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(Sorry for my English, not a native speaker. The conversations that was had are also translated and thus do not really sound as good in english. Keep this in mind)

Background

Virgin at 19, discovered TRP when I was 18, been lifting consistently for 2 years (fuckarounditis for 1.5 years before that), BJJ for 1 year. Pretty good body by irl standards, defined chest, big arms, broad shoulders, 6 pack abs etc etc. Read the sidebar, the rational male, the book of pook. Started becoming more confident socially. Practically lost my social anxiety and developed my social skills alot by slowly lowering my inhibition through the "snowball effect" that hearthistes talks about.

But recently I had delved into incel/lookism circles which fucked my mind a bit with its toxicities and it created some insecurities for me. Started thinking I would never get laid because of ugly face (recessed, weak and narrow chin and "horrible" eye area according to incels) as well as my height (5'9, which is also "horrible" according to incels). These insecurities caused me to not approach women at all and basically ignore the IOIs I was getting.

Field report

Then yesterday I was shirtless and removing some weeds from our lawn in the front our the house when a cute girl (6/10, girl next door vibe) was walking and she was definitely checking me out so I said fuck it. I said Hi and smiled. She smiled too and said Hi back, then she said "Wow, you live here? It's a really nice house"

I said jokingly "Nah, I'm just the butler, take out the trash, cut the grass etc. I know the guy who lives here though"

She starts giggling "You do? How is he like"

"He has a beard, about this tall (holding my hand in my head level). He's pretty buff too, and he walks around shirtless alot. He tells me it's because he needs the vitamin D but I just think he is a douche" while smirking

Now she starts giggling even more and she says "He sounds pretty interesting..."

Then I made some more small talk with her, then I told her we have a pool at the back of the house and he likes to swim in it at night, and I gave her my number and told her "I could set her up on a date with him". She smiles and I then hug her and tell her I'll see her.

Fast forward to the date she immediately tells me she is really excited as she has never met a guy as "smooth" as me. She then starts telling a lot of things about herself, she likes to ride horses, she is getting a degree in psychology bla bla bla. She then asks me about the house asks if I'm rich. I just laugh and tell her no, I'm just a "parasite that lives off his parents" and I will move out when I start uni. Then after a while in the pool I decided I needed to work some more kino so I told her try out and get her back massaged from the hole where the clean water is pumped in to the pool, I did this while putting a hand on her waist and in her hand to direct her there. I could tell she really enjoyed my touch so I locked eyes with her then went in for the kiss. We kissed for about 1 min straight but then I got a bit too excited and I guess forgot to push more on the escalation and she hit me with some LMR and tells me she is "not that kind of girl" and needs to get to know me more before having sex after I grabbed her ass and she felt my hard dick against her.

So I told her no problem and backed off and went up to dry myself. She then followed me and we layed and snuggled a bit in our outdoor couch that is poolside. She was really feeling my muscles and complementing them and I had a hand on her ass again this time without objections. I was looking at the stars and she asked what I thought about them, and I dont know if I did the right thing but I started telling her about some nerdy facts about stars and the universe/multiverse etc. She wasnt really engaged in the conversation but I didnt really care, I just liked talking about it and I could see she liked listening to me talking even if she didnt care/understand what I was talking about. Then she went for the kiss while I was talking and I escalated and f-closed right on the couch.

Today she texted me that she really enjoyed her time but will be out of town for a few days but would love to meet up with me again when she is back.

I really was surprised of this whole interaction. I was in the zone and it felt almost effortless. Now that I think about it I think it was because I was on a roll that day, my inner game was solid because I had crushed a deadlift PR that morning, I had run some errands successfully and got accepted to the university I wanted to. So I felt on top of the world already and didnt try to extract any value from the girl, which led to outcome dependence and non neediness.

I was also in disbelief I managed to get a girl so attracted to me we could have sex the same day, even when my face was pretty ugly or atleast below average. I dont think it was because of "beta bux" either because she knew the house wasn't mine, plus she was 18 and lived with her parents aswell so she was not in the need of a beta bux. Plus she fucked me the same day of meeting her, that means I'm not beta bux right?

So what did I do wrong/right? What can I improve? Is this normal or was I really lucky? If I was lucky, how do I hang on to this girl without becoming needy/beta? Thanks.


[–]Swelfie 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Its really that easy.

First, congrats. Sounds like you have some big hangups and you just took a fucking major hurdle and good for you.

What you did right: you were confident and funny. You were cool to this girl. You have been putting in the time at the gym and she appreciated it. You both had a great time.

Will it always be so easy? Nope. Sometimes you two just hit it off. Sometimes her shut gets in the way, sometimes yours does, sometimes life does. Whatev.

Now what you did wrong: STFU with that inner voice telling you that you are too short, that your face is ugly, and all that shit. Its BS. Its hurting you. You are fine. Change the shit about yourself that matters. You've been working out. Good job! Those muscles are healthy, they give you strength and energy and confidence. Keep up the confident wit. You don't do that with a barrage of negative vibe telling yourself that your face looks like a donkey with a tooth infection. You do that because you know you can make a person smile by flashing them a big smile. You make them feel good. That's what they want. The ugliest baby in the world flashing you a shit eating grin can make you smile and endear them to you. Its not the face, its the shut eating grin. Your face don't matter. Hold that face with confidence and pride and step up like you own the world and people will follow. And stop trying to make excuses for the girl. She wanted you and she got you. You wanted it too. Good on both of you. It's really that easy

[–]RandomTRPan0n7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Despite your anxiety, your SMV is probably pretty high around 7 or 8 (even despite your face) (If you're honest with her being a 6).

There was a post here that outlines difficulty gaming women as it relates to your personal SMV. Usually, gaming a women 2 to 3 points above your SMV is hard, gaming one at your SMV takes effort, and gaming 1 below is easy. Anything 2 below your own requires nearly no effort.

Since this one seemed so easy youre probably significantly above her SMV.

Congrats man.

[–]beat-942 points43 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What you did wrong is waste your time on incel shit. Gtfo that nonsense before you get contaminated.

Everything else looks good.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gtfo that nonsense before you get contaminated.

Already done. I've "ascended"

[–]voxiqs0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you explain incel shift a little ?

[–]beat-910 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Incel, short for Involuntary Celibate.

Basically the beta male version of #metoo.

Guys who chose to glorify victimisation and prefer to blame circumstances instead of taking responsibility and fighting back.

[–]c_w_o_o_l_l_y3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he was asking which part was incelish. The second paragraph was very incel.

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You did everything thing wrong. Stop lifting and stop approaching random girls.

[–]CaptDeadlift34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And start confessing your undying love while encouraging her to experience other guys too!

Sounds like a plan.

[–]DuckCommanderH7524 points25 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

As a beta faggot 19 year old, just wanted to let you know your story motives me. I caught myself literally smiling while reading this because you have some serious game bro. You're solid man keep it up.

[–]imtheoneimmortal4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

a faggot like me took a girl in home but didn't do too much cuz im faggot beta

[–]DuckCommanderH756 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Same brother. Took a girl to my apartment only to find my AC had been turned off. Hadn't set up my TV or XBOX yet, so my afternoon consisted of us awkwardly chilling uncomfortably on my couch eating snow cones for 45 minutes talking until she said she had to leave. I left like a fucking moron, being that there is literally no other activity we could have done otherwise at 2:30pm on a Wednesday in a small town. I still cringe. I'd sit by her for a while then she'd act awkward so i'd back off. Any other guy in my situation would have gotten at least a kiss.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao sorry but that visual is really funny

[–]imtheoneimmortal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

damn, i put some music, and let her drink some water, we sit on couch and watch netflix and some kino but i didn't escalated. probably cuz i hadnt practice, it will happens no problem.
Me too i didnt kiss, but it was funny cuz she's engaged in ltr and she has some good time

[–]TehJimmyy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

its okay you will get it next time.

[–]imtheoneimmortal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it boosted my too much my confidence cuz i realized after what i did,
yeah next time i will get something

[–]Self-honest2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop calling yourself a faggot

[–]Scheme008 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To answer your question...no it’s not that easy. You got an easy lay, that’s awesome. What I see here is that you sound like a cool dude that can banter and can open women. Never ever think of yourself as ugly. You acted like a man, and men have sex. Not usually this fast. There are experiences like being in college where easy sex can be had but that’s because of the environment. Keep saying hi to girls you like and take it from there and you will be fine. ✌🏼

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

One thing I want to point out is how u handled the LMR. I'm big into history and metaphysics and space stuff and I can talk at length about any of those topics and I have found that if you get a girl a little excited about sex with a nice makeout sesh and minor groping, then launch into stuff her little brain cannot handle but you are clearly passionate about, then her taste of intimacy along with your passion seems to magically disintegrate any anti-slut defenses she may have erected. Or she wants to shut u up with a kiss. Either or ha.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That makes sense, gonna do it more in the future

[–]matt6750 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes this is true

[–]Bruchibre5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I learned that in general it wasn't that hard, but in this case I think you were lucky and she is a bit of a THOT :)

I got disappointed in a girl I know recently when I realised that she basically has slept with every guy who gave her attention for the last 2 months (OK, 3 guys including me). Everytime "I'm not usually like that"... eh. And she is extremely hot and attractive (41yo though, post wall I guess, but ex-triathlon champion and young face). So yes, AWALT, learn to deal with it.

[–]Xoramung 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

she likes to ride horses,

slut...

she is getting a degree in psychology bla bla bla.

slut

She then asks me about the house asks if I'm rich

gold digging slut...

[–]ppanthero6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, well - he is probably not going to marry her.

[–]Exodus2301 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Horses

Psychology student.

Ding ding ding slooooot.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

What does horses have to do with being a slut? My older sister rides horses

[–]OneMinuteDeen1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Well, is she a slut?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

No she has been with the same boyfriend since she was 18, only guy she has been with. However we do have had a traditional upbringing

[–]henry5892 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Dude she saw fucked you on your first date on your couch.

Call a spade a spade. Don’t get oneitis now.

There’s nothing wrong with being a slut, I just wouldn’t date them long term.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lmao what? I'm talking about my older sister

[–]henry5890 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Talking about the girl in your post. :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I never said she wasnt a slut

[–]LaGardie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are contradicting if you say it is nothing wrong being something and then use the insult term of it.

[–]sanicthehedgefund1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It does not take that much skill. The boat is more important than the rowing.

[–]bizquick880 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Could you link to the snowball effect article? Very interested but couldn't find anything on his site.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]-RaisedByWolves-0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey, what’s the Heathcliff “snowball” effect thingy you were talking about?

[–]dutchgguy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this girl will want to hang out with you again. Just don't forget to set up a new "date" within the first week. You did well, and I've had such encounters and I usually think of them as the best.

[–]Gainznsuch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great field report man.

[–]DntPnicIGotThis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

you were in the zone couldn't have done it better if I tried

[–]Wrath_of_Trump0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You got a bit lucky. You still did the right shit, but having a fish fly into your boat with the intention of getting eaten is a little bit of luck.

[–]FatmanO0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

What advice would you give to a guy thats gonna be 18 in 2 days? I hope to be like you one day, just started lifting

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm no expert but the most important thing is lift, establish a good routine and stick to it. Also figure out your mission. Try to become more social, you dont need to game at all but learn how to be comfortable in social situations. The average 18 year old sucks at social interactions so look up snowballing by heathcliff, use it to become socially competent

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Stay away from incel/lookism too. Especially lookism. They project their own preferences into women. The truth of the matter is aesthetic is not always attractive for women. Sex appeal and model tier looks is not the same. You look above average and plenty good enough to succeed

[–]FatmanO0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

So I just need to approach and Im good?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes while working on your inner and other game

[–]FatmanO0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you learn inner game from trp? Guess I need confidence

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ye

[–]BradTheGymRat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Worry only about the things you CAN change, you can't grow taller so why waste all that time thinking about it? Here is the thing as well those incels don't even read or workout, all they think about is that no matter what they do they will still be shit, they are glued in one place in their life and that is rock bottom. What if i tell you women are attracted to a good body and alpha characteristics? Oh wait you already have those? What if i told you, you could bang women using those tools? Oh wait, you did. Look at some of the celebrities, some of them look like donkeys and still pull in millions and their gf's are tens. Its why the mindset of "if it was easy everyone would do it" and "love yourself" is so fucking important, do you think Peter Dinklage for example wakes up in the morning and says "oh man i wish i wasn't that short" no, that fucking dude says HEY! I'm Peter Dinklage, i can do anything! LETS GO!

[–]cl3537 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Gotta love the troll, go write for Hustler.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]Yoshiiiiiiiiii10-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He means your 10 day old account with some bs story needs to shove it back to whatever cave dwelling part of the internet you come from.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

10 day old account

I dont use my main account on TRP

bs story

It is not a bs story

[–]RandomTRPan0n4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe it. Not the craziest thing I've seen.

[–]anti_masyarakat-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have met a person considered genius in his fields. But, he denied he is genius. He explain, on the day he hit the mark. He got lucky. Since then, what he did, is repeating that luck. The sensation. The feeling. The method. The skill. He put himself in the zone, just like the day, he got lucky. Everything precisely as he do in that day. Bullseye.

[–]ppanthero-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, its that “easy“. At least if you know what to do. And you did ducking perfect. Witty, smooth, well built, took the lead. Hard to imagine that you are a virgin. 😉

[–]Rsdreddit 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nigga don't get oneitis for OP

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao

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