Best way to introduce RP/MRP to a friend

innominating · 2017-01-19T03:09:38+00:00

Don't talk about fight club, until he stands on the porch and only you decide if he's stood long enough. Then, lift, sidebar, move on.

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2017-01-19T03:12:20+00:00

Does he respect you enough to follow your lead even if he's skeptical at first? Or does he just think of you as another clueless soul?

A lot of shit on this board looks completely retarded at first glance. If he trusts you enough, he might get past that on your rec alone. If not, might be better to start with a "softer" intro like NMMNG, which I think strikes a chord with a lot of guys without seeming over the top.

ReddJive · 2017-01-19T03:44:16+00:00

I coach 3 friends right now. ALl but one visit this sub.

to each of them I looked at them and asked. Would you like to fix this?

At first it was me giving them tips and having them come back to me with results. Over time I would send them links to Rational Male and other stuff.

They found thier way here.

Go slow. Take it in stages

Sepean · 2017-01-19T08:02:55+00:00

Drop him NMMNG or even MMSLP. Let him read it and if it resonates with him you can take it from there. This sub is not a good intro imo unless you're already receptive to the ideas.

Remember that most guys are fucking weak. Fitness info isn't secret or controversial but why does so few have great bodies? In the end self discipline and willpower is the limiting factor.

The_Litz · 2017-01-19T13:51:36+00:00

No matter if you red knight him or not, just be very sure you are willing to walk away from your friendship.

Many a blue beta has scorned his friends when they showed him the error of his ways. For many ignorance is bliss.

If he leaves his wife and can't handle life on his own, he is going to come knocking on your door. If him and his slutty wife kiss and make up, he is going to spill his guts to her and they will decide it was your fault.

weakandsensitive · 2017-01-19T07:10:22+00:00

clue him into a lawyer.

discobolus_ · 2017-01-19T16:15:59+00:00

If I put myself in my old Blue Pill brain, I can't imagine getting NMMNG from a friend within a few weeks of finding out my wife was having an affair. It would have been both crushing and infuriating.

To me, the Rational Male seems to me like the only book that would make sense in that scenario. it would be a good point of entry for a guy who is really struggling with understanding why he got fucked over. True that there's not much actionable advice, but if there's anything that would help a person start chipping away at their oneitis, it's that book.

Mildly_Sociopathic · 2017-01-19T13:34:48+00:00

No more Mr Nice Guy. Just give him an ear when he needs one.

Nothing else.

JDRoedell · 2017-01-19T13:44:08+00:00

Others disagree but I think RM may be exactly what he needs. Don't give MMSLP to someone who just got cheated on and is getting divorced. They can read that one later. RM is effective because it hits hard and is clear in its message. Warn him that he will be angry as the pages set in though.

I would argue that maybe even the BPP's book could be good because it includes watered down female psychology theories from RM that may be easier to digest for someone just stepping out of the BP shadows.

I was thinking about this myself recently. Had beers and dinner with a buddy who was in town for business last night. Known him since high school. He told me he thinks his wife and him average sex 10-12 times a year. And he told me, another friend of ours hasn't had it in over a year. In my head I was thinking about if/how/whether I should tell him about RP or rational male or something. I didn't, but I wanted to.

[deleted] · 2017-01-19T15:26:58+00:00

Give him links to rational male, this sub, and suggest he buy NMMNG.

Do this only, and I mean ONLY, if he asks, and only if he shows you he's ready to hear what you have to say.

Then shut up.

[deleted] · 2017-01-19T14:23:35+00:00

I just got this sent to me on a traditional, non-rp forum. I wonder if things like this might help -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4JDQ2y2B9s

atlhart · 2017-01-19T14:57:45+00:00

I'd give him NMMNG. It's mainstream enough that it's approachable. It'd be a good litmus test to see if he's ready.

Give it to him. Ask him to read it, and tell him you'd there to talk about anything he finds interesting or relevant in the book.

If he reads it and comes back to you piqued, then you can point him this way.

If he doesn't take the step to read the book, then he's not ready.

VengefullyY0urs · 2017-01-19T15:07:52+00:00

I wouldn't mention MRP, but perhaps throw him in the direction for him to find it himself if he wants it bad enough.

Recommend No More Mr. Nice Guy, And Mayyyyybe MMSLP. Otherwise lead him to lift, and talk about setting a male action plan.

postscript1114 · 2017-01-19T15:24:50+00:00

If he is clueless and reeling then you may have to talk through some heavy emotions before getting to a part of him that wants to get some actual introspection and work in. Right now he's probably thinking a lot of short term rather than long term.

Sit him down...maybe a few times...and through talking to him guide him to introspection and see if he follows. If it's still all about her or he can't focus on the future, hold off and get him through the divorce first. When you finally feel like he's listening to you and ready to introspect, then introduce NMMNG. Don't just hand him the book and say "it's all right here". Maybe quote a paragraph or two. If he eats it up, then show him to book and advise him to read.

trp_dude · 2017-01-19T19:31:58+00:00

Just remember, you don't want to make him feel like it was his fault. It's more that AWALT. He's already devastated, don't pile on.

If he's kicked her out already, it sounds like his SMV is way above her. If he's a nice guy, he was probably pedastalizing her. So help him realize he need to get validation from himself, not his wife.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-01-20T00:05:43+00:00

I just told my buddy about my book and laughed while he deflected, denied, called me a shitlord, and accused me of hating women. Later in the evening after 5-6 beers he confessed that he and his wife have sex just 1-2 times a month and it is killing him that his wife is never affectionate. I told him I have sex 2-3 times a week and we are always affectionate.

He turned white as a ghost as he confronted the blue pill lie.

Still didn't convince him. You have to read the books, Bro. I gave him an easy assignment and he can't bring himself to doing it. I think picking up a book called "No More Mr. Nice Guy" would be admitting defeat or something.

You remember the story I told of the life guard, right? Sounds like your guy is just about to go under. I think that is the only time a defeated man can be saved.

So in my view, "Fight Club" notwithstanding, the 1st and 2nd rules are definitely violated all the time. Fight Club grew from 2 guys to an army as I recall.

Have him read NMMNG first and then you can make a decision about clue-ing him in on MRP.

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GreetingsFromErf · 2017-01-22T10:15:04+00:00

Give him the rational male and a week to read it. Start asking him his opinion on what he has read. If his mind is not open to it, then you should re-read Rollo's article on last rights.

midlifedick · 2017-01-23T02:53:53+00:00

If you just point him to a forum on a website, you are a lazy, inconsiderate friend.

Try listening and sharing your experience.

Don't use jargon, just tell him what you have observed that is similar to what he is going through. Maybe it's not just this one bitch after all. Turns out that a lot of women are like that and a lot of men were blissfully unaware until it was too late.

Now is triage. Stop the bleeding and save the patient, save the rehab for later.