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[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

honestly, if it came up,

"what, you guys don't have sex? how are you married still?"

and laugh. walk away and smile.

[–]sh0ckley7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gold. +1

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Then watch the 3 bonobos team up on you for the rest of your life while the other 2 men white knight rats do the clean up moves. This is an extremely dangerous situation for OP.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not likely, if anything those women would love to have a man with a backbone. If he AMOG this situation and passes all tests/challenges he would end up with three women in the house wanting to fuck him.

[–]innominating4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm.

I had a similar situation about anal and BJs. I said, "we'd never still be married except for the anal and BJs" I saw my wife's friends eyes light up and hamsters run.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Life's too short to not have regular good sex."

Whenever wife tries to tell a story about some couple not having sex, I'll shut that shit down instantly. "Lol, I'd be out the door so fast the hinges would break."

[–]pridebrah1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever wife tries to tell a story about some couple not having sex, I'll shut that shit down instantly. "Lol, I'd be out the door so fast the hinges would break."

Bingo. I always use these moments as an opportunity to show how far removed I am from ever accepting a situation like that. It's not hard since it's honesty. Who the fuck would want that?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh no? Wife wants to team up against me. Wife gets the boot. Since when did we start becoming scared of what our actions might cause our wife to do?

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is not just the wife. He is outnumbered 5 to 1 and wants to "Red Pill" the group after reading a couple of books. Not likely.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see that hes trying to red pill the group, simply trying to keep his head abovery water.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

that would depend on frame, and whether these people are valuable to your life.

[–]trp_dude0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, if you're ripped, just flirt the fuck out of the other wives.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most guys aren't ripped.

[–]red_blue_and_hot11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

She apparently doesn't know it yet, but she has it backwards... she gets to have sex with you frequently, not she has to provide you sex frequently. Need to keep working on the dread.

On the plus side, should be easy to AMOG, and could provide an opportunity for some preselection from the other two wives. You're being given wonderful practice for A&A, AM, etc. And, don't forget to game, kino, push/pull, and tease your wife in front of the other couples. That'll pay dividends in the long run.

[–]JDRoedellRed Beret3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is good advice. Sexualize everything and tease the wife. Show the others you aren't afraid to, nor are you afraid of her reaction to your teasing and gaming

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is only good advice of he's attractive. If he's not, this is a recipient for disaster.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I keep saying this : whats she gonna do, leave??

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This one line should be pasted on the minds of every man here.

[–]mattizie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

[–]BobbyPeru8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Law 38 Think as you like but Behave like others If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to blend in and nurture the common touch. Share your originality only with tolerant friends and those who are sure to appreciate your uniqueness.

With that said, be fun. Acta non Verba

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Prepare yourself to utter disdain and be completely disgusted with these gentlemen. Best advice is to swat the shit tests away and try to make nice with the husbands. It will be difficult because they will notice how you get to behave.

[–]A_RexRED KNIGHT9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Second this and, to add, prepare yourself to hold epic level frame. If the other hens start clucking, their beta bitch hubbys will too. Your wife may get caught up in it. The women are testing your frame - the losers are pussy whipped so they join their wives. Above all else, do not lose your temper. Fuck this up royally, and you validate these other bitches to your wife.

On the other hand, be cool, be the Oak, and do your thing with a smile, and you might see the other wives take notice. Yours will.

If yours acts truly disrespectful, take her aside and deal with her calmly in private.

[–]drty_prRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Swat the beta's shit test for him. That usually silences the room.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Prepare yourself to utter disdain and be completely disgusted with these gentlemen

Once you get past the disdain for their BP ways, these men are providing you with opportunities to game women that are thirsty. Enjoy yourself, just don't go too far.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Or go too far. Milf pussy is very appreciative

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I try not encourage these guys. So many of them would strip naked in public, and write hot checks, for a whiff of really hot stuff.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sometimes I just want to scream, "why arent you fucking someone who wants to fuck you?"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same thing W&S says. So simple, so hard.

[–]rocknrollchuck6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Been lifting and exercising for years so my SMV has always been relatively high

This statement from your "I rejected the starfish [FR]" tells me that it might be a perfect opportunity to walk around shirtless for a few days in front of these other wives. If you're really as in shape as you say you are, maybe their panties will get wet. If so, your wife WILL notice.

You will need rock solid frame though, so practice your A&A and AM before you go.

[–]BotPaperScissors1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rock! ✊ We drew

[–]atlhartRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"It's everyday with this guy!"

"Actually it's twice a day, but I know you're busy so I out source"

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We travel a lot and are routinely hanging around new friends (almost always couples) for a week or so at a time before going our separate ways.

Look at this not as a test, but as a chance to have a fun time with people you know, and in doing so give your wife plenty of first hand examples as to why you're an awesome man. Because most men (sadly) aren't. The bar is set low, and you'll have examples of how not to be right in front of you (and her).

The hens clucking is just noise. You are above all that.

[–]sexyshoulderdevil75% Liquid Sarcasm8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Game everyone on the trip. Be fun with your wife, the other wives and the dudes. Be charismatic and lead when needed. The wives should all be thinking..."now if he were my husband I'd be down for some daily sexing."

None of this shit is a cage match. They're not your opponents no matter what they all think. You're in it to have some fun and as you project that energy others will follow suit. There are no losers when you're around...see?

Read The Book of Pook or perhaps even Models if all this sounds too foreign at your stage.

[–]Chinchilla_the_Hun0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much what I was going to say. Make a point to have fun and be the captain of the fun ship, especially with the husbands (if you get along well enough). From my experience, it's always easier for men to enjoy themselves. Women are jealous of this and want to partake (enter your frame) and you can do what you want with this "pull"

[–]JDRoedellRed Beret3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And women wonder why husbands cheat.

Always be sex positive. I experience this sentiment with my wife's friend's and their husbands too. This is where frame and not being butthurt are important.

Your wife relays to you a conversation about how her friend only puts out once a month... you say, "that sucks for THEM" or "I wonder how long he'll stick around for that." Or my favorite, "good thing for you, you've got a real man."

[–]theunconquored5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"I wonder how long he'll stick around for that."

That should get the hamster going!

As much as going to max level dread too quickly causes all kinds of problems, the opportunity to talk about OTHER couple's sex lives is a great opportunity if done right.

I had a great conversation with my wife the other night about another childless couple and how they don't have sex.

I said...what's the point of even being married then? If a married couple doesn't have kids, the sex better be fucking fantastic or there's no point in being married at all!

She agreed. The overt communication was all about the other couple. The covert communication was a great reinforcement of the importance of our sex life being, and staying, great.

[–]checka_fred7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fun story regarding other couples sex lives:

Wife and I had been hanging out with some other baseball parents every few weeks for about a year (our kids our 1st graders). Wife is pretty cool, super flirty and sex positive, and the husband is nice enough. They disappear around January, husband deletes his facebook, I'm pretty sure I know what happened.

They contact us out of nowhere a few weeks ago and want to hang out. Pretty normal day. Night time comes and we're hanging out at our house in the hot tub, but the kids fell asleep inside and it's getting late so we start getting out. They linger instead of leaving, and it gets quiet. Suddenly I notice he's got his head down like a scolded puppy and remember how he deleted his facebook.

She starts going on about how he cheated on her with her cousin (way worse than I would have thought) for like over a year (bro…) who lived across the street (wtf! they moved immediately), they wanted us to know because we're friends they want to be honest with or some shit. But they're trying to work it out, lots of counseling, etc. It lasts a while, and the whole thing is too serious for drunk me to act amused or really do anything effective (actually thought about slipping in a bros before hoes comment, decide to just stfu). So I'm cockblocked for the night, but that's beside the point.

The next day wife and I are eating dinner, and she's prodding for my opinion on this shit. I take this opportunity to let her know that I think this has divorce written all over it.

Her: "So if you did that should I divorce you?"

Me: "All your cousins are guys, I'm not interested." pause for eye roll. "Honestly though, it's different for them. She makes enough to support herself, you're much more dependent on me than she is on him." Continue eating.

Her: "But that's just inexcusable! There's NO reason he should have done that to her! (other exclamatory things I can't recall)"

Me: "I don't know, she's a little domineering at times. Maybe he was missing something from her, and her cousin knew what he needed."

Her: "You can’t really be defending him! There’s no excuse for that. (other similar things, and then inevitably) Seriously, you wouldn't ever do that to me right?"

Me: "If I needed X from you, and wasn't getting it, I'd make sure to let you know very clearly. Then it would be up to you. If you ignored my needs, laughed them off, whatever; then I'd be kinda desperate wouldn’t I? So if it never got resolved, I’d be in a spot where to fill that void I’d either have leave you or find it somewhere else."

Her: "but... well I guess that makes sense."

Me: "While we're talking about this, I haven't came on your tits in a while" (insert grin)

We finish dinner, put the kid to bed, and I came on her tits.

So yeah, other people's shitty sex lives can definitely play to your advantage sometimes. Showing how much better I am than this guy was a huge opportunity to demonstrate high value, and instill a high level of dread by playing off the implied consequences demonstrated by this other poor bastard.

[–]crimson_chris1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So, the elephant in the room (for me) is why does your wife complain about having to fuck you?

If my wife brought that up I'd ask her about last night when she screamed "help make me cum" or the last time we broke the headboard, or when she gave me a surprise hj in the shower.

My wife still complains about how much sex I want as well, BUT she knows I fuck her good. That being said, I am not ripped like Chad - yet. If you have a high SMV as stated before - why would your wife give you shit about sex in front of other couples? Maybe she wanted to get a rise out of you or maybe you have work to do. I'm gonna go work.

[–]anotherswingingdick1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. Get better friends. Sounds like your wife selected these.

  2. Get a better wife.

and of course....

  1. become a highly attractive guy that OTHER women will happily give sex to.

[–]AustralianArm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My experience in situations like this is that the BP fucks can't make a decision to save their lives (meals, activities, etc) and defer to their wives on everything. Wives pussies dry up being the mother to an extra child and BP cycle continues.

Be that guy who will happily throw an idea out there for anything and everything. When groups get bigger than 4 or 5, usually anyone with a confident suggestion gets to lead the way and the others will follow. Be that dude.

Flirt and game your wife ALL trip, you probably won't get much action if staying in the same house, but her body language will make the other wives jealous and she'll know and play along. Hot sex will happen when you get somewhere more private.

And, be prepared to have one of two responses from the BP fucks.

1 - They'll hate your very being for being that guy with the swagger and a wife who wants to fuck you. Shit tests will come your way via their wives gossiping to your wife. If your wife is in your frame, these will be easily handled.

2 - They'll become your puppy for the trip and try to learn from you. But be careful, this can result in some turf wars when they grow some teeny tiny balls for a microsecond trying to emulate you. You can either swat that shit away pronto or play along and see how they crash and burn the moment Mrs BP shit tests him.

Go away, have fun with your wife and enjoy the holiday. It's your frame.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fundamental issue here is that your wife isn't attracted to you. If she wants to have sex with you, it won't matter what her friends think. If she doesn't, it won't matter what her friends think.

[–]DeeMooreDeeMarriet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I cut people who have no value to me out of my life. Always have.

[–]InChargeManRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"It's every day with this guy!"

I get that you didn't have a retort and STFU. In the future thinks like "If you tell me I can only have one flavor of ice cream cone for the rest of my life, you'd better believe I'm going to lick it daily." and "I bought the cow, of course I'm going to drink the milk." I like comments like that because they have slight dark/sexual undertones.

[–]wn360 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For fun, see if you can fuck one of the other wives the weekend you go. Just for fun.

Seriously, it sounds like you need to find new friends. When this happens to me, I refuse to hang out with the couple. Wife can go hang out one on one with the woman unless I deem her to be detrimental, then we don't spend any time with them at all.

Just tell your wife your not going over to their house or they're not invited to yours. I'd rather spend the night alone reading or spend more time with my kids than to waste time with an Ice Queen and a BP faggot.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mass frame and don't get into the bantering back and forth. Give no fucks and laugh. Don't enlighten the betas.

Got a good time to cut. Get to. How about tanning and grooming. Be the one that can take his shirt off anytime

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mass frame and don't get into the bantering back and forth. Give no fucks and laugh. Don't enlighten the betas.

Got a good time to cut. Get to. How about tanning and grooming. Be the one that can take his shirt off anytime

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

tips or advice a noob should know

stfu

That is all.

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