After going through dead bedrooms and married red pill sub i can't help but feel sorry for some of them. I understand some of them let themselves go by getting fat, not creating tingles, losing frame etc. But some of them do everything to succeed (lift, holding frame, improve financially and socially, leading their household) and there are definitely success stories after applying RP principles but some still have issues after that and their wives don't desire them and aren't attracted to them despite their efforts.