Dread Level 10

UEMcGill · 2017-03-10T21:43:55+00:00

Compliance is temporary, attraction is earned.

Divorce her, tell her your not confident that you believe she's changed but that she still has a chance to get back in. You can undo a divorce but ask yourself what's the value proposition?

sdhs435klj24 · 2017-03-10T19:30:36+00:00

I know I will get downvoted

Lol

I told SAHM wife I want to end the marriage. I've retained an attorney. I am ready to move on. This was not an ultimatum.

Good fighters don't telegraph punches

If it makes you feel better, women communicate through emotional states. You got her fear emotions in top gear, so it's legitimate. How you leverage this is based on how being the Alpha fux, alpha providor, or a poser bluffing.

You've been given a gift, she has given a hard reset, and 100% mirrors what you give her to work with.

Too bad we have to guess if you're worth a damn, would almost be useful to ping your ideas off other guys. Luckily you don't care

Olderpiller · 2017-03-10T22:04:15+00:00

I have personally reached the conclusion that only by having the wife feel that she his now downgraded to a plate but still the primary plate can you maintain this sexual attraction. I do not think women are as attracted to you without constant reminders of the new status. I stopped wearing my ring and asked her to do the same, refer to her publicly as my girlfriend and flirt with other women in front of her. The result is that she is more turned on than ever and talks about dreaming of my cock. Maybe be a lie since awalt but hey this a lie that is nice to hear. And her actions show her sexual attraction so it is not just talk

[deleted] · 2017-03-10T19:30:52+00:00

I know I will get downvoted because this is a new account with no history. I don't care.

Then me either.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-03-11T16:40:57+00:00

This is the female version of sexual assault. She is mind raping you and yes, this happens quite a bit. It is what they do. Fucking AWALT.

Even the ones who don't suddenly change on a dime are turned on when their Bluepill husband FINALLY stands up to them, puts his foot down, and becomes an independent man instead of a little boy pulling on mommies apron strings.

The problem with the female strategy is that sometimes when they force a little boy to grow up, he realizes that he doesn't need her after all.

It has changed her, at least in the short term, but who knows if it will last.

It will last as long as you maintain your frame. She will try every trick in the book to manipulate you into weakening. When you do, the bad behavior will return.

You have to maintain your IDGAF- and REALLY not give a fuck- for the rest of your marriage. The SECOND she senses a weakening in the force she will start her bullshit all over again.

Freedomeofchoice · 2017-03-12T06:31:07+00:00

You're in a new job. You want to do good work, be there on time, get recognition, etc.

Over time you realize you can slack off a bit, browse Reddit, stretch the lunch breaks, get lazy and complacent.

Until the boss finally comes down hard on you for being a fuckup. All of a sudden you see your career potentially going up in flames. No more easy street.

Time to make the donuts. You get back to work, stop being a lazy bastard, and try to show you deserve your paycheck.

Problem is, you're not doing this for yourself, you've changed because an outside influence prodded you into a behaviour modification.

So without constant threat of getting fired, guess what...most people slack back.

You picking up what I'm putting down?

Sepean · 2017-03-10T20:15:28+00:00

The transformation is not self sustaining. You need to stay on top of your game and you need to enforce your boundaries when she tests your limits - and she will.

It's easy to think that she has seen the light, bit she hasn't. She hasn't become someone who understands reasonable requests, or whose small transgressions can be overlooked. She'll happily go on the slippery towards being a mediocre or even bad wife again. She'll behave exactly as poorly as you let her.

If you're willing to withdraw affection/sex to correct her behavior, she can stay this way though.

SteelToeShitKicker · 2017-03-10T19:20:35+00:00

I see a whole lot of words, but nothing about touching any iron, or any self improvement.

If you have really been lurking for 18 months, you completely missed what we are about here.

And to answer your question directly: Threats unaccompanied by self improvement and more muscle will be forgotten about posthaste.

screechhater · 2017-03-10T23:10:10+00:00

"I'm skeptical of how legit this is."

You are fucked

Welcome to Ultimatum phase, I hope you enjoy looking over your shoulder. Careful she doesn't bite off your cock when it's in her mouth.

When you fuck up she is going to take full advantage and break it off in you

Apparently, you have not read enough to see she was playing poker and manipulating you for as long as let her. Remember that, as long as you let her.

You definitely do not have the frame to handle what you have done. Or you wouldn't be asking

My suggestion is read as fast as you fucking can in Chapter 5 or 6 of of this book

Enjoy your new sex slave Better get the case of KY on the way home I will doubt if she gets or stays wet for you. You will always be wondering

Or, you can read and enjoy the reset in her attitude toward you. Just don't let your guard down

BobbyPeru · 2017-03-10T20:32:24+00:00

I don't care.

If you really didn't care, you wouldn't have to say it. It's kind of like when an MMA fighter get stung by a punch and then shakes his head no, like you didn't get stung. It always means the punch hurt.

As far as whether her changes are long-term or not, don't project too far into the future. But, work on yourself and it won't matter either way in the long run.

sdhs435klj24 · 2017-03-10T22:34:33+00:00

I've fully embraced the idea that I can't change her. And now that I'm ready to leave she does a complete 180, but it's also very short term. If she adds value to my life like she has started to over the last week I don't need to move on

This is the reason things changed. All the legal divorce stuff is just more mumbo jumbo to her within a few hours.

nightmancommeth · 2017-03-11T00:08:46+00:00

As long as you are willing to kill it at a moments notice and if you still have love I'd wait and see and the make your move when it goes to shit.

I went nuclear on my LTR 6 months ago because I wasn't happy and ever since its been a different story. This was after like a year of ding though and I was red pill going in.

theunconquored · 2017-03-14T16:40:43+00:00

The marriage was temporary the whole time. You've just accepted that recently. If you're getting more of what you need, maybe try giving back 2/3 of what you're getting and see how it plays out. Courts will always grant a continuance. Maybe you still divorce her, but enjoy the kinky sex while it lasts.

You put in the shit time with this woman, at least enjoy getting her best efforts for a little while. SGM hard and then walk away when you realize you can't forgive her for what she put you through.

Chances are, you can turn her into an alpha widow and keep her as a plate without the drama. And maybe leverage her desire to save the relationship into better terms in the divorce. Win, win, and win.

darla10 · 2017-03-14T16:57:22+00:00

It always amazes me how willing men are to forget and forgive years of shitty behavior when a glimmer of hope (in the form of hysterical bonding?) presents itself. It's ultimately an admirable strength or an exercise in futility depending on the type of woman you've got, IMO.