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I'm 36, wife also 36, married for 3 years, together for 3.5 years. 1 child (2 year old).

Discovered red pill 1y ago. Started serious lifting, but major fucked up with frame building. Went insane butthurt super mega turbo Rambo 10000 and things got a lot worse then they were before redpill. Almost destroyed my marriage. Slowly rebuilding now, without ramboing.

Height 192cm (6 feet 3.6 inch), Weight 96 kg (211 lbs), bf estimation between 12-16%.

Squat 3x4: 107.5kg (237 lbs)

DL 1x4: 137.5kg (303 lbs)

BP 3x5: 102.5 kg (226 lbs)

OHP 3x4: 60.5kg (138 lbs)

Pendlay Row 5x5: 85kg (187 lbs)

Chinup 3x5: +20kg (+44 lbs) added

Finished MMLSLP, The Rational male, NMMNG 2x, WISNIFG, The Unchained Man: The Alpha Male 2.0, Sex God Method.

Currently reading BANG.

So recently I've read Sex God Method and liked the book a lot. It's very informative and easy to read.

But reading about this guy's comprehensive and abundant humble-brag of sexual adventures got me thinking about the topic of vaginal orgasms and me still being a sex noob with it.

So he talks a lot about making a girl cum on his dick and he seem's to have mastered it as something that happens almost effortlessly for him and his woman.

So as I understand, for it to happen he has all 4 elements of DEVI covered, followed with good foreplay and **long period of vaginal sex*\* , but he mentions that sometimes even this is not necessary and he gets her to cum in first few dick thrusts.

So here is my case:

My wife never had a vaginal orgasm. She says (thinks) she is not able to have it, that she had one in her life and that she is afraid that she never will. She expressed that she would like to experience this, but is also sad about the possibility that she (allegedly) is physically not capable of having it.

I'm extremely pumped up regarding the possibility of making her cum vaginally. I want to experience the feeling of her cumming on my dick.

After reading the SMG, I realized that I have 1 (probably more than 1) major problem that's holding me back in getting even close to achieving this. I usually can't fuck strait for more that 3-5 minutes (without pulling out and taking breaks) cause it's a 1 way ticket to Ejaculationville for me. So I feel that first I need to address this inability to control my arousal. I don't know how to start though. Maybe with controlled and deep breathing during sex?

In last 3 years, there were 2 situations where she told me "O my god, I feel like I could cum if you keep this up". In both situations I was fucking her doggystyle and she was extremely horny. However, her saying things like that, made me loose my cool instantly and exploding inside her in 5 seconds like a horny virgin.

So what normally happens when we fuck is: I eat her out and she has a clitoral orgasm. No big deal, I like it, it makes me horny and I'm not doing it solely for her.

Problem? Well, even clitoral orgasm from oral sex is not always easy for her. She is often in her head worrying about stupid stuff like am I doing it but not really want to, does she smell bad, do we have enough time, will she last too long and "ruin everything" and so on. She sometimes takes even 45 minutes and it stops being fun for me.

So this is where it gets interesting - I asked her if she's fantasizing about something when I eat her out and for quite a long time she would just blush and told me she's ashamed to talk about it. So around a year ago she confessed that she always has one of these two fantasies:

  1. me fucking her and another woman at the same time.
  2. me fucking another women or two other women while she is watching us.

Another women in the fantasy is either a girl that we both know that she thinks is interested in me (either this being true or just her hamster thinking that this women want me); or they are just some made up girls that she imagined.

She also told me that the girls in the fantasy always do "slutty" and forbidden stuff - they do anal, they squirt. they do ass to mouth, and in the fantasy I treat them like whores they are. I never kiss them and I never cum in their pussy, only in their ass or on their face/mouth. They are always blondes.

In contrast, in the fantasy I cum in her vaginally, I kiss her and tell her I love her, and that I want to be with her, and I sometimes pick her as my favorite over this other bitches.

I find this shit very interesting, as this could just be a confirmation about women being aroused by possibility of competition with other women, fighting for a man (of value) and feeling a thrill when she wins this competition. This could also indicate her deep rooted belief that some forms of sex are bad, dirty and unacceptable for a good girl (anal, squirt, atm, mouth and face cumshot), so she creates "slut and whore" characters so she can think about it freely. She did anal with me before (avoids it for last 6 months) but sometimes felt "dirty" after doing it. Same thing is true for mouth and face cumshot.

So my plan for sex is to focus more on Emotion and Immersion from DEVI and also to practice ejaculation control for penetration longevity.

Maybe a good way for Immersion would be transferring slut/good girl threesome fantasy from oral sex to vaginal sex. I could create a story and keep telling the story while fucking her.

I'm really interested in you guys experiences with vaginal orgasms and how the fuck you manage to do it. I appreciate your honest input.

Edit: Thanks for comments. I realize I might be wanting this for all the wrong reasons and that I could adjust my perspective.


[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red29 points30 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

There are women who orgasm via vaginal stimulation.

There are women who orgasm via clit stimulation.

There are women who orgasm via vaginal or clit stimulation equally.

There are women who orgasm stronger via clit stimulation than vaginal.

There are women who orgasm stronger via vaginal stimulation than clit.

There are women who orgasm via anal stimulation.

There are women who orgasm via.......

None of this has anything to do with the man.

You see where I am going with this?

The only time it is you, is when she cant come at all.

[–]go-RED-go[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I do have problems with sexual validation seeking and associatting my self-worth with womens orgasms and my "performance", allthough I became aware this is unhealthy I'm still struggling with it.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You will realize that once the validation goes away that you can last as long as you want during sex. When I was all up in my and her head about this stuff I couldn’t last more than two minutes doggystyle. Once I finally got the validation seeking out of the way sex just became fun and I could have my way with her and not cum.

You have a ways to go. All the tools are in the sidebar. The problem is making your wife cum vaginally is a stupid goal and likely just to stroke your ego. Once you have confidence you can kill your ego and move on to bigger and better things.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is making your wife cum vaginally is a stupid goal and likely just to stroke your ego.

Nothing wrong with this. Fitchick was in the "I can only come orally" group when we first started dating.

Now she comes for me any way I want. Even in the car while I am driving down the highway and use nothing by my two fingers.

I viewed it as a fun little challenge.

[–]BostonBrakeJob4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Reframe it.

Sure, you feel 10 foot tall and bullet proof when you can give a woman a mind blowing orgasm.

But it's not all bad to want to make her do that either. If it comes from a place of wanting a mutually enjoyed sex life and experiencing a woman's desire for your own pleasure, and the validation from it is nothing more than icing on the cake...then so be it. It's all that "I ain't shit unless I can fuck for 4 hours and make her gush all over the bed" bs that's gonna show through in your actions and be a real buzz kill for just about any woman. She doesn't want to be approached like the special move combo on Mortal Combat either.

Try a cock ring or some of those herbal pills the middle eastern dudes like to sell at their mini marts for stamina. As you get better at getting out of your head, stamina may increase too.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Heavy squats are the best thing for sexual stamina.

Period.

[–]BostonBrakeJob0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Percocets are the best thing for sexual stamina.

ftfy

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean if we want to get technical stims (meth) is the best.

But srs having control of your pelvic floor muscles you can stop the O from happening if you want.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

this or an ssri lol

[–]resolutions31620 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She, she, she, she, she, she, she

Get the fuck out of your wife’s head.

[–]RicoDunne5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your wife's favorite sex position should give you a clue about what part of her vagina being stimulated is more pleasurable for her. Women typically like doggy style, because it hits their G-spot. Try aiming for that next time while doing doggy. If you do missionary, ride a bit higher in the saddle so your strokes pull on the upper part of her labia which can massage the Clitoris. That's all technique, but as you read SGM, you know technique is only part of the show that a SG does. Sex is in a woman's head and that needs to be stimulated by continually being in frame, gaming your wife /kino, and being physically attractive to her outside of the bedroom even before actually fucking her.

Immersion is a non-verbal (game) way of communicating love and passion for her. Get her into your immersion experience and she will want to orgasm with you. Encourage her to pleasure herself while your doing her. My wife won't jill-off privately, but when she is immersed in the moment she will without hesitation to reach orgasm.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fantasies are about what she wants.

Especially being your little anal slut.

There is a lot to eating pussy and ramping a woman up and it really has nothing to do with concentrating on her clit for four days.

The book you are reading is a good primer, but not the end all.

2 orgasms or three tonight, means she is thinking about it all day tomorrow, regardless of the picture you have painted of her in your head of the woman that doesn’t want to fuck nightly. Or, that can’t get off or won’t come vaginally.

We see that you live to get her to get off sexually, but what about what you want ?

Do you have a life ? Or, is this all about her ?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

My wife doesn't normally come form vaginal only but when it does happen it's because of tingles, aggression and dominance. Usually random quickies in the bathroom. I can feel the angle when I am hitting gspot and I just go hard and fast but not trying to make her cum, it's when I want to cum. I don't give a shit if she does and then she does. You can't force it, it has to happen on its own. I have pounded her for 45 minutes and still not made her cum. Pull out a vibrator and put something in her ass and it's seconds. Every bitch has a different pussy, fuck for you.

[–]RPWolfAlpha_as_Wolf_2.00 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This! My wife is the same, she cums much harder by clit stimulation but can cum vaginally. It always plays out by usually being a quickie or just a dominant caveman. It always ends with her cumming and asking me to cum in her as she cums. If I manage to time it right its a leg shaker on her end.

[–]pussykiller0090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why did you put in her ass,sir?

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She doesn’t come for you because she just came when Chad fucked her at the concert.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't tie your frame to her ability to cum on your dick.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck all that bullshit. Fuck her mind then fuck her pussy good. All you have to do.

[–]dilberryhoundog3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

2 things I have found.

Dread. Coming back from a work trip. Social proof. Haven’t fucked in a while but built sexual tension throughout. Stuff like that.

And the most important...

Feeling your strength. Sex is the only time she gets to “feel” your strength and power, that she covets and observes so much. Drive her hard (your pubic bone smashing her clit), lift her up, throw her around a bit (with care). Mental strength displays also help.

Some times my wife is begging me to bust my nut so she can stop cumming on my dick (3 vag O’s in a row) after making the above things happen.

[–]tap09885343 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I highly recommend Jason julius' female orgasm blueprint and extreme stamina. I found a torrent that had the whole library and they were better than any of the sgm technique videos.

[–]BarracudaRP3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

it's a 1 way ticket to Ejaculationville for me

Stop speaking like this, even in your own head.

Other guys have already addressed the validation issues you are experiencing. From a practical side, have you tried using condoms, cock rings or numbing gel (for you)? Each of those seems to postpone orgasms for me, and it's fun to try.

Real talk: I'm rooting for your success, and it sounds like you've got a dirty girl in the bedroom with some fantasies that you need to start taking advantage of.

How's your marriage? If you're having frequent sex and talking about fantasies, I hope it's because you stopped tolerating starfish sex. Hopefully fighting less too. Not long ago you were full of resentment toward her. I know what that is like, and it changes the way I fuck my wife. Is she still on meds? My wife was, and like you said it's worth asking - how am I involved in her need to medicate? Also, some meds can fuck up a woman's libido and they may not be aware.

[–]go-RED-go[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haven't heard about numbing gel or tried it. Also didn't know that cock rings purpose was to hold ejaculation. You got me interested, i will look more into those two items , thanks.

Marriage was on the verge of divorce. We had a huge fight and I was ready to go for divorce. She saw that I was serious and it seems that after this event our dynamic changed and that we got some kind of a reset. It hit her very hard that I was ready to walk away.

About the meds, not long ago, there was a serious talk between us and she finally admitted , accepted and came around the fact that meds have crushed her libido hard and that a healthy marriage requires healthy sex with both partners satisfied and in the long term meds will stand in our way of achieving that. She made first steps to get off the medication as soon as possible. I'm being careful and sceptic about if she will really go on with her promises about the changes she told me she will make - with meds and with the way she acts when we have an argument. She has extreme problem with not being able to sleep (caused by PTSP trauma) and this antidepressant meds are also a "sleeping pill".

Me on the other hand , I'm working hard to not be affected by if we have sex or not. It's pretty hard course my libido is high and my selfcontrol low. Before meds sex was every other day in the week and now it plummeted down to once a week or even less. Sometimes I jerk off when I can't take it anymore but act of jerking off makes me resent her and think less of myself when I do it - it brings me back to the time when I was a loser that jerked off at porn twice a day.

I try to focus on other stuff right now - gym and reading books. Thanks for the support dude.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She also told me that the girls in the fantasy always do "slutty" and forbidden stuff - they do anal, they squirt. they do ass to mouth, and in the fantasy I treat them like whores they are. I never kiss them and I never cum in their pussy, only in their ass or on their face/mouth. They are always blondes.

Switch things up with her...try getting nasty with her and call her a dirty whore while you do it.

As for your quick draw problem, do you masturbate? Porn? It's ok to stop and change positions if you feel yourself getting close and don't want to blow your load yet. Use it as an opportunity to throw her around, talk dirty, finger her while repositioning, etc. You don't have to just stop and say "oh, oh, wait, don't move, I don't want to cum."

[–]go-RED-go[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I stopped porn cold turkey 7 years ago after being addicted for 15 years. My brain could still be fucked up after this long period. We sometimes (not often) watch porn together to spice things up. Masturbate very rarely.

[–]maljo242 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only 10% of women who orgasm are able to orgasm from penile thrusting alone. “Look Mom! No hands!” Rarely works.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re at least 16% BF based on your height, weight, and lifts.

I don’t care if she cums vaginally. She always cums by clit. The harder I hit it, spank her, etc... the faster she cums.

You sound like you are fucking for her instead of for your own pleasure. Let us know how that works out.

[–]HIJKelemenoP6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

6’3.6” haha

Tldr

[–]All_Mods_Suck_Cock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

IKR? These pussy ass sub 6'5 manlettes.

[–]go-RED-go[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unit conversion. Thanks for adding value though.

[–]sars4451 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every girl gets off differently

[–]dandar46001 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For my wife once she gets the first from oral, the second and third are much easier and faster. Once she had three from oral then it's just a matter of me lasting long enough during sex to get her the vaginal.

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

to get her the vaginal.

sorry, thought of Borat (in the vageeeen)

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

One issue is your stamina of a pre-teen. You need to figure out how to control your sensations and control your orgasm. The far majority of women are going to bed with 2-minute men that don’t know how to give her an orgasm.

As far as “I want her to have XX type of orgasm” - that is not the goal a guy that can’t fuck for longer than a handful of minutes gets to have. Your goal is “I want to get better in bed so “I “ can have sex for longer. You should be afraid of threesomes at your level. You’ll get ruined for life if you can barely last in bed with your wife. Wait until you have your wife and another (or even better, your wife and two others) waiting their turns to get fucked by you, but you came after two min it’s or can’t get hard at all. while I’m happy to have had a lot of threesomes, one thing that wasn’t an issue for me was coming too fast. Nothing better than having two horny chicks melting for your cock and fucking one girl to multiple orgasms, switch to the next girl, repeat, repeat.

Lastly, you need to get in her head before sex and keep it up during sex. Be controlling, keep up a narrative, tell her what you want. Keep her brain thinking about sex and orgasms. My GF is mainly clit orgasm and it takes time for her to get her brain focused on herself so I focus on a blend of doing what I want and oral + clit play until she’s a raging inferno and wants to fuck her orgasms out using my cock.

[–]go-RED-go[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Useful info, thanks.

[–]additionalpie40 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That sidebar has lots of good information, you sure you read the books you say you did? It helped me on how to last longer than 3-5 minutes. Also typically with this problem there is pornography user, mainly lose the fantasy and gain a great sex life.

[–]Imaginary_Historian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to experience the feeling of her cumming on my dick.

Just have her use a vibe on her clit when inside her, it works

[–]JameisBong0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Buddy,her g spot is right behind her pelvis bone. Finger her softly and rub her g-spot with a "come here" motion...she will come guaranteed. The way to get to it with your johnson is to have her on her stomach and enter her from behind. Congrats stud if you do it correctly she will cum...and then what?how does this benefit you and why do you care? I love it because it gives me validation (i have narc tendencies),make sure you are doing it for you and not just to keep her because that's needy and beta.

[–]turbospeedsc-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do some jelqing and stretching, the extra volume and length does wonders, it's not a magic pill but I went from 16.9cm to 17.5cm in 3 months.

That and some results from the gym ramped up sex life a lot, 5-6 days a week, with the wife licking my dick, balls and ass like her life depended on it, 4-5 of those times.

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