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[–]JimmysRevenge124 points125 points126 points 3 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
It's really funny, I remember in like 2013 or 2014 I posted on Facebook saying that gendered bathrooms made no sense because stalls provide all the privacy anyone could ever need and it was a waste of money to plumb separate bathrooms. BOTH sides of this argument lost their fucking minds and that was my entire intent.
[–]boundarychimpsALL THE COLORS55 points56 points57 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yep, the Internet would be far too boring if arguments were about solving problems rather than about making sure the other side loses.
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[–]SerpentCypher6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just triggered one by saying hating an entire gender is shit lol.
[–]Kellkur1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fuck you! /s
[–]boundarychimpsALL THE COLORS0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
^_^
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium38 points39 points40 points 3 years ago* (27 children) | Copy Link
I know it’s purge week, but serious topic, I was a mechanical engineer and for a while had a job in code compliance for commercial buildings. I’m not the first to suggest they blew the call when they wrote ada regulations. It’s not that gendered bathrooms make no sense, but for new buildings they really should have forgotten the ada compliant gendered bathrooms and required a single, mixed gendered ada compliant bathroom like the one pictured above, known as “Family” restrooms in addition to gendered bathrooms.
Many handicapped people have caretakers of the other gender and lots of people in wheel chairs need assistance in going to the toilet. Plus, it makes it easier for fathers to help their young daughters. Its pretty easy to take a young boy into the women’s room, but urinals make it very awkward to take your 4 year old daughter into the men’s room with you. Third advantage? Trans people can shut up and pee already.
edit if you notice the locks, this gender neutral bathroom is one of these family bathrooms and can be locked. They typically are a single room with no dividers and make it easy to wash up after.....Handicapped people often need to wash more than their hands
[–]JimmysRevenge8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I over simplified the point I was making back in 2013/4 in this comment. But those are the exact sorts of things I was pointing out.
I will say though that right now urinals make more sense than ever before. As a guy you get to take advantage of the fact that you don't really need to touch anything except your own clothes and own body to pee.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I get it. And it’s all about who we can make mad and trigger and has nothing to do with trying to make anything betterI’m getting off Reddit
[–]JimmysRevenge7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
No, it's about illustrating why when you're easily triggered you are actively in the way of solutions you claim to care about.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm, interesting, because I’ve had all sorts of conversations with people in all sorts of contexts, professional and casual, and never really had people on “either side”, (whatever that is)
“lose their mind”
I would say that your contention that it would save on plumbing is somewhat true, especially in smaller building with light occupancy and especially for lavatories. The default for small buildings ends up at one per gendered bathroom, where one lavatory is sufficient for several water closets depending on occupancy type. It could also be argued that it would provide more flexibility and eliminate potty parity laws. In most large buildings it becomes much less important and I doubt it would really reduce overall fixture requirements. The common chase wall between back to back fixtures makes for some pretty efficient plumbing.
But again, your contention that a stall is all that is needed for privacy is not true for the handicapped, unless that stall is large enough for the handicapped person, the caretaker, the wheelchair, a lavatory and room to move around. Basically, that handicapped restroom is best served by a separate room
[–]JimmysRevenge1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
As I said to another commenter, both sides appealed to the "predatory nature" of men.
Both sides were overly concerned with the comfort of groups. Whether that be concerned about women having to be in a bathroom with men, or children of the opposite sex being in the room with opposite sex adults. Or, on the other side, with the idea that if trans and nonbinary folks don't have their own room then we're "erasing them".
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You seem overly preoccupied by “sides“ though, certainly not plumbing. Or saving money. It’s about illustrating why when you're actively triggering people you are actively in the way of solutions you claim to care about.
You see, it’s not really that hard to discuss issues, solve problems and make things better for everyone by addressing real life concerns without trying to trigger anyone. Or you can just be an asshole and think you are so fucking superior to everyone by intentionally making people angry, trying to separate them into tribes, and then sitting back and watching how stupid they are. 🍿 🔥 Just so you can confirm to yourself how superior you are, we will discuss these non issues ad infinitum. But I’m sure you’re very smart. Bravo sir, well done.
[–]JimmysRevenge1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
I admitted fully that my entire intent was to point out how people more worried about protecting their side are not at all interested in actually solving problems. Yes, that was the entire idea behind the post. I knew that both sides would freak out rather than see the possibility for nuanced discussion. The whole idea was to illustrate this by forcing them both to oppose me and see that neither were open to even entertaining the possibility that there could be a solution that helps both sides.
Why is it my fault that these people are triggered? I didn't make it impossible to have an actual discussion. I didn't say anything provocative. I said "Wouldn't it make the most sense to just have one bathroom?" I pointed out that there was a potential actual solution to both problems and my bet was that neither would want to actually discuss it. I was right.
The reason I started doing this around that time (for the record, I do not do that anymore) is that every time I actually tried to have a nuanced conversation, it was drowned out in this EXACT outrage. So why not pit the outrage against itself on both sides to get it closer to it's end? I have since decided that it's pointless and better to leave these people to their cognitive dissonance and see if they don't figure it out themselves. But you HAVE to admit how funny it is how EASY it is to trigger these people. And like I said, at the time, that was more impactful than every single attempt I had to actually have a conversation about any topic that required nuance.
And also, isn't the spirit of my 6 or 7 year old post the same as the spirit of the purge here? We all have that energy and it starts to kill us after a while. So you gotta let it out sometimes.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
But you HAVE to admit how funny it is how EASY it is to trigger these people.
I’ve actually been in meetings where these issues were discussed calmly, and I have said, I don’t find it hard to discuss these issues without people “losing their minds” at all. As far as “these people” who are so easily triggered, they actually have several overlapping interests that can easily be highlighted, instead of further dividing them for your own amusement.
Trans people do exist, lord knows I wouldn’t know how to get a great brow without my old neighbor. But somehow their toilet needs seem extremely pressing in rural North Carolina, not the Castro or French Quarter. As far as male sexuality being predatory goes, well it is. Everyone except the most extreme man hating can agree that namalt, without dismissing what most people recognize as a fact.
Jordan Peterson: “Fundamentally are you a predator, and so what I see happening in the in the feminist disciplines like gender studies is the politicization of that accusation, and the accusation is to prove to me that you’re not predator-like in the fundamental element of your masculinity. Not only historically but now, because the cost of you being a predator is too high. Now I feel that that’s inappropriate, I think that’s what’s driving the demolition of the idea of presumption of innocence, for example. We’ll start with presumption of guilt and you’ll have prove to me that you’re innocent. I think the problem with that isn’t that there are no predatory men, because there are plenty of predatory men. The problem is that the courageous way to deal with the problem of the predator, is to offer a hand in courageous trust and to invite forward a partner from the monster.”
It seems to me that it’s actually pretty dumb not to acknowledge that we have two real problems, chicks with dicks need to pee and some dude is eventually going to stick a cell phone under the stalls to try to get a picture of ladies coochies.
You know I DON’T have to admit how “funny” it is that there are different, legitimate concerns and can actually appreciate both concerns. I think both these concerns are based in fact, although you are going to find more pervs than trans people in rural North Carolina.
Do people overreact? Sure, when some smug asshole goads them on. Like I’ve said, I’ve been able to discuss this pretty calmly and find consensus. Go figure. I think people are capable of listening to plenty of nuance when you’re not blowing dog whistles in their ears. I think most people are a lot smarter than you give them credit for.
But I guess actually getting people to talk to each other isn’t fun and doesn’t give you that little ego boost of proving how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I see you edited your post. The spirit of the purge here is between groups and factions that have a prior online relationship where we get to actually come together with some humor to hopefully laugh at ourselves and others. If I tell someone they are gay as fuck, or tell some dude he is a bitch with a big bleeding vagina, it’s (hopefully) done in jest. Yeah, sometimes huge amounts of vitriol get unleashed in ways that aren’t always healthy and sometimes the veil is lifted on ugly truths. But it’s a bit different than just shouting incel or feminazi when presented with a serious topic.
But what you are doing is just playing “let’s you and him fight” without letting people in on the joke, and to your mind, the jokes always on them for falling for it.
[–]MC_PurpPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s a great idea.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. It’s hard and expensive to retrofit an old building, but not that expensive to add to a new building. Handicapped people have all sorts of issues that a grab bar and a raised toilet seat just don’t address. They often need assistance and privacy to clean up too.
[–]Jaktenba-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
but urinals make it very awkward to take your 4 year old daughter into the men’s room with you.
Why? Because you're too much of a pussy to explain that men and women are different? Newsflash, most guys ain't waving their dicks around, and even if she does see one it won't scar her.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sure. Why put a door on the bathroom at all? In fact, why not just make the whole thing an open air affair? Talk about saving money!
https://images.app.goo.gl/LiHqrsvcebCCT1zU7
[–]rathyAro1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Unless there are hygiene issues involved, I'm fine with making it an "open affair".
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jeezus, even my cat likes privacy. And in prison (at least the only one I ever worked on), you got a little half wall. You do you hoss. Just don’t do it in front of me.
[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's hardly the norm, but I used to work in a retail establishment where the employee lockers were in the restrooms. Those same restrooms were available for customer use (with a key obtained at the registers).
I was in there once when a father brought his young daughter in for a pee. Luckily I wasn't changing my pants, or someone might have ended up on a list.
[–]Jaktenba0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You had to change your pants to work retail? X!
[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't have to, but guys would bike to work in shorts and change there.
[–]AdaTennysonAll the Pills Woman9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A soft play place opened up near me and they did this, just one giant bathroom for everyone.
It makes so much more sense, especially if you have kids; if you care about protecting children maybe let their opposite sex parent go into the bathroom with them rather than just sending them in alone, right?
[–]GreenSatyr🟢3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wait, which side isn't okay with that? I thought one side wanted two gender bathrooms and the other side wanted bathrooms to just be for everyone?
[–]JimmysRevenge1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, the desire was originally for a third bathroom. Cause trans and nonbinary people EXIST DAMMIT! And they need a place too, and not having something specifically for those people ERASES THEM.
Both sides of that argument also appealed to a supposedly predatory nature of males.
[–]Suck-Less3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just remove all mirrors, and I’m 100% in sync with genderless bathrooms. But if I have to wait on some princess touching up her makeup, I’m gonna have issues.
[–]rn78891 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Your argument is wrong only because you believe that stalls provide adequate privacy...In consistently blown away at how shitty our bathroom situation is. How does the wall not go to the floor? Why can you see through the crack of the door? It is simply not adequate.
[–]Willow-girlNot much to start with and worse for the wear3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does the wall not go to the floor? Why can you see through the crack of the door?
Probably to discourage people from having sex in them.
Humans are kinda gross ...
[–]Kellkur1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does the wall not go to the floor?
Why should it?
Why can you see through the crack of the door?
If you can more than likely its because the doors are old or it was installed poorly.
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The wall doesn’t go to the floor because there are floor drains which facilitate cleaning. Granted, the whole stall could provide more privacy, but in order to be hosed out and occasionally steam cleaned you need some gap. You won’t notice but the whole floor typically slopes to a drain
[–]neubsWizard1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
there should only be single occupant restrooms with locking doors. You walk down a long hall with nothing but doors to restrooms.
Everyone would love that except the janitors and the building owners. It would not be cheap
[–]neubsWizard1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It could be like on Tool Time when they had the Man's Bathroom and it had a car wash thing in it so it is self-cleaning
[–]Nodoxxintoxinmy vag isn’t an aquarium0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, good idea, but also....not cheap!
[–]ayeemmaperson0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see the opposite posted in feminist subs, and articles written where men's bathrooms were the only ones unchanged.
[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
O man yes. I grew up in a hippy town and they’d pretty much never bothered TO segregate changing areas. There were stalls if people wanted privacy, but most changing areas, especially in ski lodge locker rooms, were primarily open and most people just changed around each other.
[–]SaintERosa0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it helps to be truly seperate. It avoids needless social issues that the socially disabled cannot do.
[–]SlashCo8014 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine."
[–]mangolover9750 points51 points52 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
There could be a male bathroom as well? My university has a unisex stall in one of the library buildings but they also have bathrooms for male only and female only.
[–]ayeayefitlikeBlueish-Purple Pill Woman5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mine too - each floor has a unisex toilet block and a single sex one, with the single sex ones alternating by floor. You could easily take a phot like this one one floor and the opposite one up or down.
[–]stoicmanchild13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
this is so wrong.
what about all the other genders?!
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I get the joke, libtard mad, but wouldnt they just use the unisex bathroom?
[–]stoicmanchild0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is the ONLY acceptable bathroom sign
https://paisleyparkprince.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/love-symbol.png
[–]bionix906 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What other genders?
[–]mangolover976 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I know right?!! Outrageous we should make a petition and sue them for being racist against all the other 359 genders1!11!
[–]moodyblues891 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You mean 360 Dragons count too!
[–]mangolover973 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course dragon rights matter too! And I think they prefer to be called reptilian pyrophiliacs these days. We should respect their identity.
[–]slavicslothe1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Power level 4000
[–]istira_balegina63 points64 points65 points 3 years ago (111 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of the Harvard coed orgs protest where single sex orgs were banned and the women stormed the quad demanding single sex spaces for women but not for men because girl power.
[–]Barneysparky10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of when bathrooms became unisex and a bunch of uptight idiots predicted a rash of men dressing like ladies to molest their daughters.
Reminds me of the whining men did when municipalities business clubs had to open the doors to women. Sky didn't fall.
[–]Newspaupert17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
https://www.wthr.com/article/clark-county-man-arrested-sexually-assault-woman-walmart-bathroom
https://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF16F27.pdf
Reminds me of many times that males did in fact use unisex/transgender bathroom rules to molest women and girls.
[–]smolboi69420-57im bored8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That argument is a little flawed considering all the little boys in boys bathrooms that would/are molested either way
[–]Newspaupert-2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since when do little boys go to the men’s bathroom unattended regularly? Not to mention there are cases of young boys being assaulted by males in bathrooms as well. What’s your point
[–]Jaktenba4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow a whole 23 incidents over a 20 year period.
[–]Barneysparky3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Does that look like a transgendered person to you or a meth addict who is going to do crazy no matter where he is?
[–]Newspaupert18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
If you read the article he did what many women said deranged males would do. He used the “transgender bathroom” excuse as to why he was in the bathroom. And just how do you know he’s not transgender? Because he doesn’t look like a woman? That would be considered transphobic.
[–]Barneysparky5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Stop being obtuse.
Unisex bathrooms are here. They are no big deal.
[–]Newspaupert0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Then you should have no issue with this picture, since you believe males sharing their bathrooms is no big deal.
[–]Jaktenba2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men already had to share spaces, women constantly go into the men's room whenever they feel like. Kind of funny when you think about it since that kind of destroys the whole argument in not letting transwomen into the female bathrooms in case some guy just pretends to be trans.
The problem here is the fact that women still get to keep their own spaces, while eliminating male-only spaces.
[–]Newspaupert1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Males had to share what spaces exactly? Jobs and schools that they refused to allow women to do while forcing them into domestic slavery? Not the same as forcing women to take their pants off in a bathroom full of dicks. Also I’m arguing against unisex bathrooms so try to keep your hatred of women tucked away while you try to process the fact that unisex bathrooms are not comfortable for either sex.
[–]immibis1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
And he was arrested for it, so that's not what the anti-transgenderists said would happen.
[–]Newspaupert15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Care to give me a citation? The anti rape in bathroom people said they don’t want women to get raped/abused or otherwise molested in bathrooms with the excuse being “I’m trans because I said so and that means I belong in there” I have never heard of what you’re referring to, are you upset that he was arrested? Last I checked molesters are typically arrested, never heard of that being an issue.
[–]immibis-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
They could already do that if they wanted to, so that's not new. The new part is that the anti-rape-in-bathroom-people thought the police wouldn't arrest the guy because he said he was transgender.
[–]Newspaupert8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
They said that males would use the “I’m transgender” excuse to get into spaces where women and children are vulnerable as that happens quite often. I.E priests, teachers, social workers are professions abusers often pick to target vulnerable victims. Never have I seen anyone say a rapist or molester will get away with it because they said they’re trans. And though creeps could still do it if they wanted to, before people could stop them from entering the women’s rest room in the first place. NOW people are afraid of getting sued and doxxed for doing so. Also still no citation, definitely must be trolling.
[–]immibis6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You don't need an excuse to walk into a woman's bathroom as a man; you can just do it. They don't have gender-sensitive facial scanners. The real question is what happens after you walk in.
[–]istira_balegina5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like someone missed analogy day at school.
[–]insultin_crayon-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, the analogy is pretty much on point.
[–]SimpleEngineer3Somewhat Blueish1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What actually sounds alluring about molesting people in a room that's related to human waste and where people come and go all the time so you don't have a lot of privacy?
[–]PrestigiousRespond83 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're not talking about sane people, though. We're talking about people with severe delusions who, instead of being treated, are having their delusions fed and validated by a sick society.
[–]Barneysparky-2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems to be in the mind of people who freak out about such benign things. Who knows.
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[–]istira_balegina24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (77 children) | Copy Link
Naah, but I do feel that white people should have whites only trains in NYC because you know, black people made them unsafe. Gotta do something about those black people.
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[–]feraxilBe Excellent to Each Other15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (69 children) | Copy Link
Reported statistics.
If you get to claim non-reported incidents in your claims about violence against women by men, then we get to do the same.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Females have lower arrest rates than males for virtually all crime categories except prostitution. This is true in all countries for which data are available. It is true for all racial and ethnic groups, and for every historical period. In the United States, women constitute less than 20 percent of arrests for most crime categories. https://law.jrank.org/pages/1250/Gender-Crime-Differences-between-male-female-offending-patterns.htmlMen were considered the accused in 81% of cases of violent victimization against women, and in 79% of cases of violent victimization against males; whereas females accounted for 10% of victimizations against females and 10% against males. These findings are supported by results from other studies in the United States, where the majority of perpetrators that came to the attention of the criminal justice system were men (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2006; Heimer and Lauritsen, 2008; U.S. Department of Justice, 2009).
...Statistics have been consistent in reporting that men commit more criminal acts than women. Self-reported delinquent acts are also higher for men than women across many different actions.[3] Burton, et al. (1998) found that low levels of self control are associated with criminal activity.[4] Many professionals have offered explanations for this sex difference. Some differing explanations include men's evolutionary tendency toward risk and violent behavior, sex differences in activity, social support, and gender inequality. According to the 2015 International Encyclopedia of the Social sex differences in aggression is one of the most robust and oldest findings in psychology.[23]Past meta-analyses in the encyclopedia found males regardless of age engaged in more physical and verbal aggression while small effect for females engaging in more indirect aggression such as rumor spreading or gossiping.[23] It also found males tend to engage in more unprovoked aggression at higher frequency than females.[23] This replicated another 2007 meta-analysis of 148 studies in the journal Child Development which found greater male aggression in childhood and adolescence.[24] This analysis also conforms with the Oxford Handbook of Evolutionary Psychology which reviewed past analysis and found greater male use in verbal and physical aggression with the difference being greater in the physical type.[25] A meta-analysis of 122 studies published in the journal of Aggressive Behavior found males are more likely to cyberbully than females.[26] Difference also showed that females reported more cyberbullying behavior during mid-adolescence while males showed more cyberbullying behavior at late adolescence.[26]
...Male offenders for all homicides are 88.8%. Women: 11.2%.
In instances where one intimate partner murders another, males commit 65.5% of these homicides, women: 29.2%. When children are the victims, it's men who murdered them 61.8% of the time, women: 38.2%. When elderly victims are killed, men commit 93.5% of these crimes- women: 6.5%. In cases of serial killing (multiple victims): men are the offenders 93.5% of the time, women: 6.5%. In instances where two or more offenders work together to commit a homicide men are the offenders 91.6% of the time, women: 8.4%.
[–]PrestigiousRespond89 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Females have lower arrest rates than males for virtually all crime categories except prostitution.
They also get sentenced so much lighter for crimes that the gender sentencing gap makes the racial sentencing gap look nonexistent. Thus the arrest rates for women are just as (if not more) likely to represent the "women are wonderful" effect than any reduced rate of criminality.
[–]Newspaupert0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Citation Needed Last I checked women teachers who are in a statutory rape trial for having affairs with their students are given much harsher sentences than males who violently rape toddlers.
https://www.insideedition.com/brittany-zamora-sentenced-20-years-having-sex-13-year-old-student-54430
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-06/man-in-tennant-creek-sentenced-rape-of-toddler/12033136
[–]CraptainToad8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop using individual cases to try and prove a trend
[–]PrestigiousRespond86 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Here's Huffpo with a report on a study showing this.
[–]Newspaupert-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The source you cited, which I’m certain you have not read as a woman wrote it, is a case study that is about petty crimes first of all. Second of all it’s literally saying this is skewed because of the amount of black and minority males arrested. It even says verbatim that white males are not even to worry about these statistics. Thirdly, if white male prosecutors think black males are more threatening than women of course they will be processed differently through the system when they commit petty theft and are arrested for bar fights.
This study admits males commit the lions share of violent and sexual crimes yet it doesn’t even take into account that women and men sentenced for similar crimes prosecute women to in a much harsher standard to prove a point because of how rare it really is. Such as women who fight back their known domestic abusers getting more time in prison than the abusers got in jail. It doesn’t even take into account the crimes women commit in self defense, it’s even said there she didn’t look into it because she wasn’t checking for violent stats. Lastly, black males are still 4 times more likely to commit violent domestic acts against their women. To think women will be seen by prosecutors as contentious with them as a demographic is laughable.
Poor white males on the other hand are just as likely as black males to commit the same amount of crimes. Yet they are not seen more favorably than women in prosecutors eyes, of course a majority of white males are not living in the same financial conditions but the ones that do are not known to be targeted more-so than their woman counterparts.
Here are quotes from your own source.
"To reduce common support concerns, offense categories that were over 95% male were dropped: weapons, sex and pornography, conservation, and family offenses"
"Nonetheless, there are some easily imaginable differences between male and female cases that might not be observed. For instance, men might well commit violent crimes with greater force, a difference not fully captured by the arrest code (beyond the labeling of some assaults as “aggravated”). There are fewer obvious potential differences in property, regulatory, or drug offenses, but perhaps women might commit smaller-scale offenses. Scale is captured to some degree by the arrest offense codes (for instance, pickpocketing versus vehicle theft), but not entirely—for instance, wire fraud could be in any amount. Findings of fact on loss value appear capable of explaining up to 20% of the otherwise-unexplained gap in non-drug crimes (Table 7)."
“While virtually nobody in the sample was convicted of any immigration, sex/pornography, family, or conservation offenses, overlap between weapons cases and other cases is more common: about 6% of the sample was convicted of a weapons charge. The presence of weapons in violent crimes is often captured by the arrest code, and their presence in any kind of case is often captured by the police-notes-based description field that I use in robustness checks."
“In order to achieve better overlap between the male and female samples, I also excluded several case categories in which the arrestees were over 95% male: sex and pornography-related offenses (except for prostitution), weapons offenses, conservation offenses (mainly illegal hunting and fishing), and family offenses. The remaining case types were property and fraud offenses, regulatory offenses (excluding those mentioned above), non-sexual violent crimes, and drug offenses."
[–]Jaktenba2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You do realize that you are comparing cases from two different countries, right? u/CraptainToad's point would still stand if the crimes were committed in the same country, but it's even worse to take two different countries and pretend it's indicative of anything.
[–]Newspaupert0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So every country doesn’t have males and women in it?
[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You are an insufferable cunt. Two clickbait stories do not a trend make.
Women are less likely to be charged with a crime than a man given the same facts, less likely to be convicted, and more likely to get a lesser charge. In the exceedingly rare cases where a woman actually gets convicted of first- or second-degree sexual assault, the circumstances of the case are probably so horrific that they get sentenced to the maximum under sentencing guidelines.
"Last I checked" is a rhetorical device for morons.
[–]Newspaupert-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Only retards even use the word rhetorical when they want to sound like they did something. Just because you lack of the proper amount of testosterone doesn’t make you a more educated male capable of dismissing actual studies with your big man brain and nothing else. Any stats to back up your bs claims? Begone thot
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bull$hit.
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[–]feraxilBe Excellent to Each Other6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
It is not pretending to state that women are more violent than men. Look at lesbian dv stats. The problem is that men are expected to just take the violence or face ridicule. Women also manipulate the men around them into violence, which makes them the defacto source of violence.
Women, from day one, have proven to be the evil, callous, violent sex. The fact that they aren't as PROFICIENT as men who are called to violence does not negate this. There is a reason women have been subjugated and controlled throughout history, and will return to such a state in the future. Every once in a while empires forget the lessons of the past, and fall, to be replaced by those that remember to put women in their correct place.
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[–]xanacop9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Your misandry is also showing.
Man, I've never wanted to downvote someone so badly in this sub before. I'm sorry you feel that way but I hope you know, your perspective is in fact causing more of a divide between sexes, not healing it.
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[–]SlashCo806 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I’ve never seen so much made up crap before. The world would break without women. Men have weak wills, paper thin impulse control, and are greedy, violent, selfish, short sighted war-mongers. It’s such bullshit to claim that “women would be worse if they were strong enough to subjugate men...” You say that because we’ll never know for sure, so you can pretend but to do so you have to ignore every trend and tendency this world has shown. Men start wars. Men rape, steal, destroy. Women heal, contribute, and nurture societies
Say it, sister! Just look at all those great female scientists, inventors, heads of state, philosophers and builders throughout the ages who created civilization! Oh, wait...
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[–]feraxilBe Excellent to Each Other4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Careful, your misandry is showing.
[–]CloacaDiddler2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
If men can comfortably talk about how much they hate and want to rape women and make them servants, I certainly do not care about holding my tongue for saying men cause wars and most of today’s crime.
[–]skylarkeleven-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
as if women don’t also rape, steal, and destroy
[+]xanacop-8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
/u/CloacaDiddler is right. You are a misogynist. And I do feel for any women in your life (if there are any) if that's truly how you feel about them.
[–]feraxilBe Excellent to Each Other5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok, misandrist.
[–]xanacop-5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dang, I've been called both a misogynist and misandrist. Which am I?!??!?! Or am I both?!?! Or is it that I can see faults in people's sexist arguments so they label me as such.
[–]LeanLoner5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
By all statistics, men are the most dangerous demographic regardless of color or nationality
Stats only measure what the most dangerous men do, not if men are dangerous. Stats also don't take into account positive risk-taking behaviour of men like cops, firemen, soldiers.
Very rarely are men who are true heroes talked about. Shavarsh jumped in cold a river and saved a full bus of random of people at the cost of his own health. He could've easily died. How many women would do the same?
[–]GrapeCulture696 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And by all statistics, black people are the most dangerous racial demographic. Would you then be in support of non-black spaces as safe spaces for other races?
[–]skylarkeleven0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
check out How to Lie With Statistics!
[–]istira_balegina8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Actually you're wrong, its black men who are the most dangerous demographic, not "men".
But even so, it doesnt make you any less racist or sexist. Principles of racism and sexism exist entirely independent of statistics. It's not like if black people committed more murders then black people would be rightfully banned from NYC trains. But that's what you're implying.
[–]skylarkeleven1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
52% of serial killers are white.
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pathetic. It would be better to have a stronger law enforcement presence to bust men who do this shit, instead of women-only trains.
Sorry to bust your feminist balls but equality is equality, it doesn't mean different treatment for women vs men.
[–]Zippo-Cat1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
but not mad at the fact that men made them so unsafe in a unisex train
Source?
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[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That story proves that female-only train cars exist, not that they are necessary. The existence of such trains was never in question, only your unsourced claim that men made women so unsafe that they needed a single-sex train car.
[–]Zippo-Cat-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, it's really easy to Google some random shitty article that is not a proof for anything.
[–]xanacop25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
This reminds me of this recently:
https://old.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/gc854x/judge_dismisses_us_womens_national_soccer_teams/fpa3r6c/
Did people not read Animal Farm? Stop using equality to get yourself even more ahead.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others
[–]cal16293 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hell yeah. Only valuable book I was forced to read in school.
[–]HollowLegMonk0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are two separate creatures.
But yeah what I find crazy is that the US Women’s Soccer Team made more money compared to the overall revenue generated than the men did so their argument is ridiculous. That’s like saying that LeBron James should make the same amount of money as Jeremy Lin in the name of equality. Give me a break that’s not how capitalism works.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
all of the "gender neutral" washrooms I have seen were formally women's and the men's is unchanged?
[–]ugglee_exe2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
literally the case in every public bathroom i’ve seen in the uk
[–]smolboi69420-57im bored-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve never ever seen that but maybe 🤷♀️ I have not been to to many places
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that concept of "Equality" escaped to us, mortal men.
I wish a woman would womanxplain it to me.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
thats funny because its largely been women's bathrooms being converted into gender neutral spaces from what ive seen
[–]CarosWolf0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That would be bad too
[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit. Never happened, and never will.
Didn't you already quit Reddit once this week? Take another day off and come back as u/kandyapples3. Maybe that account will have something to say that isn't complete horseshit.
[–]MerryVegetableGardenPost-TRP18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is the single most accurate depiction of feminism.
[–]PrestigiousRespond81 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's why they have to put so much effort into pushing the "it's about equality" lie. Societal-level gaslighting is hard, but if they don't do it they'll find their support vanish in an instant.
[–]HollowLegMonk1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gender equality and Feminism are two separate things. One is a societal goal and the other is a radical ideology cult not based on fact or an objective view on reality.
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[–]ChadThundagaCockBorderline Personality Wrangler1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Took me a few seconds to get it because I'm stoned, but yeah that's totally feminism.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
they should both be for men/women if equality is correct.
that representation in the pic is female supremacy.
[–]bsv1030 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s the point.
[–]Soupallnatural2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How is this a debate? This isn’t even the function of the sub
Purge mutha fucka!
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nice strawman. 2/10
[–]VoteLobsterFlying Purple Eco-Fascist16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Easily 90% of posts on this sub are strawmen, lmao.
[–]lioninapartydress1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You get a purge week to post ANYTHING you want, and immediately you resort to this? This isn’t even a solid argument for anything, and we can’t even comment on the legitimacy of the image because there’s no source. I knew this sub would become cringe, but this is just embarrassing
[–]DisgruntledReddit007[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Shut up femcel
[–]lioninapartydress-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You noticed me!!! 😍❤️
[–]Physiologist21Cynic0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
shaaaaadup
[–]therobincrow1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This meme is cringe and out of touch
[–]SimpleEngineer3Somewhat Blueish0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
As a man, I can't say I would care all that much.
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[–]SimpleEngineer3Somewhat Blueish5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now that you say it...
[–]AdaTennysonAll the Pills Woman2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women spend a lot more time on the toilet because a) they have to wipe for a wee and b) they have periods. Basically they have more bathroom business to do. Not because they're talking to each other whilst pooping.
Trust me, no one is talking whilst pooping and getting so distracted it takes longer, that's gross and weird.
[–]Zippo-Cat17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Okay SimpEngineer
[–]SimpleEngineer3Somewhat Blueish7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don’t hate on me just because you have paruresis.
[–]abaxeron✴️Indian Programmer6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Wait until you have a shitty emergency, and all the seats are covered in blood.
[–]ehbeebe2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Piss, not blood. Ftfy
[–]SimpleEngineer3Somewhat Blueish2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yikes, is women’s bathrooms being even worse than men’s a thing? I’ve never done Urban Exploration: Bathroom Edition. One time at an airport I thought I had, but it turned out it was the woman who made the mistake.
yep. 4 years of janitorial in college and god, the women’s was always worse.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
Men are taught not to care. Women are taught to complain about everything
[–]Newspaupert5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The irony to write this on a thread of a male complaining about feminism because there’s a unisex bathroom in place of a male bathroom.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not complaining. Mocking.
[–]Newspaupert3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So you admit when males do this they’re simply mocking and just hate feminism so they use their “need for equality” to deflect from issues women actually face. Such as being molested/assaulted in bathrooms they share with males. Thanks for clarifying
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you stopped going in gross 7-11 bathrooms that wouldn’t happen honey
[–]Newspaupert2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ll keep that in mind sweet cheeks
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Statistics have been consistent in reporting that men commit more criminal acts than women. Self-reported delinquent acts are also higher for men than women across many different actions.[3] Burton, et al. (1998) found that low levels of self control are associated with criminal activity.[4] Many professionals have offered explanations for this sex difference. Some differing explanations include men's evolutionary tendency toward risk and violent behavior, sex differences in activity, social support, and gender inequality. According to the 2015 International Encyclopedia of the Social sex differences in aggression is one of the most robust and oldest findings in psychology.[23]Past meta-analyses in the encyclopedia found males regardless of age engaged in more physical and verbal aggression while small effect for females engaging in more indirect aggression such as rumor spreading or gossiping.[23] It also found males tend to engage in more unprovoked aggression at higher frequency than females.[23] This replicated another 2007 meta-analysis of 148 studies in the journal Child Development which found greater male aggression in childhood and adolescence.[24] This analysis also conforms with the Oxford Handbook of Evolutionary Psychology which reviewed past analysis and found greater male use in verbal and physical aggression with the difference being greater in the physical type.[25] A meta-analysis of 122 studies published in the journal of Aggressive Behavior found males are more likely to cyberbully than females.[26] Difference also showed that females reported more cyberbullying behavior during mid-adolescence while males showed more cyberbullying behavior at late adolescence.[26]
....In nearly all these incidents of sexual violence against women, the accused perpetrator was male (99%) (Sinha, 2013; Brennan & Taylor-Butts, 2008). This over-representation of males as perpetrators of sexual violence is consistent with patterns in violent offending, but is more prevalent in sexual crimes compared to other violent crimes against women (where 82% of perpetrators are male) (Sinha, 2013). The gender breakdown of perpetrators is slightly different in the GSS, as 87% of perpetrators against both female and male victims are reported to be male. Nevertheless, rates of sexual offending were highest among persons aged 12 to 17 (90 per 100,000 population), followed by 18 to 34 year olds (55 per 100,000 population) and 35 to 44 year olds (42 per 100,000 population) (Brennan & Taylor-Butts, 2008).
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Let me guess... woman?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Men were considered the accused in 81% of cases of violent victimization against women, and in 79% of cases of violent victimization against males; whereas females accounted for 10% of victimizations against females and 10% against males. These findings are supported by results from other studies in the United States, where the majority of perpetrators that came to the attention of the criminal justice system were men (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2006; Heimer and Lauritsen, 2008; U.S. Department of Justice, 2009).....Females have lower arrest rates than males for virtually all crime categories except prostitution. This is true in all countries for which data are available. It is true for all racial and ethnic groups, and for every historical period. In the United States, women constitute less than 20 percent of arrests for most crime categories. https://law.jrank.org/pages/1250/Gender-Crime-Differences-between-male-female-offending-patterns.html
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Following your logic, should black people (who are more likely to involved in crimes than whites) be subject to different rules too?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
men should pay a crime tax & have curfews. ALL men.
Who's going to enforce that ridiculous edict? Women? Good fucking luck with that, you dumb cunt. Who's going to keep civilization going so you can keep saying stupid shit on the internet?
Just give us a reason, and you'll all be back barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen in a day and a half, tops. You have rights because men pioneered the idea of human rights, made it happen, and let you have some of that action. Never forget that.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Should black men pay more though?
this is an extreme hot take if i ever did hear one
When physical aggression is the subject of inquiry, studies consistently find that as many women self-report perpetrating this behavior as do men; some studies find a higher prevalence of physical aggression committed by women (for a review see Archer, 2000). For example, the National Family Violence Survey (Straus & Gelles, 1990), a nationally representative study of 6,002 men and women, found that in the year before the survey, 12.4% of wives self-reported that they used violence against their husbands compared to 11.6% of husbands who self-reported using violence against their wives. Furthermore, 4.8% of wives reported using severe violence against their husbands, whereas 3.4% of husbands reported using severe violence (Straus & Gelles, 1990). Studies with college samples also find that men and women commit similar rates of physical aggression (Cercone, Beach, & Arias, 2005) or that a higher prevalence of women commit physical aggression (Straus, 2004).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2968709/
The popular image of IPV is based on the familiar gender stereotype of a male villain and a female victim. But that stereotype paints an incomplete picture, with new research indicating a high number of male victims of domestic abuse.
A recent UK government survey indicated that 9% of males had experienced some form of partner abuse, which amounts to around 1.4 million men. This includes stalking, physical violence and sexual assault. Indeed, a seminal US study found that male IPV victims are often slapped, kicked, punched, grabbed or choked by their partners.
Interestingly, a growing body of international research indicates that men and women experience IPV in similar proportions. For example, a recent survey from Canada’s national statistical agency concluded that “equal proportions of men and women reported being victims of spousal violence during the preceding 5 years (4% respectively).”
The aforementioned surveys indicate that small proportions of men (less than 20% of victims) will tell the police or a health professional about their victimization. This may be due to well-grounded fears that they will be scorned, ridiculed, or disbelieved by these authorities.
Indeed, a recent research paper by Dr. Elizabeth Bates from the University of Cumbria found that the overarching experience of male IPV victims was that "no one would ever believe me." One victim noted "I told friends, they laughed while another stated … the police, they laughed."
Incredulously, laughter is a common response to male victims of IPV. This is illustrated in the short "social experiment" video here, examining public reactions to a male being abused by a female on a street. This video has over 8 million views on YouTube and is a powerful educational tool.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201911/domestic-violence-against-men-no-laughing-matter
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Male offenders for all homicides are 88.8%. Women: 11.2%. In instances where one intimate partner murders another, males commit 65.5% of these homicides, women: 29.2%. When children are the victims, it's men who murdered them 61.8% of the time, women: 38.2%. When elderly victims are killed, men commit 93.5% of these crimes- women: 6.5%. In cases of serial killing (multiple victims): men are the offenders 93.5% of the time, women: 6.5%. In instances where two or more offenders work together to commit a homicide men are the offenders 91.6% of the time, women: 8.4%. ...Yampolskaya, Greenbaum, and Berson (2009), in a study examining 126 profiles of perpetrators of fatal assault in United States, found that males were three times more likely to fatally assault their children. The study also found that non-biological parents were 17 times more likely to commit a fatal assault toward a child than biological parents (Yampolskaya et al., 2009)…. Most researchers who have used police homicide records regarding fatal child abuse suggest that the majority of perpetrators are males (Lyman et al., 2003). https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/who-abuses-children ...With respect to homicide in 2014, females were victims of intimate partner homicide at a rate four times greater than their male counterparts (0.44 per 100,000 females aged 15 and over versus 0.11 for males aged 15 and over) (Table 6). ...Men were considered the accused in 81% of cases of violent victimization against women, and in 79% of cases of violent victimization against males; whereas females accounted for 10% of victimizations against females and 10% against males. These findings are supported by results from other studies in the United States, where the majority of perpetrators that came to the attention of the criminal justice system were men (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2006; Heimer and Lauritsen, 2008; U.S. Department of Justice, 2009)....Studies from Australia, Canada, Israel, South Africa and the United States of America show that 40–70% of female murder victims were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, frequently in the context of an ongoing abusive relationship (22–25). This contrasts starkly with the situation of male murder victims. In the United States, for example, only 4% of men murdered between 1976 and 1996 were killed by their wives, ex-wives or girlfriends (26). In Australia between 1989 and 1996, the figure was 8.6% ...Issues of respect don’t only affect males, of course – but overwhelmingly, murders tend to be committed by men: the current proportion in the US is 90%....
[–]abaxeron✴️Indian Programmer1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
"Men are so DANGEROUS that we women spent the last century insisting that sharing the same workplaces, education facilities, and recreational spaces with them should be recognized as human right".
Galaxy brain, we KNOW that women are so weak and incompetent that some of them have more than 5 failed suicide attempts under their belt; get to the point already.
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Women experience poverty at higher rates than men. Men receive more income than women from all sources, including wages and salaries, investment, retirement, and other income. Single mothers have the most unstable earnings and are among the most impoverished people in Canada. There are several reasons why women (and children) live in poverty: Discrimination against women in gaining access to paid work and a fair income. Sex-role stereotypes about women's involvement in paid work. women account for 70% of all part-time employees and two-thirds of women are employed within traditionally women-dominated occupations. A change in family composition, such as a divorce, greatly increases a woman's chance of entering poverty. Intersectionality: Aboriginal women, racialized women, disabled women and queer women are more likely to live in poverty than white women, able-bodied women and heterosexual women. In Canada, women are at greater risk of poverty than men becauImagese of their gender. Social constructions of gender ideas about what it means to be a woman also contribute to women's poverty. Because of stereotypes about women's nature and their ability and desire to act as caregivers, women are disproportionately responsible for unpaid caregiving labour, for example looking after children or aging or ill family members. Women are frequently dependent on men for financial support, which makes them vulnerable to exploitation and to poverty if the relationship with the man breaks down
[–]abaxeron✴️Indian Programmer0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Around mid-20th century US, women constituted around half (by some estimates, majority) of spouse murderers
Women give less births than ever in history, regardless of how expensive it is to have a child
Women give less births than ever in history, regardless of their workforce participation
Women give EVEN LESS births in countries with highest involvement of men in parenting
Women are more likely to give birth out of wedlock when they have better access to abortion
in the US alone, women consume around $70 billion of men's money annually through social security alone; on average, estimates for Denmark, Norway, and New Zealand show that, despite giving birth to less children than ever in history, women consume more welfare than ever in history; an average woman currently never compensates state's investment into her SCHOOL education
Women in USA have been initiating the majority of divorces AT LEAST since year 1867
becauImagese
How do you pronounce this?!
[–]skylarkeleven0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
men are more likely to be homeless. men commit suicide at higher rates. men are often denied custody of their children despite incompetent mothers. men spend longer in jail for the same crime. men are expected to pay alimony and child support, even when we have split custody. i’m expected to pay my exes expenses for our children, even though i have them half the time, thus i pay 75% of childcare. many women think men CANNOT be raped. unwed males most often cannot adopt. i would be required to financially support a child if a woman poked holes in my condom. more men die in workplace incidents. men work 56% of hours. circumcision isn’t considered an invasive practice by most women. the only men’s domestic violence shelter was shut down and the founder received death threats, thee are hundreds of women’s DV shelters.
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"A CBC News analysis reveals that in November 2019, an average of 620 women and children a day were turned away from domestic violence shelters across Canada. That's nearly 19,000 times a month, if November was typical...In more than 80 per cent of cases, people were turned away because the shelter was full." .."the only men’s domestic violence shelter was shut down and the founder received death threats," I very much doubt that the death threats were from women. " data generally shows that men tend to inflict the greater share of injuries and incite significantly more fear in domestic violence.[34] Critics have used studies such as Dekeseredy et al. to argue that "studies finding about equal rates of violence by women in relationships are misleading because they fail to place the violence in context; in other words, there is a difference between someone who uses violence to fight back or defend oneself and someone who initiates an unprovoked assault."[35]"..."[37] Another 2011 review published in the journal of Aggression and Violent Behavior also found that although minor domestic violence was equal, more severe violence was perpetrated by men. It was also found that men were more likely to beat up, choke or strangle their partners, while women were more likely to use less direct or life-threatening means such as a slap or throwing objects from a distance.[38]"..."Data from a wide range of countries suggest that partner violence accounts for a significant number of deaths by murder among women. Studies from Australia, Canada, Israel, South Africa and the United States of America show that 40–70% of female murder victims were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, frequently in the context of an ongoing abusive relationship (22–25). This contrasts starkly with the situation of male murder victims. In the United States, for example, only 4% of men murdered between 1976 and 1996 were killed by their wives, ex-wives or girlfriends (26). In Australia between 1989 and 1996, the figure was 8.6% ."With respect to homicide in 2014, females were victims of intimate partner homicide at a rate four times greater than their male counterparts (0.44 per 100,000 females aged 15 and over versus 0.11 for males aged 15 and over) (Table 6). " Poverty and violence play a kind of toxic dance in women's lives. Poverty marginalizes women, increasing their risk of victimization, while violence also isolates women, as the mental and physical effects grind away at women's sense of well-being, limiting what is possible. The combined effects of poverty and violence create a formidable barrier to women's equality, well-being and full participation in society. Both reflect unequal relationships of power which result in the systemic discrimination of women. This systemic discrimination means that women are less likely to get well-paying jobs and to meet their needs for decent housing, education, child-care and health services." phs.ca "Recent studies show that the more children a woman has, the lower her hourly pay. For men, the opposite tendency applies. Men with children have higher hourly pay than men without children. The wage gap is small or non-existent for never-married men and women.12" & https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/89-503-x/2015001/article/54930-eng.htm "Women are more vulnerable to low income than men, for a number of reasons. For one thing, women are paid less than men with the same qualifications, even when they work the same number of hours.Note 38 Traditionally-female occupations have lower average hourly wages than traditionally-male occupations, even when they require the same skill level.Note 39 Women are also overrepresented in low-paying occupations.Note 40 On the home front, women are more likely than men to care for children and elderly or disabled family members. Combining earning and caring roles is challenging, so women are more likely than men to reduce their work hours or take time out of the workforce to care for family.Note 41"
lmao right, if we’re so dangerous why do they insist upon spending every aspect of their lives within 5 feet of our cocks
... or autistic?
[–]VoteLobsterFlying Purple Eco-Fascist1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty sure this person just copies and pastes paragraphs from Wikipedia articles. You can tell by the way references are bracketed but usually not linked.
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Statistics have been consistent in reporting that men commit more criminal acts than women. Self-reported delinquent acts are also higher for men than women across many different actions.[3] Burton, et al. (
They use the same reasoning and statistics to justify putting black people in prison for longer time than white people.
Shut up, woman. Nobody cares what you have to say.
Without men, you wouldn't be Googling those crime statistics on your smartphone; you would be dying of dysentery in a cave somewhere after watching your children get eaten by bears, who then died of dysentery. You're fucking welcome.
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same here. I've never gone to an event or establishment where there was a line where men are waiting to get into a bathroom and there wasn't a line TWICE AS LONG for women. Just going by the fact that a woman has to sit to do any business, means she's going to take longer. So the women's bathroom lines will be twice as long and twice as slow.
This isn't like sentencing women to less years in jail for the same crime or "I have a womb so I need to be given the kid gloves treatment in life." Those excuses for treating women are arbitrary, based on bullshit reasoning and and even counter productive to society and the welfare of the human race. The problem with the bathroom thing is clearly, easily measurable. We can't have women running around peeing and shitting themselves.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
its fascinating how bass-ackwards this is. tranny dick sucking libfem handmaidens are forcing men into women rooms, not trying to force women into men's rooms
[–]Sid_InsidiousMGTOW VolCel Mall Santa0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Close all washrooms and put a bucket by everybody's desk. And no, everybody gets the same color.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know, I've been around... And think we just inherently tribal dogma driven beings. Sometimes it is good and sometimes it is bad, the question is when do we cease with pre-conceptions and witness the world as we ought to?
[–]nacho-chonkyRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Naw the feminists aren’t gonna stop untill both bathrooms are strictly women’s washrooms and men have to go outside
[–]Bntt890 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unisex bathroom next to a single gendered one? What's your point?
[–]versaceatnight0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Accurate representation of the base of your opinion against feminism. Leaving the men-only toilet purposefully out of the picture to complain that it isn’t there. Perfect analogy, really.
[–]Reddit-password-isRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wut
[–]Smelly_Ham0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You begin to realize it's about revenge more than anything
[–]Newspaupert0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Accurate and equally pathetic username
[–]phantomholiday1430 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I’m just gonna assume that anyone upvoting this has exclusively read about “feminism” Facebook lmfao
[–]SocietalEngineering0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The way to fix this in this society is to get trans males (women who think they are men) to say that they feel unsafe in any room that isn’t specifically for men. Then then will have no choice.
[–]HoneyNJ2000Not a Fan of Chads :-)-2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't want any man NEAR me in a bathroom or worse, have to use a toilet some man has used.
That is just freakin' nasty.
[–]feraxilBe Excellent to Each Other4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But using a toilet used by the hover-piss gender isn't?
at least i can aim when i piss while not sitting
[–]orcscorper..||. |.|.| ...|| .|.|| |..||0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have no idea. You only know the horrorshow that is the women's bathroom. I cleaned bathrooms for two years, and the only event where the men's rooms were slightly dirtier than the women's was the monster truck show.
Heavy metal shows, wrestling, hockey: women's rooms were always twice as dirty. You had to have an audience at least 95% male before the restrooms were equally nasty.
You know how you walk into a stall, and there are three hundred squares of TP on the floor? Yeah, men's rooms are never like that. You know how every woman is afraid to sit on the seat, so she hovers and sprays piss everywhere, so nobody wants to sit on the toilet seat? Not a thing in the men's room. You can sit your ass right down on the seat, and be totally dry. It's glorious.
I never knew how good I had it until I got a job cleaning up after women.
have you never used a home bathroom? lmao
[–]MountianMan8282-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very very true
Nice reversal. Men dressed as women want to use women’s bathrooms because they’re safer there.
Meanwhile trans men can and should continue to enjoy the privacy of women’s bathrooms.
Women’s spaces are for women’s safety.
There’s no reason to exclude women from jobs they can and do perform as well or better than men.
But men gonna cry about not have access to places where little girls change their tampons and cry about losing jobs to competent women.
[–]Fishyinthemiddle-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
TBF, women's bathrooms often have a longer line so this way men and women would wait equal times and it'd be more fair.
[–]Jaktenba1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not what "fair" means. Besides, it's not like women actually care whether it's a male only restroom or a gender neutral/family one.
[–]Fishyinthemiddle-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, we've had very different bathroom experiences. 🤷♀️
Fair does not mean equal, btw.
Some states actually have potty parity laws that recognize the problem of women taking longer and having more clothes to remove. They require more fixtures for women to make the waits similar
[–]Fishyinthemiddle0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's cool!
most mens rooms have like 3 urinals and 2 stalls. my wife says most womens rooms have like 7 or 8 stalls
Men drive way more miles than do women, so two lanes should be designated "male drivers only" for every lane labeled "female drivers only". It would be more fair, and we wouldn't get stuck behind stupid broads who had their turn signal on for the last seventeen miles, and are too busy updating their Instagram to watch the fucking road.
[–]YveisGrey-2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Its way more likely to be the other way around actually
[–]skylarkeleven0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
i’ve never seen a place with neutral and mens but no women’s. i’ve seen plenty with neutral and women’s with no men’s.
[–]YveisGrey0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What? Lol I have never seen the opposite the women’s bathroom will be for everyone while the men’s is only for men. Because trans “women” can’t be in there with the men duh! Also trans “men” don’t wanna be with men either and I get that but allowing men in the women’s room is just freaky
[–]skylarkeleven0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
i sincerely doubt there is anywhere with only a gender neutral and men’s bathroom. i routinely travel internationally and across the US for work and have never seen that.
[–]YveisGrey0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
https://www.feministcurrent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/C9CrRASXsAAM8or.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7226117/amp/Woman-slammed-saying-felt-VIOLATED-man-used-gender-neutral-bathroom-her.html
[–]YveisGrey0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly proves that women’s bathrooms can and are being made into gender neutral ones as well.
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