Ran into a girl from high school I used to orbit

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April 19, 2020

I guess rant/venting might be the wrong flair for this, since it’s not really negative, but I flaired it as such because it’s basically the same thing. There’s no real point to this, I just wanted to talk about how much of a good mood it put me in.

There was this girl I used to orbit in high school, we’ll call her “M”. She was HB9/10 at the time, every guy who knew her wanted to fuck her. I was probably the worst of her orbiters, I put her on a pedestal, followed her everywhere, dreamed of marrying her, etc. Of course, in return she just rejected me and took advantage of me, no surprise there. I stopped talking to her a long time ago once I finally realized how much I hated giving her everything and getting nothing in return.

I ran into her at the grocery store today and had a pretty long conversation with her, just catching up. I always knew the wall was a real thing, but I’ve never actually seen it for myself until today. M is now 200-300 lbs overweight, has 4 kids, and has been married/divorced twice. I don’t know why I feel guilty for feeling this way, but I was fucking elated. It was a real “look how the tables have turned bitch” moment for me. I’ve been in a great mood all day. Of course, now she shows IOE’s, even though I’m having none of it.

In high school I was obese and ugly, but since discovering TRP a few years ago, I’ve dropped all the weight, built some muscle, and have never looked/felt better in my life.

I guess if there was a point to this post, it’s that rejection isn’t always a bad thing? I mean, I seriously dodged a bullet.

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Title Ran into a girl from high school I used to orbit
Author Zorrostrian
Upvotes 868
Comments 151
Date 19 April 2020 10:21 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/656161
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[–]pmtiggobitties524 points525 points  (6 children) | Copy

This post right here is exactly why the TRP exists.

I stumbled into this place in 2015 I believe. It changed my life for the better and I too have seen it play out in real life.

It's kinda beautiful.

[–]Snowpeartea44 points45 points  (0 children) | Copy

I came here few years ago as well. My life has just been a roller coaster. Ups and downs.. eventually the ride ends and you go for another up and down. It truly is beautiful

[–]DerpJungler23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

Discovering TRP, reading "The Rational Male", finding a purpose and working on myself changed my life.

It was a chain of events that triggered each other and transformed me as a person.


[–]pmtiggobitties25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I lurked around for a bit, thinking what a bunch of lunatics. The more I read, the more the puzzles of life seem to fit.

Read the sidebar about a week in, and holy shit. It was an instant epiphany and realizing what my pops tried to instill in me was true. I was a fool for believing the fairy-tales of female unicorns.

The Wall man. The fucking Wall.

Thats the Indicator. That is the ultimate executor. Fuck these hoes.

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[–]pmtiggobitties5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have to agree. After the last election, this place sorta became incel home for people to voice their political opinion.

I mainly lurk now, but when when I do see a post heading in the right direction. I'll comment.

Kids are misguided. The several stages of acceptance of TRP, anger, etc, need to be dealt with in a positive manner. Accepting the emotions or whatever, instead of lashing out.

Then use that bitch to your advantage and get some pootie tang.

I'll see about posting personal field reports from the past. I've been a little too focused on myself lately. Building personal wealth, traveling, etc.

I'm not caught up in getting ass as much so when it rolls around I make sure the bitch is worth the trouble that they all eventually bring.

[–]chomponthebit238 points239 points  (5 children) | Copy

Slight segue, but I’ve also encountered women who were ugly ducklings in high school who blossomed in their 20’s or 30’s via dieting, training, maybe a touch of cosmetic surgery (I’m NOT talking triple-Ds). And dating one is so refreshing because she retains the humility of someone who wasn’t “naturally wealthy” even though she has a killer body and newfound confidence.

I truly wish more women would adopt the self-actualization RP offers instead of body-positive shiet

[–]basilisk_girth56 points57 points  (3 children) | Copy

My ex LTR was like this, she was a 6 when we met and during our 5 year LTR she kept on working on herself to the point where DJs in the were sending her dms.

One guy bought her an iPhone, but the humility was always there. She still stayed with a broke dude like me even when she peaked, those are the best but are hard to spot.

[–]KylieJennersbutthole44 points45 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know a girl that was like a 5 maybe a 6 on her best day in high school. Sweet little Viet chick that would occasionally talk to me about random stuff even though all the other girls wouldn’t even look my way. I didn’t know it then but I realised after I dropped out that she wanted to smash. She wasn’t the prettiest, had acne all on her face that was covered poorly by her make up but I saw the potential.

Anyway after she graduated she glowed up. Saved a bit of money and went on a solo trip around Europe, got tattoos all over her body, posted some lewd pics on IG, you know the drill. Thinks she’s king shit now because she has a few thousand followers.

Funny how these girls either take one route or the other.

[–]basilisk_girth26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

The harshest “it’s not always like that bro” yet, lol.

[–]KylieJennersbutthole21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m so glad the pill whacked me over the head at a relatively early age

[–]asdf333aza250 points251 points  (19 children) | Copy

The wall takes no prisoners. That's why femknist are so dead set on this body acceptance movement. Eventually, most of them will end up looking disgusting and they want men to be their to clean up.

[–]bjcm5891108 points109 points  (9 children) | Copy

Like simps, they mistakenly think attraction is something you can negotiate.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that42 points43 points  (8 children) | Copy

Except it's a fuck ton easier for women.

How to be attractive to men as a woman:

  1. Dont be overweight, keep a slim waist weight

Thats it. It's that simple.

[–]bjcm589116 points17 points  (6 children) | Copy

Up to a certain age it's a fuck ton easier. Then the tables turn in our favour.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that34 points35 points  (5 children) | Copy

Not automatically in men's favor.

You still have to

  • lift regularly
  • make money and/or status
  • display value
  • hold frame
  • etc

A 40 yr old simp isnt any more attractive to women than a 18 yr old simp.

[–]bjcm58919 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

A 40 yr old simp isnt any more attractive to women than a 18 yr old simp.

This is true, but a 50 year old guy with the qualities you listed is still far more likely to have a satisfying sex life with the girls of his choosing than a woman the same age who was a solid 9 at age 25.

[–]throaway4000s10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not attractive, but women's options run out around 40 and they're more likely to settle

[–]1Ill_mumble_that5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gross. Those women aren't considered an option imo.

[–]surfsusa7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Actually they are way less than an 18 yr old. An 18year old can still be molded and have the stamina. That is why older 40+ yr old women will bed young dumb and full of cum 18 yr guys. Men are expected to grow up, take on the world and get better by the time they are 40. Once a man gains experience he should gain confidence and that will show on their face and in their walk. So if by the time you are 40 and you haven't succeeded in something women see a Big Capital L on your forehead.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

100% truth.

Men dont age like fine wine. That implies passiveness.

Passiveness is death to men.

[–]MRPTriangle-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

All I'm hearing is "wah wah wah, being a man is so hard".

Fucking get up off your ass and hit a one rep max and be happy about it. If you hate being a man so much, you haven't taken the redpill at all, you're just pretending because it massages your fee fees.

[–]KylieJennersbutthole25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Straight up truth . A lot of these self proclaimed feminists are already in that phase before they even hit the wall too, half shaven head, tattoos everywhere, coloured hair. It’s like they put themselves on an escalator to reach the wall.

They want body acceptance to be a thing because no man worth his salt will ever look their way.

[–]CybeTech15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most of them already look disgusting lmao

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve never met a feminist that wasn’t disgusting on sight 😂

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

New Red Piller here! What is the so-called “wall” you guys are talking about?

[–]asdf333aza27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy

Point where girls go from looking hot and young into looking like their fat mother or an really hideous teacher from your grade school days. The change is usually really sudden. Like within a year, she will go from pretty college cheerleader to designated ugly fat friend. Thus the wall. She was on one side of the wall where everything was great and then abruptly finds herself on the otherside where it sucks for her. And due to the sudden change their sexual market value drops and then they don't know how to function when they aren't getting preferential treatment from being attractive. Usually happens around 28-35ish. We just say 30 for good measure. And if she starts popping out a shit town of kids it can happen sooner if her body doesn't bounce back. Regardless the wall at comes. No female remains attractive forever. At this point or close to the wall approaching, when her looks start to fade and she's not nearly as attractive as she used to be, she starts looking to settle down, after riding and fucking various dudes when she was hot. The guys that she used to fuck won't want her anymore and then she will get an ego check and start looking for lower level guys, or betas, or guys she rejected before. She will attempt to lock him into marriage so she doesn't grow old, ugly and alone by herself. They weren't good enough for her before but now that she's old and fading, now she wants to work it out. She will try to make him work hard for the vags that she was giving to the alphas for free. And when men don't want to date her now that shes older and not as pretty, they get bitter and angry cause females can't tolerate the rejection that they have been dishing out. So they end up criticizing men and asking "where are all the good men"?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for your in-depth answer! This community rocks

[–]jihocech3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

35yo guy (and older) dicovers value of himself and his time. I am married, but would I be single (death or divorce), I would never marry again, never cohabitate, I value my hobbies and peace and clam. I really do not understand guys over 50 being fathers of babies...

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got to see the pic of a prominent feminist in my country and it looked like someone who smoked, used weed and hadn't bathed or combed their hair for a year... Her only saving grace was that she wasn't obese. Can't believe it's people like this influencing popular opinion.

Ever noticed that virtually every one of these cases are totally unattractive, both inside and out? Why do they do this to themselves?

[–]BlackendLight270 points271 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dont feel guilty. She certainly didnt back in high school

[–]totoro_make74 points75 points  (1 child) | Copy

This. Women have %100 no real sympathy when the tables are turned and they’re the one with the higher smv. So you shouldn’t feel bad in the slightest bud. Always keep working on yourself and you’ll look back at all the hot girls you used to orbit/think highly of and laugh.

[–]brockbridges54081 points82 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely, and consider that she's basically the same person only now she's learned to adapt through manipulation, and that's why she's nice to you now.

[–]1New_Guard93 points94 points  (18 children) | Copy

As a dude in my late 30's, there are only a few of girls from my high school years who I would be willing to fuck if they offered themselves on a silver platter. Considering that my graduating class wasn't super large, I suppose that's probably better than average for the country. But there are a huge number of them who look absolutely horrific. It's the nature of the game man. Making a long-term commitment to almost any woman is failing to doge a bullet.

[–]DareyFathom56 points57 points  (16 children) | Copy

I'm in my mid 30s and was home a few months ago for my mom's funeral. Some girls that used to be very attractive in HS have fallen off a cliff. Very few of the formerly attractive girls in HS were even fuckable any more. It's disgraceful how many people let complacency win over self discipline.

[–]Chitlinsandgravy28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

Complacency goes hand in hand with solipsism.

[–]LukesLikeIt20 points21 points  (14 children) | Copy

They get fat and refuse to try look attractive to their husband then once divorced get in shape ASAP... why not for the one you supposedly love? Na but you’ll get fuckable for a stranger

[–]mikkeldaman20 points21 points  (13 children) | Copy

Because most men also get complacent after they get into a relationship or get married. They no longer care about attracting women because they already have their unicorn. If the man would maintain a high SMV throughout their relationship, the woman would follow suit because she wouldn't want to lose such a catch.

[–]HiredNote5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

If the man would maintain a high SMV throughout their relationship, the woman would follow suit because she wouldn't want to lose such a catch.

I dunno, man.

The dude is already slaving away at a 9-5(which he probably hates) and financially supporting her for the rest of her life. Knowing that he's sacrificing his freedom to provide for should make him high value enough.

A woman can have 1,000 guys attracted to her, but only her husband is willing to sacrifice himself to give her a good life. The rest just want sex. Doesn't that already make him more high value than the 1,000 other guys?

[–]mikkeldaman0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I dunno man... I let my girlfriends slave away. Used to have a 9-5 but I decided I prefer to party all day.

[–]HiredNote-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

You don't have a girlfriend. You're Romanian. All women over there are prostitutes.

[–]mikkeldaman5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Actually you're wrong. I'm American with a Romanian mom. And your mom is a cock sucking whore.

[–]HiredNote1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

A dude with a Romanian mom calling someone else's mom a cocksucking whore is like Kanye West trashing someone else's wife for being an attention whore.

[–]mikkeldaman0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Did your mom teach you what it's like to be trashed?

[–]jihocech-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

It is impossible in long term. Part of "falling in love" is freshness of all that. You cannot have romance for ever. Marriege is not romance in a can.

[–]mikkeldaman4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

You should not get complacent for your own sake.

[–]Howdoiusesync2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

After my second LTR that brought me here this actually works so well when even spinning plates. You'd be surprised how many dudes I've seen broken up because they got complacent within a few months.

[–]mikkeldaman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

With plates it's kind of a given because in my mind plates are to men what orbiters are to women. Practically you are still on "the hunt".

[–]Howdoiusesync1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

what i've noticed is many new comers here still don't get it that way. But I agree 10/10 works.

[–]drsherbert35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good shit bro. She was a flash in the pan like many others. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

[–]comcain36 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy

I've run into one of the high school hotties a couple times. The first time was at a t-shirt shop, where she was so stoned she couldn't select the letters to put my name on a t-shirt. The second time she lectured me about doing balloon shows for kids, and how she could "outthink" them. (Well, duh.)

She clearly had been pumped and dumped many, many times. What was sad was she automatically assumed she was "superior" to me since I'm in IT. Still stuck in high school where I was in the computer club.

It was a real lesson in, "Many dreams come true, some have silver linings" (Led Zeppelin).

I skipped my high school reunions several times because of attitudes like hers.


[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

I skipped my high school reunions several times because of attitudes like hers.

I went to a couple, one I was banned from because of my crazy ex, though. if you can divorce yourself from the negative emotions it's actually a bit like a wildlife safari.

At the thirty year one one orbiter finally nailed his oneitis in a van in the parking lot, put her out the door, and drove off. Mission accomplished, I guess?

[–]VantablackPill8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes I wish I could have seen further into the future whilst I was at high school.

Those hormones really something.

[–]trpjnf39 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy

Kudos man. I had a similar story happen to me about a month ago.

A friend dated a girl about five years back who we’ll also call M. I moved away for college around that time (and discovered TRP shortly after), but while I was home for the summer I got to know her. My friend was an athlete in high school, ripped, but pretty beta. She was thick and cute, but nothing to special to look at. They broke up after about two years of dating.

I went home about a month ago and went out to the bar with the group of old friends who knew her. Who do we run into? I bet you can guess. In the time since she’s last seen me, I’ve put on a decent amount of muscle (was skinny-fat in high school). My friend who dated her, by comparison, has gained about eighty pounds, none of which was muscle.

He goes and talks to her, and a few minutes later I stop by to say hello. She saw me and after that it was like my friend wasn’t even there. Direct quote from her “what the fuck? You’re gorgeous”. She was in utter disbelief about how much I’d changed, jaw on the floor. She wasn’t the only person who noticed either. Three guys I played baseball with in high school happened to be at the same bar that night and complimented me on how I’d changed.

The point of this comment is obviously to brag, but the lesson to be learned is don’t get complacent. These guys who had it made in high school didn’t keep their shit together in college, and it shows. Meanwhile I did, and now I’m reaping the benefits.

[–]unn4med4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Keep it up brah. Will start hitting the gym soon as well, I'll be working with a personal trainer. Thanks for the inspiration

[–]themaratha0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How will you train during quarantine?

[–]unn4med0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I won’t (been sick with stomach issues). But for the rest of you calisthenics is really good. There are transformation videos on YouTube of what body workouts can do for you, and it’s nothing short it amazing.

Personally, I’m waiting for this to be over

[–]pbar31 points32 points  (8 children) | Copy

I am old enough to have seen this happen to a lot of women. Even the ones who don't pork up, still lose a lot of their looks. For the ones who have traded heavily on looks and not developed anything else, it is pretty rough.

Aside from that, there are a lot of women around now who grew up under the influence of feminism. Focused on career, either didn't have kids or didn't focus on them, didn't get married, or trashed their marriages to "find themselves".

As those women start to creep into middle age or older, they are slowly becoming horrified at just how badly they were fooled by the propaganda, and how badly they have fucked up. I try to stay focused on what's right and wrong in my own life, and not to enjoy the suffering of others too much, even if they've earned it. But sometimes it's hard not to.

To the young guys out there I would say, just work, and develop yourself, and be patient. Time is on your side, and it is very much not on women's side. The worm can turn in very surprising ways.

[–]Luck-6714 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

As another old guy, I concur . The wall is to our advantage and as an old guy who still is gaming and banging like no tommorow the MILF crowd bestowed upon me.....I can say that most HS or College hotties will in fact grow into overated pigs. This is as old as the hills and we have all been there.

Keep your shit, game and act together no matter what age you’re at. The best women are much, much more talented in bed and otherwise after some wall and life hits them and they maintain shape and motivation. Most often the cheerleaders grow into glorified bacon and the sleepers grow into talent. You’ll want to be there to pounce ....

[–]pbar11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I know a 50-yr-old yoga teacher who weighs about 102 pounds and is objectively more perfect than the girls I hung with when we were all 25...but obviously a lot more interesting in every way. She's not the only woman I know around that age group who is still physically amazing. They are out there, although with the obesity thing they are getting rare.

Not really the point of this post, but I've gotten back in touch with my HS friends after almost 50 years away...it is astonishing to see who got rich and who went to pieces, who is well-preserved and who is a degenerate. Not at all who I would have expected.

[–]unn4med3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

To the young guys out there I would say, just work, and develop yourself, and be patient. Time is on your side, and it is very much not on women's side. The worm can turn in very surprising ways.

Please do share about that HS reunion experience! Sounds interesting

[–]Buchwild-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

How old are we talking if you don't mind me asking, and do you play on pc?

[–]unn4med4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahaha you funny man. He meant gaming as in gaming women

[–]Luck-670 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you’re asking me Buch, the range has been from age 39 to 55 over my past 9 years of being reborn since my marriage. And yes, OLD, IRL all of the above. Win some lose some

[–]2Overkillengine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As those women start to creep into middle age or older, they are slowly becoming horrified at just how badly they were fooled by the propaganda, and how badly they have fucked up. I try to stay focused on what's right and wrong in my own life, and not to enjoy the suffering of others too much, even if they've earned it. But sometimes it's hard not to.

A key point to remember is don't be surprised when they try to use any sympathy you may feel for their plight as a weapon to exploit your relative success.

They did not get to where they were at by being good people after all.

[–]dbshne42 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bossing up and seeing people who never paid attention to you suddenly wanting to be a part of your life is one of the best feelings. Let’s go champ

[–]throaway4000s0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do you have a story of how said scenario applied to you?

[–]ugluk137 points38 points  (12 children) | Copy

This is why The Wall sub should be required viewing for adolescent men. Damn young hoes are vicious.

[–]RivenHalf6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Is this actually a thing lol looks like it's private

[–]weebmaster324 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's on the frequently visited subs on his profile.

[–]MisterSlippyFinger9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

I missed the word “sub” and thought you were talking about Pink Floyd’s The Wall movie at first. Honestly would be a valid statement too.

[–]Buchwild5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Check out both, Pink Floyd isn't half bad

[–]Greaterbird4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

In fact, they're at least half good

[–]HellSpeed5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

That sub is wild, but almost all of the pictures are famous people with their prime glamour shots in full airbrushed makeup vs these terrible candid pics. I'd like to see candid shot in prime vs candid shot post wall.

[–]ugluk12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can contribute your pics, they won't mind.

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[–]unn4med10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Hahaha "she's like a blue whale" dont kill me bro. Hard to say with certainty if she still would've been fat if you married her, since you would've had some input in the process.

Thanks for sharing!

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[–]unn4med1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hmmm. Perhaps you’re more experienced, but I think of men and women from a “that’s human nature” perspective. This is ultimately what controls us, our biology and makeup

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[–]unn4med0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I disagree with your underlying mindset regarding women. But it’s ok, because I believe you’re new to this sub (<2 years) and the anger is natural.

Like some mods said on here, this is the place to unleash your anger, not in real life. Hope this gets you to reconsider a few things

[–]edge_lord_super_171 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

How was the workload for you as an engineer?

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[–]edge_lord_super_170 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How was the work enviornment?

[–]primo_pastafarian37 points38 points  (1 child) | Copy

Girls in high school and early college will always be skinny and attractive, from the perspective of someone their own age. And of course, kids that age never think long-term.

If you wanna know how a girls' gonna look when she gets older, you gotta check out her mum. If the mum's hot, then the girl will probably stay hot after high school and college. Value ++.

Of course, if the girls' hot and the mom's a blimp, go ahead and have your fun anyway. Hot is hot, after all. Just make extra sure to wrap your tool, because that girl is one that you ESPECIALLY do not want to get anchored to via any accidents.

Final point. MGTOW aside, if you would like to get married some day, just make extra certain that it is SOME DAY, and not fresh out of high school or college. You'll regret all the missed opportunities and fun you could have had, if you don't explore unencumbered for several years.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Then again I've noticed that the hot girls I went to school with tended not to have hot kids. Mostly the kids were fat because mom is feckless and fed them fast food constantly.

[–]pkarlmann11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

200-300 lbs overweight

I just had to calculate this. 200 lbs is 90 kg - about my weight. Both my dogs had a weight of about 70 kg (Great Dane's, but mostly muscles). So we all together it was roughly 500 lbs. So she is more overweight then me AND my dogs weight combined by half. Wtf?

You, sir, didn't doge a bullet. A bullet's weight is much much lower then 200 lbs.

[–]urbancore7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like OP never had a chance. She wasn’t even aiming at him, let alone shooting. Can’t dodge a bullet she never shot.

I read this like, we ALL pine for the ones we missed out on, or dreamed of in high school/college.

This is more like an affirmation of OP’s lifelong choices. OP never locked into any chic, got his shit together, and now he calls the shots.

OP will be the better man for it. High school is not the place to find a partner.

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women. TM

[–]ValenDrethen11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's insane how many women that i knew in high school, are just massively failing at life right now lol how the tables have turned.

[–]tyrryt5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of the biggest shocks possible is searching through facebook a decade or two after graduation, seeing how time has demolished all the objects of your highschool fantasies.

[–]Sumfuc7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bless you for finding your own way. All the glory is to you & you alone. Enjoy your life on your terms & never let the “Great Enemy“ access to your great purpose.

[–]Robert_de_Saint_Loup16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just goes to show the fleeting nature of beauty. Looks doesn’t equal brains

[–]SpamFilterHatesMe57 points58 points  (7 children) | Copy

That way of thinking, like bitter beta, is still toxic for you. If someone's failure is making you happy and made your whole day your emotions are still depended on someone else, and probably in general. Which is childish.

You didn't have her when she was good. Because you sucked back then, and she rightfully rejected you. Be honest. There's no shame in it, it's alright, we've all been there.

But it's a problem if you suck now too. Regardless of your weight lol, which is not everything.

In some other universe she could have been even better today, and what, you would be devastated by that?

Edit: You should feel thankful for helping you, not "elated" because she failed. Love the women for what they are. And their true nature, which we know here.

[–]Zorrostrian10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t think that the way she turned out is what made me so happy. I actually felt a combination of pity and guilt for her. What put me in such a good mood was more so the reminder of the progress I’ve made since the last time I was friends with her. The disconnect between who I am now and my high school beta self is huge, and that makes me happy.

[–]Beginning-Ninja30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get where you're coming from with this, but I didnt read it as bitter-beta schadenfraude... just a guy proud at coming so far.

[–]30DaystoSolstice7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right. Was looking for this perspective. Op sounds in his late 30. It's like yeah, by then all W fell off, have kids etc. If Ms fell off in between HS and college while OP rose than it's a W for OP. But if OP is looking looking 20yr in the past for vindication than yikes. Just yikes.

[–]hotromeoforyou7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

She showed interest now . It means her worth is attached to her body and market value , not her thoughts and morals .

If she rejects him if she’s fat , it’s good . It means she rejected him for compatibility purposes etc .

She’s the shallow one . Also , she mistreated him so yeah , it’s okay to feel better when you win in life .

[–]MisterSlippyFinger7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like holding a grudge off of some shit that happened in high school as if we all weren’t a bunch of immature people in high school. Unless it’s your mortal enemy or something, taking delight in other people’s failures is a bit of a losers mentality.

[–]kkikuyu13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Be careful. Her IOIs just may be a catch and release. Basically, she may just want for you to show you want her so she can feel validated, then reject you all over again.

[–]Zorrostrian13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well I’m definitely not attracted to her anymore after seeing her again.

[–]BlackPhoenix015 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't you feel like Neo right now? Swinging your arms around as those bullets whizz right past you?

[–]krayono5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very true. All the hot girls I knew in high school are fugly now. I can’t believe that I used to have a crush on them back then.

[–]Smuggler-Tuek4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m elated for you. Don’t feel guilty. She’s a big girl (lol) and made her own damn decisions.

[–]D4rkr4in3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

same energy as this

[–]RealMcGonzo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've found most of the chicks I crushed on in my BP days, almost 90% of them. Exactly none of them I'd fuck today. Not even a P&D. In a way, it's another bitter pill. In another it is quite liberating to know that any chick might be hot ATM, but it's just that moment.

[–]mantis_2boggan2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This doesnt feel entirely true

[–]ZeppKfw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing's entirely true in the internet

[–]bonusfruit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women like that ultimately fulfilled their sexual imperatives so there's no need to feel guilty after her smv runs dry. She got her kids and multiple providers out of it

[–]killgaet2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

damn dude, you dodged a MASSIVE bullet

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP dodged a freaking Banzai Bill

[–]Zech4riah2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t know why I feel guilty for feeling this way, but I was fucking elated. It was a real “look how the tables have turned bitch” moment for me.

It depends. You are still in the anger phase if you have this mentality that "I have improved, now I can abuse girls and get my revenge". You just become a bitter douche if you continue on that path. If you felt something like that and you felt guilty because of it, it's good. It shows you are already trying to go forward and rise above revenge.

Way too many guys seem to be fueling their motivation for improvement with revenge fantasies.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feeling good about someone's demise is a bad quality as a human being. Regardless if she had rejected you.

[–]CrimsonSultan5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Can relate. I am not 30, but being 28 years old i feel i am old enough to say that women my age are already showing the first signs of decline

A girl i used to have a crush at back when i was a teen, i saw her walking to a dudes house i know frequently who is like 2 min away from me. I saw her and i thought "damn this bitch has gotten fat", Im kinda surprised this dude is into such women, but whatever. Dont think he will commit, just pump n dump but i digress.

So many single women who used to ride the cc hard will be released into the wild. I just feel sorry for the betas who are willing to take a damaged good for marriage, not knowing their true past.

[–]MisterSlippyFinger3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m 29 and I’m amused by how many women similar to my age on Tinder/Bumble look so past it. Gotta say though that some of them still look good and young, especially with the Latinas. I dated one briefly and she looked like she could pass for 21-22.

[–]jaySydney0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m amused by how many women similar to my age on Tinder/Bumble look so past it.

I'm amused at how women's list of demands increases as they age.. "must be this, must be that, must not want FWB or ONS.. oh, and by the way, have children living with me"

[–]tyrryt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

30 is tough for a western woman - if she's not married yet, she's either desperate to marry, or she's above-average on the psycho-meter. Either condition is toxic, it's better to stay in the 22-25 range.

[–]CrimsonSultan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

aye. just like with shipments, we don't accept damaged goods

[–]uwey3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man get better and will want to bring more man into the circle of man, to be a stronger and bigger community.

Women like to do opposite. They are real life monsters man used to fight.

Fuck her while remember she will fuck your life up if you slip, you being complacent, or you being stupid.

Don’t fuck down and always fuck “up” if you understand what I mean.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL don’t ever feel bad when karma runs its course brother!!! Just sing 🎵 It’s scaaaaaaaadenfrude! Making me feel glad that I’m not you! 🎵 You dodged a bullet plus a skank who took advantage of you is now worse off. I call that a win on its own!

[–]mtriad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"How the turntables." Scott, Michael

[–]RPOpenUp1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that you feel guilty is something truly beautifull.

You could have been bitter and resent her. But you feel guilty, because you had the chance to get better. and if we're all honest if TRP wouldn't be here, every women would be overweight, hitting the wall because our standars would be so low.

Feeling guilt here also means that you truly want the best for you and the people around you, which means you have outgronwn the easily toxic orbiter trap that a lot of young men live in nowadays.

Keep it up

[–]Fabulous-Craft1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Grats on dodging the bullet, but I don't get the elation that a girl you idealized is now a mess.

Wouldn't the better mindset be, "what a shame"? Or if she managed to stay a knock out, "good for her", without it affecting you either way?

The fact that you can indulge in petty revenge porn over some chick from 5-10 (more?) years ago is pretty BP.

[–]1RevolutionaryPea71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't feel good about how far she has fallen. It happens to all women and shouldn't bother you. You should only feel good about how far you have come. Are you fucking hot girls now?

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got to see the pic of a prominent feminist in my country and it looked like someone who smoked, used weed and hadn't bathed or combed their hair for a year... Her only saving grace was that she wasn't totally obese. That wasn't hitting just one wall - more like four walls. Can't believe it's people like this influencing popular opinion.

Ever noticed that virtually every one of these cases are totally unattractive, both inside and out? Why do they do this to themselves? I feel they carry a pattern of self loathing of themselves for being feminine.

[–]StoicPsychopath1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Obviously there needs to be a "revenge fantasy fulfilled" tag for these situations. ;)

Good for you on getting in better shape. Hope you are taking advantage of it to spin some high quality plates.

Use her as a lesson... All women you desire in the moment will eventually be less desirable. Maybe not as much as this one, but it is a great representation as to how sexual attractiveness is meaningless long term and should not be used as the basis of any sort of Disney-style "I'm going to marry this woman" fantasies.

[–]VoiceOfReason7773 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Never ever ever ever feel bad. A few girls in high school that I crushed on, never gave me the time of day. Then when they become a single mom and have a kid, they start to be nice to me when they notice I got my own place and I work for a respectable software company. They even ask me to come over to their house to "hang out". I always respond with "Oh I appreciate it, but I'm so busy with work etc"

It hurts them even more if you are able to find a decent lady and have your own kids and go on expensive trips with and show it all over facebook, Instagram etc. (Probably not that TRP, but good revenge)

[–]edge_lord_super_170 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Would you consider a job in tech valuble? Im exploring my options

[–]VoiceOfReason7770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At a young age yes, but it gets worst once you hit 50, so make sure you have an exit plan.

The job is demanding yet, the pay is not proportional to the level of caliber and stress you have to put into it. But then again, your mileage may vary.

[–]Fucking__Creep0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are they still hot as single moms?

[–]1jojojijo3333 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

BP post fueling losers revenge fantasy.

Her hitting the wall/being a bad quality woman doesn't excuse/explain your failure/rejection and isn't a metric of your improvement in life.

[–]Sickem_roy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Damn..that’s a lot of weight.

[–]Zorrostrian3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was obviously exaggerating a bit

[–]1meerita0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I didn't need to do that. I just visited very Facebook profile of my ex school girls and basically I was happy i didn't submit to anything.

[–]DeakinFrost0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is an ancient Chinese proverb about "the joy of sitting by the river and watching the bodies of your enemies float by..."

[–]surfsusa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I saw same thing happen in a similar fashion. It was at a High School reunion. This is almost a cliche and it probably happens all the time. The Head Cheerleader, who was a HB 9 and one of the most popular girls in the class in high school, hit the wall hard. She gained around 90 pounds and was round as a beach ball. Now of course you will get IOI's as she is starved for the attention she got effortlessly when she was young and Hot. Quite a few guys did not realize it at the time but it wasn't always there looks that kept them from success, it was their state of mind and their actions.

[–]krmaml0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In your scenario she became obese so you felt better. What if she was normal weight?

[–]Snajperista3130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Of course now she shows IOI's"

What's IOI?

Found out it stands for Indicator of Interest

[–]vrsatillx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah man, happy to read this.

[–]sorearm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. You have experienced the red pill moment.
... the wall is undefeated, it cannot be beaten. It is inevitable.

Your feelings are normal and you are having a good day!

[–]spider_13370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been having those little moments myself. Not specifically with girls that i orbited but with girls I wanted to fuck back in the day. Its crazy how most just let go

[–]CaucasianPanther0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She Useta beeeee so fine to meeeee now sheee's https://youtu.be/uAADnHODAsE

[–]AriaRz220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well no reason for guilt. Also, what i have in mind is nothing is personal with them. Like, if im rejected, ok. I move on and dont care anymore. Although i know perfectly how you feel when you were her orbitter. Tables changed, you earned your attractiveness, she lost it.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women can actually look good until their early 30s provided they take care of their bodies.

The problem is from the time they turn 18 they begin drinking like sailors, doing drugs, eating like pigs, tanning like crazy, etc.

The amount of girls my age (24) who think it's socially acceptable to binge drink friday and saturday night, plus brunch mimosas on sunday is actually absurd.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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