I dont understand

Rian_Stone · 2018-04-18T13:15:53+00:00

OP can check out /r/purplepilldebate if he wants to jerk himself off and get an audience for it.

Sidebar reading, TRP/MRP. If you have specific questions, or can provide value beyond what is there, please do. Take a few days and figure out which way you're going on this.

Also, I doubt you are army, if you were, you'd have been surrounded by the worst examples of women and men, and not in your fantasy world now.

CaptJohnLukeDiscard · 2018-04-17T16:26:15+00:00

When I was four years out from college baseball, I would have asked the same question. I was still in 'decent' shape but was getting fatter every year. I still got laid like tile but it was diminishing every year. I wouldn't have considered any of this stuff to be reasonable or accurate.

Fast forward about a decade. I kept getting fatter. I started getting lazier re household stuff. I paid less attention to how I dressed. I basically became a lazy slob... a beta. And guess what? My wife still "loved" me but I didn't get laid like tile any more. We started to argue about sex, passion, why she didn't feel the same 'feelz' that she used to... etc.

That's what drove me here. Now that I've been here a little more than a year, I can report that I've gotten in much better shape, owned the finances, owned the household stuff, and am captaining with a clear vision.

And after implementing all this "hardcore change" into our relationship, my wife is 100x happier. That wasn't the goal... but it is a nice side effect.

So to answer your question, I would suggest you look at your current trajectory and see if you could possibly fall into what I fell into. Keep in mind that of all the people on "My 600lb Life", every single one of them got fat the same way... one pound at a time. Going from alpha to beta is the same way. Going from "great marriage!" to "why won't she put out with a smile on her face anymore?" is the same way (most of the time).

Think about it.

SeamusAwl · 2018-04-17T16:30:33+00:00

I understand every marriage has a different dynamic but applying some of this advice would surely be suicide to their relationship for some right?

It would seem that way. My life is much much better because of it, and my marriage is stronger than ever. My biggest take way is that being a man is a shit ton better than being a manchild.

maybe my marriage just isnt at a point where changes like this would help any?

Its not for your marriage. It is for you to improve your life and get the most out of it with or without your wife. Yes, the point is to get more sex (preferably with your wife). But it enhances sooo much more than just your bedroom.

ReddJive · 2018-04-17T16:52:23+00:00

i see lots of advice given and im wondering does this work for people?

Yes and it has for centuries. For my own personal experiences I knew PUAs before they became a thing. In college my roommate was 100% a PUA. He did everything that is talked about for much the same reasons. This remember was even before Mystery and all that became a thing. Not to mention my own upbringing that I completely ignored.

I understand every marriage has a different dynamic but applying some of this advice would surely be suicide to their relationship for some right?

No. If your marriage blows up due to red pill it likely wasn't going to survive at all any how. Generally speaking most men have women that want to be there. It's just a matter of bringing he woman along. Or allowing her time to adjust to the new you. Some guys aren't willing to wait and blow it up early or...go Rambo.

Then there are the few that did have the wrong one to begin with and no amount of red, green, orange pill is going to change that.

Not being an ass im truley curious, maybe my marriage just isnt at a point where changes like this would help any?

now we get to the point of your question. You value your marriage. You like her. You make mention of your fitness level. Why? To lower yourself to us? Why was that detail even important to bring up? See we reveal a lot about ourselves when we write and we have no frame.

there's more going on here and you are testing the waters. I was like that. I spent a lot of time in DBR. Saw the sidebar where it warned me to stay away from Red Pill. So yeah...I went. I was like DUFUQ? These guys are nuts. But as the weeks went on I learned more and more. I saw what would work and wouldn't

MRP is a tool box. Not everything is going to apply AND more importantly it's about finding your masculinity. Not about your marriage at all. There a couple guys here that came to MRP not because of sex or women at all. For other areas of their life where they realized that they were in opposition to what a man should be.

At best you are what they call a Sigma. You and no one else can explain why you function as a man. There is some mystical energy that surrounds Sigmas. They get hot women. have seemingly productive lives and live completely in there frame. Yet the one characteristic of Sigmas is that they truly DGAF. To a fault even.

At worse you are a beta who is touching his toe in the water. Looking for some welcoming arms to bring you into the fold and make you realize what you are missing.

Been skimming some red pill material for awhile and i just don't understand

You have no reason to commit and no reason to examine yourself.

dcapt46 · 2018-04-17T20:35:29+00:00

Lift. Be more Social. Get Shit Done. Have a mission and work towards it. This is hardcore shit.

Sepean · 2018-04-17T17:42:11+00:00

Went from dead bedroom on the brink of divorce to daily blowjobs. This shit works.

MrChad_Thundercock · 2018-04-17T16:15:46+00:00

“is im honestly curious as to WHY i see so many people diving headfirst into such hardcore changes in their relationship”

Because most of us from dead bedrooms were tired of not getting any pussy.

2ndal · 2018-04-17T16:15:14+00:00

Been skimming some red pill material for awhile and i just dont understand.

there's your problem. stop skimming, fuck head, and apply yourself.

you found yourself here for a reason. only you can decide how or even if you need to improve yourself or your relationship. no need to stick around if not.

FlyingSexistPig · 2018-04-18T00:40:46+00:00

You don't have to be super dominant all the time. But when it's time to make the hard decision, you have to make it.

One of the big problems with men today, and I use that term loosely, is that they bought into the lie that men and women are equal in every way except the shape of their genitals.

In the matrix movie, you can take the blue pill and stay in fantasy land. The fantasy land is the land where men and women are identical except for their genitals. The red pill is coming to the realization that men and women do different things. Different factors drive mens' decisions than drive womens' decisions.

So, if you're being "the man" in your relationship, then you probably don't need to change anything.

I knew one old couple (80+ years old). She would write the checks to pay the bills, but he had to sign them. It was too much stress for her to deal with actually signing the check, and so she relied on him to do it. She had no problems organizing information and preparing it for him, but he had to be the one to sign the check.

MrChad_Thundercock · 2018-04-17T17:56:53+00:00

what i'm hearing is this: "this stuff seems like dynamite. i'm not sure i should be playing with it."

son, marriage is the dynamite. this is simply how you handle it.

bumholebruiser · 2018-04-17T16:16:27+00:00

Clearly you’re not drowning. Good for you. But for those who have tried every other approach and are still sinking, I’m sure they’re thinking: “hmmm, haven’t tried this “man-up” approach yet; what’s the worst that could happen? Either I’ll keep sinking and will eventually abandon this ship (I.e., this marriage) anyway, or something will change.”

Taipanshimshon · 2018-04-17T16:55:52+00:00

WHY are YOU here?

broneilbro · 2018-04-17T17:02:54+00:00

I'll say I'm still growing but definitely seen changes in my attitude at work, in the gym, and overall life.

You cannot Rambo in, nor can you just put the tip in. You have to commit, make course corrections and work from there. It is difficult and the change is noticeable but it's better.

Today I did 10 to 1 rep sets of 185. It's not much but I was PR 185 before RP. I'm sitting at max 315 with goals of 400+ before I get back.

Would I have done that without RP prob not. Would I still be a fat(ter) bitch? Yup. Would I be less assertive, yup. And the list can go.

Note: I'm not where I want to be but I know where I need to go based of the blunt guidance from these gents.

[deleted] · 2018-04-17T17:08:21+00:00

Pretty sure it's clear you don't jump to the last rung on the dread ladder without moving up slowly and stopping where you need.

RP is just a tool set. Some people need an entire toptul 7 drawer trolley as they've got nothing. Other guys just needed to borrow a 10mm socket and then fuck off. So not every tool fits every situation.

IOW You don't read long posts about the success stories from the guys who come in... need a little work/shift, change for the better and find their happiness again and move along.

And if you come in from a bad place, it generally takes a lot of victim puking, soul punching from the vets, and publicly flailing around until something shakes out. Plus, some people just get it quicker than others and it depends.

So really, if one needs a few tweaks. What's there to really talk about?

And every g-d man in society could learn to apply STFU properly and enjoy his day a little better.

gameoflibidos · 2018-04-17T17:53:19+00:00

How old are you, how long you been married, any kids?

Typically things slow down a bit right after marriage but still o.k. Then a kid... things really slow down... and then another kid and things almost stop... then 7 years in with 2 kids theres almost no sex and shes probably cheating on you.

That's the typical path of the sinking beta.

DanG3 · 2018-04-17T20:08:51+00:00

“Me and my wife have arguments over some of the stuff you guys discuss every day ...”

The trapper never “argues” with the prey as to the type of trap or bait the prey prefers.

DeeMooreDeeMarriet · 2018-04-18T03:35:36+00:00

That was a super duper super post. Just super. Woman.

DeeMooreDeeMarriet · 2018-04-18T03:43:38+00:00

Read thru them all. Don't know how you guys don't know this is a troll.

RedPillCoach · 2018-04-17T22:32:08+00:00

does this work for people

Yes, especially in a dead bedrooms marriage. Later you have to change it up and provide more good feelz but starting out in a DB, yes, you have to do this and make dramatic changes to your relationship.

applying some of this advice would surely be suicide to their relationship for some

100% correct. MRP can be giving Dynamite to Children. You have to choose the advice that works for you and your relationship and nobody knows it all. This is not the Ms. Advice column or Ann Landers.

maybe my marriage just isnt at a point where changes like this would help

"It" works for DB marriages the best but any marriage can benefit from the man waking up and taking charge of his life and family.