Anti-Rape Program Teaching Women how to say "no" Halves Number of Campus Assaults

CopperFox3c · 2015-06-17T18:22:46+00:00

Whoa, whoa, whoa, RedPillSchool ... are you suggesting that teaching people about personal responsibility - that there are consequences for the choices they make in life - leads to better outcomes??? That's just crazy talk ...

All kidding aside, it's amazing what common sense can accomplish when put to good use. For some reason, we don't seem to value common sense as much as we used to. People are way too caught up in worrying about "how things should be", rather than dealing with "how things actually are".

NakedAndBehindYou · 2015-06-17T19:11:21+00:00

If a woman can say "no" and end a sexual assault, do you know what that says about these so-called "sexual assaults"? They never existed to begin with. They were just examples of women having consensual sex but regretting it afterwards, or having consensual sex that they didn't "really" want to have but they were too afraid to say no, but then blamed the guy for anyways.

knitro · 2015-06-18T11:51:06+00:00

Here's how avoid getting robbed

Oh that's helpful advice

Here's how to avoid gang violence

So useful

Here's how to avoid a scam

Awesome, you're a lifesaver

Here's how to avoid rape

RAPE APOLOGIST SCUM

LetMeSideBarThatForU · 2015-06-17T19:42:14+00:00

Anti rape program = Teach girls how to say no.

Rape = Violent sexual assault.

Sexual Assault = Any form of sexual molestation that occurs without consent from the victim.

Anti false-rape report program = Teach girls they are responsible to say no.

Results = False rape reports drop by over 50% assuming some of the reports are legitimate.

Lessons learned?

BRING BACK SOCIAL SHAMING.

Cyralea · 2015-06-17T20:21:05+00:00

Let's be honest about one thing, rape hysteria has little to do with rape or the prevention of rape. It's a Feminist power play. The rape card is one of the most powerful tools in the victim-complex toolkit that feminists use. Not a man alive can attack a rape "victim" and come out ahead socially.

Using this knowledge, feminists have found a way to ensure that there are zero consequences for acting out on their hypergamy, and all of it falls on the shoulders of men. Dude you randomly fucked last night ended up being a huge beta? Use the rape card to get out of that faux-pas. Alpha player refusing to commit? Play the rape card, his image is ruined forever.

Teach Men Not to Rape has nothing to do with actually reducing rape, but with keeping the focus on men being aggressors to poor, innocent women. This narrative is useful, and not something feminists want to do away with. If they did, they'd do something radical like teach women how to say no to unwanted sexual advances.

Hokuto199x · 2015-06-17T18:45:32+00:00

You know, it's like any other crime. I know where the bad parts of town are. Should I walk around there alone and unarmed with a wad of $100 bills and a gold watch? If I get mugged the mugger is still wrong, but I'll be damned if it wasn't stupid to be putting myself in that situation.

Invalidity · 2015-06-17T18:29:44+00:00

I would posit that the worst thing to come out of law is the notion that people cannot give consent when they are intoxicated. When two people are intoxicated, by that law, neither party is able to give consent. If sex happens then, who is responsible? By illogical and irrational decision, the male will always be held responsible.

Does this make sense? No, it doesn't. And it likely will never have to make sense. This law strips women of all accountability because it doesn't attempt to help women avoid bad situations, but rather says, if anything happens, it's not your fault. It is never a woman's fault.

On top of that, the idea of creating safe spaces for women goes hand in hand with this. Let's strip all accountability from women, and yet, lets designate all matters of places wherein drinking is involved as a safe space.

It is not the environment that is unsafe, it is the substance being consumed. Yet for all it is worth, feminists will NEVER argue against alcohol. Why? Because most of them know that it helps them pursue men at higher SMVs.

The solution: Pin all the blame on low SMV males, and incriminate them before any action has even occurred.

Tell me that is absolutely not fucking stupid.

vandaalen · 2015-06-17T19:12:51+00:00

Wat?

Are you trying to tell me that I have got control over how people percieve me and are acting towards myself and that I actually have the power to change the image I represent by adjusting my behaviour and appearance?

Are you really attempting to sell to me, that in the end it is actually myself who could make a difference and not the thousands of strawmen I put up to blame?

That's too damned complicated for me. You better tell other people to not do those bad things they do and you better don't tell me to change. I don't like change. Especially if it involves me having to put effort in doing so.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-06-17T21:47:31+00:00

Let's assume:

0 is "absolute objective reality".

100 is "bat shit crazy fantasy land".

The Overton Window represents the attitudes that a culture will accept as valid at any point in time. Anything outside this window is dismissed as "weird and unacceptable".

So let's say the Overton Window spans the region 86 through 93.

Within the window the idea that "Men are all Rapists" makes perfect sense.

Now add this experiment (above) where actual reality gets introduced... what happens?

You go from somewhere in the 86-93 range directly to zero.

When Feminism finally collapses it does so suddenly, almost like a light bulb goes on and people are suddenly able to see how things are. (basically a Red Pill moment)

This is why our ability to present actual raw Truth is so brutal, it doesn't just back the Overton Window down a few points, but instead sends it all the way back to reality... back to zero. This knowledge should give inspiration because while it took literally a hundred years of pushing and pushing from the left to create these delusions, it can disappear in an instant.

exit_sandman · 2015-06-17T20:00:53+00:00

What, you mean men are less likely to push for sex when you actually say "no"? Woah, what a novel concept, let's not get carried away here guys!

kalstate · 2015-06-17T19:04:42+00:00

I don't believe for one moment that women or feminists actually fear rape. If you think that something as scary as rape might actually occur then you would be doing everything in your power to prevent it. You would latch on to every little thing you can find that'd help you solve the problem because in a rape culture, nobody's coming to do it for you. We see that principle demonstrated first hand at TheRedPill. We learn that the world's against us and immediately start lifting and learning.

The only thing that can explain women refusing to take responsibility for stopping rape is that they've assessed the risk and find it to be so atrociously low that it's just not even worth considering when choosing how to act. They've figured out that political leverage is valuable and that opening themselves up to rape is a negligible cost because almost nobody actually gets raped in 2015 and those who do, tend to be piss poor---not feminists.

RedPillAnonymous · 2015-06-18T13:07:53+00:00

Rapes were not halved, if simply saying no stopped it then feminists are genuinely calling consensual yet unwanted sex rape. This is women making up definitions of rape. There was no sexual "violence", if a "no" is all it takes to stop a man from having sex with you, he is not nor was he about to be a rapist.

nuesuh · 2015-06-18T13:14:03+00:00

If you aren't mature enough to say "no" or "stop doing that, i'm not like those girls :3", you're not old enough to make out with men.

jimjackjoe · 2015-06-18T11:36:47+00:00

Direct quote from a friend on facebook: "Rather than teach women how to negotiate for the pay they deserve, how about we teach employers not to discriminate against women." Translation: "How about instead of me learning a useful skill, everyone else just changes so I don't have to do anything." Basically the same as the "teach men not to rape" argument. I love it.

mikesteane · 2015-06-17T23:47:47+00:00

Only 22 young women need to receive the program for one completed rape to be averted.

Thus one in 11 women are raped. If you start of with a cooked figure like that to start with, then the final results are as worthless as the first number you made up.

[deleted] · 2015-06-18T00:44:07+00:00

Wait until the feminists backlash at this idea because it's victim blaming. It got good results? Don't care, it's victim blaming.

[deleted] · 2015-06-18T05:18:46+00:00

Women don't want to defend themselves, they want someone else to defend them.

RedPillAnonymous · 2015-06-18T13:16:06+00:00

"It was the leftist culture of nonsense that crippled women's decision making capabilities by telling them that they are responsible for zero percent of their actions, and that any resulting consequences must be the fault of the man in the situation."

Couldn't keep it in could you? Sorry but "leftism" whatever that means, isn't at fault, traditional cultures ("rightists"?) and especially traditional men are far worse when it comes to holding women accountable. They are the first to go full white knight for a "good girl" when she loses her discretion and indulges in some drunken cock. She cries rape and all the good little traditionalists come running to lynch the guy.

Don't put this off on those of us who choose not to believe in god, or in sociopathic corporations, or in endless wars for no reason, or in education ect.

this_guy2001 · 2015-06-17T23:08:16+00:00

The other day, on the slutwalk comment section, this one female was upset that people were not listening to the feminists' side and that they cut off one of the feminists before she had a chance to explain. She said people don't realize how many times rape goes unreported, to which she admitted to not reporting her episode.

My question is: why wouldn't you report something like that? This isn't like when your nephew walked out of Walmart with a handful of candy you didn't pay for.

Mildly_Sociopathic · 2015-06-18T13:32:37+00:00

Do they take breathing lessons too? Fucking idiots being needed to be taught how to say no.

PeteMullersKeyboard · 2015-06-17T20:06:38+00:00

How long until some fucking knuckle dragger calls this out as being sexist. I'm sure someone already has, we just haven't seen it yet.

Its almost like...taking responsibility for your own fucking life works out in your favor...who fucking knew...I need to go process this for a bit...

watersign · 2015-06-17T23:29:38+00:00

or just say yes to chad all the time. chad doesnt rape!

[deleted] · 2015-06-18T00:39:34+00:00

get past emotional roadblocks to resist unwanted sexual behaviors

what the fuck?

When someone grabs you and push you against a wall, tears your pants down and pulls his dick off, the girl still has to check if she feels like resisting the assault? But wait, if she doesn't feel like it, that's not rape right? That's a new step in non sense land.

Transmigratory · 2015-06-18T02:04:57+00:00

That explains why the feminazis didn't want this to happen.

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GSstreetfighter · 2015-06-17T22:08:59+00:00

Some girls want so badly to have credentials of oppression that they will lie about being assaulted to join the ranks. Kind of like Bug Chasers.

TheQuestion78 · 2015-06-17T21:22:43+00:00

I can accept that guys nowadays need to be fully fucking clear with their intent/being not forceful in sexual situations...

..But COME ON! Women really need hours of training just to learn the simple fucking fact that they can say "No!" and all of the sudden the guy knows not to proceed further!? I know women can be illogical but this is illogical to the third power.

And clearly this reveals how loose the definition of "sexual assault" has become. Sexual relations between men and women never changed. What changed was that a bad sexual experience is simply not a mistake anymore, rather bad sex=sexual assault.

I'm a college student and MGTOW so it doesn't matter, but this kind of shit is what makes me fear for my fellow college friends. One of my friends has joked about getting everyone in our group tape-recorders so that we can always have a tool to record consent. Sadly, his idea would actually go a long way to protecting men. It's really depressing and this is definitely an area where feminism has gone WAYYY too far.

thelandofdreams · 2015-06-17T23:19:12+00:00

You forgot to put quotes around "assaults"

Xuixien_TheEpic · 2015-06-17T23:58:11+00:00

If feminists really care about the welfare of women, they're going to have to concede this point.

Sir_Shitlord_focker · 2015-06-19T06:39:18+00:00

Down from what ? the imaginary 1 in 4 ? That's one way to do progress I suppose, make up an imaginary problem and then solve it.

Today I cured foot cancer. Yay me.

collidoscope · 2015-06-19T19:42:20+00:00

How were these considered rapes in the first place if the girls weren't saying "no"?

RedBigMan · 2015-06-18T00:11:26+00:00

Recently, when the whole "scandal" came out about some senators or congressmen who won't be alone with female staffers, the feminists had a hissy fit over it.

I had a whole argument with a few of them about it. I maintained that it's a good policy to have to save yourself from rape accusations. But of course, there's no talking sense with them....

Fake_Credentials · 2015-06-17T23:04:44+00:00

If possessing certain knowledge and tools can prevent other crimes like, like murder, it can also prevent rape. The difference is, the crime of rape is nearly always done towards women, and you can't expect them to function well enough to implement said knowledge and tools in heated situations.

Ever notice how most women handle crisis situations? They scream and/or sob hysterically while a man takes care of it for them.

Chaohinon · 2015-06-18T04:56:42+00:00

You mean it doesn't make any sense to shout at non-psychopaths about how they need to teach psychopaths how to be less psychopathic? Next you'll try telling me I can't teach a grizzly bear to not do grizzly bear stuff. Fucking shit lords with your mansplainingcislogik.

antariusz · 2015-06-18T09:59:15+00:00

Imagine how many more rapes could have been prevented if they had also decided to teach women not to rape!

KurrKurr · 2015-06-18T11:04:03+00:00

[META] This post doesn't obey the new posting rules.

No summary, no lessons learnd. Why isn't this post deleted, yet?

/s

RedBigMan · 2015-06-18T11:08:40+00:00

Only 22 young women need to receive the program for one completed rape to be averted.

You would think with the epidemic of rape happening on campus and 1 in 4 women getting raped and what not that 22 women getting this program would stop 5-6 rapes or something. /s

It's like securing anything... You just need to make it difficult enough that a criminal will take a pass on it because it's too much of a hassle of taking the risk of committing a crime when the reward is nowhere near worth the effort.

screamingATtrees · 2015-06-19T02:03:50+00:00

"but I shouldn't have to do anything to avoid rape" lol

buddboy · 2015-06-18T01:11:11+00:00

you are only focusing on the part of the article tha supports our redpill view. No

teaching women to avoid a bad situation and actually vocalize the word "no," when they don't want sex cleared up the rape cases.

That is only part of the story, the article says

The program also spent two hours teaching self-defense strategies.

You can't claim that women only needed to be taught the word no to avoid rape when they also spent time learning self defense strategies. Both of these parts of the class must be taken into account but you are completely ignoring half of the story.

[deleted] · 2015-06-17T23:15:55+00:00

What's sad is that we still harbor the delusion that feminism is for women. That this is some how a movement to make women's lives better, more equal.

But this isn't about equality and anyone who stills believes so is a fool of the highest order. These are college educated women, following college educated women. They already know the cause and effect of social behavior.

We refuse to acknowledge this because doing so would mean finally accepting once and for all that this isn't women being crazy, it's a fight. The educated American woman is making her push for the top of the food chain, simple and plain.

Being a victim allows them to generalize anyone who is against them as wrong and evil. Being a victim is their religion because like religion it gives them armor and protection. You're no longer disagreeing with them, you're agreeing to rape and domestic abuse and victim blaming and slut shaming and whatever other bullshit they put on you.

Being a victim IS their power. Why the fuck would they want to purposely give it away?

Understand you are dealing with women who don't give a fuck about women getting raped. They're always on the lookout for the perfect martyr, the perfect new story. They're like the inventor of the rape whistle, a man whose profits only rise if women are actually getting raped.

If you've ever been in a relationship, hell if you've ever had a mother, then you know there's no ACTUAL problem to fix. If we stopped all rapes in America, they'd push domestic abuse. If we fixed that, they'd push pay wage. If you fixed that, they'd push something else, and something else, and something else.

America is turning into that really cool friend you had who got married and 3 years later became an empty husk because he thought if he just always said yes to his wife that she'd finally stop complaining.

BlueFreedom420 · 2015-06-17T21:25:07+00:00

Too bad laws are changed so that a woman doesn't have to say no and just call the police months, even years later.

Add to the fact that alot of rape claims are just women who want to gain that victim cred that they were taught by liberals as sacred.

[deleted] · 2015-06-17T22:48:59+00:00

That's actually the University where I graduated.

[deleted] · 2015-06-17T23:53:38+00:00

This comes across as LMR shit test 101. This kind of pseudo empowerment is merely to embolden would-be sluts to fuck WITH men instead of actually fucking us.

A419a · 2015-06-18T12:40:57+00:00

If a 'no' stops it, then it was sexual assault to begin with.