How to deal with nihilistic feelings?

BACONisKEWLEST · 2019-01-26T04:43:14+00:00

Go deeper. If you truly feel you’re succumbing to nihilism you have nothing to lose. You’re at the tip of the iceberg my friend. The rabbit hole goes much, much deeper. At some point you will have to take another leap, and another. After each leap, there is no turning back and you will feel like you are risking it all. Because you are. You have to tear away the veil or die. Most people get stuck here. The initial red pill is just the beginning. Good luck.

cilantromakesmepuke · 2019-01-26T04:24:51+00:00

I just remind myself every morning that I'm just a dead man walking and therefore nothing really matters. Then I go back to sleep.

GayLubeOil · 2019-01-26T06:57:57+00:00

Nihlism can only be delt with philosophically. Ride The Tiger discusses the historical causes and the Hiedeggarian solution. So you should just read that book.

[deleted] · 2019-01-26T04:46:15+00:00

Let me know when you find out dude.

I have people I love a job I love. I mentor people here and in my life.

I have a good woman and children.

It's okay but it's just life man. We just spread and die.

robtormar · 2019-01-26T04:37:06+00:00

This is the problem with taking the red pill. I know the feelings. Do you have kids? I saw a post once about a dude who had similiar thoughts and he mentioned that his kid changed his life. You can accept hedonia otherwise at least you will feel enjoyment

MrGolran · 2019-01-26T07:50:06+00:00

I don't know how this might sound but whatever here's my take on this. Money, girls, alcohol all those are external factors. Sure you can enjoy them but once you've reached the point of realization that everything is meaningless you should start giving your own meaning. Happiness comes from the inside. Depending on external factors to find joy will lead you nowhere. So what I think comes as a solution is focusing on yourself. Very cliche shit but trust me that's the way to go because once you start improving yourself you are never satisfied and now you have a purpose.

Sakarabru · 2019-01-26T08:52:57+00:00

There are no rules, only consequences.

Mickusey · 2019-01-26T15:39:37+00:00

Your assumptions about people seem overly cynical. There is true brotherhood to be found in men. There is true love and appreciation and desire to be felt with women. Never discount these; they are temporal so they might seem purposeless, but our relationships and connections with others define us more than anything.

Beyond that though I see what you mean. You’re just young and are coming to grips with adult life.

adonis_syche · 2019-01-26T09:30:49+00:00

Albert Camus is the only meaningful way out. Realize the absurdity of it all and see the absurd side of everything and illicit joy out of it. You seem like a reader to me, so reading some Albert Camus will do you good. But reading it all in chronological order would be even better, you'd relate first, acknowledge the problem later, and arrive at the key to nihilism at the very last. Camus is the only good companion in this part of town. Cheers

Edit :

Go year wise, oldest to newest

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Camus#Works

kick6 · 2019-01-26T13:47:23+00:00

You have to find your own meaning.

buddhismo_communismo · 2019-01-26T16:41:51+00:00

OP there's alot of good advice in this thread. I'll add some and consolidate others. I'll be brief.

Nihilism. It's ok and warranted that you've arrived here. Nothing in life matters. This is true. Everyone in history has to struggle with meaning in their life.
Absurdism. This is where I have arrived at. The beauty of this philosophy is acceptance of possibly being wrong. It is complementary to several praxeologies. Such as....
Secular Buddhism. I subscribe to a Materialist conception of history that denies Metaphysics as legitimate (as implied in other comments referring to Richard Dawkins et al). Great book called WHY BUDDHISM IS TRUE deals with this question in a non-dogmatic way based on evolutionary psychology. Meditation is incredibly valuable and scientifically researched.
Historical Materialism. This will help you have a grand scheme for your relation to history.
Dialectics. It's important to see the unity in opposites.
Modern Stoicism. This is useful as a Virtue Ethic. A Man's got to have a Code. This is the most rational code that I've found.

Good luck OP.

CasualPlay3r · 2019-01-26T06:33:38+00:00

Cool, you figured out how this mundane life works...

But whats beyond it? this might sound like a shitty advice but i ll say it anyways;

Go do some psychedelics, magic mushrooms and DMT. They will change your life perspective.

Believe me, that nihilism you have there wont exist anymore once you come back from your trip.

DatingTank · 2019-01-26T05:41:05+00:00

Enjoy them

christophertracy92 · 2019-01-26T11:51:35+00:00

Read the best one that fights it. Fyodor Dostoevsky. Start from the Karamazov brothers

Khiv_ · 2019-01-26T13:34:23+00:00

Existentialism: The world is meaningless which also means that it is up to you to create all meaning in the world.

ntvirtue · 2019-01-27T00:57:26+00:00

Everything on this planet with DNA is trying to kill you, eat you, fuck you and / or outcompete you.

elf_knife_love · 2019-01-26T12:15:33+00:00

If you're in the 16-24 range and the nihilism is due to a lack of internal philosophy... I'd suggest reading Camus.

Nihilism is a very good foundation for building meaning on top of, but it's horrible as your life philosophy.

Edit: Note in regards to Camus, most people recommend the Myth of Sisyphus or the Stranger... but that's more related to dealing with your mortality and morality. If you're nihilism stems from social relationships, I'd suggest reading The Plague.

Alternatively you can try the stoic method of negative visualization, but I think the plague is, among other things, a very good window into how to do that.

JGalt12 · 2019-01-26T13:05:03+00:00

Meaning. What specifically do you want to achieve? Set goals. If you already achieved your past goals set new ones. If you dont do this you will get nihilistic whether you red pilled or not. My interpretation off all red pill theory is that it attempts to provide the truth so we dont delude ourselves about the world around us. It can be very pessimistic as you going through the processes of the new way of looking of the world but after you do and accept, you fell the opposite - that this new view is not pessimistic at all but optimistic because now you know how to navigate it. That's my two cents.

wanderer779 · 2019-01-26T17:57:48+00:00

First of all there are some good people. You have to learn to keep meeting new people and culling the bad ones. Most people keep letting bad people back into their lives after they've been fucked over. Keeping your enemies close is a rule for those you can't escape from, like work colleagues. In your private life you can just get rid of 'em.

As for the fact that most people suck, get over it. It's like being mad cause the weather usually sucks, that's part of life. Learn to accept things the way they are.

Find a few good people and help them out when they need it and they'll probably help you when you need it. If they don't you know what to do.

Melanoma_man · 2019-01-26T20:49:43+00:00

Keep your mind occupied. When I’m at home after work with none of my plates, this will the the only time during the day I’m alone, so I’ll read or listen to audiobooks books whilst doing press ups to avoid intrusive thoughts.

TheGillos · 2019-01-26T06:33:25+00:00

Religion

MrBowlfish · 2019-01-26T06:26:38+00:00

You just keep going.

GetMeLaidAlot · 2019-01-26T07:18:03+00:00

Occultism, Hermeticism, Dream Analysis, and understanding the dichotomy of pain and pleasure.

Driekout · 2019-01-26T07:28:47+00:00

Honestly this is the most introspective comment I’ve seen in awhile, pm me

[deleted] · 2019-01-26T12:41:56+00:00

go do something shitty like taking an ice bath or running sprints. that’s how you deal

letny · 2019-01-26T18:41:18+00:00

anusbleach11111 · 2019-01-26T20:03:42+00:00

Like the other user said, religion. I know religion is often shut down on reddit, but let me elaborate. Prior to finding religion I was dealing with nihilism and existentialism and I had no motivation to do anything that didn’t benefit me. I was following a life path that was selfish and was catered to my desires which were rooted in greed and lust. When you follow and feed those desires, you only crave more and more and become a legitimate junkie in a sense.

Ask yourself, is a lot of what you do rooted in greed and lust? And do you think it’s a coincidence that you’re feeling how your feeling now yet those 2 desires are condemned by all religious groups worldwide?

Religion taught me nothing in this life matters cause it’s all about the next life. However, this life is a test and God gave us rules to follow so that we can enjoy this life and be allowed entry to the next one. I can obviously go on but that’s the jist of how religion overcomes that feeing of existential despair. It causes you to wake and walk with a purpose in this life, not just to eat shit and fuck.

Go to a synagogue, church, mosque and just participate in their services for a day, something might click inside you.

nexther · 2019-01-26T21:39:07+00:00

What do you want from life, what are your goals? Do what it takes to achieve them.

Shredderick420 · 2019-01-26T22:27:45+00:00

I can relate with your story, but more in a existential way

luccisanolean · 2019-01-26T22:47:33+00:00

read AYN RAND

[deleted] · 2019-03-25T19:11:50+00:00

Is the Tolstoy book literally called "Confessions" or "A Confession"? I actually want to read that now.

Hadi_Hazman · 2019-01-26T08:15:58+00:00

I used red pill theory just to avoid women cheats and from being victim of their game. I still hold my religious belief and not doing free sexs etc.

0io- · 2019-01-26T08:34:42+00:00

There's lots of beauty and fun to be had in life. Don't focus on things that make you depressed or angry. People get upset when they find out the Disney Fantasy isn't real, but you can't dwell on that. Find stuff that you're good at that you enjoy doing and fill up your time with those activities. Eventually people envy you because you bang women and you seem to be enjoying life. Get in good physical health and your mental health ought to come along for the ride. There's a million things to do out there in the world, figure out which thing appeals to you and then go do that for a while.

It's not my thing per se, but a lot of people swear by meditation. You need to clear your head of bullshit and find stuff that you think is worthwhile to overcome nihilism.

[deleted] · 2019-01-26T09:07:57+00:00

What you are describing is a kind of a deep selfishness human nature (or not?) You should read the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins and you will suddenly feel at ease with this and with your own nature

Warning: this book is not pure from ideology

Velebit · 2019-01-26T11:10:59+00:00

You have been brought up with metaphysical values. Abrahamic faiths and various blue aspects of our culture rely on metaphysics. Metaphysics are everything that is not tangible, real, present in natural world etc. Things like freedom, equality, purity etc...

Those things are not really present, they are tools humans invented to decrease the stylistic ugliness of life. This is also what belies things that are the logical extremes of blue thinking like veganism (metaphysical lie of equality and dignity that includes not merely all human units but all animal units).

Since you as a higher functioning and thinking human need structure to organize your thoughts, I will give you the only thing that is both logical and truthful.

You can call it ubernihilism (beyond nothingness). Rejection of metaphysics in a deliberate and genuine way. This does not mean lack of ethics or direction. Just refocus on real values not invented ones.

MERITORACY

LOYALTY

TRUTH

Those are good foundational values that combat the current metaphysical lies that hide in silly notions of equality, universalist liberty and bowing down to emotions. Some may say that what I am bringing up are merely ancient pagan ideas of masculinity against idealistic femininity but that is not so simple as the metaphysics, its philosophers and people who voted, fought and died for them were mostly men. It was (incredibly hypocritical) men who wrote the most famous lie 'all men are created equal'.

There are other. But there is a clear mission that comes out of these 3.

There is little room for invididualistic hedonism if you want to be honest with yourself, loyal person/citizen and grow through merit and surround yourself with only the highest quality of people. There is also the need to combat with bloody violence everything based on explict metaphysics. For they are your enemy, they hate you for speaking the truth. There is also realization that we are biodetermined and that our perception of personhood (of us being present) is merely an illusion created by working of our genes and various degrees to which genes are expressing themselves inside our body. We are genes. We die when our genes die. That 10/10 steroided up hedonist bachelor banging models despite being 46... he is not a success. He is the archetypical failure. He contributed nothing, he is dead (genetically as that is all that matters), he has no purpose, no mission, he is arriving nowhere, he is meaningless, he is subversive to society and if you want to be especially blackpilled, he is usefull to collective only as an infection that is destroying shitgenes (vulrnerable and mentally weak females who are like that for biodetermined reasons).

To become an overman you first have to declare war on normie world in your own head and be willing to allow nasty emotions that normies try to surpress to be a part of your mental ecosystem, not something you despise and avoid but something you cherish. Hate is horribly misunderstood emotion.

CheesyStravinsky · 2019-01-26T08:18:18+00:00

Hedonism is the way to go.

OfficerWade · 2019-01-26T05:32:33+00:00

Are you Woke or just another slave? There’s two sides to the game.

A man who plays by the rules living his life the way it’s meant to be- albeit blue pill and he’s never really grown up. Playing with children’s toys.

Or you decide to take Jesus hand and go a different way. One that says you have to leave this games behind for a while and step out of the sandbox. These are the only choices we have. Just be careful who you get your game from