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I have okay teeth but I went in for a consult the other day (after procrastinating like a bitch)

Did the new smile greatly help your SMV(in your oppinion) in the looks category?

What other physical SMV stuff have you done? I already lift, and have custom Tailored clothes now


[–]amalgamator3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The lab fee for Invisalign is about $1800

I charge about $5000 for Invisalign and $3500 for traditional Braces.

Often the braces work faster and better.

Go get at least three opinions and go to an orthodontist, not a general dentist who took a weekend course in Invisalign and experiments on the public while sending his kids to a real orthodontist.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The downside to invisalign is the positive. You can take it out. If you aren't disciplined, get regular braces. I had regular braces, wife got invisalign. Took her longer because she didn't wear it as often as she should have.

[–]Learningtomrp[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll definitely do this. Great to hear it worked for you. I'm pretty disciplined so I'll tough this one out!

[–]markpf730 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Spring for the professional whitening while you are at it.

The other upside of Invisalign is it forces planned and regular eating patterns. You have to take them out before you eat and brush your teeth before you put them back in. Planned and intentional eating means good lean gains are coming.

[–]Learningtomrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats great. I'm getting excited to start

[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm the rugged as fuck type, until the tux or sport coat go on

Yes, it helped the SMV

Braces, now retainers and they are a motherfucker Make sure the ortho puts in permanent retainers behind the teeth

[–]amalgamator1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There is no such thing as permanent retainers.

Just Fixed or removeable. The word permanent makes it sound like they can’t break, but they break all the time. Fixed retainers have negatives. 1. They can break 2. You can’t really floss your teeth and it catches a lot of junk 3. Not everyone is a candidate for fixed.

Instead of telling the orthodontist what to do how about you listen to him and consider your options and the positives and negatives and make your own decision?

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ya. I got a steel wire behind my teeth. They suck but my teeth are straight. My orthodontist calls them permanent.

The plastic fucking retainers I wear are the retainers that really suck dick though, so be warned

Ya he needs to talk to his ortho. You are right I am “Little Red Riding Dick” that knows nothing

By the way, is the shit amalgon really poisonous ? And all this shit about natural dentistry hoopla or fact ?

[–]amalgamator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The mercury is chemically bound up in amalgam fillings. If you eat pure sodium it’s bad for you, but sodium chloride is table salt.

It’s a great option for large fillings if someone can’t afford a crown, but we are doing less and less.

The “holistic dentistry” stuff is 99% marketing bullshit for “can I talk to your manager” type white elitist women who exculsivly shoo at Whole Foods and get TMJ symptoms from sucking dick...

[–]Learningtomrp[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had no idea you could get a permanent retainer! I will do that. I have yet to do the sport coat look. Do you wear this with jeans?

[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Leather shoes or boots, matching belt and generally a Hilifger coat. Jeans, yes and the best dressed man at a concert last night, except the conductor.

Swear to god all eyes were on me including the orchestra as I walked in.

Fucking hilarious, my wife was glowing with pride. So many fucks there just sloppy.

Navy blazer, tan slacks, white shirt or tie. Freaks my friends out. Yellow tie and it’s like they are mesmorized.

Every once in a while navy blazer with jeans

Everthing fits. And fits well

[–]Marcus_Aurtrillius1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, the old California Tux!

Went to a play recently. I was dressed to the nines of course. Looking around, there were guys there in cargo shorts and sandals. Like geez, where is your self respect???

[–]amalgamator1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Numerous studies show that people with straight teeth marry more desirable partners and make more money in a lifetime. Do it!

[–]kenlem0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

My teeth are healthy looking and white before braces were just a mess. I got braces so that I would keep my teeth longer but did notice a boost in confidence and a positive reaction from women. My smile still isn’t perfect but it’s my most often complimented feature.

Do it. Bad teeth scream low class.

[–]Learningtomrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome to hear man! I agree, they scream poor Almost, even if you have money

[–]Wolveryn0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I got Invisalign in my 20's for my upper teeth, best thing I ever did, the gap in my front teeth was getting wonkier over the years... I also had to get a veneer, as I'd chipped one of my front teeth playing rugby and mountain biking like I was invincible when I was young.

They didn't perfectly correct them, but in photos and from a meters distance they look perfect, and I had compliments from women on my smile... for years after.

Massive confidence boost, in fact its the difference between night and day.

It increases all avenues of your life, career, income, fun, friends, women, business.

$5000 is nothing compared to the benefits you get from society treating you 10 times better than before.

[–]Learningtomrp[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is fantastic to hear man. I'm glad they worked out so well for you. Did you do the professional whitening afterwards?

[–]Wolveryn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I've stayed away from whitening, aside from the fact I've heard it can weaken your teeth, I can't because of the veneer. (As far as I know, I haven't looked into it).

[–]Learningtomrp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

$5000 is nothing. I have bought way more pointless shit haha. I have worked my body to death and am ready to improve other areas

[–]TurdDoctor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Improving your smile can pay great dividends in SMV. Go to an orthodontist (not a general dentist), you wouldn't go to your regular MD for a heart procedure would you? Understand that Invisilign can only do so much, regular braces are for more involved situations and may be faster. Don't do it if you have gum disease or high rate of getting cavities. There are other "brands" of this type of treatment that could work also but what you are really getting with treatment is the expertise of the doctor. Go with someone you trust. Other than that, have at it- good luck.

[–]JDRoedellRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I switched my insurance last year to a provider that covers more orthodontic stuff specifically so I could do Invisalign. One year waiting period is almost up. The long game. Always be improving

[–]creating_my_life0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the smile helps. I would advise to go to the BEST, highest-quality orthodontist in your region. It's as much a skill and trade as it is technology.

Just go the traditional metal route.

I did Damon Braces, and my Ortho was highly skilled. The output was great. The process sucks.

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