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How I fucked up online (self.askMRP)

submitted by FoxShitNasty83

So here goes my little fucked up tale of woe.

Wife isn't fucking me, been years coming up to 5. I have gained confidence talking to everyone. Started chatting up a woman online (stupid) via tinder... Transpires she is new to the area and literally moved in 2 doors down. (I wish that was a joke)

My wife talks to everyone... I can imagine it now... "Yeah I have already met your husband on a dating app"

And that gents is how you really fuck it up. So my option here is plain and simple if confronted I simply have to "own it" and take it on the chin. I'm not a troll but I think I'm fucked?


[–]nantucketghost35 points36 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Why do you care? You don't have a marriage, you have a room mate.

If you wife finds out, just tell her you were seeing what options were out there for you because if your marriage didn't fix by the end of the year then you were going to leave her.

Or leave her.

I don't see what's keeping you there and not going two door down.

Lose weight, get in shape, lift, find a better job. Own your own shit. Delete the app and remove your profile. Tell your wife it's time for a change. Don't wait. Tell her tonight.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

““You don't have a marriage, you have a room mate.”

The State would disagree.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The hottie at number 9 advised that I divorce before starting a new relationship so I am not accused of adultery... Banging up a law student might actually help me

[–]SuperCrazy075 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You don’t actually learn anything practical in law school. I learned more practical stuff in the 6 week bar review class after graduation than I did as a student.

The girl is probably thinking of the case X v. Y from a 17th century case in England that no one who practices divorce law today knows about.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“You don’t actually learn anything practical in law school.”

Same with engineering and medical school. It’s everything.

However,

NEVER break Kayfab. Look it up.

Law 38: think as you like but behave like others.

[–]Kpwn8814 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't the Byzantine Empire. Adultry won't change a divorce proceeding these days. The man is fucked fucked if he cheats, the man is still fucked if she cheats. If you file for divorce you will be the bad guy. If she files for divorce.. guess what? You are still the bad guy.

"The hottie at number 9" already has you in her frame? God you are pathetic.

Get this shit through your thick skull: READ THE SIDEBAR AND LIFT, FAGGOT!

[–]BigB19010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well put

[–]PersaeusRed Beret14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

let me get this straight, you're chatting her on Tinder. she knows your married; and now you find out she lives down the street?

do you always punch the gift horse in the mouth like this?

"Yeah I have already met your husband on a dating app"

uh yeah, that is not going to happen. loss of social proof for her for one. two, bitches loving secretly having the upper hand on other bitches.

this is so perfect. "honey i'm going down the road for a walk". slips in the neighbor for some cock. wtf are you waiting for?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hahaha there's the silver lining :)

Made me chuckle, thanks for the laugh. Following everyone's feedback I'm chilled out more, this post was a stupid knee jerk reaction. Typical nice guy shitting his pants cos mommy might get upset. What the fuck, it's my own mentality holding me back.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Made me chuckle, thanks for the laugh.

He wasn't joking.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

”...but I think I’m fucked.”

Well, I sure hope so because it’s about time. It’s been 5 long years man. If you divorce it wasn’t because of this incident. It was because of the five years preceding it. Own it.

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret14 points15 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Handled properly (with frame and narrative), such a confrontation would be a "teachable moment" for you to express your vision for, and expectations in, a good marriage. Here's a narrative I suggested to u/prarrott, who is christian; u/weakandsensitive has often suggested the narratives "What did you expect?" and "it's about sex, not love."

Craft your narrative that is congruent with your actions and frame, carry on boldly, and assertively own it with your narrative if challenged. You've got your reasons, and they're good reasons (or should be) within your frame; stand up for them, and yourself, without apology!

[–]3legsbetter5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yo /u/FoxShitNasty83 I've been following your OYS posts for a while, and I think this one's the best answer, if the shit goes down.

Honestly this aMRP post reads as you having a bit of a panic attack. I give it 10:1 odds your housemate never finds out. Laugh about it with the tinder lass, continue gaming her or don't, your call.

And I guess consider this a lesson in online OPSEC.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I like this approach and I read that narrative I will think this over and come up with my own. Ultimately I'm certain she won't turn round it's not just the sex its much more. This is on me, I caused this it's my fault she isn't fucking me but at least this way I can start doing things on my own terms and key to this is holding frame.

[–]hystericalbonding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I will think this over and come up with recognize my own

My favorite time for this kind of mental masturbation was during my post-workout snack.

I don't miss the anger phase. I don't miss the fear. I don't miss trying to insulate my wife from the worst parts of me.

These kinds of conversations can't be rehearsed or scripted, unless she will decide to wilfully accept obvious bullshit. Know yourself. Be clear to yourself and to her about your future actions - not some bullshit about what you want, but what you are going to do.

/u/weakandsensitive's approach is the right one, if you've got the frame for it.

[–]WesternhagenWinner1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are not going to do things on your own terms while you are still handcuffed to the corpse of your marriage.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I got married because I wanted to spend my life with a woman who got me understood me and had the same desire for living life to the full. A number of times I have brought up that intimacy is a non negotiable need for me. You have shown me through your actions that you have no desire to meet my needs even on a basic level and have abandoned our marriage. A relationship should be give and take on both sides but I have nothing left to give... my pot is empty. I'm my eyes this is not the marriage i had dreamt of we are just roommates looking after kids. It is now up to you to show me through your actions that you wish to recommit to our marriage and I will happily do the same.

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There's not much vision or narrative here. This statement criticizes her "intimate" (non-)performance and says that you feel abandoned in the marriage, but it doesn't give me or her any clear idea of what the positive marital relationship you desire actually looks like, or your more explicit expectations and boundaries from a "recommitment." Also, the use of only vague phrasings like "intimacy", "meet my needs", and "recommit to our marriage" makes you sound like a beta who's afraid to openly express his sexuality and his expectations, and who thus probably can be gaslit, or thrown a few scraps followed by backsliding.

It would be much better to paint a positive, broader vision of a good marital relationship that includes sex as an intregral part, but with other appealing components as well, embedded in a narrative that more explicitly lays out a path forward to achieve this vision and your expectations of her.

You can and should do better.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cheers, I fucking will do better thanks for the feedback

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Life is busy, the kids, work, dog, the mess, the bills, the garden, the hobbies… did I mention the boys... it feels like I left a lot out. You are like a whirlwind… we move house, we have made a family and supported our own families through a multitude of shit. You are so hyper organised I forget that you do it all for us. I am proud of what we have achieved together and yet we do more and more and more we ask a lot of us. We are not the type of family to be lazy we live life and I am proud of what we have achieved. I am proud of you. I cannot and won't hide it any more, I am a man and I have sexual needs and desires. I need a woman in my life that wants sex it is a basic need that I won't deny myself. I need a woman who isn't afraid to get undressed in the same room. Last time we argued you told me you “weren't good enough”…. Well you fucking are good enough more so, Let's have date nights where we go out and have fun again rather than separately. I know your not happy leaving the kids and I know you are tired but we need to invest in our marriage, in each other and rebuild together. I know there is more to life than sex but sex is the glue that binds without it we are just roommates looking after kids.

[–]man_in_the_worldRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Life is busy, the kids, work, dog, the mess, the bills, the garden, the hobbies… did I mention the boys... it feels like I left a lot out. You are like a whirlwind… we move house, we have made a family and supported our own families through a multitude of shit. You are so hyper organised I forget that you do it all for us. I am proud of what we have achieved together and yet we do more and more and more we ask a lot of us. We are not the type of family to be lazy we live life and I am proud of what we have achieved.

TL;DR: You busy woman. We busy family.

I am proud of you.

TL;DR: Random affirmation.

I cannot and won't hide it any more, I am a man and I have sexual needs and desires. I need a woman in my life that wants sex it is a basic need that I won't deny myself. I need a woman who isn't afraid to get undressed in the same room. Last time we argued you told me you “weren't good enough”…. Well you fucking are good enough

TL;DR: I want more sex with you.

Let's have date nights where we go out and have fun again rather than separately. I know your not happy leaving the kids and I know you are tired but we need to invest in our marriage, in each other and rebuild together.

TL;DR: Let's have date nights (and maybe something unclear might happen???)

I know there is more to life than sex but sex is the glue that binds without it we are just roommates looking after kids.

TL;DR: sex = not just roommates.

Still incoherent, not a clear vision or narrative, and no clarity on your expectations or boundaries regarding sex. (Merely joining you for date night is sufficient?)

You still seem to be missing the concept. Here's a comment with links to more effective use of vision and narrative.

Keep trying; this is an important skill for successful leadership!

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I will keep trying thanks.

My wife is a great mum and she is lacking as a wife. She treats me like shit and whenever I challenge the shitty behaviour the nukes come out and it's all my fault. I know that she is a reflection of me and it's down to me to improve and lead. There is a lot of anger in her. Its a big ol' mountain to climb... I have the tools

[–]BobbyPeru20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Simple, remove your profile pic and hope she doesn’t have a copy of the pic. Not sure what this has to do with MRP other than you’re married and put yourself in a bad spot. Perhaps this is more suited for deadbedrooms

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You give too many fucks.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Solid answer, yes I do. And I should not give a fuck.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Look, you should always give a single fuck. You need to give less of them though.

Yes, you suck. Yes, you are dancing along with the monkeys. My view is that you think that you're ready for Tinderellas but really you haven't unfucked yourself yet. I see it in your writing. Your DEERing. The fact that you're not your own mental point of origin. Your lack of frame, which is dread level 1. The thing that you need to do is become attractive to all women. And you're not there yet at all. On top of that, you haven't fixed yourself mentally yet. That is what really will get you in the end, and that's why people are comparing you to Steve.

You need to do more work. Also, some great answers in this thread are from u/man_in_the_world and u/Countpudyoola . Review them.

And let me ask you the same question I've asked you already. Are you still a female dog?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I am, but I don't want to be.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you, I read Rollo's blog on mental point of origin and I can see what your saying. I am a bitch, my wife is my central point of origin I do things and make changes then check to see how she reacts or worry about her reaction. The mental turnaround needs to be that I am my own central point the reality is that she dosent matter.... But as you say I do need to give one single fuck but that's all.

[–]RedPillCoach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would save that one single fuck for the person who is fucking you.

[–]hack3ge8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Simple solution - fuck them both.

Fuck the tinderella literally, fuck your wife figuratively.

Or you just continue your history of not owning your shit...

[–]470_2_700_nm16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You fucked up along time ago by not fucking for 4 years because your wife decided you were a repulsive pussy.

I bet your testosterone is extremely low. Go fuck some strange - stop pretending on tinder.

You fuck woman by actually gaming them not with your phone.

[–]BigAjax8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How much lower do things have to get for you before you decide to actually make yourself your own mental point of origin and start living a life that's rewarding to you? This is gross. Not the part where you're using tinder to trying to get some strange. That sounds like a step in the right direction. What's nauseating is the part where you're living in an escape-proof self-made prison that has no actual bars or walls, just the threat of some sexless harpy leaving you (being angry at you, etc) as what's keeping you locked up and turning you into an anxious, sweaty mess. At this point, how could you even care if she found out? You ask if you're fucked. Buddy, if you hadn't figured that out before this episode, you're not gonna learn the right lesson from this.

Look, hamster away all you want about why you're staying, but the truth is that you're desperate for your wife's validation and you can't stand the idea that you might have to take the L and say that this bitch never came around for you. That's a hard fucking thing for a lot of guys to take, but it's really nothing but ego and it's going to leave you flushing your life down the goddamn toilet.

[–]framelessglasses5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What are you fucking up? Let's see.......

She's might stop screwing you. (Laugh, that's funny)

She might start screwing you, since you weren't getting results with your prior behavior.

You could hit the jackpot, and she divorces you.

What are you worried about????????

[–]Reach180Red Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You come in here looking to be shit on. It's like your version of putting on a hair shirt.

You declare yourself a pussy retard fuck up, and then you thank everybody in measures proportional to how mean spirited and abusive their post is. "Thanks mate, that's exactly what I need." Exactly what you need for what? I suspect you've been hearing that about yourself, and believing that about yourself, for as long as you can remember.

This is your frame. You're an unattractive pussy retard fuck-up who doesn't deserve any better. And every time you can come on here and confirm for yourself that everyone agrees you're a pussy retard fuck-up, you feel a little better. 'I might be an unattractive pussy retard fuck-up, but at least I'm self aware'. Fuck that. You will not make any real progress until you can change this frame.

I hate to recommend this, because I think Mike Cernovich is a joke....but have you read Gorilla Mindset? Regardless of what I or anyone else think of Cernovich, he bought into himself and made himself into exactly what he wants to be. You've got to figure out how to buy into yourself.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes you are correct, I have conditioned myself into a negative frame and a I'm a fuck up mindset. This does need to change, I havent read gorilla mindset and I will look it up.

I have been more aware of frame and consciously make an effort to get into a positive cocky fun mindset and it has reaped rewards and more self confidence. I handled this badly, I didn't need to panic and make this post I should have known to sleep on it and give less fucks.

I must focus on me and handle my emotions better.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

I see what your saying, I suspect if I said "hey as your not fucking me I'm off out to fuck someone else" she would most likely lose her shit and tell me I can't or divorce rape me for adultery if I did.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I have got advice from two, I get the impression this won't work in my favour... I'm in uk

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

True

[–]robertwservice19742 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In crisis there is opportunity: Tinder just handed you the keys to your own prison.

Stop hiding like u/Rian_Stone says and craft the narrative mitw suggests. In other words, go on the offense and tell her on your terms before she finds out on her own. That way, you’ll be in control of the timing and narrative.

Best of luck.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]gameoflibidos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And this was not the advise you expected? Of course you are going to be screwed in a divorce.

YOU married her... YOU turned into a retarded pussy that caused you to be so unattractive your wife wouldn't touch you for 5 years... YOU got on a dating app.... these were all your choices... you are still making choices. At some point you have to start making the correct ones, own them and turn shit around.

You of course WILL pay for your previously poor decisions.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Simple. Tell your wife that you'll no longer have your sex life held hostage and that you created a Tinder account. You're just looking for sex, you'll take all the necessary precautions to ensure that you don't impregnate anyone, and you'll be as discreet as possible to prevent any embarrassment on her end.

This battle was going to come eventually. Fight it on your own terms.

[–]mindfulbutgutlessRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This battle was going to come eventually. Fight it on your own terms.

this is an often overlooked point. It is far better to walk into a fight, than to be dragged into one. Even if you know your gonna get your ass kicked. It's called frame.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Used your real name?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Nope, but she clocked me when I walked the dog

[–]redismyfuture5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What does this even mean? Tinderella punched you or she timed you walking the dog?

[–]ParaXilo7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably recognized his profile pic cause it was a full face shot.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Today I learned UK slang - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Clocked

[–]mattizie3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

5 years? Damn mate, why aren't you at dread level 11 (or 12) by now?

[–]mindfulbutgutlessRed Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fear

[–]DeplorableRay6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why didn't you just tell your wife you're going to find someone else to fuck instead of sneaking around? I never understood this.

[–]SuperCrazy071 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why don’t you just divorce her? Telling her you’re fucking around seems like it opens the door for her to make the first move and maybe be a step ahead.

[–]DeplorableRay1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Who cares if she’s a step ahead? You want to fuck and she isn’t. She’s probably fucking another dude anyways. Nothing she does should matter to you.

[–]SuperCrazy070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I guess you'd have to ask someone who has gotten a divorce, but I know that if I wanted one, I'd want to have my shit squared away and an attorney.

I mean, maybe if you have no assets or kids it doesn't matter. Every guy I know that got a divorce already got screwed financially...giving her a heads up to move money and make a false domestic violence claim isn't going to help.

[–]ozfish832 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude do you not know how many matches girls get on tinder, the odds of her even remembering your name if you only chatted online once or twice are so fucking low.

Next time don't use tinder so close to your house, it's for business trips only.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are not owning your shit.

Start with this shit.

And after 5 years... I guess since you put up with nothing she'll assume you'll put up with somehow feeling guilty you are seeking your need elsewhere? Why care?

Have a frame, map and plan? On a long journey this could be the latter part of it if she doesn't start responding to true increases in your SMV...hence why it's at the top of the ladder. Sounds like you are trying to lazily skip everything in between, start over and just hope the next chick likes "who you are now"... see where the million problems are? Hilarious.

If you were just trying to blow your wad then you wouldn't be on a dating app. You're trying to get your love/validation feels. How the hell is that a self improvement? Be sad that you needed that before you fixed the rest of you, had a map , frame ...exit plan, etc.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brother Fox, you haven't fucked up. It is the universe intervening trying to tell you it is time you do start giving a shit that mrs. Fox isn't coming to the party.

Be prepared and willing to divorce if you play outside the marriage. It is not a game of half meusures.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm fucked

The only reason you are fucked is because even if you wanted to fuck Tinderella - or anyone else, including your wife - you can't, because five years ago, you castrated yourself, handed your balls over to your wife and you aren't man enough to take them back.

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You seem like a decent fella but really, all I see for you - unless you can do a massive mental u-turn - is the next Steve McQueen.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No not Steve!!!

That's exactly where I don't want to be, I don't want to burn this shit down only for it to repeat itself. That's not what I want.

[–]Kpwn882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No not Steve!!!

Yes, Steve.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I need to understand what that mental u turn looks like. At the moment, I'll be honest. I don't know, stfu lift and sidebar stay the course.

[–]mindfulbutgutlessRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I need to understand what that mental u turn looks like

you can start by living in the now, not in the hypothetical.

I can imagine it now

Fuck your imagination. Are you certain that she will out you to your wife? your time to be Chad or a Chode.

stay the course

I might in the minority but I actually think you need to change it up a bit. "The course" hasn't done much. You seem to be too patient, if you want something you have to take it, otherwise you are just waiting for someone's leftovers

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The mental turnaround starts when you decide that you are going to be a man. That's where it starts. You start thinking like a man, acting like a man, being a man.

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That means having goals, a mission and a map. Dedicating your life to your mission.

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It means being in control of your life - in control of your finances, in control of your emotions, in control of your mental well being, in control of your physical well being and always controlling the frame and the narrative.

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It means taking charge, leading and being dominant.

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It means setting the tone in every aspect of your life.

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It means having a rock solid frame - nothing can break you, phase you or sway you.. you are living your life exactly how you choose to.

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You're a man and you're living your life in fear - terrified of what your wife might say or do if you decided to show her what you really want, terrified to live your life the way you want to and probably even too scared to decide how you want to live your life in case your wife doesn't like it.

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You're a scared little boy, afraid of what mammy might say.

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And do you know what the stupidest thing is? She fucking knows this. That's why she's kept your balls in her purse for the last five years. SHe knows your too scared of her to man up and too scared of her to take your balls back.

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TBH, it's fucking pathetic.

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[–]gameoflibidos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

FIRST.. you need to accept that everything that has happened to this point and the resulting fallout to fixing it is all of your creation. It's all your fault, all your decisions. Expecting to somehow fix yourself in any fast manner and having any expectation that it will solve your marriage is not realistic, ....5 years is a long time.

Once that settles in... then yes, stfu, lift and sidebar for awhile. Like a long while. Your first frame test will come when she starts questioning why you are going to the gym and telling you she doesn't like muscles anyway so she still wont touch you and you are wasting your time.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Interior Scene: FoxShitNasty83's wife enters a small, dark flat, suburban London. Fox is sitting at the kitchen table, absently eating cold cereal.

Wife: I want a divorce.

Fox: No! We're so good together, we can make it work, I'll change, please, anything!

Wife: No, it's over. I haven't loved you for years, and I've found someone else.

Now, FOX: fill in the rest of the script. Does it end with you being born from the ashes, courageous, ready to start a new life without doubt? Achieving what you want, getting what you want from life? Or does it end with you crushed, ashamed, defeated, swinging from the rafters in the car park?

[–]TheThirdT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How did you fuck up? This could good be a great catalyst for change. Why are you worried about losing your wife and why isnt your wife worried about losing you?

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a Lifetime tm movie. Maybe she moved in 2 houses down, thought you were cute, found you on tinder, friended you, started chatting, setting you up, and now about to blackmail your ass.

Why isn’t your wife fucking you?

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because I assume I'm not attractive, working on that

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now I remember you. You were the faggot asking about how to get rid of the need for sex. That was really gay.

Had to be the lowest point of your pathetic existence.

Your wife blames her lack of sex on her hormones.

Dude, it’s okay to want to Fuck. Straight men need sex. Lots of it. Dump that frigid bitch and start living your life. Your dick never got wet in 4 years! Wtf.

[–]redwall920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You write your post like my elementary school-aged son telling me about a screw-up he did yesterday and asking me if I still love and accept him. His mother and I are my son's main point of reference; it's normal for 10 year-olds to see their parents as their main point of reference.

You see ... as they get older, like my 12 year old and my 15 year old before him, I find myself asking my child questions to see what he thinks ... to see how he thinks ... to get him to be his own point of reference. It's a tough growing process to make a break from the Mother or the Father and to find one's way into making decisions while you are your own point of reference. My 15 year old seems well on his way. The 12 year old has a ways to go - which is expected at 12.

You do you, man. Doesn't matter if I approve does it? Are you looking for mod approval for your actions? Your wife, still?

You left your balls somewhere. Seems like you split them up and gave one to your wife and the other to the sub here...

How old are you?

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Own it. It’s all you can do. Tell her you’re not happy and you’re looking. Balls in her court.

You’ve been lifting right? What are your stats? What dread level are you on? How has she been responding to you getting in shape and living RP?

I can guarantee your wife has had sex in the past few years.

[–]FoxShitNasty83[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She has responded by burying her head in the sand by getting angry that I'm out of the house. Her friends comment how I look good in front of her and that the beard suits me. Getting depressed because she is losing control of me and angry at the kids. Getting sick with some weird autoimmune problem that makes her joints and thiroid swell. Getting fat eating cookies and telling family and friends that my changes are a midlife crisis. Getting lazy around the house so I have to own even more shit. Going batshit crazy when I try and lead and outright powerplays in the opposite direction. I arrange for us to go out and sort babysitters only for her to refuse them so I end up going out either by myself or with friends. I know I have gone from being dad bod fat to "normal" and that's not enough. I want and need to surplus and start building quality lean muscle. This shit is hard, my own mentality is a big stumbling block that needs to be fixed. I still fear her anger but it has lessened since I switched from STFU to AA and that's really helping me by exposing myself to her rages so I fear them less.

Being critical of myself yes I'm still needy for sex and validation. I still care too much about what she thinks.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why exactly do you think you are fucked when the only time you are fucked is when you get caught posting on Tinder?

Sounds to me like your no-sex marriage is about to go through some changes.

Is it good or bad? I don't know. But if you're already fucked who cares? And if you are not getting fucked, how can you be fucked?

So confused.

The obvious solution if you are already in for a penny is to go for the whole pound.

Plate the Tinder mom next door!

[–]framelessglasses0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's the elephant with a little tether chain on his leg, that holds him captive.

[–]ParaXilo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Easiest option would be to go fuck the next door chick.

What's keeping you in the marriage? Divorce rape?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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