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[–]BlindingTwilight 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

The cat is already out of the bag. The worm has turned. Most females I know are openly hostile towards feminist logic. These fools have dismantled their own initiatives due to their blatant misandry and bullying.

[–]KimJongUghhh39 points40 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

AWALT, the women who are openly hostile are only hostile due to a fear of losing resources (men).

They are more than happy to get you back on the plantation if given the chance.

[–]yomo866 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing to frown upon. A woman who is terrified that men won't start families anymore is a woman willing to work on herself. Hypergamy is not bad, it is hardwired into them just like when you are 85 but your hindbrain is telling you be ready to fuck those 18yo olds.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps I'm naive, but I see things starting to turn the other way outside of the Internet.

Many women I know, including my significant other, would not consider themselves to be feminists. In fact, these women now find self-proclaimed feminists to be extreme, wondering where exactly the bias or negativity towards women is.

[–]HBenedek383 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Let me guess. She doesn't believe in modern feminism, but first and second wave feminism were great things, and she wants to be respected the same way a man does. Right?

That's how feminists win. Take 3 steps forward, face the backlask... And take 1-2 steps back. But they've already penetrated the social conscience - that's a net one step forward. They win one backlash after another, neutering society.

[–]frooschnate2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Not always, this girl I met and was plating on a trip to Europe just came to visit me halfway around the world, paid the trip by herself and has to work some more in the summer to pay her dad a smaller part. Constantly pays when I take her out to eat to keep it 50/50, or sometimes even tilted to her side unless I stop it, which I do.

What else, I was a complete dick to her when we met, which is why she loves me so much right now. It was constantly making her feel shit and have fun, fucking her like she had never been fucked before and what not. Now I’ve softened up a bit on how I treat her on a daily basis and can be sweet and shit sometimes, the underlying treatment is always being less attached than her and cutting whatever bullshit she might try, which isn’t much but it happens sometimes.

My point is some girls want a man, by our traditional “redpilled” standards, and yeah they all have that voice in their head telling them to shit test us and turn us into a provider subconsciously. But she doesn’t want a pussy in front of her paying all her bills and making sure she’s always happy and takes up her bullshit. You can tell the disgust on their face with weak men and how some girls get it; they can go so far against their instinct.

[–]HBenedek381 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I think you misunderstood me. I KNOW most women want a guy who is manly. BUT they have a bad perception of manliness, and as you just demonstrated, they mistake asshats (no offense, but you pretty much treat her like shit, and while I know you do it out of a conscious decision, from a practical perspective, that's still something an asshat would do, even if you aren't one) for masculine guys.

My original argument rests on the realisation that women don't know what they want and don't want what's good for them.

Feminism among western women isn't spreading because they LIKE neutering men. Most women don't like that.
It's spreading because the majority of women hate to make conscious decisions and take a stand for something, and always fold to public pressure.

So whatever the "mainstream", or majority narrative is, you can expect women to take that side. Not just take that side, but become extremely vocal about it.

I made the point that despite outrages and backlashes feminism will keep on growing in influence. Let me expand on this.
Men have been speaking about feminism being anti-male. When they are loud enough, some women, an increasing number of women, chose to become "trad thots", "misogyny fetishists", you name it, point is, they superficially adopted something that's antithetical to feminism. But the moment the outrage around feminism stops, and feminists once again consolidate their movement, and slowly but certainly launch another wave of attacks against masculinity and men, these "anti-feminist" women will once again roll with the narrative that gets them the most attention - which is the feminist one.

Feminism is pushed by the establishment and the media, so no amount of backlash is going to stop it, unless the source of it (the powers that be) ceise to promote it (that is, feminism).
Outrage will NEVER solve the problem. Additionally, and this is really what matters here, you can't expect women to willingly hand over their privileges for a common cause. Because women don't care what's good for them, they don't even KNOW what's good for them. They only exist, and if their current situation is convenient, they will stay in it.

(funnily enough, this is why women's voting right was a failure in many places, as women turned out to be uninterested in politics, because it simply didn't affect them directly.)

[–]kagetsuki321 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism will stay overpowered as long as women are the best sex option for men, that why sex robots are a necessity to humble them. Until then, men will still get shit on by society.

[–]HBenedek380 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's just one hold women have over men. But I agree. I don't think the solutions are robots though - I think we CAN achieve male social discipline, where men know how to keep hypergamy in check. A sort of "male slut-shaming". Essentially, male polygamous instincts ensurr that the top men will always willingly have sex eith women, at the expense of their less attractive brothers. But if men exercised morality, and enforced it through social ostrachism, we could make men understand how important it is to actually LIMIT your own notch count a bit, for a healthier society.

[–]kagetsuki320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but as long as there's thirsty beta they can use, they will still be able to keep thing as they are. They need an existential crisis, and having their sex appeal contested is the best way for this.

[–]frooschnate0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

And you misunderstood me too. I never said I treated her like shit, said I was a dick.

[–]HBenedek380 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Kind of similar, don't you think?

[–]frooschnate2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Not really. Treating her like shit would be emotionally or physically abusing of someone, with malice. Being a dick means I make fun of her and treat her like a little girl, and when I lay my hands on her it’s purely sexual.

[–]HBenedek380 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Semantics. But I get your point.

[–]frooschnate0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

More of a different understanding on what means to be a dick. I mean the “you’re such a dick/asshole” girls give you when you don’t give a fuck, you know, holding your frame. That’s how it’s usually put on the sub.

[–]HBenedek380 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know. I see. I think that's on a spectrum with ACTUALLY treating her like shit - so there's light teasing, making her feel insecure every once in a while... And then there's being a total douchebag, treating her like dirt. Both of those things sadly seem to work on many women.

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't proclaim herself to be a feminist, she just agrees with 75% of their platform and would scream bloody murder if someone tried to reverse any of the ill gotten rights and privileges that she enjoys because of feminism.

[–]Blackphish8821 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Censorship works because the masses are complacent and compliant. They accept what theyre told and have no curiosity.

[–]Aggressive_Beta6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In any population, a majority demographic will always perpetuate the myth that it is being oppressed in an attempt to maintain its majority status and the inherent privileges that come with it.

This is true for race, religion, gender, and age.

White Christian Millennial college educated women are the majority in every major demographic in the US. Take what you will from that.

[–]1LowCreddit25 points26 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

The beautiful thing is they are fucking over themselves. Lots of people saw that thread and saw it hammered into the ground. It makes them wonder what else is being hammered down as well. All they are doing at this point is showing exactly how little you should trust feminists.

[–]5Imperator_Red31 points32 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The beautiful thing is they are fucking over themselves.

No, censorship is effective. If it wasn't effective, tyrants wouldn't do it. This is just Disney-esque, moralistic style thinking. Because most of us find censorship to be despicable, we construct a fairy tale explanation in which the righteous come out on top and the wicked are punished because that's how we've been trained to think.

[–]Seven_league_boots15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ouch. Blackpilled but true.

[–]OSaraiva4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tyrants also have a tradition of violent overthrow by the oppressed majority. It only "works" to some extent, after what it can only be sustained by brute force.

That sort of thinking is based on a bias that doesn't reflect reality. And i mean, what comes after one tyrant may as well be another tyrant even worse. But not the same.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oppressors oppress because the oppressed allow it to happen, and even worse, allow it to continue to happen. Many subs have been killed or quarantined, yet this is the only sub I 'm aware of that pushed back (https://www.trp.red). Hence your choices for dealing with censors are:

  1. Do nothing but whine about it, and continue to bend over for them.

  2. Flip them the birdie by no longer using their platform, where they make the rules, and break the rules as they please.

  3. Find another platform they do not control....or create one.

[–]kagetsuki320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but when you take everything from the oppressed then they have nothing too lose. Turn women into misandrist feminists, infect men hobbies (video games, movies, sport, books) with misandry cuck bullshit. And men will turn into kamikaze psychopath, society will end up in fire.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There must be a name for this type of stuff.

Every time someone tries to censor someone else (a tweet mocking them, an article criticizing them, etc.) they will try to get it taken down, but then that only draws more attention to it than if they had left the thing alone.

[–]halfback9107 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the Streisand Effect.

[–]RightHandWolf15 points16 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

The same old, same old. The feminists are so emotionally invested in the narrative of the "pudenda agenda" that they have no choice but double down and go all in. The victim mentality that drives their grievance industry is far too intoxicating a drug to give up . . . and the last binge before the fatal OD is currently in progress.

This dynamic is starting to show up on other fronts of the culture wars as well. The extremism is starting to drive people to the center of the aisle. The only real question is how messy is it gonna get? The results in 2020 will be quite telling. We will step back from the edge of the cliff, or will we dance right over the edge.

The old Chinese curse of "May you live in interesting times" is definitely at work.

[–]SuperCrazy074 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think we’re going to get a center of the aisle president next year. I might be wrong, but I think both sides are going to be on the edge.

I mean, Trump is Trump. And, are any of the democratic hopefuls not going as far left as possible?

[–]LukesLikeIt3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The entire purpose of the political state of America is to keep the citizens on the ride. It’s a Ferris wheel going no where and never will in order to maintain the status quo of them owning everything

[–]RightHandWolf-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry about the late response. Perhaps I should have been more clear. I don't expect either party to make any real changes on the national level, but the voters are being driven towards the center. The real clitmus test will be the results for the state and local level elections. If you listen to talk radio, the rumblings out there are that most people are very tired of the political grandstanding. There are other rumblings; people are starting to question the actual amount of the national debt.

The figure floating around for public consumption is around $20 TRILLION. Once you start factoring in the unfunded liabilities through 2045, the numbers get much, much worse. Pensions for federal employees and the armed services. Vision, medical, mental and dental benefits for the same group. How deep is the sea of red ink? How much deeper will it get if another Katrina or Sandy makes landfall?

There is an old movie from the 70s called Americathon, with John Ritter. Basically, the country was in such bad shape we had to have a telethon to raise the funds to satisfy our creditors. The movie was presented as a comedy, but the only ones laughing now are China, Russia and Japan, who are the big three holders of US debt based securities.

[–]Spicychickenaholic0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

First off.. TRP is bigger than America, so this shit doesn't apply to a lot of men.

Secondly, get this political trash (red or blue) off TRP

[–]RightHandWolf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The struggle of class against class is a political struggle. - Karl Marx.

TRP is itself a political statement. It is a reactionary movement in response to the blatant gynocentricity of the last 50 or 60 years. The current mess our society is in came about due to political pressure, so the lesser of two evils would be a political solution.

When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable. - John F. Kennedy

[–]Spicychickenaholic2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The current mess our society is in came about due to political pressure.

All well and good to believe that. Though it's a claim that needs a lot of proof. It's also unidimensional which I guarantee means it a crock of shit. You want to take something as complicated as they gynocentricity of western society as a whole and say "the government did it". No.

I have another crack pot theory, what you ACTUALLY want to say is "this policitcal party is responsible for all of this, we should all vote for this OTHER (good) political party to fix it all!"

Either way you cut it.. except for the definition of politics as "relating to the populace" NO, TRP IS NOT POLITICAL. No one is interested in hearing your astroturfing bullshit about electing some specific government official to fix their problems for them, fuck off.

[–]RightHandWolf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't endorse or oppose any candidate of either party - not in my original post nor in the follow up. Anyway, the fuck off feeling is mutual. I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed, animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Now, go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

[–]3Yakatonker8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is a government run program.

Proof? Did not Donald Trump President of the United States give his daughter a 100 million dollars to promote social justice causes, including parroting Feminism? Did not Gloria Steinem receive CIA funding and training to propagate Feminism, including her first print publication? Its niave to think it just ended with her, but continues on to this day with Trump's own daughter, who turned down the position of leadership at the World Bank...

For those of you new to the "Hegelian Dialectic", it's an ancient philosophical mechanism used to control the scope, the flow and boundaries of peoples thoughts in a controlled and methodological manner. This means controlling both sides of a political paradigm. In another scope, causing the dispersion of ideologies to be magnetized to two diametrically opposed dialectics where the differences between both sides is nearly non-existent. The obvious purpose of the thing to make it easiest to shuttle people into new ideological frameworks at speeds that are impossible without a modern technocratic framework, ie digital devices and near spontaneous communication.

All the censorship aligns and is being utilized as a thinly veiled guise to give corporate technocracy and the government the fascistic power to control what is said, and what is acceptable parameters for discussion, aka "right think". Its why TRP is marginalized, and why other topics of intrigue are heavy censored, like the obvious differences in the Races of men.

Feminism however is particularly special for the fact it is a designated population reduction program, and a population control program wrapped into one. The outcomes of such a program and adjoining governmental mechanisms makes clear the plutocrats do not want the sexes to be proactively or successfully reproductive. Feminism and the "modern masculinity" is specifically all about creating reproductive losers.

If feminism were to fall out of favour, the probability of a replacement is extremely high. The increasing state fascism is also quite apparent. Trump himself is a propagator of the same old deep state intelligence gathering operations which makes our civil liberties obsolete.

[–]MikeTyson912 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

One Spaniard posted his analysis in a thread about Spanish government giving 400 euro/month for victims of "abuse" saying that authorities spend a shitton of money on such causes, which enables municipalities making money out of a thin air. It's really all about the $$$$.

[–]3Yakatonker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll try to find the link, but I know for a fact the EU is the one sending Spain the money for those "abuse victims". They're also aiding to aggravate the already dismal sex relations there, and the collapsing birth rates.

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What's the end goal? Imagine the losers breeding will feed the rich and provide their source of labor for a while until the losers become useless. Then what? The rich can't live off robots. And if they try, will they mass murder the rest of us competent individuals?

[–]3Yakatonker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

China provides the answers for this Eugenics question. The Formerly the "one child policy" is about population control and economic management. Over population is unfortunately to some degree not a propaganda meme and can be quite toxic. The ramifications of which are historically seen.

In the grander scale of things it would in theory be easier to manage a smaller population group. The soft approach of social engineering is slightly preferred to warfare, plague. At least people who're cognizant can escape the fate of being genetically eliminated through social engineering schemes.

[–]MikeTyson911 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

10,000? Jesus fucking Christ, I've never even heard of it.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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