EDIT: read the post in response to the thread

Pre altercation:

  1. Determine whether you are under an obligation to retreat (know the law).

  2. If you can retreat, decide why you are choosing to stay (You should have a good reason and be willing to live with the potential consequences).

  3. Can you get another party involved to deescalate the situation. In bars, you can let the bouncer know the situation and the potential issue. I consider having other at fault parties bounced a win and more satisfying than verbal or physical confrontation. At house parties I've pulled a girlfriend of the out of control girl or the alpha female of the environment aside and asked them to deal with the situation. In my experience the social status of the girls you pull aside is key. They have to be on the same level or above to have any effect. You can also pull aside multiple girls and use them against the out of control female in question.

  4. Get the event on video

When confrontation arises get it on video. In a emergency situation you always point to someone and tell them to call 911. In this type of situation, you need to point to a friend or third party and tell them to film.

"It's sad, but she's only doing this because she knows it will work."

"Women believe in their hearts, and all their experiences have demonstrated, that all they have to do is get a guy to punch them and it will work. They got the guy now."

"What this lady forgot is that it has to be "my word against his word." There can't be video evidence. If it's just "my word against his word" she will always ... ALWAYS ... win."

Post altercation

It's a race to call the police. Who ever calls first gets to be the victim complainant. By default the other party is the perpetrator. The system is set up so who ever makes the initial call is assumed to be the victim.

So if you are the guy in a situation like this you should call first. When the officer arrives you should be calm and nonthreatening. Officer I'm the one that called you that's the woman that attacked me. I will sign the complaint. Evidence and witnesses are here. Officer you'll have my full cooperation in 24 hrs after I have spoken with counsel. It's key that in a similar situation that you don't let witnesses leave that can prove you innocent.

There is no doubt in my mind that she didn't play up the victim card after he hit her and the cops arrived. People don't fight fair and women are notorious for using female privilege under the law to win.

In the above situation the man was charged with a felony after the fact because he let the girl control the narrative after the fact.

So to recap:

Pre altercation - Determine whether you are under an obligation to retreat (know the law), decide why you are choosing to stay (you should have a good reason) and Get the event on video

Altercation:

I wont comment on this other than suggest a reasonable defensible amount of force. I'd also suggest restraining over physical strikes.

After, watching the other video that was posted today. I'll add that I think mace would have been a nice resolution to the videos and would have perfectly resolved the situation.

Post altercation Summary:

  1. Call first

  2. Point out the perpetrator to the police

  3. Tell the police you will "sign the complaint"

  4. Point out the evidence to Police ( bruising/scratches/ect. Point out security surveillance and video evidence on scene)

  5. Point out the witnesses to police (The witnesses that will help you. Point out people and video surveillance. Don't let them leave and don't let people that can prove your version of events choose not to get involved)

  6. Did not tell police he will give his full cooperation in 24 hours after speaking to with his attorney

  7. Shut the fuck up and do not talk to the police after covering 1-6 until consulting with counsel.

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After

After the event do not let other parties frame you as the Bad guy and aggressor. Do not let your male and female friends get away with being sexist. Calmly and rationally explain your side. Call them on their sexism and refuse to associate and potentially socially isolate parties from your social circle that are going tow the radfem party line. Let your male and female friends know that they having nothing to fear if they don't attack you and that you defended yourself like any human being would do. Again no one male or female has the right to assault another person.

This post comes to mind:

unkxxx

"Here's the thing. I'm a 300lb male and pretty stocky. I have never put a hand on a women before. I was raised to believe it is always wrong and in any situation I should be able to walk away. But......one night at a party I was antagonized repeatedly and at one point the female actually bit my forearm. I threw my arm to the side towards her and kind of threw her across the room. I have been stigmatized as someone who has hit a women now. It's rediculous how one sided these stories always become. I don't really have a point other than women need to realize how much harm they are doing to their own cause when they act as such."

person responding to unkxx "Things happen, emotions flare, people make mistakes. Don't wear what you did on your shoulders. You aren't crazy, or improper, you just acted."

unkxx

I really appreciate that. I honestly forgot about the whole situation until two nights ago. I was at my friends house and a bunch of girls came over and one of them was friends with the "victim" of the last incident. She just kept yelling at me and calling me a woman beater so I packed up my stuff and went home. I don't think what I did was wrong but it is still a really shitty situation to be in.

my response to unkxx

She just kept yelling at me and calling me a woman beater so I packed up my stuff and went home.

Now you've given legitimacy to her story. You should have expressed your view of the incident and then told the host if they didn't want you there you would leave. Don't allow yourself to be bullied.

Should have added to my comment to unkxx but don't allow yourself to be victimized and bullied after the fact. Being known as a woman beater can have far reaching implications for you socially and your career.

So again, do not let other parties frame you as the Bad guy and aggressor. Do not let your male and female friends get away with being sexist. Calmly and rationally explain your side. Call them on their sexism and refuse to associate and potentially socially isolate parties from your social circle that are going tow the radfem party line. Let your male and female friends know that they having nothing to fear if they don't attack you and that you defended yourself like any human being would do. Again no one male or female has the right to assault another person.

Ask them why? Ask them why they don't support equality? Ask the women if it would be ok for a woman to assault them? Ask the men, why it would be ok for a smaller weaker man to assault them?

Reiterate you believe sexism hurts men and women and you are pro-feminism, pro-equity and pro human rights.

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Post script:

In my opinion, violence is generally not the answer, violence shouldn't be your first or last response to any situation, but self defense is respectable.

As far a feminism goes - this has nothing to do with that

Not sure if you noticed but she hit him first and yet our culture conditions us to believe it doesn't count because she's a woman and the male is the dominate aggressor (she's weaker). And yet we have an "epidemic of violence against women" in a society where men are a large percentage of victims of violent attacks, DV assaults and emotional abuse.

In 2013 President Obama signed into a law a new Violence Against Women Act and strengthened the 1994 Violence Against Women Act Signed by Clinton.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/07/obama-violence-against-women-act_n_2830158.html

Feminist lobbied against gender neutral language. The unequal treatment of men under the law is a result of feminism and this injustice is due to feminism. Women are privileged under the law. It didn't use to be the case regarding domestic violence but now the pendulum has swung their way and they fought and have continued to fight against equity. So, Fuck you. This is feminism and female privilege in action. There is not proportionate funding for male victims of DV or an equitable enforcement of the law.

In my opinion feminist shouldn't be allowed to claim to be for equality and be allowed to ignore human issues. I find it appalling that some people can claim they are for equality and then say that men need to advocate for men's issues and then dismiss them for doing so.

Note IANAL and this post should not be taken as advice. Please regard this as fiction. Seek out qualified advice and make your own informed decisions. I am not responsible for you or your actions. Ultimately no one but you cares about you or what's in your best self interest.

This post does not deal with Domestic Violence and or the new dominate aggressor theory. If you want to weigh in on those issues as well please contribute.