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MRP has turned my marriage completely around. I lift and am in the best shape of my life, so far. I've read all of the prerequisites, all of Red Pill 101, and several of the other suggested books. I'm around dread level 5 or 6. I'm leading at home and my wife follows. She serves up minimal shit tests, and is pretty pleasant to be around. Sex is a few times a week, and it's not starfish sex. All of these things are vastly better than what they were a year ago.

The problem is it's generally nice and polite sex. I'm trying to get it to hot, naughty, porn-star sex and it's like pulling teeth.

Before MRP, I was a lifelong massive blue pill beta. I was way overweight, with limited social skills, and no game. So, a SMV in the gutter, and as you'd imagine, I wasn't very sexually experienced when we got married. She was a post-Wall woman who I'm sure married me for my beta bux, but I believe she did not ride the CC. Instead, she was also sexually inexperienced, and seems to have been mostly ashamed by her sexuality.

I don't think she's ever masturbated, and doesn't seem to want to. Has never owned a sex toy before, and doesn't use what I bought for her. No sexting, no naked pictures. Doesn't like me fingering her. Likes me going down on her but doesn't orgasm from it. Does BJTC and I can cum in her mouth, but then spits instead of swallowing. Basically disinterest and/or massive LMR whenever I want to try something new or different.

On the other hand, she loves my cock in her pussy, loves getting fucked, and orgasms from it. She'll dress sexy for me, and she will initiate on occasion. She's gotten more accepting of sexuality recently. I've been able to get her to fuck outside the bedroom around the house a few times, albeit with the lights off and tons of LMR. She's started randomly rubbing my cock outside my clothes during the day, and will tell me that she's had tingles thinking about me while I'm at work. She says me stroking outside her ass feels good, but doesn't want any anal penetration.

My question is whether anyone else here has gone through this before, and how did it go for you? I don't know of this is just a reflection of my current SMV & dread, and I can expect these issues to resolve themselves as that improves (I'm at about 18 - 20% BF currently, so there's definitely room for improvement)? Or, am I just expecting too much too fast, and I have to be more patient and keep doing what I've been doing? Or, is she starting from such a sexually repressed place that I just shouldn't expect her to ever get there? Or, am I just expecting too much, and should just be happy that my wife likes to fuck me?

I know that it's her choice whether to step through the door after I've led her to it. I know she just may not step through it. The advice here is about turning around a sexless marriage, though, and my question to the collective wisdom here is, "and then what?" Has anyone else here gone through this, and can give some advice?


[–]A_RexRED KNIGHT4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Read this and the comments thereto

Create an immersive experience (fuck, rip mine off exactly if you want). Create a space where she can feel free to unleash her inner beast. Create a way to ask/accept raunchy sex without her literally asking (or her literally being asked to have) raunchy sex. Your more conservative chicks will need this sort of thing to help them loosen up.

Also - pregame her with a bottle of champagne or prosecco. 2 or 3 glasses of the bubbly ought to lower her anti-slut filter. (I always recommend this over wine or cocktails. I swear the bubbles go right to their vaginas).

Edit: Here's my sex toy post. Start slow with your girl - don't try the anal stuff until you get raunchier PIV and other stuff. I'd start with the blindfold. It's tame enough to get her used to the idea of toys, etc. Later, introduce the vibe. Keep escalating over time.

[–]red_blue_and_hot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yours and the other comments show from a strategic point of view I need to lower my expectations, keep improving, keep escalating, and expect a slow slog. There's no quick fix here.

From a tactical point of view, there's some good approaches like the coconut spa that will help lower her ASD. Thanks for those.

[–]King_Husband0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't agree more, it's definitely something to work at over time. Let me state that my wife was sexually abused by her father when she was ~7-10 years old (the details are a little unclear).

My wife and I don't have "porn star" sex but we've developed over the years one step at a time. Hell, she used to never rub her clit while I was fucking her because I think she was so shy about her body...now she does it all the time and LOVES it.

Then I introduced a dildo vibrator - she didn't like it at all, nope, not even a little. Said it was uncomfortable. So, then I got one of those cock rings that vibrate...she fucking loves that thing. They're cheap too.

And, on occasion, I'll have her wear thigh high socks or some other cute outfit to bed. I bought her a crotchless body suit and it looks awesome on her and she feels sexy wearing it.

Also - pregame her with a bottle of champagne or prosecco. 2 or 3 glasses of the bubbly ought to lower her anti-slut filter. (I always recommend this over wine or cocktails. I swear the bubbles go right to their vaginas).

Wine and vodka help in my house but may have to try this more often! And like someone else mentioned, pop a Cialis and get rock hard, I swear that shit makes you bigger and your wife will notice.

[–]jeezydasnowman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think your expectations are a little high. That being said you can do things on your end to make sex hotter. Pop a viagra without telling her. Lift and get to where you can pick her up easily. If your penis is average there's supplements/exercises that can make you bigger. Supplements/exercises and lifting can also increase stamina. There's a huge difference between rabbitting for 5 minutes and a 20 minute long stroke.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's generally nice and polite sex.

Sex God Method

[–]Anco41 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was a blue pill man the sex was only missionary, in our bedroom, lights off, and only around ovulation. One of the ways I got over the hump (pun intended) was to man-handle her a little more in the sack (Sex God Method) stuff. She doesn't like to be hit or choked but she loves when I contort whichever way I please, and without warning. The real turning point though was when I gave her a mind-blowing orgasm. After I started roughing her up a little our sex went from missionary to a lot of doggy style. Then one day I just started fucking her in the spooning position. Had my hand on her hip for grip and as she was getting into it I put my hand around the front and started playing with her clit. She came in about a minute after that, and it was powerful. After I came she was really excited and couldn't stop talking about how strong her orgasm was. I did this position the next 10 fucks after this and she loved them all (don't do this though. Variety is needed). Anyway, this position and the resulting orgasms gave way to her being eager to try more positions and just general dirtiness in the bedroom. Cheers

[–]trp_dude-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Get yourself down to 10% BF, and you will probably see what she's capable of.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

hammer... nail...

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