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Whats the reasoning behind this?

What counts under logistics?

Are there exceptions to this rule?


[–]drty_prRed Beret12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Whats the reasoning behind this?

You're busy doing shit. You don't have time to be wasting texting your wife. Not to mention how there is no emotion to text, so you come off as an idiot often

What counts under logistics?

Good

  • "hey, what time do you want me to meet you at Jens?"
  • "make sure you grab eggs and milk at the store"
  • "don't forget to send that permission slip in kids lunch"

Bad

  • "I didn't mean to let the cat out baby"
  • "I'm sorry for what I said earlier"
  • "just wanted to say I'm thinking about you'

Are there exceptions to this rule?

  • "I just seen that stupid looking fucker with blue hair. He was wearing slippers and a house coat uptown at 4 in tbe afternoon! Lol"

[–]2ndalRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

don't knock my style. slippers are comfy

[–]Het-Masteen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent response. Every time I come on here I find something pertinent to my day.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because youll fuck it up otherwise

[–]donedreadpirateRed Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's STFU for your thumbs when you're new. It's fine to text.

Edit: nicer.

[–]rocknrollchuck4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Context is missing when you text: facial expressions, tone of voice, body language, as well as physical interaction such as kino. It also establishes you as her "girlfriend" that she can text anytime to vent her feelings. She has girlfriends for that. Logistics are necessary and text is a very convenient way of contacting another person for something that is needed, but that is it. If you always respond to all of her texts, it shows that you are always available for her which is a DLV. Plus, if she can "talk" to you all day via text, how can she miss you? You want her to miss you, so she's glad to see you when you get home.

[–]thewholefnshow5472 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exception: If you got text game, then go for it. I love text game, I play it almost every day, however, you gotta keep on you toes. It is literally like a daily chess match I play with my wife. You have to come up with a good punchline, joke or sexual innuendo every day or at least every other day. You have to be able to seamlessly weave a sexual scenario into your daily texting. It has to be fun and fantastic, or she will reject it. Yo-yo her, bait and switch her, give her some line, reel her back in, predict how she will respond and play off it. It can be mentally taxing, but very rewarding for the quick witted among us.

[–]ArchwingerRed Beret2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

You do not own a magic cell phone. You can not fuck a girl through your phone. If you're 10 miles from a girl, unless your dick is about 10 miles and 6 inches long, you can't fuck her right now.

This doesn't just apply to text messages, but to any interaction with a woman: You have to have a plan. 99% of the time, your plan is sex. So everything you say and do is intended to steer the interaction toward your plan. Every time you engage a girl conversationally, you're doing so with a purpose. A plan. You're not just chatting.

And if this interaction takes the form of text messages, then part of your plan will undoubtedly be to get this woman out for an in-person encounter. When you're in person, you can escalate physically, you can read each other's body language -- it's better and easier for you, and you're more likely to get laid than fucking around with text messages. You don't make any significant progress with a girl by texting.

The idea that you need to send occasional text messages to women, just to chat, just to stay on their radar, with no definite plan, without pushing toward a meeting, is lame blue pill shit. You're too busy for that. All you do when you text a girl without a plan, just to stay in touch, stay on her radar, and make conversation, is demonstrate that you're a loser and don't have anything better to do. You're just validating her with attention, for nothing, for no reason.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I have a follow up question. What do feel of sparingly using texting as a way to reward when at the same time pushing her to change in another area?

For example, one might become more assertive in an area which causes friction (do housework) One also then alievates that friction by texting. I would imagine it would work best after she has already shown progression to what you want (day after you come home to a clean house).

[–]ArchwingerRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If your wife is performing well at home, there is absolutely nothing you can do to reward or validate her via text message that can't be done 1000 times better in person. Plus, doing so in person leads to sex. Sending her a lazy-ass "thinking of you, sexy" text message just comes across as needy. You're too busy for that shit, even when she's been dutifully cleaning your house top to bottom.

I suppose, since you're obviously super-autistic, that I should note that texting for logistics only doesn't necessarily mean texting for sex only. If you have to coordinate something with the kids, or communicate something about work or when to be where or some important plans you're making, that counts as having a plan just like moving toward sex counts as a plan.

The general rule of thumb is before you ever get your phone out of your pocket, understand exactly what you want to accomplish and how you plan to go about it. Have a plan. Then, every single word you type can be geared toward making that plan happen. Never text just to chat and have a conversation with your woman. Not even to "reward" her for something. You're too busy for that (and if you're not, you need to fix that instead of wasting your time chatting with your cell phone keyboard). That goes for any woman, by the way, not just your wife. And it's not a bad idea to practice the same when dealing with men.

If you don't have a good reason to send her a text message, don't send her a text message. If she sends you a text message first and you don't have a good reason to reply, don't reply. When she asks you later why you never responded to her text, tell her you didn't notice her text because you were busy at work.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the explination

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you have to ask... don't.

People who have text game know they have text game

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Im not asking you if I have text game. Im asking if any men have had sucess using texting as a motivational tool.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, you're saying the same thing reworded.

reward... it's fucking pixels

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most guys are too stupid & talk to much, those who get it use it as they wish.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As mentioned it establishes you as a busy man.

Text lacks context. It feeds the hamster.

I'll even go one step further and tell you to reply 1/3 of the time she texts you. 1/3 less texts. 1/3 less words.

You're busy you don't have time to finger fuck your phone.

Exceptions? What you want is to have conversations. To feel better when you're gone. See if she misses you. Thinking about you.

Establish your frame. Establish your value and then ask this question.

[–]bsutansaltRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's easy to fuck up via text because of how much is lost in translation. It's best to say as little as possible when not face to face. Also, what others said.

[–]RPWolfAlpha_as_Wolf_2.01 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This was an instant game changer for me when I started MRP. One of the first things I did was to go to only logistics texting or if I had to say something that needed a response immediately. A couple things hit me when I started doing this. The first being how much my wife and I talked over text. All the fucking time!! The second thing I learned was how butthurt I got and always took the worst meaning in every text because there is no emotion, facial expression, body language etc. Third, I was one of the girls. She would vent to me about the kids, the dog, the traffic you name it. Lastly, it made me look not busy at work. That led to my wife undervaluing what I am doing at work and assuming since I work a desk job I am sitting around browsing the internet all day. Well...I guess I am on Reddit right now...

Anyway, this was a tiny thing in context but it created changes. It keeps me from getting side tracked by my phone. It makes me look busy to her and it keeps her from trying to engage me and pull me into her frame with her bullshit. This is a big one because having a "talk" over text is easier. It removes the face to face contact and a lot of the tension of communication. It allows the sender a safe buffer from confrontation. I used to get pulled into text "talks" all the time because typically I would lose my shit and rage when we had face to face talks. I told my wife I think Day 3 of MRP that I would no longer talk about anything important over text.

[–]straius1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Logistics only is the base rule because it's direct and simple to follow.

Text can also be ok for flirtatious messaging but if someone is working on texting discipline, better to avoid.

It's also part of internalizing that distance makes the heart grow fonder and getting yourself used to not depending on your wife's attention for validation.

Once those things start to solidify internally (or maybe they have already) then opening to other text game is fine.

But never under any circumstance as a rule to life do you attempt to engage in a conversation of any import via any text service. Save it for in person. ESPECIALLY if your woman is prone to start fights via text.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Instead of going "defcon 1" and cutting off all communication, back out slowly and answer her. Always defer to I'm in a meeting, on deadline or swamped at work. Other times- "k. Let's talk later"

Look at it in a manner of being aloof. Or, about having something to talk about later at night.

Addressing it on the whole, most guys dump their feels it het inti bavmtering about bullshit via text. Relationships are important enough to be face to face. Getting milk on the way home is one thing, discussing your life via text is abother

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Text does not convey emotions, despite the availability of emojis. Therefore, trying to agree and amplify or (shudder!!) argue or even discuss things over text is a serious problem. Everything can be misinterpreted because they rely on emotional interpretation- except logistics. Women will use this against you and they have an unfair advantage in the land of emotional interpretation/manipulation. When I say "unfair" I mean New England Patriots vs. North Dakota State.

The only exception I can imagine is the super expert level guys like Anthony Wiener who have the ability to use text to seduce and instigate. I can imagine a use for dick pics and text game.

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