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Red Pill TheoryLet's Talk Pillow Talk (self.TheRedPill)

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I feel like this isn't talked about enough and I haven't seen any specific mention in the sidebar.

Stop. Talking. After. Sex.

You Mr. Thundercock has slayed Miss Karen after weeks of passing frame and holding shit tests. You've been going into your local gym without swiping your membership because you're alfa AF and been meditating in Tibet to channel your inner Chad.

But the moment you bust your nut and your women lays next to you, you start spouting all your life stories. Now don't get me wrong, good pussy might get you delirious. Feel free to say whatever the fuck you want. But don't start talking about your emotional bitch shit; she doesn't care your daddy spanked you till you were 15.

I apologise if I come across a little feisty, it's just that I had an 8 hour shift with the town thot and she had the nerve to talk shit about this dude who poured out his heart to her. Now here she is the next day telling me how much of a bitch he is and sharing his business with me, shit that he shared with her in confidence and in the confines of his bedroom. But ofcourse this slut doesn't give a fuck because she just thinks her doormat of a pussy was made by God's right hand.

Anyway, this is all to reinforce the importance of frame. Use your "post nut clarity" to plan and execute something productive with your life, not to give validation to some excuse of a female. If you were a rock of a man before the lay but then turn into Kenny the Parrot after, she's going to feed her ego thinking her pussy was so good that she broke you. This is a guarantee that her pussy will remain drier than an Arab's nutsack on Ramadan.

Keep the pillow talk to a minimum. Don't talk about your negatives. Don't talk about your exes. Don't talk about your friends or family. Ofcourse this might be different if she's your LTR but even then what you say must be calculated.

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[–]TheGweatandTewwible 89 points90 points  (7 children)

I mean, there's huge middle ground between just talking and chilling versus telling a gal your life story. So imo, just talk and have normal convo. Don't confuse fellow RP autists even more than they are

[–]esirnus18 24 points25 points  (1 child)

This! After i bust a nut, we're just chilling on the bed and have some interesting convos, you learn a lot from girls after the deed is done. Of Course don't tell her your problems...heck don't tell anyone your problems

[–]AgentSmith1992 14 points15 points  (0 children)

heck don't tell anyone your problems

Whoa there I think an important part of being able to keep yourself together with your woman or any women you're banging is to make sure that you have some buddies who you can talk to about your problems whether they be drinking buddies or just other close friends I think it's important to have those people who you do talk to your problems about

[–]eight-acorn 13 points14 points  (2 children)

If you, as a dude, start "spilling your guts" to a bimbo after one sweaty night after busting a nut in/ on her, you have issues.

  1. You have no real close friends or anyone to lay your shit on, hence the only chance is the forced intimacy of sweaty naked sex. Which is pathetic.
  2. You must be pretty fucking mesmerized by pussy/ sex to think it's some kind of awakening moment. Yeah it could be fantastic but so can food. I don't go back to the chef and tell him about my dead dog. You're not getting laid enough and putting pussy on a pedestal. But it's probably mostly #1.

Life as an adult male --- even with tons of good friends and girls -- every leader/ alpha male will live somewhat of a solitary existence in some respects. Can't really fully share everything with everyone.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well said, the alpha path is lonely

[–]TheGweatandTewwible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. That's why I said there's a lot of middle ground between spilling guts and just chilling. What does "spilling your guts" even mean in this context, anyways? Because I'd like to think that if you at least follow the ground rules of TRP, you should have some common sense and not turn into an absolute simps the moment you bust a nut.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Protip - instead of telling your life story - ask hers!

[–]viensviens 184 points185 points  (6 children)

I'm one of those dudes who like to talk and sometimes I reveal too much unneeded info. As much as during these "bonding" sessions it feels right opening up, I've had plenty of cases where it was used against me later on.. I guess its human after all, to open up our vulnerabilities, since having been able to just talk about superficial stuffs gets boring really fast.. Grandpa once said to me: "speaking is silver - silence is gold" he continued "think about how many times you've regretted opening your mouth.. and think how many times you've regretted just not saying anything.." if only these relationships lasted for a lifetime.. then it would be different.. but since it's a matter of weeks, months and maybe.. couple of years, one must be very specific regarding whom to open up.. its sad bros..

[–]rainier-351[🍰] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Your grandpa is spot on! Wish I had learned this years ago. Before beginning my TRP journey I would try to emulate the “players” in my small hometown. Their game was basically run your mouth non stop and to compete with each other you would talk louder than the guy next to you. I wasted a lot of years doing this.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 74 points75 points  (0 children)

its human after all, to open up our vulnerabilities

Not to your girl, and not to your children. In both cases, it's just an inappropriate audience.

A parent who "opens up" to his kids about how he's worried he might get fired and they'll be homeless is a bad parent. A man who opens up to his woman about something similar is an idiot boyfriend.

Your grandpa was right, but I'll add this: get yourself some guy friends; some drinking buddies. You can talk about this stuff with guys, but don't lay it on your girl or your children. You should be a rock to both of them - act like nothing bothers you.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why was the Soviet spy program so effective?

Because they would have women seduce enemy officers and dignitaries and then they would open up to these women and spill state secrets.

Don't be like foreign officers/dignitaries - she may be a Russian spy.

[–]miserablesisyphus 3 points4 points  (1 child)

After you slay it, just lay down and pull her to you and wrap your arm around her. She'll almost certainly curl up and put her hand on your chest and wrap her leg around yours. Put your other hand behind your head and bask in the glory. Now just shut your mouth. You might want to complement her, thank her, or whatever but just let the silence linger. She'll likely ask you a question or comment how great it was and without using words just give a quick "mmhm", etc.. Lay there with her until she gets up to clean off or whatever and then smile as she walks bare ass to the bathroom. Assuming you killed it, she's going to be rambling some non coherent shit about how great it was. You know, you do it all the time. Enjoy watching and listening to them gush over it.

[–]frognads 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nailed it. Even better is when she goes "what the fuck did you do to my legs!"

[–]Mayin_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is fine to open up if a person makes fun of you for who you are, with a goal of hurting you in mind they are probably a shiity person that are not worth the time of day.

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 253 points254 points  (13 children)

Speak for yourself, I continue to game even after I've shot my load. Never stop, bros.

[–]RedHoodhandles 162 points163 points  (10 children)

As your username implies, you damn well should..

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 62 points63 points  (8 children)

It may be skinnier than a cigarette but it's incredibly long bruh

[–]TheGweatandTewwible 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Pencil dick bois unite

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Come brother, let us gingerly touch tips!

[–]masterpiece00 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Average isn't measured in length for nothing, 6 inches is close enough to it.

[–]Mayin_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My pinki is thicker then a cig not by much though.

[–]1SexdictatorLucifer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same sitch here. No sensation other than my pounding spearhead. Straight to the cervix, no bullshit. True masculine design.

[–]shark30k -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Reminded me of Something xxxtentacion said in an interview. RIP x.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

After I bust my nut, I just want her to leave and to do my own thing. My patience wears thin....

I dunno how you do it.

[–]ILikeToBurnMoney 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to give her the good ol' "And, how was I?"

[–]bearholdingbeer 197 points198 points  (25 children)

AWALT. Its not different in LTR if you want her to respect and look up to you, as you said, Mr. Chad Thundercock just fucked his girl and now its time to move onto something productive, hand her napkins, take a shower and do whatever you feel like doing but dont ever share your emotions especially after sex.

Good post

[–]2CasaDeFranco 39 points40 points  (1 child)

My natural impulse after sex was to lay back, light a cigarette and enjoy a deeper conversation.

I no longer smoke, but still I find a woman is most honest when she's naked and physically exhausted.

Often in the silence they just reveal truths they otherwise wouldn't.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it just me or do all women say they're tired half way through sex, when i'm just getting warmed up.....

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Bruh I don't know about you but post nut sleepy time is best sleepy time.

[–]PandaLitter 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You're gonna get sperm jacked if you sleep right after nutting

[–]cx-s 22 points23 points  (3 children)

I have had surprised reaction from girls when i told them that if they want they can stay (basically, stay or leave does not matter to me). even some of my friends were suprised when i said, i've had ONS sleeping over.

what is the stance of TRP on letting the girl sleepover in a ONS. they usually spend the night and leave in the morning at the same time i am leaving for work.

[–]ForrestAlpha 44 points45 points  (1 child)

let them stay over if you want. i let plates sleep over. doesnt mean she means anything to me or im gonna get attached - if anything the more time u spend w/ a girl the more likely she is to get on your nerves.

i let them sleep over and then the next night theres another girl in my bed anyhow

[–]SamVimesFucksDimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm the same way. If they want to stay over they're welcome to if they're on the upper end of attractiveness. I like sleeping with a person, and morning sex is always a good start to the day. Plus it sets the hook a bit

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18 59 points60 points  (9 children)

This is very important. I think it can signal low status and scarcity. You're telling everything, which shows that maybe sex isn't a common occurrence for you.

It's also low status. She's suddenly higher in the hierarchy and is worthy to hear all your inner shit.

Why would a man of higher status start telling all his secrets to someone lower in the food chain?

Women are solipsistic, so they only give a shit about how it makes them feel. You could be telling your most intimate stuff, but if it makes her feel less attracted she might tell all her friends you're a sappy loser.

[–]masterpiece00 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Who cares? tell her everything, lose her, find a new girl and do it all again.
I feel like people pretend to follow rp, and then get paranoid over 'saying the wrong thing' to them and 'losing' the pussy.

[–]Trposh 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s not binary. For those who are already in the top 1% and have women lining up, then sure who gives a fuck; for the rest who are working their way up, not disclosing too much is still a valuable strategy.

[–]good_guy_submitter 9 points10 points  (1 child)

make a bad decision that forfeits your previous efforts

Great idea.

Next, give out your atm card and pin to the girl too.

Money? Who cares. You got another paycheck coming.

[–]masterpiece00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes you're getting the hang of it now.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha, it's not paranoia it's simply something you don't do.

Why would you tell a chick you barely know all of your shit?

[–]moltenw 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't be a sperg.

I've seen Fedora tipping autists in college reminding the teacher about a homework and walking around shouting stupid shit. Yeah, they had "IDGAF" mentality by your definition, but they were retards nonetheless and everyone laughed at them behind their backs. Did they care? Probably not, but again - they were still retarded and didn't do themselves any favors by acting that way.

Social awareness matters.

[–]i-like-vagina 1 points [recovered]  (1 child)

Why would a man of higher status start telling all his secrets to someone lower in the food chain?

Because there is nothing you can use against me. I own everything. Thats high status. I own my losses, i own my successes. The way you think in terms of food-chain is so insecure. From my expierience most girls cant impress me, i mean most people in general, why would i fear their judgements?! Makes no sense. I dont care if a bitch thinks im weak. I happens rarely only with the most insecure as a defence mechanism. Those girls are pretty low in status i can tool them effortlessly anytime. lol.

    [–]jojo244 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    that makes no sense. there's nothing to be gain by it other then feeling as if your emotional neediness was fulfilled, which isn't a good sign because it shows you're emotionally dependent and thats bad. you should only up about a specific aspect of yourself that your partner can relate to. For instance, if you both know how its like to deal with divorce but that conversation should come naturally if the topic naturally arises. You should never just spill the beans unsolicitied (or even solicited). These are issues you should deal with or solve by yourself or through professional help. she is not your psychologist. She did not sleep with you because she cared about your issues but because you came across as if you didnt have issues and seemed cool and confident.

    [–]Chaddeus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why was the Soviet spy program so effective?

    Because they got females to seduce high ranking officials and these officials would then tell the women state secrets (they didn't know that the women were spies).

    Don't be like a sappy high ranking official - remember she might be a Russian spy!

    [–]serynada 1 points [recovered]  (4 children)

    had a hoe accuse me of toxic masculinity last night as i smacked her ass and she laughed lmao

      [–]LLL3peat 44 points45 points  (13 children)

      You can talk and have a conversation after sex. Jeez you guys a really are still in the anger phase and don’t realize being human is being human. Share a couple things to create a little bond with your plate but you don’t have to say your whole life story lol. when it’s time to go it’s time to go and you don’t share more until next time if that.

      I swear this sub is becoming so binary it’s not even funny

      [–]thebadguy89 15 points16 points  (3 children)

      Lol this is true but most of the time girls are very good at asking questions acting like they want to know you better. The instant you tell them everything they get bored.

      Pillow talk should mainly consist of comforting and asking them questions about themselves. If it's the first fuck then they need a decent amount of comfort so that they don't feel like you're treating them like a pump&dump slut.

      [–]thetrpdino 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Hi man could you expand a bit on the ways to create comfort during pillow talk? I feel like I could improve this a lot

      [–]good_guy_submitter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Tell them that they were good at sex compared to most of the other dozen girls you've been with in the last week.

      Either this way this true.

      Either you haven't been with any other girls so that makes her good compared to nothing.

      Or, you really have been with 12 in the last week, and since you havent left yet so shes good enough that you're interested in banging her again.

      [–]xjx545 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Lol this is true but most of the time girls are very good at asking questions acting like they want to know you better.

      Ding ding. Not all women do this, it's a personality type, but a lot do. They ask pointed and personal questions that are frankly not appropriate. Weak men tend to answer these questions matter-of-fact and instantly out themselves as losers. Red pilled men tend to pass the shit tests and get the girl. I would say the next level beyond Red Pill would be to simply filter these women altogether, since they don't have enough class to respect social boundaries.

      [–]serynada 1 points [recovered]  (2 children)

      i think you kinda missed the point though, dude. the point was not to speak unattractively after sex, not to be literally mute.

      it’s not a “binary” idea, it’s actually a very important one. you’re nitpicking and being pedantic unnecessarily. this is a message a lot of guys need to hear and internalize.

      it applies outside of the bedroom as well, but post-nut it’s a common, tricky terrain to navigate. a woman senses your vulnerability and will use your momentary weakness to dig her claws into, test your frame, and extract compromising information.

        [–]AAtmozfears 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        What are some examples of unattractive talk? Like things you're constantly worried about? Eg work or study commitments? Things other males say to you that make you feel insecure?

        [–]TheEgyptianConqueror 0 points1 point  (4 children)

        With one exception, no woman I've ever told anything even mildly personal to took it well. The one is my only female friend and acts more like a guy

        [–]LLL3peat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Then that’s your fault. Female friend that doesn’t care about you or nothing you have to say isn’t a friend. Drop them if the friendship or relationship doesn’t benefit you at all

        [–]TheEgyptianConqueror 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Well that's exactly what I did. BP me tried to be friends with women. Now I just have the one (and a half) and they are more guys than they are girls

        [–]xjx545 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Find some more close male friends. As long as you're not unloading your feelings on them all the time, most guys will tend to listen and give good analytical feedback on the situation.

        [–]notaselfdrivingcar 29 points30 points  (3 children)

        weeks of passing frame and holding shit tests

        You mean Passing shit tests and holding frame?

        [–]Zone_Box 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Was thinking the same thing.

        [–]BusterVadge 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        If it's a one and done, I'm more apt to show some emotions. It helps build comfort and we all know that comfort helps thwart off false accusations. Just don't go full retard. It's not rocket science.

        [–]cartersweeney 7 points8 points  (3 children)

        I sometimes talk about Brexit. Is that OK

        [–]amphix339 1 points [recovered]  (2 children)

        Nah bro, keep your political affiliations for facebook

          [–]cartersweeney 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          As long as she's happy to do frictionless trade with my hard border it's all good

          [–]russian_nigger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          talk about building the wall next

          [–]Andgelyo 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          +1 after fucking my girl yesterday somehow got into talking about dick sizes and the whole conversation fell into this rabbit hole of my insecurities (from my dick size, how goodlooking I am compared to her past boyfriends, to my insecurities about paying off my school loans). Would not recommend talking about anything that can put you in a negative light. Doesn’t matter if it’s a thot or LTR, don’t do it. You will be portrayed as weak.

          [–]xjx545 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          It's a shit test. Women don't care about your dick size or what you look like. A good fraction of women have fucked other women, and trust me, they had a smaller dick than you. This is gonna be controversial on this sub because of the emphasis on lifting. Being in shape and going to the gym is still super important, but having a chiseled body won't magically fix your insecurities, it's about taking care of yourself.

          [–]hazelstein 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          her pussy will remain drier than an Arab's nutsack on Ramadan.

          I chuckled. Great reminder. Whoever been on redpill for more than 6 months should know this.

          [–]EdmondDaunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          True yet there is also the CRP - Common Ramadan Problem. Because you are swearing off your vices you get way more female attention. Not muslim myself, just heard this a lot from muslim friends.

          [–]ForrestAlpha 19 points20 points  (2 children)

          The only thing you should talk about after you dick a girl down is how damn fucking good you just dicked her down.

          [–]sebastianconcept 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          Even that you should be careful not to pass the impression that you are requesting validation.

          [–]Kn31 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          "Shorty wanna tell me secrets about a rap niga, I told that bitch it's more attractive when you hold it down"

          [–]3chazthundergut 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Yup. Shut the fuck up fellas.

          Pull back a little and she will chase your love by being more giving and feminine.

          If you enter into your feminine frame (by pouring out your heart and soul, caressing her, etc) she will respond by entering into her masculine frame.

          The more you behave like a man, the more she will behave like a woman

          [–]ethical_pa 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          I strongly agree with the specifics:

          don't start talking about your emotional bitch shit;

          Don't talk about your negatives. Don't talk about your exes. Don't talk about your friends or family.

          But post sex validation can be a powerful tool for the long game. Attractive girls are constantly getting compliments as thinly veiled bribes for sex. They know it. They're "so pretty" and everything they do is "so interesting!" (thirsty ass chodes). But if you compliment her when sex no longer is on the table, then it can have much more of an emotional impact on her. IE, she knows it's not a bribe. She knows it's meant "just for her" and not for her body, the way she looks, or sex. As a high value guy, this is a great gift you can give a woman, and she will love it.

          Ok, so you may not want or care to do this if she's simply a thot to you, but I just thought I'd mention it anyway. I mean, girls have done it to me. "You're so confident!", "So hot!", etc. It's validation. It's her rewarding my frame and honestly feels nice. Why not return the gift? As long as you recognize it's a validation game and don't get too wrapped up in it... Stay focused as a man, but appreciate the small things.

          [–]serynada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          good point. making a “genuine” compliment post sex will be taken more seriously, true. i’d just add that that tactic can be used to be machiavellian rather than genuinely complimenting the girl e.g to lead the girl on or sell her a dream to keep the plate spinning.

          [–]menoyzoe 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          I'd say that your game is still weak if you think that sex is the end goal of the red pill

          [–]MetalxZebra 1 points [recovered]  (1 child)

          Take a second & go re-read the sidebar description.

            [–]SMRII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Sounds like you should. Sex is just a by product of being the best version of yourself you can be. The principal of TRP

            [–]KillaJewels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Used to do this nearly every girl without fail. Sharing way too much (early or especially without being asked) takes out any mystery = lower attraction. It also communicates that you have weak boundaries and that she doesn't have to do anything to earn your attention.

            [–]JohnIan101 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Keep the pillow talk to a minimum. Don't talk about your negatives. Don't talk about your exes.

            Why would any sane man do that?

            [–]thetrpdino 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            This morning I was thinking about this subject and wondering if giving information after sex can also also be used as a reward for the sex in some way.

            A FWB slept over last night. I'm not really giving her much info about personal stuff and am definitely not being an emotional bitch with her.

            However last night (after sex) she asked me for the second time about the stretch/grow marks on my abdominal. (the ones that came from my time of being a fat fuck) I told her it wasn't anything special and ended the coveration, but I know she'll keep asking, since she's very curious.

            Would you use this as some kind of reward for good behavior, since it isn't that difficult to find out what the marks are or never tell her anything about it?

            [–]NYCMusicMarathon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I told her it wasn't anything special and ended the coveration, but I know she'll keep asking, since she's very curious.

            This could be considered a Shit Test.

            Be careful giving away info that doesn't need to be said.

            [–]_DeezNuts714_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You could say you were overweight as a kid/growing up

            [–]herpaderpadont 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Shit happens ALL OF THE TIME. Women talk, that's what they do. If they are talking about other guys, they will talk about your dumb ass as well.

            If you absolutely need someone to lay your shit on...get a therapist.

            Use your post nut clarity to plan an escape route.

            [–]Imhaveapoosy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Next thing I know red pill is gonna teach me how to cum too. I mean I wouldn't mind or anything.

            [–]1redHussar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Thats silly. Post sex talk is usually good moment to get honest answers

            [–]serynada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            but you’re speaking to being on offense. the OP is discussing defensive strategy.

            [–]MotiMorphosys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            For n00bs, yes. As a rule.

            As many people have mentioned, I usually do talk after sex.. only about things that interest me though. After you've spun a few plates, treat this one on a case-by-case basis. Some girls literally WANT to leave/you to leave afterwards. but most aren't going to flip into relationship mode just because you have a conversation. One loves to take a shower with me.. one I trade phones with and we fuck with each others' tinder matches. Sometimes we watch a collection of my favorite funny youtube videos.

            Spending the night is still always a no-no for me... unless she's driven more than a half hour, and it's negotiated before plans are set.

            [–]Marcozy14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Great post. I'd like to clarify from the back and forth argument going on in the comments. From my experience, if I pillow talk with a woman of higher SMV than myself, then yes- she will likely lose attraction.

            When I've pillow talked with women of lower SMV than myself, they usually get very excited that I'm opening up to them, and they become hooked. They also become conditioned to keep wanting to have sex because that is the only time they get to see that side of me.

            tldr: Don't pillow talk with woman of high/higher SMV than yourself. If she's lower than you, do what you want, she'll likely get more hooked with the pillow talk, but will most likely be hooked regardless.

            [–]gmikeygdizzle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Use your lesser plates to do beta shit and experiment. I always reveal my soft side to a plate that’s low in my rotation

            [–]Standgrounding 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            As an extrovert I find it difficult to "just shut up".

            [–]russian_nigger 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            same here, i obviously don't talk about shit that's none of her business, but I'll have a good convo every time and they love it. then they want me to be their bf at which point shit falls apart because that ain't me, shorty

            [–]Standgrounding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            At least you're likeable lol. I often come across as dumb, naive and obnoxious, and I don't think red pill can help me much here.

            [–]afterthe_fapocalypse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Guys who confide to loose women are lighting the fuse to a bomb and rolling it toward their reputation. I made this mistake. No woman you sleep with who is not your wife can be trusted, and even then, you have to take precautions. When I slept with her and just stayed, that was one thing. But gushing about insecurities after sleeping with someone is a betrayal of frame. The woman is now forced into a maternal role. And naturally hypergamy kicks in because the guy beta-ed himself.

            [–]EdmondDaunts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I think it also highlights another point: people in general don’t want to hear about anything but themselves. It’s not their fault, it’s the default human condition

            Save your talk for true friends

            [–]i-am-the-prize 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            post nut, do bond, if you want to have your LTR (oxytocin) bond with you or make the plate want you more. just be gaurded. know that what you say post nut is not "in a magic cone of silence" just because you're more naked than usual with her when you speak.

            as my OYS stated, i've come to think of my Frame not as a suit of armor i have to remember to put on (and i'm weaker when i take it off) rather the skin I am in. So always maintain Frame, especially in traditional times of vulnerability.

            [–]ThriceLeggedPirate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            It seems like this post is common sense until you actually feel like you did everything right and get your nut. All of a sudden, she's in your face asking "what are you thinking about babe?" and you break without realizing it. 6 hours later she's getting off her shift at work and tells you its over so she can fuck the next Chad who won't spill his guts. LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.

            [–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Use your "post nut clarity" to plan and execute something productive with your life

            After a wild night with a nurse at a sanatorium, Schrodinger kicked her out and came up with the wave theory of the atom.

            Be like Schrodinger

            [–]Andgelyo 6 points7 points  (4 children)

            There was a time when I would go to the gym and the gym employee (Adrian) would just let me go without swiping my membership, not gonna lie, I felt alpha AF whenever I would just bolt in and he would let me just walk in haha I miss that guy. Too bad he transferred out to another gym.

            [–]kantianluvboat 25 points26 points  (3 children)

            Did you at least get to suck his dick before he left?

            [–]Andgelyo 21 points22 points  (2 children)

            Nah I should’ve though, maybe he would’ve gave me access to free tanning lol #thotlife

            [–]Glassland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This is how you properly agree and amplify, gentlemen.

            [–]TheManWhoSlays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            It’s funny cause I was think about this just 9 hours ago after fucking a new possible plate for the second time.

            I was laying there and she kept rambling on and on about how dramatic and stupid her friends are, while she herself kept saying “I’m not a girl who likes negative vibes” and that typical bullshit.

            I just kept laying there with her resting her head in my chest. Saying shit like “oh shit that’s a crazy story” or “haha that’s pretty funny.” Not because I didn’t want to talk, but when I’m post coital I’m practically mindless and can’t really say much.

            Is that what your supposed to do?

            [–]masterpiece00 3 points4 points  (4 children)

            You Mr. Thundercock has slayed Miss Karen after weeks of passing frame and holding shit tests. You've been going into your local gym without swiping your membership because you're alfa AF and been meditating in Tibet to channel your inner Chad.

            This is weird and none of it makes somebody 'alpha', sorry to say.

            [–]redditor67tny 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            i fuck with this post, but it’s posts like these that makes reddit wanna ban us

            i obviously gain immense value from it, just saying

            [–]okuli 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            posts like these that makes reddit wanna ban us

            What exactly? All he said is to not get too comfortable after sex.

            [–]redditor67tny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            “don’t talk about your emotional bitch shit.” “the town thot” “her pussy of a doormat” “daddy spanked you until you were 15.” Just some specific ways the message was communicated that could make people at Reddit be like “woah that’s bullying and sexism!1!” even though there’s actual value for men to take from

            [–]restorerofmorality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Now here she is the next day telling me how much of a bitch he is and sharing his business with me, shit that he shared with her in confidence and in the confines of his bedroom.

            important point, they do not have any concept of trust and honor as we do, betrayal is simply in their nature

            [–]chasingexcellence 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You had to wait weeks to smash??

            [–]Just_Isaak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            The story of Sampson from the Bible does a great job outlining the same scenario.

            [–]WadKnock 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Well technically if we pump and dump so many whores because we're right chads, getting some load off our chests with like 2 of them should not have too much of an impact other than making us feel better right?

            [–]10211799107 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Spilling your emotions is reserved for your close male friends granted you come up with a solution and not just bitching.

            Women don't respect men who act like women.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I apologise if I come across a little feisty, it's just that I had an 8 hour shift with the town thot and she had the nerve to talk shit about this dude who poured out his heart to her. Now here she is the next day telling me how much of a bitch he is and sharing his business with me, shit that he shared with her in confidence and in the confines of his bedroom. But ofcourse this slut doesn't give a fuck because she just thinks her doormat of a pussy was made by God's right hand.

            Do you think he would have cared if it had been the other way around?

            [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            she had the nerve to talk shit about this dude who poured out his heart to her. Now here she is the next day telling me how much of a bitch he is and sharing his business with me, shit that he shared

            She did exactly what you rightfully advised not to do. She lost girl game because she felt the thrill of an AlphaFux (you that moment)

            Women reveal the whole game to men who make them wet. They cant help it. Nothing will Redpill a man like being a bitches AFux once.

            Most men wont ever get there

            [–]10211799107 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Not barfing up your emotional bullshit is correct, but you're missing the point of the period after you fucked and "laying there"

            [–]omarbradley42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Turk's nutsack overflow on ramadan.

            [–]StevenMcballsack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I just try to plan my escape immediately after.

            [–]oldboldpoet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I understand the rationale behind the anti-marriage animus on this sub, but it must be sad to not have someone you can share everything with in a post-coital chat.

            [–]UnbreakableButts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Weeks? I think that's way too much time invested in anything other than a high payout client.

            [–]triavatar 1 point2 points  (15 children)

            Muslim, not Arab. Plenty of Arab Christians

            [–]masterpiece00 -5 points-4 points  (14 children)

            Who cares, all third world peasants beneath society.

            [–]SerbianChadnik 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            Christianity and Western civilization started in the middle East. The Arabian peninsula today has the highest standard of living in the world. Take a trip to Dubai sometime or visit the ancient quarters of Baghdad, Damascus, or Istanbul. I promise, it will improve your opinion of them especially in contrast to the shining metropoli of Detroit, Baltimore, or Jackson, Mississipi.

            [–]TheRealCher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Western civilization started in Greece/northern Europe. Egypt and Mesopotamia weren't created by Arabs. The Arabian peninsula is wealthy because of oil not productivity. Istanbul was made by Greeks and Romans, not Turks, and Europe is far more beautiful than Baghdad or Damascus. Much respect to Arabs and Muslims but let's not act like the middle-east is as civilized as the West.

            [–]Whopper_Jr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Iran literally means Aryan

            [–]masterpiece00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            So terrorist street shitters in other words.

            [–]triavatar 0 points1 point  (8 children)

            Very very technically, Arabs invented society.

            [–]TheRealCher 0 points1 point  (7 children)

            No, they didn't. Egypt and Mesopotamia only became Arab after the Arab conquests.

            [–]triavatar 0 points1 point  (6 children)

            You mean the Muslim conquests? Because like I said, there is a lot more history of non-Muslim Arabs than there is of Muslim Arabs. Remember, Islam is the most recent abrahamic religion and only about 1500 years old. People were settling in the fertile crescent long before there was ever a Mohammed.

            [–]TheRealCher 0 points1 point  (5 children)

            No, I meant Arab conquests often also called the Early Muslism Conquests. Before Islam and the subsequent unification of Arabs they were little more than warring nomadic tribes. Egypt was created by ethnic Egyptians and Mesopotamia was created by Akkadians and Sumerians. During the Rashidun and Umayyad caliphates the Arabs spread into their newly conquered territories but it was only under the Abbasids that they began extensively intermixing with the native populations causing widespread Arabization. Arabs by no means invented society.

            [–]triavatar 0 points1 point  (4 children)

            Okay I have a few points I'd like to bring up.

            First, states do not "become" Arab, if anything, the population gradually shifts towards whoever is in control and that process takes time. What happened to those states is that they were conquered by a bloody savage and were placed under his territory after losing.

            Second, way before any of the Abrahamic religions were a thing, people settled in the Levant region of the fertile crescent. Those people are the ethnic root of a significant portion of the current "Arab" population (please don't equate Saudi Arabia/the Arabian Peninsula with Arabs, it's simply wrong and foolish) and since the fertile crescent is perceived by many anthropologists as the location of the first human settlement, Arabs invented society.

            [–]TheRealCher 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, arabization is a gradual process but the people of the fertile crescent absolutely did become Arab over time. Secondly I'm not talking about states but nations.

            The original inhabitants of the fertile crescent were not Arabs. They were Semites, yes, but not all Semites are Arabs and although they now form much of the Arab nation they didn't at the time when they created society. And I'm obviously not equating Saudi Arabia with Arabs. Before you start running your mouth about Arab history you should at least read the wikipedia page on Arabs as a primer as it would correct many of the misconceptions you hold.

            [–]triavatar 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            What I know is because of my ethnicity as a Syrian, and what is reflected as common knowledge among many modern levantine Arabs. When you refer to semites, those are the people that I am referring to as the progenitors of society.

            It is quite important to contrast the two due to the fact that being Semitic isn't as simply distinguishable from Arab as an ethnicity. Before Arabic was invented, nearly all Arabs spoke Aramaic or variations of Aramaic. Which made nearly all Arabs Semites.

            [–]TheRealCher 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            ...All Arabs are Semites, not all Semites are Arabs. And yes, as a Syrian Arab some of your ancestors are the progenitors of society but not the Arab portion of your ancestors.

            [–]MOSFETBJT 1 points [recovered]  (1 child)

            Is it okay if I fall asleep afterwards?

              [–]serynada 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              yes, but make sure you trust her first ;)