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I've somehow fucked 20 girls off dating apps since I broke up with my ex and discovered TRP 6 months ago. I've also been lifting consistently, just hit 225lb bench.

However, lately I've been feeling pretty mentally 'weak' in regards to my frame. That is, feeling that there will always be somebody better than me out there so girls will always branch swing, a fear that I may be unfulfilled by my career and hobbies, feeling that my game is weak whenever I go more than a couple of weeks without banging a new girl. Lately when I look at pictures of myself, I feel unattractive.

It seems like I often cycle between feeling like 'the man' to this current state. One issue I've realized is that I put way too much weight on female validation (e.g. how important it is to me that I've fucked x number of girls, how I feel the need to fuck a new girl every couple of weeks, feeling bad whenever my plates don't chase). I don't really know how to fix this. I have a 6 figure career I'm focused on and am exploring hobbies but can't shake this feeling.

Is this sort of thing normal, or do more experienced RPers develop ways to prevent this?


[–]RedSkeller112 points113 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude even 3 women a month, that juggle is like having another full time job. Give yourself some credit, make some 'you' time and catch up on some sleep.

[–]Specialcz3[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah at some point I just burned out a few weeks ago and started maintaining the plates I have now. None of them valuable enough outside of sex, so I feel the need to go hunt for more, putting me back at square one.

[–]Old-Jewish5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly I've been fucking way less than normal lately but I've been working a lot, focusing on my hobbies and achieving goals outside of women and I'm feeling more fulfilled than I have when I was getting laid regularly. Ive found getting my priorities straight, self improvement and reaching short term goals has helped me with my self image way more than pussy ever did.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

It's great that you're already aware of the root cause of this problem (ie seeking validation from women) and ime this won't get better unless you actively address it.

Work on yourself. hobbies, projects, study, career: build you into someone that YOU respect.

After that, validation from women will be the last thing you consider. All that said, you're still an RP rookie so don't be too hard on yourself - you're already doing better than a lot of guys on here.

[–]senor85oh17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Another thing, drop the dating apps. I did tinder and bumble for a while but now daygame is my thing. I think it's better than night game, at least for me. I don't like talking to chicks at bars, but I've gotten really good at chatting up random girls at the grocery store, target, etc. and it's worked well. Girls are used to guys hitting them up online and at bars, they don't expect it though at the store or whatever, it almost shocks them and it really makes it look like you're super confident, which we all know they like. It takes more balls to hit a girl up randomly during the day than it does at a bar. And their bitch shields are down compared to the venues where they know they're going to get hit on

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck yes. I only use day game personally, can't be fucked with the night scene and you'll only find low value hoes in clubs anyway

[–]strengthenics4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hey man can you elaborate on how you got started with this? I see cute girls almost every time I go grocery shopping but they always look like they're not in the mood to be bothered and I never am able to get them to make eye contact or show me any kind of IOIs to even consider approaching. I consider myself a good looking guy and make sure I'm looking decent went shopping, but for some reason I never get a girl to look at me while out in the daytime.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t directly look at girls in public. They will notice you no matter what just look like you’re minding your own business, on your own grind. If you notice she is looking at you from the corner of your eye, approach her.

[–]yourfatherx1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

also, what is the move you make during daygame? does it end in a phone number or do you try to bring them back/make moves on the spot

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends on how receptive she is, but usually a phone number will do. Get the logistics of her situation and if she’s not busy consider grabbing coffee or something instantly after.

[–]senor85oh4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This! I also recommend doing something that is out of your comfort zone. That's how you grow as a person and it helps gain confidence. I discovered TRP a year ago as well and I'm a totally different person now than from a year ago. One thing that has been really "therapeutic" for me and helped change me was going to karaoke. I used to be super introverted and shy but I now I'm really out there. Karaoke helped do that for me, believe it or not. I did it once because I lost a bet and then I did it a few more times and next thing I knew I became a karaoke addict, doing it multiple times a week.

[–]Raizzen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Been thinking about this but I’m really conscious about my voice. I mean I feel like i look old but I have the voice of a 12 year old girl. My question to you is did you do it alone or with friends, I mean the karaoke thing.

[–]addwater81 points82 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's almost like you need to do more than just fuck girls to attain happiness and strength

Shocker

[–]EqualFaithlessness15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a shocker. Because as helpful as the red pill is, it can easily be confused with being an alpha male and fucking girls as the end all be all goal. Let’s be honest here.

[–]boywonder20014 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This.

I agree that for RP newbs, getting their numbers up is important to build confidence, frame, and to figure out how tf girls work. I think the issue is, as many others have mentioned in this thread, these dudes end up associating their newfound confidence with fucking women and they fall back to square one - essentially putting pussy on a pedestal. Sure, they may not be beta bitches, but all their self-affirmation comes from pussy alone. "Don't get pussy one week? Well, I guess my life is a mess."

While I think MGTOW is cringy at times, they are really good about getting guys to develop strength and happiness from within, essentially removing the need for validation from women.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

While I think MGTOW is cringy at times, they are really good about getting guys to develop strength and happiness from within, essentially removing the need for validation from women.

The problem is that if you honestly can't get the types of girls you want, end up becoming a crab in the bucket beta, essentially a miserable existence.

[–]ThatOneDrunkUncle12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly dude. I've tried to fill the gap my LTR left a few months ago, and I feel like I'm wasting time if I'm not fucking someone every few days. When I scratch that itch, I feel like a million bucks, but girls don't seem worth the trouble anymore. Even though my ex is on her ass and miserable, she still tried to branch swing, and just sucked up so much validation I used to depend on for my self image. Nobody even cares that someone twice as hot is gargling on my balls in my back seat. It feels empty as fuck. I think we both need to chill the fuck out and just enjoy life as it is and stop looking for validation. That's what chicks do.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did similarly. Was an ego boost at first but quickly became empty and even a pain dealing with girls catching feelings.

[–]WinterRice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel this 100%. I went hard after my LTR ended and it made that void bigger, effectively worked against me.

Been feeling better these days where I literally have just like two girls I text/meet with when it works for me, and the rest of my time is with my boys, sports, work, reaching my short-term goals. Having much less sex but I feel a lot better now. I can spin more plates once I'm more comfortable mentally.

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sound like you’ve got low T. Probably burned out. Take a rest week at the gym, Relax, go have fun with the guys, catch up on sleep. You’ll feel like yourself again shortly. Chicks can’t help you with this.

[–]Specialcz3[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This might be it, I've been firing on all cylinders for a little while now. Vacation is coming up so it'll be a good way to step back. Thanks.

[–]rawrlolrofl8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is precisely what I went though. This helped/helps me.

https://youtu.be/QcOo3EC2Sik

Your problem is Ego. In my opinion.

[–]Fusionnn2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just watched this. Amazing points and philosophy towards life. Any other recommendations?

[–]rawrlolrofl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing then to point to his older vids when he had an ego, very RP. LOL

https://youtu.be/lvjSTmUWZcA

btw he went "mainstream" after the vid in my first comment. lessening up on the RP truths. But his old shit is boss.

[–]priapula4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is a symptom of TRP i think. Every beginner has that problem. How to overcome? Stop giving a fuck. Stop spending so much time on TRP. Stop spending so much time on women. Work on your own goals

[–]covertpenguin33903 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

3 girls a month is about as high as you can get. I think i was on about 1 a month (though my smv probably wasn’t as high as yours assuming you’re telling the truth) and that was like a full time fucking job. Always having to line up first dates during the week. It was exhausting mentally. My current girlfriend who is obsessed with me doesn’t even deplete that much energy from me. Like others have said, you’re burning out, and you even pointed out the biggest problem, dating apps force you to constantly be hunting for the next best thing and for validation. It’s like Facebook but on steroids with plastic surgery for your brain. I would delete the apps and focus on your friends and just having a good time without women for a month or two outside of banging already gained plates. I’m not saying don’t chat up that hottie at your friends house party, but stop going on a new date or two or three every week. Humans crave connection, not one night stands. So it’s probably leaving you empty since now that you’ve proven you’re a big time pussy slayer there’s not really any thing else to conquest besides another 7 with baggage on tinder if that’s where you keep applying what limited social energy you have. Hope that rambling makes sense.

[–]JedYorks3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a “incel” this is truly baffling for me.

[–]mrrooftops5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Reduce the number and aim higher. Screwing 20 5s isn't worth the effort

[–]Specialcz3[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't shoot below 7. But yeah the average is probably between 7 and 8, only a handful of 8+s.

[–]mrrooftops10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I give you credit for replying with a straight face. I'll let it slide.

[–]Specialcz3[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is this unfathomable? I don't see the appeal in fucking unattractive women.

[–]mrrooftops0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A 5 is a 7 to a 4

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Slow down. Some guys can maintain that much action, some can't. I learned a long time ago that bedding a new woman every weekend was bad for me and left me with very little free time to pursue my own interests. It just made me feel depressed. It's great to have Red Pill mentality but you also have to learn what works for you. If your whole life is just work, gym, sleep, date women, repeat then you're going to get a bit exhausted. I need my personal time when I'm alone and just doing my own thing. If I don't get it I get very down. I also like to have some connection with the women I sleep with. Totally non-intimate sex, if I do it too often, leaves me feeling depressed. For you, if you've gone from having a relationship with someone to having totally non-intimate sex with loads of women, that's a bit of a headfuck emotionally. Recognise that and think about it.

Take a break from women. Take a holiday on your own and read some books.

[–]E9er6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you’re a beta. you need woman approval. everyone knows you don’t buy you rent. it’s only your turn so why stress about the inevitable.

[–]Flintblood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are these kinds of posts the most popular in the sub, while posts asking more nuanced questions or challenging TRP theory are nowhere near as popular?

[–]downvotesanimals0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds about right.

[–]bobthetrucker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wanna trade pics? Maybe the last girls weren’t the best and I can fuck you better. How hard could the other girls go?

[–]LSDparade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sex and women are good man but they dont paint the whole picture. go and explore other areas of your life and you as a human being

[–]TheRealShafron0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's not yours, it's just your turn.

There will always be people better than you, but you have to set yourself aside from the others and see why you have value and show it.

[–]uptimex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I personally spin 4 plates and time to time replace one of them. But if I were in your place I'd just hit better girls, if you are with 6/10 girls now, maybe you should start to aim 7,8 now. Or 9,10 idk.

[–]idontevenlift370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You might be stretching yourself a little too thin, but damm 20 in 6 months is impressive. Seems like you need some monk mode, aka take time off from girls and focus on yourself. Whether or not you want to hold on to your current plates is up to you. Might be best to let them all go if they are unfulfilling anyway.

[–]ixyfang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Congrats- you’ve plateaued and are ready to move into purpose and fulfillment. Your lack of confidence is really just a symptom of your unmet needs. If you don’t listen to it, it could turn into anger (turned inward) which is also called depression. Question is - why are you unfulfilled?

Answer is usually fear. You need to fucking own your fear. Take it in and use that new strength to focus on what you want - not on what you don’t want. You got this, brother. Keep banging chicks but don’t make your happiness depend on it. Live your purpose and you will have even more chicks wanting to jump your bones.

As always, any guy feeling ‘off’ needs their Testosterone and estrogen levels checked.

[–]Lib-Tears-in-my-cup0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop acting like a faggot and pound 20 more bitchez.

[–]GGrub8-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the hell is with these humblebragging posts lately.

[–]Internet-Troll-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

20 girls off dating apps isn't that much to brag about

[–]rawrlolrofl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

oh come on, name fits the post.

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