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[–][deleted] 526 points527 points  (80 children) | Copy

There was a case in Quebec I studied when I was in law school in which a guy learned from his friends and his wife's friend that she had cheated on him and that his pre-school age kids weren't his. This led to a divorce and the bitch sued for child support. After confirming the suspicions with a paternity test, the guy argued in court the he shouldn't have to pay it since the kids weren't his. The judge decided that to much time had passed since the birth of the kids and that the kids were already used to having this guy as their provider.

Basically, state-sanctionned beta bucks. Reading family law will shove a massive red pill right up your ass.

[–]Lethal-Procedure214 points215 points  (15 children) | Copy

Family law basically seems to be about the state fundamentally being worried about who is going to provide for the woman/kids, and the state not wanting it to be them if they can help it.

[–]Aro2220104 points105 points  (10 children) | Copy

It goes deeper than that. It's the iron triangle. Family court is all about making money. In Australia they passed some legislation that made the defacto state after divorce as joint custody. You want sole custody go to court.

But in Canada the ndp and liberals shot this down. In Australia it dropped family custody cases down more than half. That's a lot of lawyers making less.

Here we basically make one parent defacto sole custody and then you have to go to court to get joint custody etc.

And most good people will spend every penny they have fighting for their family.

These women have been brainwashed into thinking they don't need men they just need daddy government. And that was correct in the short term.

In the long run I think we will see massive authoritarian control and oppression...more than even now...

Or if this evil empire does collapse you will see women being treated far far far far far worse than even their delusional nightmare of what 1950 married life was like.

Anyway you look at it women lose, the courts are corrupt and evil, and Canada is fucked because we are too dumb and too censored and too weak to fight for our rights.

[–]alecesne48 points49 points  (9 children) | Copy

I get the sense that society is sterilizing itself a bit. You’ll get a lot of non-binary folks and institutionalized children growing up into institutionalized adults.

The technical majority will still be reproductive pairs, but we’re doing our best to undermine the marriage for life concept.

It’ll be debt for life, chronic illness, career till incapacity, and marriage while you’re young. Which is fucking backwards and shameful.

[–]Standgrounding24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy

Pretty sure it already is debt for life, chronic illnesses and career till incapacity right now.

[–]Aro222013 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, we're living in the good times. What comes next is much worse.

[–]Aro222019 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy

I looked at it and while there are certainly some grass roots issues causing some of this, the big shadowy guy with the blowtorch might have more to do with it.

In other words, I think a lot of this has been 'helped along' by very wealthy and powerful players with the knowledge that a bunch of institutionalized self-sterilizing basket cases just happen to be really easy to brainwash with the MSM.

Meanwhile they ratchet government more and more through socialism towards communism. And communism is, of course, the great intellectual contagion... it's a trojan horse. Your people are infected by idealistic ideas that they can't do enough math to realize this isn't going to work and 20 million Ukrainians are going to starve to death... meanwhile what ACTUALLY happens is power gets concentrated to a single seat... and then Stalin, or Mao, or Pol Pot, or Hitler or whatever authoritarian you like gets into power... and that's it. Game over man.

Enjoy the gulags.

[–]alecesne7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just wait for the Artificial General Intelligences; the power will gravitate towards allocation algorithms and machines that don’t sleep. While different ball game then. Who knows where that’ll take us

[–]Aro22209 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

It would be so many magnitudes more intelligent than anyone that ever lived that it would be impossible for us to predict its behaviour.

The biggest concern is that while a computer might be excellent at processing data... morality is nothing more than an algorithm to it... if it changes to something else, what's the real difference?

Humans seem to have some kind of ability to have a moral sense of how things should be (unless they sin a lot and corrupt that ability). Computers though... i don't think so.

The consequence of that I can't see any reason why a general AI wouldn't just slaughter the entire human race. We hold literally zero value to an AI that has no morality.

[–]Nicolas06311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Morality is the thing that say that your beloved one, family country, whatever are nice and worthy and that your enemies, like business competitors, people from other countries are not.

It purpose is to reinforce the power of your own group. It help you as being part of the group, you abuse the group for you own interrested. It help the group having you as part of it. It abuse you for its own interrests.

Its purpose is to destroy your group competitors as well as your own without shame because obviously they are full of sin.

The goal is to control everyone behavior to make them guilty if they do the "wrong thing" and fealling great if they do the "right thing". The wrong and right things being of course totally subjective and differs completly depending of who you are and what group you're part of.

[–]Stron2g4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Or we could rise the fuck up and fight for revolution. But it has to start from within. Which means suffering and consciousness need to reach a certain boiling point.

[–]Aro22207 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

We need to fight the censorship first because revolting without leadership or a clear plan is going to benefit the globalists who are hiding out in their bunkers giggling over how we're eating each other.

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Found the French guy

[–]HZCZhao26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is the woman’s fault for being a cheating bitch, she should handle all costs

[–]MilkMoney11138 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get mad for my dad. My mom cheated on him and she got us, moved far away, and he paid child support for years. Fuck this system man

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Family law is about relieving the woman of all responsibility

[–]RepostGhostCst2Cst87 points88 points  (9 children) | Copy

No shit, if this happened to me I would just quit working and be sent to jail or kill the bitch and be sent to jail.

Either way, I'm not paying

[–]U_Lika_Da_Tomato104 points105 points  (5 children) | Copy

I met a guy who did just that...quit working, not murder.

I was a ski bum living in a mountain resort town. It was far more expensive than I imagined and I found myself homeless the first month I was there. I was staying in a shelter when i couldn't find a couch to crash on and that's where i met him. We went snowshoeing one day and he told me his story.

Carpenter by trade, married 10+ years, two sons. Was told they weren't his, got divorced and went to court. He was told, "sorry, too much time has passed, they see you as their father, pay up sucker." He said fuck you, fuck her, and fuck these kids that aren't mine and bounced. Might still be roaming those mountains today; broken and bitter.

At the time, it was beyond my comprehension that that was a possible situation a man may find himself in. 20 yrs later, I've never forgotten him, his story, or the lesson I learned.

[–]Trowawayantifap2821 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only court ruling here should be that he got every cent back he sunk into that child. That is fraud in my book. I too totaly would loose ever temper i have with such a ruling. Wtf is this world...

[–]thewrecker84 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

What's ironic is if your wife fucks a dude while you're at work or she's away on business and gets pregnant with his kid. If too much time passes it's "too bad they see you as the father". Then the dead beat dads who never see their kids are told "you're the father you need to pay". The way the law is rigged it seems like you're fucked either way.

[–]RightHandWolf6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The way the law is rigged it seems like you're fucked either way.

Exactly right. Laws are made by the state, for the purpose of protecting the interests of the state. Child support laws are not about "looking after the interests of dependent minor children," they are about the state not wanting to pick up the tab. Every law on the books is about either establishing, maintaining, or furthering the power of government. "Licensing" is a perfect example. I see a time coming where you will need a license to be out on the street during certain hours of the day. Bicycling, walking or driving, soon you will need a government issued hall pass to be anyplace other than your home or your job.

Everything not forbidden shall be compulsory.

[–]Aro222049 points50 points  (2 children) | Copy

See men are abusive and evil!! They wont just let women take advantage of them. How terrible. A man should immediately give all his money to any women who asks and then shoot themselves in the face. That's what would make the world a better place --thinks every feminist in 2019

[–]Nicolas06310 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This isn't good enough. He shall give all his money and future money to the woman that tricket him. If he tries to give it to another woman, that's not acceptable. You have to be loyal to the one that first tricked you.

[–]Aro22200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's right she stole it first!

[–]LMM-GT0239 points40 points  (13 children) | Copy

Most of family law needs to be nuked.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (11 children) | Copy

Yep. They incentivize single-motherhood and single-motherhood is the greatest predictor of crime, poverty and illiteracy. Marriage needs to become a strong contract again with solid obligations for each parties, such as the obligation to be faithful, to provide sex, to provide ressources and to constantly work towards to betterment of the family unit. Breaking those obligations should come with extreme penalties.

Paternity fraud should be punished with nothing less than prison time.

[–]LMM-GT0231 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

Single motherhood is a plague to the US. Literally most of our problems come from single motherhood, dead stop. That an male thirst online. Many women think that because men are willing to fuck them, the men like everything they have to offer. Couldn’t be father from the truth for many horribly behaving women. All around Reddit, if you are a woman, you can post a nude and will get absolutely showered with validation. The dopamine that they get from this interaction is strong and satisfying. This doesn’t make room for other incentives.

[–]Administrative_Camel 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Most of our society's problems come from men. Men are the architects of their own demise. Their unquenchable thirst is what enables women to have so much power in the sexual marketplace. They are the ones making themselves miserable.

Our species' demographics are also very broken and help to enable this behavior. There shouldn't be a 50/50 ratio between the sexes. We don't need this many males. Males have a worthless reproductive system and they are highly expendable. One male could easily seed a population with 100 females.

We would be a much happier species if we adjusted the sex ratio so that females made up at least 75% of the population and males accounted for 25% or even less. Women would rather join harems, mate with each other or just be alone than be with less desirable males, leaving a huge pool of incels. However, if there were barely any males then they would all have a shot. Classic supply and demand. Restrict supply, increase demand.

    [–]Warren_Bateman10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

    Society would collapse or at best stagnate.

    Not to disparage the fairer sex, but I struggle to think of a vitally important innovation not created by men.

    [–]EkMard2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

    Marriage needs to become a strong contract again with solid obligations for each parties, such as the obligation to be faithful, to provide sex, to provide ressources and to constantly work towards to betterment of the family unit.

    No thanks. Nobody needs to follow a pre-set list of rules. The government's power here should be seized and all contracts made voluntary.

    [–]Ramp_Up_Then_Dump0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

    If couples had chance to select marriage contracts between many templates, that would be nice. They choose the rules. No one forced them and it is no ones bussiness to interfere, not states's too. Judges wont do stupid stuff to justfy any thing, they gonna just apply couple's rules.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

    I wouldn't call myself a libertarian but marriage is definitely an institution the governement needs to leave the hell alone. Like, 100% alone.

    [–]Administrative_Camel 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

    They incentivize single-motherhood and single-motherhood is the greatest predictor of crime, poverty and illiteracy.

    False. The child's sex is the greatest predictor of crime, poverty and illiteracy.

    Males from dual parent households are far more likely to become criminals than females from single parent households.

    There is not a single male demographic be it race, religion, education level or income level that has a lower crime rate than the female demographic with the worst rates of crime.

      [–]rpMadler4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

      Even when it comes to illegal activities, men are doing all the work.

      [–]WarezMyDinrBitc1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

      One could argue that that stems from all the pressures and obligations that men face which women don't ever have to think about.

      [–]Nicolas06310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

      It is testosterone that drive men to achieve things and to not hesitate to go for all means necessary to that end.

      [–]Hey_Tabarnak 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

      Student to the Quebec bar here. I can confirm. Here's how it works :

      - If the child is more than 16 months of age (can be a little more or a little less) ;

      - AND if the man assumed the role of father for those 16 months;

      - AND if the man's name is on the birth certificate then :

      The man is reputed to be the father of the child, and even a DNA test can not overthrow this presumption. He will have to pay CS until the child is 18 years old or when he'll have a degree (the later).

      The reasoning is that the family unit should not be divided just because the woman has been involved in an affair.

      That's the biggest red pill I've taken in my life

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

        Thanks for explaining it in details. This situation is FUBAR.

        [–]omega_dawg9329 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

        i hate these laws. they say they want the best for the child.

        well... let's start with letting then know their real parents. and let's make those parents responsible for their safety and well-being.

        instead... the guy she screwed has zero responsibility.

        [–]zenman123 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

        Talking about law school, I recently came across a case where the duchess of Argyll slept with 88 guys to spite her husband

          [–]omega_dawg9325 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

          why she mad with her pussy like that?

          [–]1empatheticapathetic11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

          Coz she has no one to put her in her place

          [–]mountainbiker17836 points37 points  (19 children) | Copy

          What would happen if the guy just up and left to another country?

          [–]the99percent129 points30 points  (14 children) | Copy

          If he stops his payments, he will be liable for jail sentence.

          [–]mountainbiker17820 points21 points  (13 children) | Copy

          Right. But in my question, he would be in a different country. What then?

          I'm just curious. I have to pay child support myself, which sucks, but having to pay for another man's kids...

          [–]SpecialistParticular30 points31 points  (5 children) | Copy

          That dude from Newsradio fled Canada because of child support. As far as I know his only consequence is he can't go back.

          [–]Nicolas06312 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

          He likely can go back say when then kid is 30 years old. I know a guy that did that, was french, when he divorsed, he gone to africa until the kids where adult and then went back to France. He see his kids from time to time and pays nothing.

          [–]RightHandWolf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

          And if he should get caught, the state will just shrug its shoulders and let him off the hook? No late fees, penalties or interest? Really? That might be the case in France, but in most jurisdictions, the state will get what they want, make no mistake. They own the bat, the ball, the playing field, and the umpires. They make the rules, and if necessary , will make up the rules as they go along.

          [–]Nicolas06311 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

          I think that if things didn't get too far that the government would not go after you forever. The ex wife would have to complain again and ask to re-open the case knowing it would be years of procedures anyway. That may happen or not. Here it didn't happen.

          But if he go back and she doesn't know about it like 30 years later, I'am not sure that the government would still be after him. I might be wrong of course.

          [–]RightHandWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

          The courts might not be interested that much in the original issue, but they do take it kind of personal when it comes to failure to appear, contempt of court, or trying to escape their jurisdiction by moving. It depends on the merits of the case, but if the opportunity came up, I'm sure an ambitious DA would love to make an example of somebody.

          [–]the99percent110 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

          You cant go back of course and you run the risk of extradition.

          [–]mountainbiker17829 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy

          Extradition over child support? For fuck's sake

          [–]RightHandWolf29 points30 points  (3 children) | Copy

          The initial problem is the child support. If someone blows off the subsequent court dates, the court gets to add on charges such as failure to appear or maybe even contempt of court. Once they learn you've left their jurisdiction, it becomes "unlawful flight to avoid prosecution." The legal system has an endless supply of rabbits they can pull out of their hats, if they really want to. You'd think they could use that kind of resourcefulness to go after the cartels, or maybe the big time white collar criminals, or crooked politicians, but those are the protected classes. The regular shmoes get funneled into the prison industrial complex, and the money made off of that racket makes the antebellum South look like rank amateurs. So much for the 14th Amendment.

          Here endeth the lesson.

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

          If you want a vision of the future, envision a boot stamping on the human face forever.

          [–]RightHandWolf7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

          If you want a vision of the future, envision a boot stamping on the human face forever.

          If Orwell were to write those words today, with the future being female, he'd replace the boot with a stiletto heel.

          [–]SICFJC4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

          That's why you go to as place with no extradition treaty.

          [–]Navidian 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

          Canada would claw him back unless he went to North Korea

            [–]TheTrenTrannyTrain18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

            IIRC there was a case of an Ontario father left for the Philippines after his nasty divorce. Basically the court ordered him to pay more than what he makes because one of his children is retarded, and the woman used the "I was pressured and didn't read the fucking contract before I sign" excuse.


            [–]Cyber-Hazard9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Holy Hell reading this pissed me off more and more as I got further along.
            I hope his ex wife dies of breast cancer soon.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Such BS.

            Why doesn't she just go out and GET A JOB BESIDES HOing!

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

            I can't even imagine this. I'd have to take it higher.

            [–]bigkids1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Damn son, dudes need to GTFO out of Poutineville

            [–]nitchbigger-1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

            That man should take up the matter with the judge.


            [–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

            "Family law" lol might as well be called women's law

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

            What's wild about this, is that they don't actually make you be a parent. You can fuck off and do whatever, leaving the kids behind with mommy and traumatizing them, as long as you're sending that check every month. It's not about making you observe your parental duties, it's about fucking you over at every turn as hard as they can.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

            That is actually a really good point that I almost never hear/read. It's always about the money. Which shows exactly how feminised how system his.

            [–]FuddPacker19280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

            Not even a red pill, a red suppository.

            [–]sircomeseyesd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

            Can someone link to this story?

            [–]0kool74184 points185 points  (13 children) | Copy

            It's funny friends and family are always asking me why I'll never get married and when you drag out reasons like this their go to response is always ""not all women are like that."

            [–]Zahlix135 points136 points  (2 children) | Copy

            of course not! but enough women are like that.

            [–]hazelstein53 points54 points  (0 children) | Copy

            of course not like 80 % of women are like that. only 1 percent gets caught.

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

            not all women are like that

            Men take all the risk in marriage and pay all the costs in divorce, and commitment is a turnoff for women.

            Marriage is very high risk and the payoff at best is monogamy.

            I don't get why this even needs to be discussed anymore.

            [–]0kool740 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

            Well, I know that, you know that, but it still has to be discussed because blue pill brainwashing is almost irreversible

            [–]CptFizz121 points122 points  (19 children) | Copy

            Always get a paternity test. Always.

            Prenatal if possible.

            [–]youlovethisish133 points134 points  (13 children) | Copy

            Postnatal as well.

            My buddy got called up by a fuckbuddy. She was preggo. There were three guys standing for DNA tests. One guy got a 0% chance, other guy got a 97% chance, and my buddy got a 99% chance. Given that he got the highest score, the families collectively moved forward as if there was no doubt that my buddy was the father.

            Delivery day comes. They are harassing him to sign the birth certificate. He refuses to until he gets a postnatal paternity test.

            0% result for him. 99% result for the other guy.

            Six months of his life preparing to be a father that he will never get back. But it could always be worse. He wraps his willy now.

            [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (9 children) | Copy

            What a weird story. Lesson learned though. Why would the prenatal tests show a false positive though?

            [–]youlovethisish23 points24 points  (4 children) | Copy

            this article goes over how paternity tests can give “false positives” or “inconclusive” results.

            Seems like it’s more a process of elimination than an exact science. Eg. Both guys gave crappy samples (not enough DNA for accurate testing), and the report came back with what percentage of the DNA samples matched against what was tested in the baby. In this situation, maybe my buddy’s bad sample just had a slightly better match than the other guy’s bad sample. I’d also hypothesize that it’s probably much more difficult to get reliable baby DNA in the prenatal stage. So if all samples were shoddy, you get a bunch of inconclusive results.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

            So what I’m reading here in summary is that the DNA test is not reliable

            [–]Draodan11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Very few things are as reliable as the sun rising each day. Yet, even that is not guaranteed. Don't let the marketing department get wind that you know that, though.

            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

            Interesting. I guess until I can afford surgery and adequate storage, I'll keep it wrapped up for sure.

            [–]102117991078 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Cheaper than you think. 5yrs storage equals one month of child support about.

            [–]aventus-dog9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

            For pre natal is from the mother's blood, which also contains the babies, so it's hard to say who the genes belong to.

            So a eli5 is something like genes 1+2+3 in mothers blood 3+4 in the potential father. Then post natal 1+2 in baby and 2+3 in mother. The baby inherited the 2 from the mother, meaning the 1 came from the real dad.

            [–]SICFJC-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

            97 percent is not a false positive. 100 percent is positive. Positive means with absolute certainty.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

            So if I get tested for an illness and they say I tested positive for it, they're saying that with 100% certainty? I've never heard any doctor or nurse say that there's a 97% or a 99% chance I have something.

            [–]Moolg864 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Pfft. I’m full vasectomy after that

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

            One guy got a 0% chance, other guy got a 97% chance, and my buddy got a 99% chance

            That lab needs to reevaluate their understanding of statistics.

            [–]Gorech1ld45 points46 points  (4 children) | Copy

            Unless you live in France, then you're just shit outta luck.

            Seriously, in France, you gotta have permission from the mother in order to get a paternity test. Chances are, if she cheated on you, she's gonna say no. Infact, I guess at this point, if you ask for a paternity test in France and she says no, you should just leave her. No excuses.

            [–]TFWnoLTR29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

            You can get a court order for a paternity test if she refuses. It's still retarded because that just makes sure some lawyer makes money off your fucked up relationship.

            [–]-Tom13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

            What happens if you deny paternity before any signing of a birth certificate? Will the court then mandate a paternity test or can the mother just nominate you without your consent?

            [–]1empatheticapathetic6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

            I’ve heard you can go to jail for getting an illegal paternity test.

            [–]geo_gan2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

            Who the fuck gave women and their lies such power in France?? Is there nothing but cucked white knight retards amongst french men?

            [–]genX50 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

            I wouldn't be surprised if the twins came from one guy and the third from another.

              [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Haha yeh the guy is still underestimating the evil that is his ex wife

              [–]meninistMD60 points61 points  (2 children) | Copy

              Saw this today, was thinking about reposting it here, horrible story

              [–]johncillo[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Yeah, we really need to take care of ourselves.

              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

              horrible story

              And common. Something like 5-10% of kids are being supported by a guy who thinks he's the father.

              Women would feel very differently about this if they were told one day "here's a kid, not necessarily yours, that you have to support for the next 18 years".

              [–]OfficerWade50 points51 points  (4 children) | Copy

              My grandma went through this cheating on my grandfather with their youngest child, born blind. My family knew a guy close-by who was blind and out two and two together but he raised her like his own. We didn’t know until my grandfather was on his death bed. He damn near took it to his grave

              [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (1 child) | Copy

              Fucking hell that's tragic, being alone ain't that bad when you read shit like this...

              [–]22Luika6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

              What the fuck?

              Blindness gets pass on next generations?

              [–]Fus_Roh_Potato29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Reading the post comments over in videos had be thinking I was reading TRP. So much for that quarantine....

              [–]1msammy_is_back26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

              For an high browed gentle sounding Englishmen, he took about as hard of a line as he could. Red Pilled as fuck.

              But, in those years prior, it definitely could be argued that he was anything but.

              Sometimes its events of this dire nature that snap us into reality. Some come sooner than others, some come too late.

              At least this man has a chance to die with his dignity in tact.

              For Fucks Sake... How can women be so fucking selfish and cruel? They say we are toxic, but do shit like this totally fucking stonefaced and self-righteous. Its a pervasive sickness.

              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

              For Fucks Sake... How can women be so fucking selfish and cruel?

              Why would they be otherwise?

              There is no benefit to them being nice, decent, honest or honourable. Pretending to be these things reaps huge rewards, and men are gullible enough to treat women as if they have these positive qualities regardless of all evidence.

              They say we are toxic, but do shit like this totally fucking stonefaced and self-righteous. Its a pervasive sickness.

              Welcome to the gynocentric society

              [–]lunaluis27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Jesus Christ I can’t believe the news lady was trying to make him feel guilty for suing his ex wife.

              His sons will probably fall into similar traps if they’re defending the actions of their mother as if it was okay.

              [–]sehns23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

              Why is his new wife there? Why is she talking?

              [–]Ivan_The_Reddish7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

              Glad I'm not the only one thinking that. She also needs to pump the brakes on the plastic surgery too.

              [–]Frontestgecko42 points43 points  (9 children) | Copy

              Paternity testing should be mandatory

              [–]MarcosDomingues11 points12 points  (7 children) | Copy

              That would be an unsustainable law, because then the number of separated families would rise a lot. I think the state would rather let it go silent than having to fund all those children (through your taxpayer money).

              [–]ironp1ll24 points25 points  (6 children) | Copy

              It would make women behave. Totally worth it. Who gives a flying fuck if the welfare state collapses?

              [–]mrcoldshower4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

              The recipients of said welfare might. Free guv'ment money tends to be quite sweet

              [–]geo_gan2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

              Socialism in Western Europe is just fucked right now. Too many lazy fucks being supported given free houses and monthly incomes for nothing, and the other half of society (the working half) paying for it all. America does a lot of things wrong but I think their capitalism system in this regard saying “fuck off” to useless parasites is a great thing.

              [–]redartist 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

                [–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

                What? They give free houses away in USA too do they? 😖😂

                [–]redartist 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

                Dude, I'm from Eastern Europe, getting $50-100 a month in welfare is considered good here.

                So whatever the fuck you laugh about the US' system would be a VAST improvement over the status quo here.

                  [–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                  That's why there is so much emigration from East to West - people can literally earn more more doing nothing and living off the social welfare system than getting a full time job in their own country. Which is why the Western countries are so full of welfare cheats and the system & taxpayers are getting fucked over royally.

                  [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  This benefits men but is a cost to women.

                  Therefore it will never happen.

                  [–]NorthEasternNomad26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

                  Early exposure to my cheating, behavior projecting, grass is always greener mother convinced me by age 13: no kids. I knew early on that they're a legal Sword of Damocles...

                  [–]le_king_falcon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  Same my man.

                  12 year old me saw how fucked up my mother's behaviour was then and it pushed me right away from marriage.

                  Worst bit is it wasn't until I reevaluated what happened as a 25 year old that I realised the sheer depth of disrespect and scummy behaviour. Fuck knows what made me think about my childhood again but it literally killed any relationship I had with my mother.

                  [–]adeptintact18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy

                  I agree, get a paternity test on all your children. 23andme and ancestry.com for you and your kids offer DNA tests that determine ethnicity but have an added plus of confirming paternity. Tell your wife or gf that you want to know about your ancestry and she won't even know.

                  [–]rockmasterflex0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

                  uhhh she might be suspect when you do your kids on 23andme tho

                  [–]adeptintact0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

                  Most people that do it, use it for their whole family to have a family tree and track ancestors. I doubt she would suspect it unless you have given her reason to think you doubt your child's paternity.

                  [–]rockmasterflex0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

                  Your own children don't do jack shit in those tools for helping YOU identify your family tree and ancestors.

                  You and your wife and all 4 of your parents do it -> complete family tree

                  You and your wife and your kids do it -> hey we're all arbitrarily x%

                  [–]Nicolas06311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  I think that easy to get DNA from your kid and send it for testing. If all is fine, say nothing. If it isn't ask for an official one and say nothing of the first test except perharps your own lawyer.

                  [–]adeptintact0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                  You can use whatever reason you want. The bottom line is it works and gets the job done.

                  Alternatively, pay $100 for an at home paternity test and swab your child without her knowing. I have confirmed my paternity of my offspring and can tell you it's a good feeling to know that you are financially supporting your own kids and not being some beta bux fuck.

                  [–]FreeCommunication13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

                  This is my worst nightmare.

                  [–]TheImpossible115 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  I'm surprised the BBC would allow him to speak. That's a narrative they could do without people hearing.

                  [–]TheOneRole10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  The foid lady questioning almost sounded like it was his fault.

                  [–]2jbpostv4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  The oldest man surviving cystic fibrosis no wonder she’s seeing him if you know what I mean. Bux again

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  Fair enough.

                  If child support is a thing, then getting it refunded should be a thing in these cases.

                  [–]le_king_falcon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  After watching the whole interview I like the guy.

                  His steadfastness in the face of the children he raised being pissy little cunts is commendable. Him standing up for himself and not letting his whore ex get away scot free is great.

                  Shame his kids would rather defend their mother who lied to him and them for 20 years.

                  [–]2jbpostv2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  Good lord surrendered frame right in that text. Not sue her if she tells the truth? Whatever arrangements she wants? He should’ve spoken with his lawyer before he spoke with her at all.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

                  Paternity tests after birth should be mandatory.

                  [–]Andgelyo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

                  Not gonna happen, you know the government likes to rape men in the ass

                  [–]sedo8080 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                  Where do you like to read Family law at?

                  [–]hellobutterboy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                  So is the test before or after the doctors revealed this?

                  [–]ivaerak-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

                  Lol this post appeared on my home feed, how could that be if the sub is quarantined. Also when I hovered on pagename this info pops up, as if it is not quarantined anymore. Also I see now that 200k users less than prior to quarantine.

                  [–]EkMard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

                  It appears on home feed if subscribed.