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I subconsciously think that women who meet me view me asexually. I think that they are never interested.

Even though I've overheard things like, "wow, he's pretty cute", "mmm, handsome and tall".

Had a girl in my bed watching a movie but didn't think anything of it at the time.

I get complimented here and there.

I've been told I look like I get a lot of women. But I don't. I have no self esteem in this area.


[–]btrpb244 points245 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Dude. If you are getting into close proximity with women then you need to grow a sack and escalate. If it doesn't work move on. If it does, you get to unload into a pussy.

It really is that simple. You have to let women know that you are a sexual being. Women are smart. If they like you they will put themselves into a position to give you opportunity. But you're the man and it's up to you to push it over the line.

[–]ExoticPanther61 points62 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This seems to be the issue most non red pilled guys have. They think rejection somehow = a lifetime of unhappiness. It’s odd, personally I think it’s because of a low inner confidence that they allow to be bullied even lower after some random girl doesn’t want to fuck them.

[–]coloredzebra24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's exactly this, and a catch 22. Even after improving my SMV, bits of the shell of my former self still tends to linger.

However, the only way to get over that bump is to consistently push that barrier. As we know, anything having to do with change, and the unknown tends to create fear due to uncertainty.

The solution is of course outcome independence however, when you've had little success, you're heavily engrossed in the outcome. Thus, the catch 22.

[–]i-am-the-prize18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

toxic shame is a bitch. they need to read NMMNG and just realize regret is worse than rejection.

[–]rockyp323 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Create outcome independence by doing it enough times or to where you prioritize something else ahead of it. U could approach a million times and still fail if your so over invested so you just gotta tame the mind a lil

[–]deathhandmachiavelli6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perfectly well said.

Non red pilled guys are TERRIFIED of rejection.

[–]o_Oz17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

WARNING: DO NOT UNLOAD INTO A PUSSY! (that’s an 18 year financial sentence at worst and an STD at best)

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It literally takes one maybe two women that you will escalate with before you start feeling. Also if you want to maybe try escalating with someone who seems like a prude and you just might find that they want it more than regular girls. They just are afraid of the social ramifications. All they need is to trust you dont have a big mouth and you do everything away from their judgey friends and watch her open up to you.

Gotta keep experimenting. Test that she wants to be wet hypothesis. Not that shes probably like my sweet innocent mother.

[–]Penislover30004 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Smart, emotionally.

[–]iphone50001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is right, always escalate or women will think your a bitch.

[–]cobaltblueguitar-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"If you're getting into close proximity with women then you need to grow a sack and escalate"

I can smell your comfort from a mile away. You are way luckier than a lot of other guys with women and so therefore you think you can get away with making moves on women willy nilly. You basically just have it easy. You don't have to deal with the bitchiness, the toxic feminism. You probably got a little cushion pass due to your genetics.

Grow up. Some people have to actually abide by social rules. Some people don't get easy passes like you do. I get rejected almost every fucking time I try, and I never get a chance naturally either so I have to make hard approaches which never work.

[–]cobaltblueguitar2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And of course you're gonna respond with some half assed comment about how it's about my game and not something else. Yeah, no. Go enjoy your comfort. So much arbitrary bullshit to the game it sickens me.

[–]YouNeedAVacation93 points94 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey dude I was in exactly the same position as you about a year ago. I'm a good looking guy but I had absolutely no experience with girls and was petrified of interacting with them sexually.

You really just have to push yourself outside of your comfort zone. I remember the first time a girl started grinding on me in a club, I was terrified of touching her, I swear I almost had a fucking panic attack, every cell in my body was telling me not to touch her but I just fucking pushed through and put my hands on her waist. After she reacted positively it was like a lightbulb came on in my head 'ok so girls don't mind it when I touch their body'. Similar story for the first time I kissed a girl, I was nervous as fuck but I pushed all that aside and just fucking went for it and after she kissed me back I realised 'hey girls don't mind it when I kiss them'. When you get enough of these experiences you gain confience and it all becomes second nature. A year later I've lost my virginity , and slept with multiple girls, a few of whom were hot as fuck.

The point is you're a man, you do things and the world (girl) reacts. If you haven't done something before, pretend you have and feign confidence - as a man you should always remain calm and collected and act like you have answers and that you've been in the situation before, even if on the inside you're uncertain and nervous as hell. The first time I took a girl home from a club I had no idea what I was doing but I kept my cool and pretended I had done it many times before. By the 3rd time I pulled a girl home I was already a natural and had no anxiety whatsoever.

Step out of your comfort zone and take action - no one is gonna do it for you

[–]DAOcomment22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great comment, man. Thank you for articulating that.

[–]1redhawkes68 points69 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Imposter syndrome. Get out of your comfort zone and take action, your subconscious mind will catch up soon.

[–]Savior16660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Imposter syndrome

Perfect Diagnosis

[–]Madhatter7470 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

"Imposter syndrome"?

[–]rafaelvicuna223 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Basically means OP's mind hasn't yet updated despite him improving his SMV

[–]Madhatter747-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is it an actual thing or did u come up with it

[–]aldoonestrutts11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Madhatter747-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yea! Ur roght thanks

[–]VSelf4727 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s because you don’t see them sexually yourself, most likely cause you were told to be a nice guy and the right women will come along. All this leads to not escalating cause you were told to not think about sex.

Repeat after me: WOMEN LIKE TO HAVE SEX

All girls want to be railed up by “the right guy”.

[–]cdh10030 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Have you read NMMNG, OP?

[–]VSelf472 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not yet. It’s on my list along with TSGM.

The thing is while reading the sidebar and handbook I realized that my problem was that I was ashamed of my sexuality (thanks mom) causing everything OP is saying.

[–]cdh1003-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Question was directed to the OP, but required reading for all of here! Recognised many patterns in myself, too.

[–]ChadTheWaiter10011 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is funny. I was just thinking the other day how much of a pussy I used to be. About 10 years ago. I was 19, I slept in a bed with a 23 year old and I didn’t even try to make a move. It wasn’t bc I was “being a gentlemen”. I was just a pussy.

I ended up boning on regularly, but only bc she made a move on me 1 night when we drank.

[–]cracksniffer66623 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This "friend" I've been talking to randomly mentioned in convo that "oh and I look good naked, haha"

and I was still oblivious to it

[–]nakedamerasian10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ouch.

I sometimes think back when a girl decided to sit on my lap "because there were no chairs left" and then commented on what was in my pants to which I honestly relied "oh just my keys" which she took as "yeah right" with a mischievous smirk.

[–]Snowaey1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

LMFAOOO SO RELATABLE IT FUCKING HURTS

[–]Savior16660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here haha.

[–]holeintheceiling1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of that casually explained video on how to tell if a girl likes you.

Yeeaaahhh, can’t really tell from that situation whether she likes you or not.

[–]unn4med0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOOOL

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Madonna/whore complex. You think women don’t really want to get fucked. Wake up.

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS6931 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Do the ole whip-dick: whip out your dick and let the cards fall where they may.

[–]NoFaithInThisSub 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

hopefully the joker will get the queen in the acehole.

[–]MisterMarbles19880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

lmfao

[–]MultiMidsets2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What's the question?

The answer is probably "you're attractive but you don't escalate therefore you get nothing. If you want girls, escalate".

[–]YouWannaPutMoneyOnIt5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And stop shooting yourself in the foot. You sound either afraid of success or actually trying and possibly failing. You learn the most when you fail don’t forget that. You have to be a fool before you can be a master, don’t let your prodigy skills make you think you have to be a master in everything to begin with

[–]Protocol_Apollo8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Look up the article “I now became chad the destroyer of pussy”

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel ya. I'm still in Beginner Hell (see graph halfway down the page) but I went swing dancing last night and had a hell of a good time. I'm just good enough of a dancer.....and just attractive enough in general.....that I didn't have to wait more than once song for a follow to come up to me and ask me to dance.

Just like my sex life, I'd have a better time if I was a lot more aggressive.

[–]RedPillAlphaBigCock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

masterbate a bit less and loss of eye contact - they should be giving IOI's like hair touching etc.

[–]MrBreitling 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

watching Black Panther at the movies

intense fighting scene between protag and antag

slouch down my seat and yell, "YO, THIS NIGGA BOUTTA DABBED ON"

everyone laughs

black guy sucks his teeth and says, "You aight, white boy"

Hear "He cute" from one of the girls

[–]NoFaithInThisSub 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

mate you need to rename yourself mrcasio because that was some cheap knock off low class post.

[–]sixseven8914 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you jack yourself off somewhere else

[–]YouWannaPutMoneyOnIt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You have a dick, I don’t know what else there is to it than that lol. But that’s the starting point lol- which means to some level females are attracted to you, now you have to do the social game to get the best females.

[–]severus_iudex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop operating from the point of view of "does she like me?" and start asking yourself "do I like her?". If the answer is yes, your focus will be on flirting with her and escalating things. Your mind will eventually work it out, it's all about where your focus is.

You are the one who chooses who to fuck. Not the one that gets chosen.

Try it. It works.

[–]bradtwo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

> I subconsciously think

That's your perception on it my man.

Here is the only advice that I could ever give to someone else, that changed my life, completely.

  1. Take care of your mind.
    1. There are hundreds of free meditation apps and thousands of free mediation videos. So what is stopping you? Time ? It takes less than 10 minutes, per day.
  2. For fucks sake, Take care of your body.
    1. Don't become a lazy piece of shit that doesn't do anything other than stay home and gripe on the internet. Get out and get your ass to the a gym or start some home workout routines. This will make you attractive to many women as laziness and lack of self preservation are two of the top turnoff things for most women. No one expects you to look like Arnold after week one.
  3. You should read up a lot on social engineering.
    1. For me this started when I was a much younger chump, 22-23 (15 years ago) . Where I would end up in relationships with women, whom I found attractive, but it always felt like a "luck of the draw" thing. I never broke down my interactions with them, I never broke down the steps from getting them to a person I met at a coffee shop, to a date, to the bedroom, to a relationship. I simply never took the time to figure it out. I then randomly stumbled upon some videos on a torrent that was talking about this whole "PUA" society. Something now which is commonly known and (well to be honest) commonly overused. But for me, the take away was two things... after reading 1) Reading Neil Strauss' The Game. and 2) Reading Mystery's Book "Mystery Method", I was somewhat able to figure out why I was successful in the past, and that it had less to do with blind luck, but more to do with reading and gauging interest at the time.

[–]revaforce1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lift.

[–]Psiphistikkated0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

...are you asexual?

[–]NoVirtueSignal[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s because your a gimp lol therefore reframe

[–]my_diamonds_bite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are u concerned with what other girls are thinking?? Spend more thought time on your mission. Some random girl you don’t know is renting free space in your head.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Escalate. You'll be positively surprised. Practice practice practice.

Women are extremely sexual. When they gossip with each other, it's like half sexual talk. Literally at least half. my god. Their Netflix queues too, their reading material...

[–]Savior16660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

> Had a girl in my bed watching a movie

If you're young I understand man, We've all been there, that feminst programming is crazy to break.

Yes you should have banged her, no excuse there, but it sounds like you are just too unsure of yourself.

Next time you're in this situation, escalate. Eventually you'll get there.

[–]Andgelyo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You a bitch that’s why.

[–]Aestheticcunt1996-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Take steroids

[–]jrr6415sun-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this just a humble brag post?

[–]o_Oz-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You might like dick 🤷‍♀️

[–]PayneGreyWolf-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get a psychiatrist then tf

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a shit how they view you? What dirty, depraved things do you want to do to them?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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