist. Because the groups that would do that have played their cards too often and can't be taken seriously now. Also, they would be using discounted labels that have no truth in reality. just a label to try to shame me into not being a man ... are trying to feel guilty for being straight or white.
screw those guys. and as I have said before: "Why are all of those feminist pedophiles even talking to me? They don't like me. They don't offer me anything. I offer nothing to them. Why don't they get the clue and go the hell off somewhere?
It's not like we are ever going to see eye to eye.
It's not like guys like me aren't going to continue to get their "feminist" girls when they start having an "itch" or when they grow out of this phase.
It's not like the same little fish aren't going to show up at this event, and say the same tired rhetoric ... then have a few guys who just want to speak their mind get yelled out (loud equals right is one of the feminist favorite tactics) when they disagree and want a civil discussion.
I mean, I thought men were the barbarians ... but feminist can NEVEWR debate on a fair footing. they run like ... well, like bitches.
I really grew up with almost no hate. when I had it , it was personal. someone did something and I was mad at them. In my 40s 940S!!!!) these progressive liberal groups are teaching me to hate them in a dangerous and undefined stereotypical fashion.
it of course begins with them hating me and trying to shame me in a undefined and stereotypical fashion.
most women don't want feminized men. Like sure, don't be a douchebag, but that's a given. Masculinity isn't about that; guys that act like fucking idiots to women are largely misguided about what masculinity is. Theirs is not a true masculinity imho, but their best imitation of waht being a man is like. Lack of good father figures is often a cause in my experience
Universities are becoming a thing of the past. At the end of the day, highly driven, motivated people will look elsewhere to get their knowledge and training to better themselves. Life is short, it's even shorter if you have to devote a significant amount of it to training before you even start "living".
People are just going to opt out, men especially. Then these universities will be on welfare status and become nothing more than a farce. What is "prestigious" about enforced segregation quotas, race and gender based scholarships, gender and political discrimination? Nothing - it's nothing other than completely disgusting, a tragedy for the ages.
Men are simply going off the grid, they will self-educate if necessary.
i don't fully agree. There is no way you can replicate the sciences elsewhere, at least not half as effectively. How are you going to participate in labs and other functions the university provides? LIke it or not, for a lot of things, university is still good and relevant for.
Well that's why I refer to it as a tragedy for the ages..
No you can't replicate it without generations of rigorous organization and practice. Medical, engineering and hard sciences - they are going to be brutalized by this subversive, destructive movement.
In 20 years western countries will start to (literally) fall apart, because the most important fields will no longer be standardized in the way that they used to be. You will have leftist, communist bureaucracies ruling over the most disciplined fields with an iron fist.
People can self-educate and make enclaves on their own to survive, this will be good despite the total and unbelievable loss of higher institutions.
There is no end in sight. Western civilization is pushing hard for sweeping immigration, and it's going to cause total brain drain throughout all of society. It will be more important to fill all positions with a non-white skin color than to maintain the integrity of those fields.
It's over. This is what Globalism is supposed to be - obliterating the playing field and leveling it off below the mean, for the greatest measure of control.
You don't have a college degree do you.
Of I went to duke I would either a pull a cartman or stand outside and protest it.
ayy lmao is all i can say
God forbid making it mandatory tho
Solution:
1) Attend
2) get drunk
3) rip cigs
4) shit all over everything
I would like to sign up, but ironically.
Don't worry about it. It will only appeal to betas and women, whereas Chad will still act like Chad and get all the pussy. Treat them like the trolls they are - ignore.
More concerned about the kid who is unsure about himself and this program leads him down a path of hating himself for the next 15 years.
The red pill is here for everyone to read. Can't save people who don't want to save themselves
Still sucks to see someone kick a puppy who doesn't know better.
"The Dukes Men's project [...] hosted by the Women's center"
There's your problem. Might as well be "The Warsaw Jews' project hosted by the Hitler center.
The men who attend these things are the same types of guys who were seen outside cities of the crumbling Roman empire whipping themselves as payback for their sinful ways so that God will make the Black Death go away.
In other words, they're fucking nut cases.
Your history is a bit off, but I get the point.
The signs seem to be clearer each day. There's a social war going on and if you're not taking a stand you're just as responsible.
Is the United States turning into North Korea? I used to dream of going to one of these big schools, but after reading about the insanity that festers within these institutions for years now; no thanks.
This is the most blue pill thing I have ever read.
It's being run by the campus women's center, which is usually a student group, not the university. Women's centers at universities are always a group of male-hating hambeasts.
Although universities are cesspools of SJW PC thought police, I don't see this as any sort of policy change by the University itself.
Duke has always been a mangina academy.
Nothing new there.
Natural selection is going to be such a bitch. Reality will be even worse.
How the fuck am I supposed to ger out of the anger phase with this bullshit going on!? Gah!
We oughta get someone to stand outside that shit and pass out free copies of no more mr. nice guy
Imagine if a group of men encouraged women to deconstruct their toxic femininity?
This is the greatest thing I've ever heard of. Anyone who joins has already had their man card revoked. It just takes the weak out of the general population. So - there's a bunch of guys in class .. the women already know which ones are neckbeards. Such a shame going through college and not getting laid.
Imagine what it must be like in Academia right now - classrooms where 47 out of 50 students are women, while they teach "gender studies" and train the males on how "not to be a rapist". Imagine 16 years straight of the education process with no breaks in between. - They really didn't stand a chance.
This is not real no fucking way, don't tell me USA is that fucked up
Classic beta indian hamster overload with that junior lol
https://www.google.it/search?q=Dipro+Bhowmik&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj15_HxlcHPAhUJCcAKHUZxADUQ_AUICSgC&biw=1292&bih=568
Really it's written on his face "oh my, blondes... please... blondes."
I think this feminization has a lot to do with visual seductive imagery. Like if a mind isn't free and the body isn't very alpha etc this totally fuck up young minds. To know these ladies are all giving it for free, they are all around you, cheering, and won't ever touch you with a stick or acknowledge your existence can make wonder to develop some schizo disorder.
Hey, just out of curiosity, has anyone compiled, like, a website that details colleges in the United States and rates them for favorability to males? I like the idea of hitting leftist college administrators in the pocket book more than hitting any other person/group in the pocket book.
If not... we should get on that. It'd be like the BBB, but for colleges and men. It's even helpful for feminists, so it's equal opportunity! They can scroll down to the schools on the bottom of the list, and see which ones will confirm their pre-existing biases best!
The more they treat men like dysfunctional girls, the more reality and truth needs to be injected into their cold, dead hearts.
Disagree. I love seeing crap like this. Thin the competition.
I am only going by the quotes, but "debate" implies presenting opposing views equally rather than suppresing/brainwashing. I would be up for that debate, if it was near where i lived :)
I graduated from this institution recently. My junior year, I was invited to attend a completely different "privilege retreat". The space was dominated by women/feminists, and I was accosted for simply having a penis. When I returned from that weekend, something didn't sit right in my soul about the state of the world. Then I found this sub.
The problem with this system is that it only takes one aware guy to break it. Most men are naturally drawn to a hierarchy, and if there is even one alpha as fuck guy who refuses to submit to this bullshit, who embodies true masculinity, then other guys will follow his lead and his example. Sure, there will be self flagellating betas who submit to this nonsense, but they will remain at the bottom of the hierarchy where they belong, others will see their failings, and they remain unfuckable pariahs.
This is just batshit insane. Amurica is fucked mennnn. If this shit flies over to the EU I am outa here.
Refugees and batshit feminism? Lol NOPE
Just fucking lmao at any "male" that still pays to go here.
Oh look another way young men are being forced out of the education system. This is getting out of hand, and every male student should move to have that program shut down.
Ironic that Duke's mascot is the blue devil(s).
fuck me... i feel like i need to go to duke now and open a programme just for men, where we can do manly things, like drink beer and watch football, go camping, and play some sports ffs!
Reading this reminds me of that episode of "The Simpsons" where Homer joins the leader cult. Just think about the batman theme song loudly in your head and you'll be fine.
= Shit Test - Do not fall for it.
Someone should open the exact same thing, turned inside-out for women that "self identify as female".
Seriously, what a load of shit.
I think whats ever gayer than this stupid class is that people think anyone but already-beta cucks will attend it.
Its not a class. It's another outlet for the echo chamber
Saving to read tomorrow before leg day. It will be good motivation at the squat rack. (The man forge, as I call it.)
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
How is this shit even legal?
I really think that this subject should be thrown to the main body of reddit for female input, surely they must see this crap for what it is.
This is good, eventually these universities will be cranking out a bunch of sponge cakes. Less competition. Perfect.
You can put it in a dress, pile flowers on it but at the end of the day horseshit is still horseshit. All these women are doing is biting the hand that feeds them.
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Don't forget it seems to be in the women's center...
After Trump these sorts of camps will be outlawed.
Man, how the fuck does anyone fall for this kind of shit?
Who on earth thinks this stuff is cool/good/worth being involved in?
It goes something like this:
"If I prove how sensitive and in tune with feminism I am girls will be impressed and want to date me!"
I was laughing so hard through this post I almost didn't make it to the comments.
In all seriousness, thanks for posting this. It's shit like this that reassures me of the necessity of our community.
I wish I was going to Duke so I could troll the shit out of them
It's crazy how America is looking more and more like a ripoff of the Soviet Union by what you post here.
I got perpetually pissed while reading. Gonna go punch queen bees.
''they are coming for your balls.'' LOL
Holy shit, anyone submitting to that should just castrate themselves and get it over with!
I suspect Manosphere people will take it over and turn it into a pro-male and anti SJW male safe space.
i wonder how many negros are gonna be subjected to this..or arabs.
"Negros"? What century do you live in?
Gentlemen repeat after me; I'm a man. I apologize.
Good boy. Here's a cookie.
"Encouraged" now, required course later.
Anyone who signs up for that course is a male....NOT A MAN!
I try to make a point of mentioning to my friends the difference, "never refer to those males as men....it's insulting to the rest of us!"
This makes me feel the same way I felt when I watched Neighbors 2 a few weeks ago. Fuck this.
Lol it isn't mandatory. Just dont go lol
This is it; for first time since H.W., I will vote Republican. This will never end, and get much worse w/ Hilary.
I suggest the solution to the problem is to promote lifting and everything will solve itself.
It will stop once isis or some other barbaric shit tskes over.
Fuck Duke! I keep saying over and over if you go to college stick to either a Conservative School like Liberty, Oral Roberts, Grand Canyon or similar schools if not that an online-only school like Thomas-Edison University.
Definitely don't go to Liberty if you care about science at all.
True for the science part, but you can still go for the business degrees.
As an alumnus of Duke, I am embarassed by the school's direction.
The first few minutes talk about Reno, Nevada being the new "Offshore Tax Haven" for the globalist bankers, but then they talk about Burning Man and their weird census:
https://youtu.be/J8QkUSl3m4I
...the objective is to confuse people about their natural body.
This is what happens when you cram a few million of the dregs of European society into one beautiful piece of continent: for centuries, people mistake 'land' for 'country'.
The best part of the discourse is - in appr 10 years, the birth rate in the US will go through the floor and the world will be rid of all of y'all crazy mfs.
just because one is a male does not automatically make them a man. fucking hamster fags
Wouldn't a sports bar fit the bill? ;)
I wouldn't at all be surprised if kikes were behind this.
"ultra-betas" Do you mean deltas?
Forgive me, since when is being introspective and having discussions a bad thing?
If they really hated masculinity they wouldn't create the class but instead insist that it cease to exist. If masculinity needs a revamp because of feminism, I mean, I wouldn't argue against that. Rather be masculine and accepted by society than masculine and rejected. You can still identify as misogynistic in your locker rooms. But in public now you could start influencing on what is considered masculine in this post-feminist world. I think all TRP inclined men should be happy such a class exists. As long as you could present you view intelligently and backed by evidence, how could a university honestly condemn that speech ? I think the point of this is to open a conversation. Instead of viewing it as an attack, view it as an opportunity.
Believe me. There's no revolution happening where you take back your masculinity by storm, it's just not happening and you know it. Instead of rejecting society now, why not try to influence it, so that it becomes closer to what you want it to be. If that means you go and say it's not masculine to talk about your thoughts, that's fine. Go and define masculinity for others even if it means being slightly feminine for 30 minutes. Believe me, a true masculine man would not become effeminate because he simply discussed masculinity in the presence of women.
Look guys, I found an alien impostor. No way he could be living on our planet.
Maybe my university was different than the average then
Jesus christ you guys are insane
Your post history reads like a crash course in how to be a massive pussy so I'll take that as a compliment.
Oh yea, using female anatomy as an insult. But you guys totally aren't misogynists, sure
You're right, surely anyone who uses "pussy" as an insult is a misogynist. Of course, anyone who uses "dick" as an insult is therefore a misandrist. So why does it take me five seconds with Google to find you using "dick" as an insult? are you some sort of misandrist?
Except your post history is filled with sexist comments, and mine isn't. Not to mention that if you actually read my post history, it's filled with anti-misandry. And considering you're clearly insane and have no life, you definitely have time to waste.
So wait, using a gendered body part as an insult is sexist, except when you do it? how does that work?
Also, feminists always tell me that misandry doesn't real, whereas you're now professing to be an anti-misandrist. Does that mean you're anti-feminist? and doesn't that mean, by the same feminist logic, that you're actually a misogynist?
Language policing is gay. Real men have been calling each other pussies and dicks for generations, you retarded faggot.
Right, "real men," as opposed to those fake men.
I was being facetious, but I actually agree with you on that. In order for a man to be a man, he literally just needs to be born with XY chromosomes.
To be a truly masculine man, though, that must be earned.