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I’m in my early 30s and now I’m starting to see in my group of friends that the women there are getting angry and jealous whenever one of the guys bring a younger date to a party. And by younger I mean post-college age or mid 20s.

Part of me wants to engage whenever I heard some shitty remark made by one of them, but also I kinda loathe getting dragged into a debate. It’s not like I’m gonna “win”, they’re clearly in denial, so fuck them. But still, I’d like to have a quick retort ready to fire back to shut them up fast.

What are your ideas?


[–]Kabuki431168 points169 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Never engage, they know they hit the wall. Just watch your SMV sky rocket when u walk in with a smoking hot 21 yo thats a head turner.

[–]Helmet_Icicle36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haters gonna hate, the world keeps a-turning.

[–]MotiMorphosys18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This.

There are some good comebacks listed here, but for shit like this it's best to not say anything.

They know.

[–]harry_powell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That seems to be the wisest move.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Other girls make your SMV skyrocket.

[–]muricanwerewolf1118 points119 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Everybody in my social circle knows me as the guy in his 30s who likes (and gets) women in their 20s. The wife of a friend of mine (who's also a friend, but feminist as fuck so we butt heads) once tried to tell me I shouldn't be going after these "young girls". I just looked at her and asked "How's [your sister]?" making her immediately start demanding I stay away from her. I just laughed.

What do you really need to say anyway? You're breaking their rules they decided you were going to abide by. It's WhereAreAllTheGoodMen shit but these women thought guys like you were gonna be bluepilled after spending your 20's learning these ho's don't love you. With the mainstream of the sexual revolution, they were told that after their wild years, there was a man dying to love them and he was gonna give her that happily ever after. Instead, it's a trickle of dudes juuuuust drunk enough to call them, or that guy at work that dries every pair of panties in the room who's trying to take her to out on a real date. The guys (who really weren't so bad) that were chasing her like puppies back in those wild days are gone, replaced by halfhearted hookups and single fathers trudging through life. Or maybe they did wrangle a guy, (like the husband of the woman above) who's a wonderful dude, but that tingle died a long time ago because he barely knew how to hunt, and like the lion story, she knows he'll never leave the cave. They're dreaming of athletic, wild sex that they aren't even physically capable of anymore, and mad because here's this guy who didn't allow his sexuality to be assassinated by domesticity. It literally can't get any more hopeless for them.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They're dreaming of athletic, wild sex

To be fair, even some of the younger bitches are, esp. the nerdy ones with intellectual standards.

[–]muricanwerewolf13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man when I was younger and had dumb ideas about how women wanted to be treated there was this young politics wonk chick I knew, we had a couple flings but I never reached out just to get laid, something she probably would have been down for. The sex was incredible, she was DOWN. Opportunity lost, I guess. Maybe if her beta boyfriend gets lost for whatever reason I’ll hit her up.

[–]RaidenDark4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Rick Sanchez had a beautiful line in this most recent episode.

"Every breath I take without your permission raises my self esteem"

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha. Word.

[–]z2a1-91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

second paragraph on point

[–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I had a much younger girlfriend for a long time. I've said it a thousand times:

  • Young women had no problem with it
  • Young put together men had no problem with it
  • Older women and loser young men hated it, eye daggers galore
  • Older men LOVED it, would shoot grins and the occasional thumbs up.

If women are kvetching, just shut up.

When you have a much younger woman on your arm, a wry smile is all you need.

As Uncle V likes to say, "mildly subversive."

[–]wanker71713 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Older women and loser young men hated it, eye daggers galore

Can confirm, I as a once bped guy absolutely hated it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm, I as a once bped guy absolutely hated it.

You know, man, as I've been on my journey, men's reactions have been really interesting. Again, I had a hot young girlfriend but I was anything but RP at the time....for her, I was Beta as all get out, and because we knew we'd break up (even when we'd break up) it was a good strategy.

So I mate guarded....a lot, and was pretty keen as to the chances other dudes had with her. Hell, one of my better friends for a while (until I dropped some RP truths on him, never again), I met him at a party thrown by one of her professors. I found them chatting by the fire, cheerfully inserted myself between them, and made a new friend.

These days, I'm getting the "you could probably fuck my girlfriend" look and it's great.

I no longer wish I would have started lifting in my 20's, because wishing is fucking stupid, the past is gone. I'm just glad I'm focused on it now.

[–]muricanwerewolf11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As someone who was young and hopeless, it’s kind of a smug thrill to meet the girl’s friends who have all been zoned and know they’re gonna hate me when they see us leaving later.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev70 points71 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

  • I have to do what's right for me.

  • All my girls are volunteers.

  • I like them because they still have that 'new girlfriend smell'.

  • I prefer to stay away from things that are bad for me, like cigs, too much booze and women my own age.

[–]recursoinominado18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

New girlfriend smell ahahahahaaha

[–]z2a1-913 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like them because they still have that 'new girlfriend smell'.

best one

[–]furcryingoutloud32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I like new cars too...

[–]z2a1-91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

haha nice

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ding ding ding - winner winner chicken dinner :)

[–]MotiMorphosys111 points112 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sarcastically agree. "Yeah, girls in their early to mid 20s are so unattractive"

Return to reality (if you know her history) "Yeah cause you never dated guys in their 30s when you were 25"

Agree and amplify "Seriously, I prefer women in their 40s. Much more appropriate"

[–]anxietyriddledbuddah43 points44 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

80's*

[–]ralphbuffalo35 points36 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

After hitting 30 women in their 20s became instantly available. The current women I've known for years are basically useless. Just let them know.

[–]AnneStaz7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Really? I'm always curious what its gonna be like in my 30s

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm 29, finally getting somewhere careerwise, getting in decent shape, have my own apartment for the first time. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and other women are starting to notice.

There is no secret to this (lift, read, make $$$ etc.). What I will say is that by 30 you have seen this game played out so many times that IDGAF attitude starts become internalised.

[–]RanaMahal2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

yeah i mean i try to be RP as much as i can but shits really hard at 24 lol. have my own business and also taking over my dad’s construction business as well, so i think a couple more years and i’ll be super set for money, i’m a hockey player so fairly fit already, and i consume books like it’s food at this point.

i just don’t have it completely internalized yet, but i think part of it is that i’ve basically known about RP in some form since i was 14 (my dad is kinda purple pilled i guess, he’s really RP but keeps conforming to family pressure and getting remarried) so i’ve never dealt with any of the shit women do cuz i’ve known they’re all crazy bitches since i started dating, it makes RP almost seem like a complete lie sometimes since i haven’t been burned yet

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It will come soon enough. For example, construction at first is a complicated game. If you work in the field for 10 years you will know how to talk to sub-contractors, what red flags to spot on-site, what equipment you need for a job etc. similarly for women, you play the game long enough you learn what works and what doesn't.

I was fortunate in having a blue pilled upbringing and got burnt badly a lot in my teens and early 20s. The truly crazy side of women doesn't come out often. It's usually a long slow grind where you give up ground in the relationship until she has complete control over you. Normal guys, once they get the girl are no longer on the offensive and just want someone easy to come home too. They don't expect shit tests.

It sounds like you've managed to leave relationships before they get to a stage where you're completely under control of the hamster. This is potentially dangerous if you don't have a healthy fear of the crazy you won't believe it when you see it (This happened to me). Maybe you're naturally red-pilled and this isn't as much of a shock to you as it is to many others.

Either way, trust your gut when it comes to women. If something doesn't feel right and you're not sure why, come back here and ask. Someone is bound to have experienced the same thing.

[–]RanaMahal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i wouldn’t say i’m some naturally red pulled alpha or anything, i just had it beaten into my skull that women aren’t amazing princesses by my dad. i think the quote i heard every conversation about women was “women are fucked”. my aunt did something stupid? “women are fucked”, asking my dad why my gf did some dumb shit? “women are fucked”

it’s just been so constant from my dad that on some base level i understand women are fucking crazy because their hamster wheel just spins out of control, i just find that usually i’ll end up dating a girl, and i give up ground until i get fed up with how she’s treating me now and i kick her ass to the curb. i never entirely knew what the fuck was going on or how to control it until very recently when i found this sub and other rp subs.

now i’ve got actual techniques and shit, and i have my first 2 “plates” going at the moment which is really cool and new for me. i just never understood how the fuck a good looking 6’2 hockey player would get fucked over by girls so much until i realized i can be as good looking as i wanna be but if i act like a bitch i’ll be treated like one. plans are now to never get married, i really want kids tho so i essentially made a deal with a longtime female friend who’s really level headed and doesn’t wanna get married either, to knock her up and co-parent when we’re 30 or so.

[–]Friendly-Casper13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The older women like that get, they become jealous of the women that are doing what they once did. That should be a very loud red flag to steer clear of them. They aren't even worth interacting with if they're going to be that negative after getting hit by the wall.

[–]Iluvalmonds8311 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don’t engage; it’ll just end badly all around. Let them wallow in their insecurities. And really, if they’re constantly downing other people in order to feel like they’re elevating themselves, it’s time for you to find better company.

[–]5t3fan010 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of me wants to engage... id like to have a quick retort ready to fire back

this is your ego talking, dont listen to it.

IF you play stupid games (comebacks, retorts) you WILL win stupid prizes (drama, shittalk, social backlash)

[–]redepicw8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Low value move to "fire back and shut them up" as you phrase it. Remove that need.

[–]skuttt8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. Don’t hang out with people that drain your energy
  2. Don’t give a shit about what they think. Don’t engage. Maintain frame.
  3. Change the subject via amused mastery

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper51 points52 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why are you hanging out with people who tear you down instead of building you up?

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you know every personality detail about every person at every single social event you go to in advance? Bucket-crabs are everywhere.

[–]Hungboy696942028 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"somebody's jealous "

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Me? Jealous of what? I have so much more wisdomTM and experienceTM than her."

Womanese glossary: "wisdom" = bitterness/entitlement, "experience" = 10,000 dicks

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

”And wrinkles. Oh, did I say that out loud?”

[–]z2a1-92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

haha awesome

[–]z2a1-92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yup

[–]LordFa93 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just tell them with a smirk on their face that this was them 10 years ago but they didn't lock down a man for whatever reason so sucks to be them

[–]bluepillcarl11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I know right...women in their 50s are MUCH more experienced in the bedroom

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]z2a1-91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol

[–]Standgrounding-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

username checks out

[–]bluepillcarl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So original bruh

[–]2319Skew7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter. Ignore.

Edit : Gotta ask why is a man in his thirties asking strangers for witty zingers for post wall women and soyboy cucks?

[–]harry_powell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I engaged before, and even if you win, it’s not fun. But the child in me do want to engage, so I need a half measure.

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

When I was, like, I dunno 33? I had this tight little Asian GF who was 22 but looked very young.

I got nasty looks everywhere!! I am white and she had browner skin, so we looked really odd together but I laughed it off. I got all kinds of comments about robbing the cradle and going after immature "submissive" women because I can't handle a "real" woman. The truth is, these older, uglier, lazy women are jealous, angry, and wish they were young again. So I paid it absolutely no mind. I also got weird looks from my uber driver as I am making out with my GF in his back seat, but who gives a f? Own it. You date younger women. So what? Why insecure about your choices? These women are adults and can choose to be with whomever they want? Why should anyone care what you do? Why do you even give one shat about what people think?

I look young for my age, so I suppose I didn't get the full scrutiny from everyone, but even if I did? I don't give a shat what anyone thinks. Why should someone I barely give a shat about control my life? Hell no, I own my life and direct where it goes on my own terms. I do not care what anyone thinks.

I am 36 now, and my new GF is a cute Vietnamese girl who is 30. She looks about 19 to some people. My dad asked me if she was old enough to be a mature partner because she looks so young. She is shorter than me because I am 6'2+ and I do not care what anyone thinks about how we "look" together. All that matters to me is how she treats me and what my GF thinks about me, no one else has any weight in my life. And for what it is worth, she isn't just mature, she is also a loving and kind woman who wants a good man, so she treats me very well.

[–]Naebany9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Seems like you have a type.

[–]PM_Happy_Puppy_Pics0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What kind of statement is that? You have a type too. Asia is a huge continent and they were from completely different cultures, countries, and backgrounds. But that's OK you don't have any type, right?

[–]Naebany4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Normal kind. A joke actually. Yeah I do. I like blondes.

[–]youcantdenythat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

first problem is you are deep in their frame which is why you want a quick retort. you care too much or you wouldn't have made this post.

second, you need to study amused mastery. once mastered it won't matter what you say.

third, once you are in the right mindset it will all look like a big joke to you so comments will come naturally and your frame will dominate. I would probably just tell them to stop acting butthurt with a sly grin. you won't be able to pull this off unless you have strong frame. if you don't have strong frame she will be insulted and tear you a new one. if you do, she will laugh at herself with you and move on.

[–]NeedRealityShock8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Ok boomer"

[–]sebastianconcept2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unpretentiously say: “I thought in 2019 we’re not this judgmental anymore”

[–]five_eight4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"We're all entitled to our preferences; I prefer women who appeal to me".

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of me wants to engage whenever I heard some shitty remark made by one of them, but also I kinda loathe getting dragged into a debate

The debate is horrible and will make you look bad, even though you're right and everyone agrees with you. BECAUSE you're right and everyone agrees with you.

The problem is that most people are in denial of biological facts, and they hate having to engage you to maintain the facade.

But still, I’d like to have a quick retort ready to fire back to shut them up fast.

I like to just go for "they're hot".... and when challenged, double down on it.

[–]Haytch12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just say younger women are less jaded and better looking.

If they get upset, you can simply say its a matter of personal preference. Turn it back on them... As if they would date or fuck some ugly, broke ass skinny little faggot.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just ask these wallhitters how old they are.

[–]occupynewparadigm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. I always tease them and tell them don’t be jelly. I’m 41 and only date girls 21-29.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you must retort, why not be a little "socratic"?

"Why do young women who get all the guys turn into old women who can't?"

[–]wanker71710 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of me wants to engage whenever I heard some shitty remark made by one of them

If they're just gossiping who gives a fuck, that's literally the kind of pointless drama women worry about. As a man you should be glad they're not including you in their bullshit.

[–]TheBunk_TB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I get good because Im that damn good"

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't engage is my idea

If you want to blow up the party just tell the truth, that younger women fuck better.

[–]Ivabighairy10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lions don’t care about the opinion of sheep

[–]maddisser1010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The shit talking stems from jealousy. Just sit back and let them bitch and moan.

[–]DoesItMatterTooYou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The best come back is to ignore and perhaps walk away.

My GF is early 20s and MUCH younger than I am. I think my favorite thing is I snagged her before she got bitter about life. Her smile is genuine and radiant. Even on hard days she sees the upside of what she learned from the day and the possibility of tomorrow.

Women my age are almost universally bitter and the rare ones that are not are taken (if they exist).

Why spend any time responding to any negative snarky comments?

[–]oldslut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

don't fight a war you're not involved in, especially when you have no chance at winning.

instead, why not just show up ext time with a hot young 20something and enjoy

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"She's old enough to be your daughter!"

"Funny you say that, she actually is my daughter! We ran into each other at the same satanic cult meeting, one thing led to another and we ended up consummating our unholy union in a hedonistic exhibitionist group sex ritual!"

[–]johnhello0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a fuck what they say; just say whatever you feel in the moment

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wall

[–]convictedfeline-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do they typically say? Need that first, then I can cast you some great spells

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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