Any women here feel "alone" or that you do not fit in with this society?

thesillymachine · 2020-06-02T12:20:43+00:00

Is every single woman in the world now a liberal feminist? Are there really no more countering views of what it means to be a woman?

I have this same conversation with my mother about music sometimes. "Is everything out there just crappy mumblerap and identical pop songs?" she asks. "Is that all there is?"

No. What you see is what is marketed to you. And what is marketed to you is what sells. Media about being a "strong independent woman" is what sells these days. Whether that's because people love it or because people love to hate it is besides the point. I know it's hard, but try not to fall into the trap of believing what you see is the only thing that is out there. There are women like you -- you just have to find them.

Cultivate_a_Rose · 2020-06-02T13:26:51+00:00

The pregnancy subs are a particular pet peeve of mine atm. My monthly bumper group for my first was awesome. There was a scattering of PC stuff going on but overall it was about being pregnant.

This time around I had to unsub because a very small number of 'non binary' pregnant people hijacked the sub way too often. We got lectures about not all pregnant people being women and we got lectures about referring to people on the sub as 'moms'. I couldn't deal with the politics when I wanted to whine about morning sickness.

The thing was, there were women who would disagree and get a lot of up votes but few had the wherewithal to speak out. I think you aren't as alone as you feel, but like you, a lot of people are disinterested in being shouted down by a vocal minority.

Pola_Lita · 2020-06-02T12:00:34+00:00

Without knowing what your views are, it's hard to make a comparison between yours and everyone else's.

I can tell you at least that no, every single women in the world is not now a liberal feminist, but rather the rule of the most extreme tending to be the loudest is as true as it ever was. I can also tell you that the female membership here tends to be kind and it's rare to come across any woman who doesn't want to help.

The best approach would be to just try it and see. :)

FWIW, I lean liberal, feminist, but not "liberal feminist", atheist, and gender roles make me happy.

missylizzy · 2020-06-02T11:53:00+00:00

I think you should focus on the not having friends you can tell your true feelings too.

How did you get to a point where you just have these empty friendships?

What can you do to open your social circle up and invite new people in?

Where will you find the people you want to connect with? They'll be doing whatever it is you have in common with them. What is that? What do you want and offer in a female friendship?

I couldn't make it through the week without my ladies to babble on to. The 4 closest ones have been around over 20 years. They're still around because we've all made a conscious effort to keep in touch as we've moved through life. The friendships have all weathered conflict and challenge. But it takes effort.

emmajade922 · 2020-06-02T12:30:26+00:00

Everyday. You're not alone in feeling that way. Message if you'd like to chat about anything ♡

missylizzy · 2020-06-02T15:11:07+00:00

I think that when people don't know each other very well, they tend to just express the most mainstream views when they talk to each other. That's because the mainstream views are safest.

I think often, when people get to know each other better and trust each other more, they open up about their unconventional views. But that takes time.

So it's probably better to focus on finding common ground and building a relationship at first, rather than looking for people with the same views as you.

But I know it's hard. This lockdown has made me realize that I've done a bad job at staying in touch with most of my friends, and I need to work harder at that. It's wonderful having people in your life who you can trust with anything.

missylizzy · 2020-06-02T12:23:04+00:00

I'm liberal but not a feminist. I appreciate the work of previous feminists but I simply can't subscribe to modern feminism, it's become as bad as what they're trying to fight. So I kinda don't fit in anywhere, or so it feels...

missylizzy · 2020-06-02T12:56:49+00:00

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SpottySpew · 2020-06-02T13:23:06+00:00

I mean personally I’m fairly liberal in the sense that the current state of conservative ideology doesn’t appeal to me, but I feel the exact same. The best advice I can give is to join groups online of local moms or wives and see if you click with anyone.

Svendtherogue · 2020-06-03T11:08:09+00:00

You're not alone. I live in a socialist country (Scandinavia) where you are ridiculed if you're not voting left (very left). My dream is to work in politics because I want to help creating a better future for my children.. but I know that the second I take the step and show the world that I'm a liberal freethinking woman who isn't ruled by her emotions...then I'm an unemotional crazy person. I'm working hard to not care but I am quite surprised how much discrimination there is towards political view. Is it so bad not to run a country based on feelings? To me it sounds like a recipe to disaster to do so.

Anyway, I have exactly 0 girl friends who share my beliefs. I've gotten to the point where I don't even talk to anyone about it anymore. I'm working on myself and growing a thicker skin. And then I will achieve my goals and hopefully inspire other women so we aren't so alone in the world. We can do it:)

missylizzy · 2020-06-02T12:27:52+00:00

I do too.

Canada is a very liberal country and the conservative people often have racist views.....

I’d rather be friends with someone who’s liberal than someone who’s openly racist, so I find that most of my friends don’t agree with what I believe or what I want to do with my life. (Be a homemaker and a SAHM)

I feel your pain, girl.

kiwii_x · 2020-06-02T13:42:41+00:00

Yes I would agree, that my morals are too strong to conceal. However, I dont fear sharing them. I know that we are all possessed in some form by ideas and if im not allowed to say mine I may explode. I am 20F and im very conservative :/

Jasmineof-Agrabah · 2020-06-02T14:19:00+00:00

Yes I think totally like you. I have the feeling that a lot of us are more reticent to share our views on things for fear of being ridiculed, I know I keep my feelings to myself most of the time on more conservative issues because of this. It’s nice to have a subreddit like here where we can express our common view of the world. This sub has helped me a lot figuring things out about myself and working towards bettering myself!

missylizzy · 2020-06-02T15:17:54+00:00

If you're referring to traditional, conservative women who are not modern feminists and prefer to be in the home, I think there are plenty of women out there who are like that. However, they are more often than not quiet and don't broadcast these views on the internet. The obvious exception being YouTube homemakers/ TradWife Influencers sharing their experiences. Many of these women are greatly admired on this sub. Example: Mrs. Midwest, Cynthia L. etc. Definitely check them and their respective networks out.

It's important to remember that just because a particular group is louder, it doesn't make them the majority. They are just more likely to voice their opinions.

jonathaninfresno · 2020-06-02T19:27:15+00:00

We believe like u sis. Dont forget u have a community here. We anit going no where until the communist quarantine us

goldensurrender · 2020-06-02T21:09:53+00:00

I’m very liberal AND red pulled, go figure

z0mb1equeen · 2020-06-03T03:31:49+00:00

I feel very alone too. I don't have any female friends to talk about relationship or women issues. The conservatives I know are male. I wish we were allowed to create RPW meetups but we can't post our locations :( I understand it's a safety measure too

2020-06-03T04:07:50+00:00

I feel the same way. Others who aren’t SAHMs say they don’t judge you, but they totally do and you can tell. It’s an unfair double standard. We are the minority though. Not much to be done.

Also basically friendless. You’re not alone

rthayerf · 2020-06-02T14:54:36+00:00

Go to Church to make good female friends.

DigitalDog0001 · 2020-06-02T18:37:18+00:00

Those with nothing to say,say it the loudest MissL. It’s easy to struggle at times being “outnumbered. You’re on the right course and will find the rewards

wispo-wills · 2020-06-02T19:51:47+00:00

I feel for you completely. It's isolating when it seems like it's mainstream to believe that all women have to be male in order to thrive (it's hyperbole but it's basically what they're saying, imo). Where I live, I have trouble making female friends because what I'm looking for is absolutely not the majority. It's more like finding a needle in a haystack.

It's difficult for me to even find solace with my own mother because she's part of this brigade. I think she'd have a difficult time accepting my goals (to be a housewife) but she'd "accept" it anyway because she just thinks I'm young and ignorant. One day I'll learn that career and finding value in how much money I bring home is more important than building a positive home life. 😒 I'll learn when I'm older, you know?

Even when I find women who are critical of feminism, I am still very sheepish disclosing my housewifery. It's very bizarre.... I find that it's easier to find men who accept it but I need more female friends. 😅

-Acta-Non-Verba- · 2020-06-02T20:12:18+00:00

Look at election results. The country is divided roughly 50/50 (assuming you are American). Find a good, solid church that teaches traditional values. You are likely to find like-minded ladies there.

angry_ogunsoto · 2020-06-02T21:57:59+00:00

I am a man (22). I always felt alone and never fit in with this society.

sammiamia · 2020-06-02T23:01:41+00:00

The “average” is over. Its the best time in history to be different IMO. Embrace who you are espacially in the darkest moments. 🥰Weman strong! 💪💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻 https://medium.com/@benjaminhardy/how-emotionally-intelligent-people-consume-media-c37b2c05f19b

sandyreflection · 2020-06-03T00:50:59+00:00

All the time. I relate to this so much. I feel really isolated, and I wish I knew other ladies who leaned more traditional and conservative. I'm stuck in a very liberal area right now though.

missylizzy · 2020-06-03T07:37:18+00:00

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CountVP · 2020-06-26T17:32:52+00:00

Is every single woman in the world now a liberal feminist? Are there really no more countering views of what it means to be a woman?

Does it even matter?

Following the herd is the best way to fuck up your life. The more you act in constrast to what you think is rght the more stressfull your life becomes. People follow trends in fear of being "the outsider" and in fear of "lonliness". I guaranfucking-tee you following trends will be bad for you stead. It makes you deeply unhappy because you'll always look for others to allow you to be happy. Following trends makes you societie's b*tch. It gives them power over you

Look at the greatest people that ever lived.

Were they trend followers or were they trend makers?

The greatest people are confident enough to walk their own path. And as a result they end up with ppl that like them for what they are.

They act according to what is right for them. They don't lie to themselves. They are not fakers. When you no longer act to please others but to please yourself, then you findd the key to true and actual happiness.

BluzzKill · 2020-06-28T03:03:42+00:00

The radical feminist left is busy yelling from every rooftopin an attempt to relieve their own misery The other side is happy and not constantly posting bullshit. Women are also apt to go along with the crowd which can be as simple as who is loudest.

On the plus side right wing men are so excited for an ideological partner, make that your selling point and you get a couple free SMV points to that side assuming they are looking for something serious.

Take pride in who you are

Cultivate_a_Rose · 2020-06-02T14:35:15+00:00

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thesillymachine · 2020-06-02T15:38:14+00:00

I understand. I replied to a comment just yesterday where someone sounded like they would possibly really like what homeschooling has to offer. All I did was ask if they would be interested and I got downvoted. Like, it was a question, dude. Thankfully, there was no ridiculous argument or trolling. It was a post about being concerned for our children's future.

pearlsandstilettos · 2020-06-02T21:48:37+00:00

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Title	Any women here feel "alone" or that you do not fit in with this society?
Author	missylizzy
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Comments	107
Date	June 2, 2020 11:38 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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