Brutal honesty: How many men has the avg. western women slept with at age 25?

Two_kids_in_a_coat · 2019-08-30T22:18:12+00:00

One girl I slept with went from 9 to 14 to 7 and said she was completely in love with me and I was the best boyfriend she ever had and two years after we stopped fucking she said we never dated and it was a fling to there was never anything between us and we never dated.

They change the past to fit whatever they are feeling now.

Bone_Coat · 2019-08-30T21:52:50+00:00

ask a woman, then multiply by 3 or 4

abhi_07 · 2019-08-30T21:06:37+00:00

Met two 19 year old Californian girls in Europe while traveling. They had this strange competition going on between them to sleep with 100 men before they both turn 20. One girl was at 24 and the other at 21. To answer your question, it completely depends on the degree of cock carousel.

PimPedOutGeese · 2019-08-30T20:50:49+00:00

The answer is to avoid caring about it.

They will lie. Period. You will not get the truth. If you can't handle this single fact the question remains why ask?

If you simply "must know" then the problem is you.

TreatYouLikeAQuean · 2019-08-30T23:44:45+00:00

stop prefacing every comment with Asperger's

Rollo_Mayhem3 · 2019-08-31T01:59:21+00:00

I met a girl 27 said she's been with 100 guys... mostly drunk fucks in college etc.. so a girl can get laid any night of the week esp. In college..do the math.

FlyingSexistPig · 2019-08-30T21:40:46+00:00

By 25? I'd say more like 20.

DesperateChemical · 2019-08-30T20:33:08+00:00

Avg? Maybe ten? Outliers on both ends probably would fuck it up. Ten is probably a bit low to the mean number of partners.

Why does it matter?

jarhead_am · 2019-08-30T23:08:26+00:00

entirely dependent on culture of western woman. girls from my culture try to not sleep around because if caught , nobody will ever want to marry them within our own ethnicity. and its severely looked down upon to marry outside of it. they will be exiled from their family by their parents, friends, family, neighborhood, if they are known as the girl who fucks around alot. ive seen it happen.

from my experience and best guesstimate, girls i have known have a number of about 3-6 at age 25, in my specific pocket of culture, in america. (my city has 45% residents belonging to my specific cultural background, in a city of 200,000, everyone knows eachother)

Don_Draper27 · 2019-08-30T23:58:16+00:00

Dozens probably. Truth is you'll NEVER know. Neva' eva'. Best you can do is screen for red flags and wear a rubber.

LeEbinConchShell · 2019-08-30T22:07:01+00:00

ive been a connoisseur of decently attractive sluts my whole life. in high school a squad of sluts we partied with had all fucked around 40 guys by that time. they were all fuckable. yep, its disgusting.

Simpsrgay · 2019-08-31T01:05:44+00:00

Just be safe an assume they slept with a million men.

Wodensnacht · 2019-08-31T01:13:29+00:00

By the age of 25, average white western woman nowadays is probably closer to 20 than 10

HurricaneHugues · 2019-08-31T03:10:30+00:00

You think this is a research center? Who tf has that data?

Young women just fuck. A lot. That's all you need to know. At any given point in space and time, always assume that whatever girl you're talking to has at least 2 fuck buddies. That way you won't get in your feelings as fast

agjrpsl · 2019-08-31T03:00:58+00:00

My friend's niece easily 100+ over the last 5 years. She basically sleeps with every guy and she's only 24

Polojames123 · 2019-08-30T20:47:12+00:00

I'd say about 7.

Vikingcel · 2019-08-30T21:55:59+00:00

All of them

wkndatbernardus · 2019-08-31T00:42:27+00:00

This is like the Tootsie Roll Pop commercial from the 70's where the owl attempts to answer the question of how many licks it takes to get to the center. "The world may never know."

BeeBopJoe · 2019-08-31T02:46:01+00:00

If I had to guess Id say somewhere in the range of 11-15

komprenu · 2019-08-31T05:11:55+00:00

FWIW, for a different perspective, google: twox_how_many_people_have_you_slept_with

Plenty of replies <10, plenty of replies >40...

Consider that when guys think about their past partners, the most promiscuous women are inevitably overrepresented. For the sake of argument, imagine a town where 80% of women have slept with 5 different guys, and 20% have slept with 50 different guys. The vast majority of hookups in this town would involve a promiscuous women even though they're a small minority (0.8 * 5 < 0.2 * 50). The same principle explains why the majority of your facebook friends have more friends than you.

Awokeeleven · 2019-08-31T05:20:55+00:00

Most ”normal” 25 year olds probably slept with 15-30~ here

Variatiion · 2019-08-30T22:00:36+00:00

No one knows,and you never will either.

NumerousImprovements · 2019-08-31T03:27:20+00:00

I’ve had like three or four girls in a row before tell me 20 exactly, so if you ask, expect them to round down. Girls know that we men often care, so they round down the more emotionally invested they are in the outcome of the relationship.

I just don’t ask now. One of Tomassi’s Iron Rules is to never reveal your number and I just don’t care anymore unless I’m vetting for an LTR. Don’t ask.

Not asking is easier said than done though. If you care, that’s a problem, especially if you’re just plating the girl. Their past is theirs. If you want to fuck her now, make your decision based on shit that actually matters. If you want a LTR, then you can ask to find out, but the answer still shouldn’t upset you. It’s just more info for you to make your decision with.

dynospectrum7 · 2019-08-31T05:15:09+00:00

If anyone is giving you an exact number, keep scrolling. Be honest with yourself. That number could be anywhere from 1 to 10 to 100. Are you only dealing with 24 year old Brittney that used to cheer in high school and go to state school? Or have you come across a Fatima that was born in the US but was locked down for the first 20 years of her life? People are different. Do you want a virgin that might be terrible at sex? Or do you want her to bust your nuts and have you feeingl like you just did 10 sets of heavy ass deadlifts? Figure out what you want and get it.

Nfuckedmeup · 2019-08-31T09:10:47+00:00

I had this American girl as a Tinder match during my trip to Spain with my bros. First night we meet and I flirt with her and she shows IOIs but then I tell her that I have someone and that we’re looking for just people to party with and something goes off in her head. She goes to the club and I shit you not, she grinds and dances with every guy in the club including my friends.

Anyways so I plug the girl to my friend we meet her and her friend everyday from there. They have a fling during the vacation and end up fucking the last day we’re there.

I heard the text book cock carousel stuff from her, she was full of red flags. She was 18, had fucked 21 guys (14 of them being in the last 6 months) and she didn’t want anything serious. ’I want to probably settle down when I’m like 30’ she told me. And now my friend is crushing on her when she’s just playing games with him. Fucking great lol.

Protocol_Apollo · 2019-08-31T14:57:13+00:00

Nobody knows, girls fucking know they shouldn’t be sleeping around a lot if they want:

to attract men and so any potential boyfriends.
society’s “respect”.
to not be seen as a slut.

And so, they’ll lie about her count. For her, it gains her NOTHING to tell you the truth.

Worse is, if she does want to tell you the truth, women will manipulate her numbers to which for her, it’s the truth. She will genuinely believe that some of her N counts won’t count for whatever reason eg one night stand, didn’t like him that much.

Vetting through N counts is dead.

However, good news is, you can still tell who’s a slut by interacting with them long enough, girls can’t keep their mouths shut and so they’ll let out a few glimpses of how slutty they are and from there you can figure how slutty they are.

Even if you can’t, it’s very rare for a girl to be LTR material APART from being a slut.

If a girl is a slut (red flag), chances are she’ll have other red flags (for a LTR) that are very hard to hide.

Hoombus · 2019-08-30T23:41:58+00:00

Easily above 30+ it's what they are born to do man

I knew girls at 14 year who had over 50+ and it wasnt even a brag

It's the way life is supposed to be they are programmed to fuck.

nobody_thinks · 2019-08-31T01:25:18+00:00

Start with the "best case" range range [20, 50] (mean 35, standard deviation 15).
Ethnicity: Multiply by (1, 1.5, 2) for (white, hispanic, black) respectively
Family. Multiply by (1, 2) for (healthy, dysfunctional) family respectively.
Father. Multiply by (1, 2) for (strong father, weak father).
(depends if raised in big city or small town but I won't address this - assume big city)
(depends if girl married young or not but I will not address this - assume stayed single)

This is pretty crude because these are not independent variables, but it probably gives pretty good estimates. Maybe good to within 50%. Again all intervals are reported as [mean - std dev, mean + std dev]

white girl from dysfunctional family with soy boy dad: [80-200]
black girl with dysfunctional family with alpha father, [80-200]
hispanic girl with non-dysfunctional family with alpha father: [30-75]
hispanic girl with non-dysfunctional family with beta billy father, [60-150]
white girl with non-dysfunctional family with alpha father: [20, 50]

HelloBello30 · 2019-08-30T22:43:35+00:00

I mean, on average, if you think about it, it would be the same amount of women that the average western man has slept with at age 25... so it's a moot point. It's also irrelevant, you should always be looking for someone who is better than average.

gorillafarmer · 2019-08-30T21:50:43+00:00

I'd say 20 +

[deleted] · 2019-08-30T22:43:54+00:00

I would say 20 plus is a conservative guess. Regardless it doesn't matter. Focus on yourself as that is all that matters.

Wodensnacht · 2019-08-31T01:20:46+00:00

OP the question to ask isn't how many guys they've fucked, but after how many guys is a girls ability to pair bond titally fucked?

I would say the number is btwn 5-10

6sterile6 · 2019-08-31T04:05:31+00:00

Lmfao at people in here saying 20...

Atleast 50 and that’s been generous. No less than 50 I’d say for the average female. Maybe even 100+ For the average

No one way in hell Is it only 20 lmfao

RedditRated · 2019-08-31T04:55:09+00:00

Met my then girlfriend at 18 (same age); she was a Virgin before she met me. We lasted 2yrs; she’s now 21 and has fucked 5 other guys since then (from what her ‘best friend’ told me). So within 1 yr she has slept with 5 men. If she keeps that up, by the time she’s 25 she would have slept with about 20 men.

SpinPlates · 2019-08-31T05:05:17+00:00

The actually avg of all women would be way waaaaay lower than what most redpill guys would think because of minorities who marry and reproduce young. I think a nation wide average would be 3 or 4.

Now, if you were to limit your search results down to girls that men here would be interested in...Typical Beckys and Stacys. Girls that came from an upper middle class household, went to college, have a vibrant social media presence, nice phone, car and daddy's money, listens to the chainsmokers and goes to Europe every summer...Their average body count would probably be between 30 and 40.

onepkvn2 · 2019-08-31T07:07:36+00:00

Depends, does prostitutes count?

redvelvet_oreo · 2019-08-31T07:15:30+00:00

If she is a HB9 I would say anywhere from 20-80. I knew a HB9 that by 24 she had slept with about 70 dudes already.

zazzomicron · 2019-08-31T07:58:02+00:00

Who cares, man?! I could go bag 100 fatties but I'd rather sleep with one girl that I thought was out of my league. Stop looking for shit to get in your way

[deleted] · 2019-08-31T16:20:24+00:00

There are stats on this type of thing collected by the US government, GSS and other organizations. The National Survey of Family Growth by the CDC in particular has a lot of data online that's easily accessible.

From the CDC's National Survey of Family Growth data (PDF: Advance Data No. 362, Page 19, Table 1), here are some relevant numbers regarding men having sex with women:

For ages 20-24:

9.0% - No sexual contact so far in life
6.6% - Has had sex but not in the past 12 months
49.3% - Had sex with exactly one woman in the past 12 months
12.7% - Had sex with exactly two women in the past 12 months
19.3% - Had sex with three or more women in the past 12 months
3.1% - Did not report

For ages 25-29:

4.7% - No sexual contact so far in life
6.7% - Has had sex but not in the past 12 months
67.1% - Had sex with exactly one woman in the past 12 months
6.6% - Had sex with exactly two women in the past 12 months
12.5% - Had sex with three or more women in the past 12 months
2.4% - Did not report

The matching data for girls is in the charts at the end. You can find this document by searching Google for ad362.pdf

Their data also reflected that the median number of lifetime sexual partners for men around 25 was six. For women, it was four.

thenewyorkmind · 2019-08-31T16:47:52+00:00

Not even the devil knows

Xerexes3869 · 2019-08-31T03:41:14+00:00

Why does it even matter? Assume shes a liar. Which she is. Then proceed as it doesn't matter because it doesn't. You should only concern yourself with her behavior towards you. If she provides value, sexual as well as non sexual (satisfies emotional needs and increases smv in case you breakup and want to date someone else) there is no need to publicly judge her for her past. You should only look to extract value because she is doing the same with you. Get into a relationship with her if you want to extract even more value from her. But as soon as she stops providing value kick her to the curb. Maintain frame.

Unpopular_OpinionBot · 2019-08-30T22:03:53+00:00

Maybe 2-3 on average. Of course there will be outliers in either direction.