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I had two dates recently,

The first one, the girl looked good on her picture, maybe a 7/10, i join her for drinks, she was with her friends, i haven't recognized her at first because she was obese and like 90kg, i got coffee to be polite, left and never answered her texts

Second date, good looking in pictures, she comes directly at my appartment, same, around 80kg and very ugly, dressed like shit, we talked, we start netflix, she tried to touch me and shit and i faked i had to go to make her leave, just for instance, she showed me her tinder, she have 700 matches and ton of good looking guys messaging her, she told me i'm lucky she went at my appartment ... After the date she sent me a text asking why i haven't tried anything

I also had other dates where girls looked okay but completely stupid or drug addict

All the girls on this app are very low quality, at least in my town, lot of guys complain about not getting matches, but trust me even when you get matches, it doesn't worth it

Girls you meet irl are much much better looking

I feel like tinder is basically for above average guys who wants to fuck ugly or low quality girls with no efforts


[–]Modbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (6 children) | Copy Link

You should be getting some kind of social media from them to check up on their pictures and to make sure they're not batshit crazy. And NEVER EVER bring them to your place early on. Failing to follow these two rules of thumb are how you get yourself into a bunny boiler situation.

[–]PencesElectrician 143 points144 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

A few comments on this

1) Tinder is awful. Basically most girls on there get a barrage of dicks and unless you’re in the top 10% you won’t get the light of day from the most attractive ones. I’ve had way better luck with Bumble.

2) Watch out for smoke and mirrors - If you see no photos of them boobs down, odds are they’re a fatty. If you never see them smile, odds are they have bad teeth. If they’re only posting photos of them with their friends, they’re probably the ugly one. Everyone gets burned by smoke and mirror profiles but it’s a learning experience, and make sure you SWIPE LEFT on anything that doesn’t pass the smell test.

3) If you’re swiping right on everything, STOP. Reset your account and actually evaluate each girl. Rambo swiping tricks the algorithm into think you’re a bot and your profile won’t get exposed to as many women and especially not to the most attractive ones.

Good luck!

[–]Yashugan00 57 points58 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

this: close ups of face, top down and no neck.. she a fatty. you can also tell by hands and fingers... sausage fingers

[–]i-am-the-prize 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"sausage fingers" - takes a lot of fat to get fat fingers and back-of-the-hands, yes, that's a huge red flag.

[–]dannygucciha 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

You can reset? Lol how do you do that

[–]PencesElectrician 7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You delete you account and start up a new one either via Facebook or your phone number

[–]I_Donald_Trump 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Can I use the same number if I wait long enough?

[–]Kyomeii 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't need to wait, just delete it and create it again immediately

[–]Well_Sorted8173 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually not true. Bumble keeps your data for 30 days. If you create a new account with the same phone number or FB within 30 days of deleting, you'll get a fresh start on swiping, but your "score" based on the algorithm will be the same as your old account.

There's a site (that I can't find now because I am at work) I think called swipehelper that has all the dirty details of how Tinder and Bumble work, and how to do a real reset of your account.

[–]PickUpScientist 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

tinder will not give you the new user boost if you do this

[–]PickUpScientist 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

90 days is as long as tinder claims to hold onto user data

[–]dannygucciha 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn I already got them linked, oh well

[–]EltonsRevenge 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy Link

you seem to have a lot of experience with online dating apps so let me ask you a question... Is Tinder or Bumble even worth trying for really short guys like 5'4"?

[–]PencesElectrician 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’d only recommend either outlet if you have 3-5 great photos of yourself. I say that regardless of height. A decent bio helps too and if you’re worried about height you could make it humorous. Photos are CRUCIAL on these things.

I haven’t been on Tinder in years and don’t recommend it to any guy outside of the top 5%. Bumble they can list their height and you’d be surprised at the amount of women on there 5’2 and below. Hell I matched with one who was like 4’6 or something like that.

At the very least I’d give Bumble a shot. If you find you’re getting nowhere then delete it.

[–]Savior1666 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd second this. Otherwise you'll need to think of other ways to increase your SMV (Starting and leading a band is one way). You could ALSO go the Matt Ogus route (5'5) basically get JACKED AF (Yes he uses steroids) and stroll on the beach with a camera filming himself with hot beach bunnies. This dude was swimming in poon after that.

He's got some kids now but yeah chicks were all over this dude, his shortness meant nothing!

Also if you are in the west (especially if you're white) you may want to look into other countries, asia especially. As long as you lift, you can have an AMAZING sex life abroad, no matter your height.

For example, I'm not white, not 6ft, and not in the states atm, I've lifted for a few years, and went to a small event a few months ago. . .I've had decent looking girls 6-7 straight up start conversations with me. . .which made the other girls look to start conversations with me despite me being not the "preferred race" (i.e. white) in that locale simply because NONE of the guys there did any lifting, maybe one dude had some decent clothes on (one guy looked like he was in a fucking undershirt, most others were looking sloppy AF, and the only other guy who wore some decent clothes was so fucking skinny, he looked like a chick from behind)

The conversations were easy too! The girls just started talking about themselves, I'd throw in a little joke at their expense here and there and they basically were eating out of my hand!

Seriously, it's just that easy.

Most people don't lift, and if they do they lift with such terrible form for way too long that they basically waste their time. . .for example, last week at my gym, there was this dude in the squat rack for OVER TWO HOURS. First he was doing bullshit stretches for about 20 minutes (stretching and warmups should take 10 minutes total tops) THEN, he did squats with. . ."heavy weight"

I put that in quotes because his form was GODAWFUL, he was doing like 1/3 of a squat with three and a half plates. He wasn't even CLOSE to parallel, much less going below it (which is proper form) His legs look DYEL(Do You Even Lift) AF. THEN the dude went to do Bench. . .and probably some other shit, but by the time he was there I was already finished with my work out, showered, sauna'd, and jaccuzzi'd(weekend) dressed and was leaving, and dude was STILL THERE doing shit.

So EVEN IF he was lifting, he was:

a)Doing it wrong (Meaning less muscle activation and higher injury chance for almost no gains)

b) and taking WAY too long and doing too much nonsense work [i.e. fucking his recovery up so that his gains are going to be REALLY minute]

And that's a guy who lifts!! Thing is, it's EASY to do it right and find out how to do it right (google, youtube, the library) there's tons of decent programs FOR FREE that one can follow. Really, if you do shit right, you wont even have competition. it's more just doing the right things correctly for long enough!

Hell, you can go to meet(up) (dot com) and make your OWN events as well! Or even Craigslist if you want to do it for free! For man that has his act together, the possibilities are endless!

[–]TroubleStandard 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not that I doubt #3 but how do you know this is true?

[–]PencesElectrician 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure I can link other articles here but just Google either “Tinder elo score” or “sgould I always swipe right on Tinder?”” and you’ll see a plethora of articles on it

[–]wkndatbernardus 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Watch out for icebergs!

[–]liquorbaron 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also there's a good chance that if she's got a nice rack she probably has kids. It's not always the case but I have noticed chicks on dating apps whose picture will grab my attention; once I check over the profile, sure enough they have kids. This may or may not be a deal breaker for some guys. Just saying.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner 164 points165 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Without question, yes.

[–]Alt_Mayday 54 points55 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

2min on any dating app and every 3/10 will suddenly look like a 6/10

[–]JoeBuckYourslf 26 points27 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

The funniest was after that guys post a couple weeks ago in the asktrp sub about NSA sex and the app he used, I forgot the name. Seeking??

I decided to check it out. It’s a bunch of fat trailer park bitches begging for sugar daddies LMAO

[–]ldamien65 17 points18 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Seeking Arrangements. I had a plate that would find guys twice our age on that platform and make between 700-1,000 for every “date” she went on. It was absolutely ridiculous.

[–]i-am-the-prize 49 points50 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

reminds me of:

He found himself one night in a bar standing beside a gorgeous woman. "Would you be willing to sleep with me for $1 million?" he asked her. She looked him over. There wasn't much to see - but still, $1 million! She agreed to go back to his room. "All right then, " he said. "Would you be willing to sleep with me for $100?" "A hundred dollars!" she shot back. "What do you think I am, a prostitute?" "We've already established that. Now we're just negotiating the price.Steven D. Levitt

[–]11-Eleven-11 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If a youtuber or something started doing that I'd watch it.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Give this man gold.

[–]redconsequence 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually that was Groucho Marx

[–]EnemyAsmodeus 12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The demand for thinner girls with vaginas is at all time high... Coinciding with the obesity levels at all time high for both genders... Coinciding with peak communist-feminist BS like that one news article where the communist girl author was trying to say heterosexuality was oppression (I kid you not) and women writing bullshit articles trying to inflate the percentage of the ~7-10% of LGBT population (trying to make it seem like minority sexual preferences are bigger than they are).

A lot of this stems from basically landwhales being dumped by guys. It also stems from dumb women who have low-libido (low sexual interest) and them trying to justify their asexual ways (or because the few boyfriends they had were just bad at sex).

In the meantime, the whores will profit big time.

[–]LazerSpin 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how youbhad to specify “...with vaginas”. No feminine benis for you, my friend!

[–]JoeBuckYourslf 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Science!

[–]Alt_Mayday 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Business 101

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Some sad bastards paid her 700-1000 for a single fuck?? Are they retarded?

[–]Savior1666 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

funny how they could use that money on a personal trainer, barbells and dumbells and a power rack/deadlift platform at home and work on themselves for a year from the comfort of their own home for probably less than half the money, and get women 2-3 points above that they paid for easily.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Retarded. Desparate. Incel. Whatever you want to call them.

[–]vullnet123 49 points50 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Just gotta be able to tell from pictures. Last girl I went out with from tinder was actually better looking in person, just batshit insane

[–]Vipe777 55 points56 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

just batshit insane

So just a woman?

[–]vullnet123 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, even crazier. Most girls wait a bit to show their craziness, our second time together I received the wrath of a whore

[–]MGTOWJulietSierra 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What happened?

[–]ElijahBurningWoods 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I guess it depends on the country.

[–]vullnet123 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm in the US. Like I said, you just gotta be able to tell. Face pics only means fat. Look at the cheeks, arms if possible, neck etc

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18 25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The amount of inauthentic women far outnumbers the authentic.

You get used to it and see right through it after a while. The 'all face, no body' girls, the soft filter and blemish free girls, the fucking retarded girls, and a huge spike recently in the snap chat filter girls.

Like seriously. How does having a fucking dog nose and ears make a girl appealing?

IMO, Tinder and dating apps have taken a nosedive. I'm an attractive guy who lays most women I try in real life, so it isn't a cope.

Seriously, get off Tinder and learn real life game. That's where the fun is. At least I know I'm fully physically attracted to them from the start.

[–]askmrcia 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I haven't been on tinder in two years and its so much better.

Yes I may not get as many dates as my tinder days, but the dates I do get are more successful and with far better looking women.

Everytime a tinder topic comes up its nonstop complaining about it. I bet 90% of the reasons people have with women is because they are dating girls from online only. It may be closer to 95%.

You know how we get on girls for feeling regret for sleeping with a guy the next day? Well that's how you will feel after a successful tinder date. You went through so much BS just to get a HB5 in your bed. Yea she doesn't look like her pics, but hell the last 20 women ghosted you so now it's like "ehhhh I'll take what I can get for now."

Then you feel like garbage afterwards thinking to yourself "I can't believe I hit that."

Gents, do yourself a favor and leave the apps. It's not good for your health.

[–]ASAP_IKER 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel personally attacked

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was in a similar situation the other day. I got myself pretty drunk and I looked at the girl and I still had no interest fucking her. I thought after I got drunk I would feel more attracted to her but it’s true, you can’t negotiate attraction.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I agree. I think far too many guys substitute Tinder for real life then see it from the same lens they view real life game.

It's not the same. It's not a microcosm of the real world. It's a world unto it's own, and it's not fun in my experience.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s true. I am also an attractive man who lays most women I try irl. I do ok on tinder. But I wonder- where do you even pick up? Bc I’m not into night club/ bar type of women.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K18 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are everywhere. Get good at starting up casual conversations with girls you come across in daily life.

That, and expand your environments. There are plenty of things attractive females do that you can also do.

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 44 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's obvious to me just from a face shot who is and isn't a fatty. Learn to recognise the signs. Overweight women are good at using filters and perspective to hide it, but there are always clues you can pick up on.

As an aside, it's funny how most people hide their flaws on Tinder. I'm a fit gym guy now, but I use old photos where I'm skinny. I do this because one time I didn't think about what I was putting on there, and when I turned up to a date she was clearly very surprised and a little flustered at how much better I looked in person (she literally told me she wasn't expecting someone who looked as good as I did). I really enjoyed it, so now I actively use old photos where I have lower SMV so I can surprise girls with how much better I look irl. It's a nice reversal of the norm and I've found it leaves a GREAT first impression on them and helps me get a first date lay a lot more easily.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny how chicks do all the bs to hide their excess mass, but don't even try to lose it

[–]LordFa9 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 178cm which is quite good for my country but i always underplay (169 so it looks like I'm pushing it) just to weed out the shallow girls

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s funny. That’s a pretty cool strategy though. I wonder this though- you obviously have to have a high enough smv to pull anything on tinder, so you must be good looking enough being skinny af. Is that right?

[–]MR_SKINNYPENIS69 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've never been good at figuring out how good looking I am. It's still kind of a mystery to me but I always did well with women, even when I was skinny. Being a gym guy has definitely made it easier though.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yup. I think the 80/20 rule applies here too. A good rule of thumb is if she was actually hot/interesting, she either already has a boyfriend/her FBs or she's in the club. You can still find the latter on Tinder sometimes, but why would you? She's right there. Tinder is done.

[–]Hungboy6969420 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've met several good looking women who think tinder is low value/for ugly chicks. It does sometimes seem like the scraps

[–]Thinkingard 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I feel like if you see a hot chick on tinder it’s almost a red flag for crazy or extremely unpleasant.

[–]Savior1666 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's because your SMV isn't high enough.

Hot girls are on Tinder. Guys always like to say "there are no hotties on tinder cause guys approach them 24/7" The approaching part is true but you think a girl is going to leave matching with a potential 10/10 alpha on the table?! come on bruh. They are ALL on tinder/ a LOT of them just hide it VERY well.

The rabbit hole goes DEEP.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao. That’s funny. But true.

[–]Gordon-G 17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Always subtract at least 2 pts from her profile pictures. When you meet the first time they never look as good, ever, guaranteed. So if you think she is decent like a 6 or 7, when you meet her she will likely be below average.

[–]AnneStaz 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Subtract 2 and add 10 pounds

[–]Gordon-G 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah, at least 10 lbs.. closer to 20

[–]lonelyguy64 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao

[–]Yashugan00 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

" she showed me her tinder, she have 700 matches and ton of good looking guys messaging her, she told me i'm lucky she went at my appartment"

bwahahaha... oh boy, I'm in tears

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I just saw a Tinder profile for a girl who only put in her caption "Fatter in person." I almost swiped right just because she was being honest. Yet, I did not because she was still fat.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lmfao. I fuckin saw this shit too are you in the fuckin valley?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

RI/MA. Maybe it became a female "empowerment" Twitter hash tag. Reminds me of one of my favorite headlines/articles from the Onion "Women Now Empowered By Everything A Woman Does." They wrote that in 2003. What would be the 2019 version, as things have gotten even worse? Maybe "Women Now Empowered By Everything A Woman Does (And What Men Do But They Claim They Do)."

[–]HaroldTFinch 28 points29 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

With Tinder, the landwhales are in the USA by far.

Mental issues, USA.

Heavy in colored hair, piercings and tattoos? Yes, USA.

Bad outfit? USA.

Having a profile where they want you to have your act together while they look like crap with a couple kids? USA.

Me/You demand list with 6' height + for all SMV? USA

When a woman's magazine discusses body types they now need to put in spherical and put that next to hourglass.

For the USA, Miami, New York, DC, Dallas, much in California or Colorado has a better chance with women not spherical shaped. I'm not at every city but I noticed these.

Europe they are more in shape or honest with the fotos. Just there in two countries. Legit.

Colombianas are experts at foto manipulation but usually look much better on average anyway. Obsessed with having that flat stomach. So, they have shape and that shape isn't looking like a planet.

In general Latin America is much better than USA. And, when you add in the things other than looks, I'll generally take any Latin or Euro over a USA woman.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m really intrigued that you say Dallas has a good selection. I can believe it bc it has a huge population. I remember when I was in Houston I set the radius to 5 miles and I was swimming in lake of abundance.

In Houston I fucked a Colombian that didn’t even speak English (and I don’t speak Spanish.)

European is the best though hands down.

[–]HaroldTFinch 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Houston can work but there are a lot of heavyweights there. Need to sift a little. I don't like that city much.

Dallas has more women keeping themselves in better shape.

The Colombian will make breakfast, wash dishes and possibly clean your house the next morning without asking.

[–]TheCiph3r 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny that my last two Tinder experience are girls who look better in person than their profile, mostly mirror selfies and no bikini pics. I swiped right because I was horny af those days, turned out I got more than I wanted.

Tinder is a hit or miss game. Use it but make sure it’s not just your main way of meeting women

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she have 700 matches and ton of good looking guys messaging her,

Based on her fake picture, yes.

Girls show their best sides in photos, always. Even if that photo is 10 years old and 30 pounds lighter.

It's irrational but works for them in the short term: better pics = more validation. More validation = better guys, right? This works great at the level of makeup, but works terribly at the level of Tinder where the reality doesn't meet the presentation.

I feel like tinder is basically for above average guys who wants to fuck ugly or low quality girls with no efforts

Exactly.

[–]Redditorsheaven 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why there are so many fucking beta guys overvaluing these ugly bitches ? What is this syndrome called ?

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Validation gone crazy

[–]battlebrothercain 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny with the trend of dating apps is that 3/10 girls think they're 9/10 because the validation they get

[–]casemodz 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ask for recent picture before meeting. If she doesn't want to, onto the next.

And yes...I started swiping right on everything because it's a waste of time to look at each profile for a long time when most won't match anyway...all I get are fatties. I'm pretty good looking too, not to toot my own horn.

100% agree. In person is the way to go 100000% better. Even a cashier at the gas station is better.

All my tinder dates were messed up in one way or another. Not even worth it but its easy I guess.

[–]Well_Sorted8173 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

.I started swiping right on everything

And that destroyed your Tinder value (ELO) score. Tinder thinks you're a bot/spam and probably isn't showing your profile to many people.

Never mass swipe right on everyone.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t bother explaining. Every time I see some idiot think they are genius doing the “right swipe all” I just think of the Darwin Awards.

[–]Well_Sorted8173 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

True, but then they come on Reddit and complain because, “I don’t ever get any matches! I must be ugly! Nobody wants me! “

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are literally swiping themselves further down to the bottom of the barrel.

[–]Arnoux 16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No. In eastern europe. I’ve fucked a lot of slim bithces from tinder. Yes there are some fatties but they are minority luckily. I even got a family because of tinder. My partner is still slim as fuck after giving birth.

[–]RedditArgument 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally anywhere in Europe in my experience. And Asia. OP just needs to learn to swipe left on the ones without a single full body shot.

[–]clausternn 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What part of EE? Kiev? Moscow? St. Petersburg?

[–]Arnoux 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Budapest

[–]MrAnderzon 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you can't see the clavicles she's fat

The clavicles don't lie

[–]Don_Draper27 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

From my experience Tinder works well for guys with great looks. If you don't look like a model you won't have the best luck.

Also, there's a few things you can do to better confirm if she's a fatty or not.

• If she only has pictures of herself from her boobs up, she's a fatty. If a girl has a nice body, she WILL flaunt it (bikini pics, tight or short clothing styles).

• Check out her Instagram. If her last body shot was from 2017 she's a fatty.

[–]nidham21 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Video chat 🤔

[–]__TheDon__ 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100% agree with you. Chicks are great in angles, and filters. Also don’t forget the make up. I prefer day game over tinder by a mile. Once you get over approach anxiety, it becomes extremely fun, and the rush becomes addicting.

[–]Garathon 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the US I guess it is. In countries where that's not the average you mostly find they're like their pictures.

[–]Neymars_Lawyer_AMA 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Theres no way a girl was 90 kg and you didnt notice it it the pictures.

[–]Kn31 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk depending where you are and what you look like. In a big city no. And Tinder's algo is important too. If you're too picky or women find you unattractive you'll only see and match ugly girls. Ya there are fatties and uglies but it's not hard to find a few decent plates from those apps.

[–]PhaedrusHunt 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just looked back. In my days on tinder I banged 7 or 8 women.

There was one 10, two 9s, three or four 6-7, and one fatty. Fatty was upfront about it and actually a great fuck. Did it because I'd never banged a fatty. Gave fantastic head and I could actually pound that ass in a way normal girls can't handle.

I have high SMV and live in a college town.

For dating apps, Bumble has the best looking women but they are aggressive.

Tinder is trash but good for plates. BUT, there are a FEW women there for dating that are OK. They usually are sheltered and clueless to what a fuckfest it is out there, and they aren't on for long. I met a really cute Latina girl who was about 19, nice family, was looking for an LTR and marriage eventually, and genuinely seemed clueless that it's a hookup app. Like the idea of a ONS or FWB was beyond her. I had a nice time with her but moved on sans escalation.

OKC actually has the best interface and question system to set up good matches, and the best variety of selection. They have more questions to answer, and you can see the answers, so you can actually figure out what kind of girl you're meeting.

Think of apps just like different bars or settings you'd go to. Tinder is the grind on the dancefloor bar. Bumble is the martini bar. OKC is the school cafeteria. You might meet a girl that invites you to church, or you might meet one that blows you in the bathroom.

Anyway, just treat them like places you stick your head in for a minute, look around, and move on if it ain't poppin.

In the meantime, if the girl doesn't have even one body pic? She's fat.

[–]Staticfloor627 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ive pulled a FEW HB8s from tinder and a fair amount of 7s. My ex LTR was from Tinder (lesson learned haha). Since dumping her I've had a lot of matches but only like 5 actually plate worthy. I have 3 as plates still and I had ONS with the other 2.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’ve found necks, ankles and knees to be good indicators of a woman’s fat level. The thinner, the more likely she’s not a catfish.

If I only see a face, I assume she is.

[–]helterskelter1988 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fingers as well. Fatties usually have chunky fingers.

[–]SirAttackHelicopter 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of the study done a few years ago about the three most popular dating sites. The question was "is this person 'above average' in looks?" The study showed that men had been voting about 50% of women as 'above average' in looks, whereas women had been voting about 20% of men were above average in looks. This data shows just how much of a reality disparity there is when it comes to women who use social media in general. Yes, there are edge cases where a very small subset of men display the same behavior as well as a very small subset of women who do NOT display this behavior.

However the data doesn't lie because the behavior in women results in exactly what you are experiencing: a false sense of higher value towards themselves as well as an extreme sense of devaluing towards men. So comments like "you are lucky I showed up to your appt" is textbook.

[–]stro85 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m here in Dubai right now and do so much traveling because of my job and the women here are unreal. Tinder in the US is garbage. Hong Kong, Bahrain, Munich, Milan, Rome, Rio de Janeiro, Bogotá, Sydney are all epic.

[–]Spaghetti1776 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls that have to use tinder are generally low quality.

[–]BusterVadge 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you fishing for prize winning catches in the sewer? All you're gonna pull out is turds.

[–]Narcissist456 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tinder is garbage. The women on there are mostly garbage (i.e., catfish, insane, delusional, etc.), with very few exceptions.

[–]2319Skew 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've posted this before but it's worth saying again.

Tinder is used for validation, getting IG followers and an ego boost. It's where each girl starts to feel like she's a 9 or 10 because she's got thousands of matches and hundreds of messages.

I honestly don't think that anything really matters on it. You can be rich, built and connected and you're still one of dozens of orbiting dicks feeding her ego.

These women are usually mentally damaged, have baggage, ugly or boring and due to the fact that they are constantly praised by thirsty cucks. Each one thinking she deserves to marry a prince, be fucked by a star and treated like a goddess despite working at McDonalds and living with 3 cats when not studying for her genders studies class in community college.

Can you get laid? Sure. You can also find a nutritional meal in a dumpster, but why would you look?

Cold approach is where it's at because you can qualify her, see her live at her best/worst and if she's attractive instead of her the hundreds of betas hitting her up, you are competing with the dozens of potential alpha that are approaching.

[–]GuyWithThePizza 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The question you need to ask yourself is “what kind of quality woman doesn’t have guys hit on her irl and orbiters chasing her and has to resort to online dating to find a guy?” Most women on there are meth addicts, tatted up skanks, and entitled single moms.

[–]cafeitalia 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those that are going on a date with you are apparently landwhales. Those that decided not to match you definitely are not.

[–]006rbc 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They've got the "angles"

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A couple of years back when I was using it I met a tight hb8 18yr old, around 50kg, which looked exactly like in her photos. Took less than 1h to fuck. A few weeks later I met a hb3 landwhale that in photos looked like the chick from wolf of wall street, easily a hb9. Took me 30 min to make an excuse and bounce, which was about 29 min and 50 sec too long.
I also fucked a chubby hb6, which looked like a hb8 in photos, and slim. It was meh but she was cute and had huge tits. Depends on circumstances, location, luck.

[–]kayra-han 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, Tinder Girls suck.

One girl was looking like a 9 with perfect curves on her Instagram.
In real life she was a bit thick. Not ugly tho. Luckily i prefer thick women.
Had 3-4 dates with her and she got too clingy. I got turned off by that and ended it.

The other looked very tanned and had a latina vibe on her pics, in real life she had the orange skin tone of donald trump and very puffy lips (not in a good way.).

The rare attractive ones turn out to be very stupid.
Once I had thought that i found the perfect girl looks wise but her personality was such a huge turn off the looks weren't worth it.
She was like a toddler in the body of a 20 year old. eww.

[–]1amrocket 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

From UK here, typically if a girl is pretty in the photos she's pretty good in real life. Obviously if she has only face pictures she's fat, swipe left.

[–]Fuktiga_mejmejs 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tinder has an elo system xD

[–]PreEntertain 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate the lies and the deception. Yeah, its important to use your best photo, but it has to be truly representative of your appearance.

I had to leave POF because of that. I chose a meetup with a girl who legit didn't look fat, and I instructed her to meet me outside in front of a particular store. I pulled up to the spot we had discussed and she was easily 100 lbs heavier than her picture depicted.

I drove away and did not return any texts.

[–]seducter 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I logged in recently and there's girls using the same pictures I recognized from like 4 years ago.

[–]EvelynnSpoiler 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only on Western tinder

[–]sebastianconcept 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure what happened in my case but it feels like the quality of them women went down and their already inflated expectations went up.

Instagram in the other hand is slightly better.

Face to face real life is the best tho

[–]linkofinsanity19 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It all depends on where you live. I lived in OK, one of the fattest states and lived in a small town and easily 65-70% of women were land whales. However few tips for checking if they're fat based of the photos. 1. No body pics=fat. 2. Look at the arms, neck, wrists, and hands. This is a little harder to tell, but you get better at it. 3. If you do get fatfished, there's nothing illegal with calling them out on it when you meet them. Just say somethinime, "Well you are obviously a liar and fat so your ugly both inside and out." or some shit and bounce. You don't have to do this, but it might make your night feel just better. 4. Tinder, Bumble, Happn, etc. are simply means of sourcing. May as well have them all, especially of you don't/can't do approaches yet. They're all simply ways to source pussy. Just because a hammer is terrible for measuring windows doesn't mean it's a useless tool altogether (this is for the people who complain the apps are shit). You don't have to use them, but since you don't have to pay, why not use them?

As for the last bit, I'd say I'm definitely above average looks which does play into it a bit, but even in small town, OK I hardly got matches. If you want to really get the most of these apps you have to live in a large city (I'd say at least 300k minimum population, preferably much more. When I moved to a big city I was getting matches on each of these apps at least a 1 or 2 a day after the initial new account boost wore off, but if you don't swipe everyday then eventually you'll be thrown to the bottom of the well (at least for Tinder, the others don't seem to punish you so much).

At the end of the day there's no real downside to using them. Also, I have managed to even find a virgin (though she's not anymore) on Tinder so it's not like all of these women are extremely low quality, just 99% of them. Don't accept e defeatist mindset about the apps. They exist, may as well use them. Otherwise, do more approaching to make up for the lack of ability to literally find women while taking a shit. Low risk, low reward.

[–]zboo1h 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Joke answer is that all girls are fat.

Real answer is that people are getting fatter, women are also getting fatter. I think the average woman weighs like 176 lbs now? Disgusting.

[–]bodybuilder98 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel like tinder is basically for above average guys who wants to fuck ugly or low quality girls with no efforts

You couldn't be more wrong. You're getting low tier girls because you a) have low SMV and b) likely swipe right on everyone thereby destroying your ELO score.

This shit is beginner stuff. Stop wasting our time and read the sidebar. Downvoted and reported.

[–]Foolishoe 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yah I mean real people don't need Tinder, they usually have serious issues. It's good to tell them what the problem is. They gotta know real men, men that aren't thirsty, aren't going to put up with half ass busted ass childish shit like that.

Always always tell them what the fuck is wrong with them and tell em to get it together and be honest with themselves. Lucky 701 LOL.

[–]Truedemocracy5 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hot girls aren’t on tinder. Anyone that uses tinder of either gender is low SMV in general

Apps like hinge or bumble have far better women

[–]Jabbermouth 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong. Plenty of hot girls on Tinder fishing for Instagram/Snapchat followers (read: orbiters).

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