Menopause and the red pill

Over60_FireTempered3 · 2019-12-07T01:14:22+00:00

I hear you guys shit all over yourselves about low T, and how you lose your desire. But you're too stupid to admit a woman with no T, no hormones, won't crawl over glass to fuck you.

Some women can't do HRT. Changes the game.

ObjectionTrue · 2019-12-07T02:59:01+00:00

Married 30 years, Red Pilled 18 months. Wife had complete hysterectomy over 13 years ago (after 3 kids). Thereafter my beta self got infrequent sex (2-3x month), and her lack of hormones didn't help. Few years after she started HRT, including some testosterone: this helped the quality of sex (wetness) and a slight increase in desire. Fast forward to 2 years ago when I started dieting, lifting and found RP. Lost 40 pounds. Now I'm 12% BF and all my lifts are advanced or elite (102.9 symmetric strength score), I say no, smack her ass, tease her, STFU, etc. And the sex? At least 3x week, no hard nos, using toys, dirty talk, admiring my body during sex, found out after 29yrs she can squirt. HRT is very important (otherwise they're bitchy and insane and dryness issues) BUT it's being jacked and red-pilled that creates attraction/desire. HRT = Slight improvement; HRT + RP + lifting heavy + low BF = attraction, desire and frequent crazy sex.

MillionaireSexbomb · 2019-12-07T01:00:46+00:00

For those whose wives suffer from atrophy, dryness, discomfort during sex and pills and creams aren’t working for them, I would recommend finding a doctor who has a vaginal rejuvenation device and performing a consult to see if there can be any improvement. It can improve sexual comfort and help some women with SUI. Probably a small minority of you guys have it but roughly 65% of women will experience symptoms like this from menopause at some point in their life.

man_in_the_world · 2019-12-07T09:36:38+00:00

Women may choose to have sex with a desirable man for some personal combination of one or more reasons, including

hormone driven libido
validation
mate retention
mate competition
emotional intimacy with a partner
to make a baby

Even with some attractions in play, most women will not voluntarily have sex with someone who displays unattractive characteristics; even a horny woman will choose to go home alone rather than fuck an undesirable man.

Menopause doesn't change these redpill truths about a woman's sexual attraction and desire, but it often reduces or removes many of her motivations for desiring or choosing sex. The hormonal shifts of menopause may affect each woman differently, but usually reduces or kills her hormone-based libido; pregnancy is also completely out; greater emotional maturity with age or hormonal shifts may reduce her desire for external validation through sex or to compete for mates.

Redpill methods for increasing desire remain the same, but typically have reduced effect with a menopaused woman, while unattractive behaviors that turn off her sexual interest remain in full force. So the effectiveness of various improvements or techniques may shift, a higher level of performance might be required, and the desire they produce might be reduced, but I can assure you from personal experience that the red pill still holds true for post-menopausal women.

floatingsidewalk · 2019-12-06T23:01:00+00:00

There are obvious and well known changes to physiology. None of these change your strategy or tactics. The physiological changes actually have a chance to make sexual interactions easier for some betas.

For example, a woman who is afraid of pregnancy (doesn't want YOUR sperm) may no longer be as inhibited.

In other, more negative cases (lubrication, changes in energy levels, etc) are really things that basic leadership (exercise, diet, financial, spiritual, recreational, etc.) and game should address.

Good luck, you sound like you have a long way to go.

SBIII · 2019-12-07T10:31:11+00:00

Get a younger woman.

Problem solved.

screechhater · 2019-12-07T11:53:00+00:00

Lift STFU. Be a man’s man, own your shit to a T, stoically emit giving no fucks- not even 10 of them to her emotion outbursts- temper tantrums, and get your diet/wardrobe under control

Hitting menopause, women say goodbye to the red train, but embrace fucking in a whole new manner- if your man enough to deliver.

The shit is the same, except the new lease on life is a confidence boost.

A lot of my friend’s Saharan wives pussies stem from their wives coming to terms that they just can’t mother them another year, or bear to the “Ham Beast Child” another time.

Get your shit together. As Over60_FireTempered3 would state, “it’s the same game they are just meaner at it”

Seriously, nothing you are going through is seriously out of your control to change by doing the work.

My story is I put so much time into a business, that one day, I came home early to fuck and the shit tests from the drunk menopausal LTR caught being off guard. I played into the whole menopausal bullshit for about 6 months.

I never let myself go in many levels - except I did fall into the mental duress shit test trap. Once I got that under control, I made the comment that I don’t “fuck women with short hair”

Sticking to that premise, I initiated and fucked her 60 days later as her hair grew in. It’s to her shoulders now. She got on HRT, got her UTI’s under control and lost weight.

Put in the work, love the results. They come around If your wirth it

Rock_Granite · 2019-12-07T00:30:48+00:00

I'm about your age, married 31 years. Post menopausal wife. What I have found is that the better I get at adopting attractive red pill behavior, the better my wife behaves. I am getting the best sex ever. The lesson for you is that the menopause is irrelevant. Get your shit together and your wife will start acting better. You've got to set some expectations and set some boundaries as well.

Good luck. Keep working at it and don't get discouraged. These things take time.

ur-238 · 2019-12-06T21:21:28+00:00

Same as any other time:

Be a man of value.

red-sfpplus · 2019-12-06T22:51:15+00:00

All my successful male friends whom have wives post menopausal are all on Female TRT.

There is a biological issue at play.

Question is are you a HVM to warrant her to do something?

NoCoast82 · 2019-12-07T03:29:38+00:00

Get her on hormone replacement therapy

It will likely improve her sex drive at the slight cost of increasing here likelyhood of breast cancer by nearly 300% over the next 10 years.

Hormones matter

I feel like a lot of guys around here don't do the reading.

Put her out to pasture, or double mastectomy + hormone therapy and her vag can get wet again

Perfectinmyeyes · 2019-12-07T10:43:56+00:00

I think you got your work cut out for you. Here is the thing thou... As mentioned rp fixes the man not the marriage.

So weather you do the rp or not and weather you stay with this woman or not, its up to you.

Why not work on you so you perhaps can have a more fulfilling marriage... And if not your next one will have a better chance.

Forget all that negative talk about feeling bad and ashamed.

DirtyNuke · 2019-12-06T22:09:32+00:00

As an older guy with a 20-year PM (full hysterectomy in her 40's) all the sidebar, theory and practices apply but the most important thing is get on OYS. If you're not posting OYS, why not?

HornsOfApathy · 2019-12-06T21:20:50+00:00

The reasons for desire are universal for all women regardless of age. Security is only higher for older women.

screechhater · 2019-12-07T11:58:39+00:00

Serious as fuck- do the work and glass will be trodden over to fuck you. By her or any other post wall meno woman.

The aggressiveness at the meno age is far different than the baby making years. Put your seat belt on - if your man enough

Over60_FireTempered3 · 2019-12-07T01:53:20+00:00

OP make no mistake that RP can help you.

Whether you can save this relationship, that you have described as a dumpster fire that Capt Sav-A-Hoe (you) set on fire, and, you keep feeding, is another question.

You get what you deserve, as a result of your actions as a man. It is your actions not your words that matter. As you know, your actions so far are crap.

Yes, you can learn to better yourself, save yourself using RP over time. Again, whether the relationship survives is not up to you anyway.

One more thing. Don't expect her to get all wet for you, when she literally can't. Many women can't do the HRT and expecting any different is just stupid. She can have (gain) the desire to please you, even if her jolly button is worn out (won't get wet by itself).

Based on what little you've done so far, that's all you get.

BobbyPeru · 2019-12-07T03:45:19+00:00

So, it sounds like you feel you are being manipulated. Why are you still with this woman? You know, you do have a choice every day.

learning0007 · 2019-12-13T12:51:52+00:00

Ended it with her last week. Latest blowup, while my fault for not leading all these years, was unacceptable. Going forward, lifting, reading, my career, and plate spinning, in that order.