is it true that feminism has made it easier for us guys to engage in casual sex?

Vergil387 · 2014-01-05T11:00:34+00:00

The effects of feminism on sexual availability are notable, but not equal.

1: Due to sexual liberation there is more sex going around. Women are more prepared to jump into bed with men faster and more frequently than in say the 1950's

2: The split is far from even. Because of women's entitled attitude, also caused by feminism, they believe they are entitled to a top level man. So the vast majority of the extra sex is going to the top 20%.

If you imagine sex as currency, feminism has caused the rich to get richer, while the poor have seen their wealth increase only moderately if at all.

emptyform · 2014-01-05T08:26:01+00:00

I think it's true, feminism definitely has let women stay socially accepted and even praised for sleeping around. However, the price we paid was steeper. They gave us sluts in exchange for wives, bedroom gymnasts in exchange for good mothers.

luxury_banana · 2014-01-05T12:35:18+00:00

To put it more clearly, the amount of available sex hasn't really changed much. What has changed is the distribution of it. As a rule, women now provide harems to a smaller percentage of highly attractive men.

TRPinitiate · 2014-01-05T14:13:03+00:00

Feminism has made casual sex a lot easier for the top 20% of guys at the expense of making it harder on the remaining 80%.

TL;DR MAKE SURE YOU'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON BECOMING OR STAYING IN THAT TOP 20%

Clauderoughly · 2014-01-05T17:48:19+00:00

80/20 rule

Feminism HAS made it easier for the top 20% Alpha males, the rest can pound sand.

Feminism has made women much more slutty, but it hasn't changed what women are attracted to, namely dominant, good looking, alpha males.

Women would rather share an alpha with multiple women, than fuck a beta.

So in a way it's true, but it's not applied evenly across the male population.

For example, I am married but because I have been taking the lessons of TRP to heart, and improving myself, I have a couple of girlfriends on the side as well. (With my wife's blessing, long story)

So, in this case Women would rather share me, then fuck any number of beta males out there. I happen to live in a city with a fucking AWFUL rep for dating and relationships yet I currently have 3 women I can bed, rather than just one.

So yeah, in some ways it's made it easier, but not across the board.

omegainvictus · 2014-01-05T08:59:25+00:00

Yes and no. Feminism led to a small minority of men to get laid much more, while the betas lost out. Part of why this thread exists is because such people here were lied to on some level on how the sexual marketplace works. Trade sex and commitment for mutual benefit. Before, Alphas would get a girl pregnant and forced into marriage or just have their pick while others settled. Betas got to fuck too, because you married young and were stuck for life.

Society has changed.

The rise of cheap contraception and the loss of shame around divorce made it much easier for women to cheat and initiate divorce. All of TRP revolves around the sexual nature of men and women. Marriage was a way to control both for the benefit of society. Since Feminism has created and is actively promoting an environment where it is acceptable for a girl to slut it up through her life, she's going to try and get the Alphas to commit through giving them sex. Since there are much more women than Alphas, she will most likely fail. And he will move on to the next. Meanwhile Feminism argues that men should be nice little betas and give cash out to these "mature" women once they hit the wall and know what they want (beta bux) and to never argue with her in a sick type of ATM culture where women view betas as ATM machines that get rewarded with vanilla sex occasionally.

This is simply how people are by nature. It is biological optimisation. Certain sharks have young in the womb without umbilical cords, forcing the offspring to eat its siblings while still in the womb to survive. Nature is brutal. Hundreds of thousands of years of genetic rewriting cannot be easily overridden by the population at large over a few thousand years of culture. If that was true, we would not have reverted to the current situation of alphas getting more sex in the aftermath of feminism's rise. Men have always lost out when it comes to reproduction, and so marriage was implemented to make things better for the Betas of society. Without incentive to succeed, men will not act to improve the world around them.

TLDR; Only alphas get more and red pill is about taking advantage of the feminised society which we live in today because betas now get much less.

massRP · 2014-01-05T08:37:43+00:00

I agree that it has. People complain about slut shaming now, but it used to be much worse. In the past, a woman would be publicly shamed for having pre-marital sex, this is no longer the case. By sexually liberating women and making it acceptable for them to have casual, pre-marital sex without consequence, it becomes easier for men to engage in casual sex.

Now that I've written it out, it seems stupidly obvious haha

Vergil387 · 2014-01-05T10:06:04+00:00

Feminism made it easier one guys who don't care about social approval to get laid, and infinitely harder for guys who care about social approval to get laid.

Vergil387 · 2014-01-05T13:49:14+00:00

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phaseonx11 · 2014-01-06T14:43:43+00:00

Yep.

Feminism has turned a females partner count into a competition. They want to be like us, so they fuck like us.

Sort of like when you're bratty little sister wanted to hang out with you because being with older people made her feel cool.

steadymotion · 2014-01-05T15:43:34+00:00

Casual sex, yes. Is that a good thing? Not really. There are a lot of girls I could have sex with but I just don't want to because they're dumb sluts and not worth my time. I'd rather use my hand than some of these girls.

I'll take chaste women over sluts any day. And I mean real chaste women, not sluts pretending to be good girls.

But good girls are unicorns, so I usually end up settling for the least slutty of the sluts.

2014-01-05T17:08:19+00:00

If you aren't having sex now, in the old enforced monogamy system you would have been stuck working in a marriage with someone that didn't really want to have sex with you anyway.

RainingDown1 · 2014-01-05T18:32:15+00:00

Feminism has made women more slutty.

Vergil387 · 2014-01-06T06:07:04+00:00

As others have said, it made it far easier for the top 20% of guys. It actually made it a lot harder for guys in the bottom 80%. It used to be that an girl at the 60th percentile (above average) would not simply sleep with a guy in the top 20% unless she was certain that he would commit (she suspects he would not as he is out of her league). Also, many high quality men did not sleep around as much either because the stigma went both ways (to a far lesser extent for guys, but it is a lot more frowned upon in the past than today).

Since sexuality is a lot more liberal now, the top 20% of guys just fuck different women all the time and the top 50% of women flock to them to get fucked. The majority of men have to settle for the bottom half of women or post-wall women.

johnnight · 2014-01-05T08:53:45+00:00

If you know how.

Hit that gim in high school and everyone wants to touch your athletic pecs. Book of Pook, pages 32-35.

2014-01-05T18:43:02+00:00

In the end I'd say that feminism has lead to more casual sex for everyone, but like some other commenters have said, most of this casual sex is being had by a small minority of guys.

The fact is that prior to the sexual liberalization of women, waiting until marriage was pretty much the standard and even if a women didn't wait until marriage she only had maybe one or two partners before getting married. Compare that to some of my female friends who are pushing 30-40 partners. The stigma of sleeping around especially as a women has decreased alot. Modern inventions like birth control have also decreased the potential drawbacks of causal sex significantly. Back in the day, pregnancy out of wedlock was a life destroying event that gave you an ultimatum of get married or get shunned. Now days its an inconvenience but its by no means the big deal that it used to be.

Kepaso · 2014-01-05T19:44:47+00:00

more sex yes, but only for the top men. The middle and bottom are still starving

2014-01-05T20:26:31+00:00

No, feminism just made it more acceptable for it all to be blasted in our faces from ads to TV and internet space.

It's the third world paradox- a human rights group campaigns for better working conditions which gets a textile mill where girls and women are working shut down, and then to make ends meet these women end up working in illegal brothels because its the only work they can find now.

2014-01-05T20:45:18+00:00

Well, it's certainly made it easier for guys in the top 20% of SMV to engage in sex.

2014-01-05T23:22:11+00:00

Sort of. People have less sex nowadays but the social barriers to casual sex (protective fathers, being shamed by society, getting preggers and not being able to kill it ) have been torn down. Also, # of sexual partners has drastically increased with marriage decreasing and being delayed.

bad_pattern · 2014-01-08T08:51:25+00:00

it certainly has for those who manifest stronger alpha traits in whatever group/situation

mc0079 · 2014-01-05T18:59:58+00:00

Yes and it's great. I don't have to marry the first women I see to just have sex.

The 80/20 rule is sort of shit, I see many guys out there getting laid or action. I work at two bars and see it in front of me all time. In actuality, I think the 80/20 is reversed. It's more like 20/80. 80 percent of men can reasonably get sex if they put forth effort, it's the 20% that have no idea what they are doing.

Title	is it true that feminism has made it easier for us guys to engage in casual sex?
Author	The_BitterTruth
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Date	January 5, 2014 8:16 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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