Once you swallowed TRP, what were you most angry about?

BobbyPeru · 2017-09-04T19:32:08+00:00

I was more angry at myself for becoming a pussy. Then, for a long time I wondered if she cheated on me because I was so BP, and that thought made me angry. Then, I started to not care and just focus on the present and future MAP.

matrixtospartanatLV · 2017-09-04T14:06:26+00:00

I'm 55yo.

Lost time.

Still pissed about it, and it tends to come out in my responses to posts who just complain and whine, like I used to.

Sort of hits a nerve...

BluepillProfessor · 2017-09-04T16:12:51+00:00

When I figured out logically the reason for all the sexual denials. That my wife derived more pleasure from seeing the hurt and pain and knowing she was the cause than she would ever get from the pleasure of a sex. It took a long time to throw off the blue pill conditioning and realize that women are motivated not by pleasure but by power. Therefore the way to get them to fuck is to take away their pussy power- first by not caring, second by building yourself in your own mind as a man with options, third by showing her that you actually do have options and ultimately by exercising those options.

Even now it pisses me off. That was not the deal when we married but it is more than just the bait and switch. It cuts to the heart of awalt and literally destroys that fucking blue pill dream.

BirdManBrrrr · 2017-09-04T18:41:20+00:00

Once past realizing what of myself I need to fix I'm still irritated NOBODY through my entire life taught me 1. How to function as a man and 2. How to effectively deal with women both in and outside a relationship. Better late than never finding MRP, but this would have saved me a lot of time, money, and trouble knowing all this at an earlier age.

[deleted] · 2017-09-04T22:41:13+00:00

Lost time, late in life and only so much time left.

donedreadpirate · 2017-09-04T15:34:24+00:00

The wasted time

JDRoedell · 2017-09-04T18:57:53+00:00

That I hadn't discovered it 10 years ago.

drty_pr · 2017-09-04T19:52:58+00:00

That it's what I knew all along, but thought I was a "bad" guy for thinking it.

state5700 · 2017-09-04T23:47:34+00:00

Me putting up with her weight gain and her dowdy clothing, and not pushing my desire for sex because I "wanted" to be "considerate" of her when she was tired, not interested, thinking about the kids, etc.

Alphaphux · 2017-09-05T00:57:48+00:00

That I didn't discover this in my teans. Something my son won't have to lament

Big_Daddy_PDX · 2017-09-04T23:47:38+00:00

Once you digest the pill, it shouldn't be anger, but more disappointment. For me it was the lost time. I'm 46 and so close to final divorce. The upside is my new GF is about 15yrs younger, attractive and a tight body. Sometimes I can't be certain if I've got ED or if guys my age just can't do sustained, daily, morning and night sex.

[deleted] · 2017-09-05T01:44:23+00:00

The way society believes its own lies.

I fucking LOATHE the society we live in and how many men are still deluded by blue pill thinking.

I seriously wonder if there is a man alive that "talked about his sexual frustrations" that ended up getting more sex? My money is on no.

TurdDoctor · 2017-09-05T02:00:35+00:00

I was mad after understanding that my commitment is the currency for access to her sex and how easily I gave up this currency. I was at a disadvantage by giving it up so easily which gave her control. Once I stopped caring so much about her sex, focusing on me, and started withdrawing my commitment (time and attention at this stage) the more the anger went away. The less I give a shit about her sex, the less power she has in the relationship. I'm still angry I gave her this power for so many years. Alot of us are older (I'm 46) and we regret the lost time.

simbarlion · 2017-09-04T12:11:38+00:00

Lost time.

Doing the right thing just to be left behind.

That the matrix is real.

[deleted] · 2017-09-04T12:26:05+00:00

I got over all of this pretty quickly, but a few things:

Knowing that I'd done the best I could with the information that I had been given but that it was the wrong information, so I was sabotaged from the start.
The same as #1 except for my dad having gone through a tremendous, several-decade shit show with my mom and knowing that he was also sabotaged from the start.

meaningintragedy · 2017-09-05T00:27:58+00:00

The fact that I didn't know about TRP stuff earlier. If I did I could have kept my almost-unicorn LTR. Since I didn't I ended disgusting her with my beta behavior.

AustralianArm · 2017-09-05T02:07:09+00:00

I was angry for becoming a schlub that just expected my wife would put out 'because that's what wives are supposed to do'. For an intelligent guy, I was incredibly dumb.

But my anger didn't last long when it hit me that the only way to go forward was to fix myself and concentrate on being happy for me. 8 months on, massive improvemernts have been made. Weight gone, strength up, life enjoyment up, interpersonal relationships are way better.

screechhater · 2017-09-04T11:33:28+00:00

Get your shit together and quit the poor me. That will kill it

Me, I was so pissed off about her gatekeeping. Once I figured out "exactly" the cause and only though the sidebar, IDGAF truly set in and the anger just vanished

Stoic, take it or leave it, high value me is back

The_Litz · 2017-09-04T12:59:53+00:00

That I held the self limiting believe of thinking I cannot be 'That guy'.
I actively pursued being the opposite of Chad, even when girls tried to make me their Chad. I held strange believes.....

[deleted] · 2017-09-04T13:04:14+00:00

I had set my mind up to be exactly what "beta's in waiting" describes.

that STILL gets to me.

chachaChad · 2017-09-05T12:40:23+00:00

I'm so angry that I ignored a million red flags. Fuck me. I was able to hamster away almost every red fucking flag in existence.

I'm angry at not standing up for myself and letting people tell me what to do and how to feel and letting people shame me into do things.

natedog2828 · 2017-09-05T15:06:56+00:00

I wouldn't say I'm angry about this, but seeing all my male friends and family still plugged in. I want to free them all, but that's not my journey.

[deleted] · 2017-09-05T15:16:32+00:00

Nothing - nothing at all. We are all the product of our experiences, good and bad. OYS is also about owning one's past. I can't change the past so there's no sense being angry about it.

nexttin · 2017-09-05T18:11:55+00:00

At the time, waking up in my marriage and realizing it was my fault that it was going awry. But, far more importantly, it was my fault that I willfully ignored Cluster B warning signs and got sucked deep into her frame, hook, line and sinker...before ever getting married.

SteelSharpensSteel · 2017-09-07T00:58:17+00:00

Excerpt from a upcoming field report:

"The problem was, I was angry. I was about 80% angry at myself, and about 20% angry about how the world works. I was mostly angry at myself. How the fuck did I let this happen. How the FUCK did I let this HAPPEN!!!

There was so much shit that I was doing wrong. I was 35 lbs. over weight. I was deferring to my wife way too much – so much so that at times she was taking a captain role. Nothing what I was doing was attractive. I didn’t used to be like this. What the hell!"

And honestly, now that I think about it, I'm not quite sure of the root cause either. It's easy to blame the Female Imperative (tm), however it's harder to shine the spotlight at yourself.

I'm well past the anger stage (quite a few months into my own unplugging). It's just a sunk cost, and I used the anger constructively.

voneger · 2017-09-25T13:05:09+00:00

Lost time is the one that pops most often but it helps to frame it as a learning curve that couldn't be avoided.

The deeper wound was digesting and integrating that idealistic love and unconditional trust are fables in a relationship.

Idealistic love: Being loved for what you are as long as you push yourself to be the best you can. Realistic love is opportunistic, hypergamous competition where being "loved" just means you're the best option around.

See, what hurt isn't that I miss receiving the demonstrations of love. I "perform" well enough that I get plenty. But it's just a rating put on the outcomes of my actions. Thumbs up, thumb down.

I'm a father, so I know first hand what love can be as a bond, and accepting no woman will ever love me (or any other men really) like this still feels like a loss.