What's the point of MRP?

InChargeMan · 2017-05-12T19:39:35+00:00

TRP and MRP are significantly different.

In practice, TRP is mostly focused on having more sex with more women. There is more there, but realistically, that is the primary goal for most involved.

MRP is about improving your life i.e. shaping the world around you to meet your desires. There are many aspects to this, of which sex is just one. For many of the other parts of your life there are other outlets to coach you, like career advancement, investing, etc. But not much useful advise for the relationship.

fixes the man and not the relationship/marriage

MRP is guidance to help you shape the world around you to meet your will. It cannot force "her" to follow that vision. If she doesn't want to be part of your new and better world, that is her business. As long as you provide the tools to do so, there is nothing else you can do to "fix" the relationship.

ReddJive · 2017-05-12T23:14:02+00:00

Despite what it may seem like the surface you cannot control what another person does nor thinks. You can improve and at some point she can still make the decision to stay or go. The key is building a better you so your life can go on.

Your beta existence has extinguished attraction. Sexual desire. Your masculinity. MRP and TRP are the same in that they are rebuilding this and for the most part MRP adherents are more mature.

The difference is that as an MRP adherent your goal is a relationship. Now it does vary. Some realize it isn't working at all and it's a mistake. Each have their own reasons for their path and this is part of your study. You must find your path. Your mission.

It's a distinct difference and I will tangent a bit. Alpha traits can be seen as a range of behaviors. And some view marriage as a suckers bet. The game is against you. Laws do not benefit you. Yet here you are. You could very well divorce. End it all and move on. But. Your life would not improve because you've not addressed the reasons for what went wrong. The next woman would have the very same issues. And you're back at it again.

Now despite the fact the rules are against you in marriage this doesn't mean the rules of red pill are any different. The only difference is that You can't next her immediately without repercussions. So you begin to improve working with his construct. Some here report living in hard mode. Hands fully on the reins and riding that car at top speed. Others find a mild touch works. It varies depending on where your snowflake exists on the female range of AWALT behaviors.

The key here is that despite married or not women need what we have. Commitment. Nothing else will give them the comfort of stability. Family. Security. Money won't. The government won't. Their friends won't. We own this. They want it. Trust me you. I've seen it. Experienced it. They may deny it but it's real and once they see the reality you bring the bullshit they've built to fool themselves crumbles.

As for us? We want women in our lives but we don't need them. Married or not. We can exist without. It may not be optimal. But. You can have an incredible life despite their absence.

The rule is that women are the gatekeepers of sex. We are the gatekeepers of commitment. Then the inverse must be true. It's our job to build desire attraction and lead them to sex. Just as it is theirs to build and maintain our desire for a relationship with them.

Married. Not married. It's all the same. Only the circumstances are different.

SexistFlyingPig · 2017-05-12T21:42:21+00:00

MRP accepts that you're in a long term relationship or marriage. It's your ship, and you're the captain, so MRP teaches you to stop making excuses and lead your fucking ship.

Almost all the problems in your marriage are caused by you not being a good captain. She's just along for the ride. Once you realize this and behave like a good captain, it's smooth sailing.

Sepean · 2017-05-13T07:06:52+00:00

It's like how a college doesn't get you a job, it gives you an education.

[deleted] · 2017-05-12T19:50:35+00:00

Well because most guys have their balls so deep in their wife's frame that they can't even see the man they once used to be.

MRP teaches you how to take your balls back from your wife.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-05-12T23:02:43+00:00

MRP should at least have a fringe benefit of fixing the marriage

Yes, it fixes the man who is then in a position to use Dread to fix the sex in the marriage and use his knowledge of leadership, Shit Tests and female behavior to fix the other problems.

I think the main difference is that MRP focuses on leadership while TRP is more geared towards seduction. We use Red Pill knowledge in a slightly different direction with an older married crowd but the praxeology of MRP is 100% taken from TRP. TRP is our foundation, roof, frame, and siding. MRP is more like the kitchen counters and the hardwood floors.

Persaeus · 2017-05-16T17:22:16+00:00

this is TRP

this is MRP

drty_pr · 2017-05-15T04:14:04+00:00

One of the not-so-mentioned elements to MRP is the high level focus on mental development. Many men show up here with depression and anxiety issues. Being completely comfortable in the person you want to be, essentially when you don't give a fuck what anyone thinks, is where true confidence comes from. If you stick around, you will be a very happy man, with or without your wife.

[deleted] · 2017-05-12T19:09:23+00:00

in my opinion, often times, swallowing pills (whether its TRP OR MRP) can AID in the man's dating life or LTR/Marriage life. like anything else in life, there are both sides of the spectrum. things that work and things that don't. every situation is different.

the whole point... is while swallowing for TRP, it helps men better themselves and can aid in the dating/hooking up process. (gaining more positive results)

with MRP, its can aid in those LTR and marriages where the man already got the girl through the dating process. fact of the matter is LTRs require a slightly different method of RP theory (need to sprinkle in some comfort).

So yes, TRP/MRP fixes the man...... as an added bonus, often times, helps in getting/keeping women (depending on which spectrum you are in). but again, if shits broke, no amount of RP logic can fix it. it just really depends on many variables. at the end of the day... you are left a happier person. whether you are single, dating or married.

screechhater · 2017-05-13T20:52:05+00:00

Put a partition up the in your noodle and think about the strategy for sex from the SO, and the extra benifits of not being so dependent mentally on if you live or die whether she gives you some pussy

The benifits from lifting and 300 burpees a day, is pretty Fucking delicious with the constant attention. Feels fucking great at 50. Wife can't keep her hands off me

Pretty stellar feeling if she dies I honestly don't think I would be a Fucking train wreck.

Pretty much never been happier in my life with myself or life in general

Terribledragon4Hire · 2017-05-19T15:50:34+00:00

When /u/isolos created the place, his reasoning was that young guys keep saying 'next', and it's not really solving problems for men in LTR/marriage.

So he wanted a place that skews a little older, to work out actual strategies once you're on 'hard mode'

As for the underlying praxeology, there is no difference. Briffaults law is still briffaults law, manipulated man is still manipulated man. Rollos work isn't less useful, just because you have a piece of paper in the drawer.

anythinginc · 2017-05-12T20:38:32+00:00

what is the point

Life is meaningless and when we die it is just like before we were born, your wife has PTSD and you should sacrifice your remaining consciousness to enabling her shitty attempts at coping. In appreciation for doing this she will obviously keep your balls well drained and work tirelessly to make you the happiest man alive. Right? I don't even know why you are here. You enable her and put her life and happiness ahead of your own, and in return she is super appreciative and shows you every day how much you mean to her and how attracted she is to you with cookies and blowjobs right? I'm pretty sure that is how it works because otherwise why would you be in this situation?