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Disclaimer: The article is worthless, but it's a good example of the utter cluelessness of the female hamster. Nothing new to RP theory here, but it'll be new to some readers, and the rest of us can still get a hearty chuckle. Basic concept: AF/BB.


(Of course the article is only about so-called born-again female virgins.)

Becoming a born again virgin isn't a physical concept, it's more a conscious decision to abstain from sex until you're married. Essentially, it's free virginity pass, even if you've already ... had a child.

This same publication, along with all of media and society, tells women that virginity is nothing special, in fact it's something you should try to lose as soon as you're ready. Yet, somehow, it has value again when you're trying to get commitment from a man.

However, it is not just celebrities that are abstaining from physical intimacy. Jo, a 28-year-old single, retail manager from Melbourne, relates to their desire to wait. She has put the breaks on all sexual relationships until she's found a man whose willing to put a ring on it. In a world of Tinder and casual hookups, she believes chastity is an underrated virtue. "I lost my virginity at 16 to a douche bag, in an indoor sports centre. It was a cold and unemotional experience. He dumped me the next day. I've had one relationship and more than a handful of hookups since. I have always struggled with intimacy. So, after one more disastrous sexual relationship that led nowhere, I decided that I was going to take my time and wait for some form of commitment before I jumped into bed. It's essentially a sex detox to clean the negativity out of my system."

After 12 years of fucking guys -- lots of guys -- this whore has only fucked one who thought she was worth even the minimal commitment of calling her his girlfriend. Now that she's mostly used up, she's out looking for some poor beta who will give her the ultimate commitment without even a fuck first.

Jo believes she'll hold out until her wedding night finally comes. "It's going to be magical because I feel as if my body and mind have been purified," she said, optimistically.

No it won't. The schlub dumb enough to marry her -- and there will be one -- is going to be far lower value than the douchebags she fucked before. Why? Because if he was anywhere near the same level as her previous lovers, he wouldn't have to settle for her worn-out ass. He'd be able to marry a higher quality woman (or he'd still be out having one night stands). So, the sex with this loser is going to be worse than the no-strings-attached sex she remembers having in her late teens and early 20s.

[–]Rommel0502277 points278 points  (14 children) | Copy

Equivalent statement -

"The Cock Carousel I rode for the past ten years really didn't happen."

[–]iHeartCapitalism points points [recovered] | Copy

"I just wish the bank would put aside my lack of a steady job and past when I was financially wreckless and wrecked my credit score, and give me a loan of $500k! Last week I became born-again financially responsible!"

[–]FinallyRed6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The analogy would be more complete if there was zero legal requirement to pay back the $500k loan.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself125 points126 points  (9 children) | Copy

"and unlike the football team in college that I sucked off, I want you to wine and dine me, propose to me in a Facebook friendly manner, and pay for my wedding before I give you starfish sex"

[–]textualintercourse32 points33 points  (3 children) | Copy

All an attempt to make their used up pussy a commodity on the futures market again.

[–]Texas_Rangers13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love this sub.

The crazy thing is, she doesn't seem to realize that you can't just erase 12 years of CC because you "feel like it" or "abstaining" now. Of course your just "abstaining" now at 28 when guys are starting to give you less attention than they did in your early years.

[–]textualintercourse4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, when they try to say I "feel" like one of the 97 genders.. holy shit, anything is possible I suppose.

What's the mathematical formula used to determine those wage gaps between them all? SMH

[–]canyoustopp points points [recovered] | Copy

The thing is, a whore will always be a whore irrespective of what she says or does.

If she hasn't been laid in a while and the guy comes across as a high tier beta, she might fuck him just to keep him around.

The key is to be pretend to be that BP beta. The intelligent, nice, family oriented guy game.

Works more often than you'd think.

[–]Texas_Rangers points points [recovered] | Copy

The intelligent, nice, family oriented guy game.

That's my game homey. Except trying to knock off the nice part.

What's BP?

[–]RED_PILL_TRUTH241 points242 points  (11 children) | Copy

I saw this earlier on my morning read through of Drudge, and couldn't wait for it to show up here. This shit just warms my heart. The most blue pill idea of all in a polished media ready package: that the final buyer is the ultimate prize winner. Not the guy at the gym when she was 16, not my frat bros when she was 18, or that 20 year old mistake in Cabo, or her boss at 26. They aren't the winners, the guys who grabbed the Costco free sample along the way.

The true winner is the recipient of the enlightened woman who has Found HerselfTM after the gang bangs at SAE and the post grad Euro-Trip. Only a Real ManTM with a steady supply of blue suppositories can handle a woman like that anyways.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor39 points40 points  (0 children) | Copy

Costco free sample along the way

Chad can spend all Saturday there and still not taste all the samples.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol if you haven't been dumped by a chick who wanted to Find Herself then you havent lived!

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana40 points41 points  (1 child) | Copy

Once you shoot the bullet out of the gun, you can't suck it back in.

[–]aanarchist13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

especially if said bullet was aimed at poor beta bob's heart.

[–]BigGreezy27034 points35 points  (6 children) | Copy

I bet a lot of people who spent time in prison would like to be born-again non-felons. How about that! Lol.

[–]OilyB17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeh, after 29 times of cheating in 2 relationships, I've decided I'm now a born again monogamist! Hurray! "I've never cheated!"

[–]BigGreezy27011 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

And does she really expect us to believe that she had 1 relationship and a "handful" of hookups in 12 years?? Lol, I would bet her N-count is a significant triple-digit number.

[–]iamz3ro0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

She has not, technically cheated since being born-again. She just hopes that you won't ask "but before being born again..."

[–]OilyB2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not saying she cheated, I was just referring to a theme where the same trick would play out great for me: just wipe my own slate clean. It's like being your own Roman Catholic priest - "I absolve myself". Very handy trick. Problem is, it works fine, in Disneyland!

[–]Viking_RnP54 points55 points  (2 children) | Copy

My dick would crawl back inside my body if a woman told me she was a born again virgin.

[–]iamz3ro15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

"I'll be right back, I forgot the condoms in my car"

[–]Oz70NYC2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

And then ghost when she tries to text. Don't even bother looking at it.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon114 points115 points  (44 children) | Copy

This idea that a woman can reclaim her virginity and is "not that girl anymore" despite fucking Chad1 thru 99 for the past ten years is amazing.

What's more amazing is some men's willingness to ascribe to her all the blessings and benefits of virginity despite her skyhigh bodycount, merely by virtue of withholding sex with him and only him. How special he must feel!

From https://therationalmale.com/2012/12/19/the-epiphany-phase/

It’s during this stage that women will make radical shifts in their prioritization of what prerequisite traits qualify as ‘attractive’ in a  man and attempt to turn over a new leaf by changing up their  behaviors to align with this new persona they create for  themselves. 

It's going to be magical because I feel as if my body and mind have been purified," she said, optimistically.

Haha I love that the original article had "optimistically" written there at the end :)

It's great that these women are 28 and 33. It's like they're following the script to the letter.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat35 points36 points  (12 children) | Copy

Also see Rollo's most recent update on the topic, in which he discusses how women reinvent this image of themselves as good waiting girls in order to hide the fact that betas are not that attractive to her anymore:


And my addendum to it suggesting women also make betas wait in order to test for the quality of their betahood:

That thesis is simple enough Rollo, but I think you're missing another huge evolutionary incentive at making beta Bob wait. See, Bob here is for her a mean to fulfill the betabux side of her dual sexual strategy, and in order to optimise it, she needs to make sure he's willing to give a lot of his resources in exchange for her sexual access. And what better test for Bob's willingness to share as much of possible of his resources whatever she brings to the table than checking how long will he be willing to wait for sex and how much time, attention and money will he be willing to spend before she finally opens her legs for him?

I would therefore surmise that making beta Bob wait before sex is for the post-wall woman not only an expression of her lukewarm sexual interest in him but also a test for optimal beta qualities. That is, she may be "settling" for a lower-SMV man and not liking it one bit, but she's still unconsciously going for the best deal she can get. Just like she shit-tests potential alphafux to verify the quality of their alphahood, she "wait-tests" potential betabux to verify the quality of their betahood.

I would add an addendum to this addendum: post-wall women making men wait re-invent their image as a good girl because they know that's what they need to attract a beta. Taking into account the following from a recent comment of mine:

The alpha male has in theory so many women to bang he wouldn't care sharing one or two. That's what we see in practice. For example, the sexual strategy most advocated on TRP, spinning plates, is a fundamentally alpha strategy and it would thrive in a society where women's dual sexual strategy is the norm. The problem is only that it's a lot of work to become alpha enough to be able to be selected as a lover by many women and that by definition not everyone can be a top 10% value man. The truth is that it's the beta who wouldn't tolerate having to share his chick with an alpha dude. Women's sexual strategy totally fucks up with the beta's sexual strategy. Indeed men's sexual strategy is also dual but the Manosphere has not discussed the topic as much. I'd venture giving it the following definition:

Men's dual sexual strategy: "If possible, fuck a large variety of chicks. If not, exchange the commitment of my resources to get one but ensure that she gives birth to (and raises) MY kids."

Then very obviously, the image of a good girl is of paramount importance to attract a beta.

Hence women entering the epiphany phase and switching their strategy from AF to BB must reinvent themselves as prude girls. This is necessary both to test for a prospective male's beta qualities AND to show good mate value to said prospective beta males.

[–]aanarchist10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

tldr if you meet a nice girl who makes you dinner and treats you like a king but doesn't put out, great. gratefully accept the things she gives you and give her equal in return, but get your physical and emotional needs met elsewhere with a woman who is actually willing to indulge you. monogamy for a man is completely obsolete unless the woman he finds is a literal unicorn, and that's a bad bet to take.

[–]Rufferto_n_Groo2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

If the nice girl is under 22, this is ok. Keep up the pressure on her for 6 months. If all is still going well, ring it if that's in your plans and desires.

If it's a 30 year old, take that dinner and go bang a plate later.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

ring it if that's in your plans and desires

Do Not Marry

Not even at 22. Marriage is a one-sided providership contract. It is simply a terrible deal for men due to our modern laws and modern customs. Marriage makes man a stepping stone for r a woman's AF/BB strategy.

[–]Rufferto_n_Groo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

WHAT /u/MattyAnon SAYS IS TRUE (1)(2)(3)

(1) This rule may be broken and the user may graduate when they have internalized and mastered Game. Risk may only be managed, not eliminated

(2) You will not enjoy the decline. It's not going to be fun within 5 years. Rather, someone else will be having !!FUN!! with you.

(3) A human's role in their nation, culture, etc. is historically one of two things: Breed or fight/die. Choose one. The future is won by whoever has the most children.

[–]abstractplebbit1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

This makes sense in theory but I think there might be a problem with this being useful and here is why:

A girl would marry an alpha if she could

[–]JorixKienu1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

A girl would marry an alpha if she could

A girl would marry a guy she thinks is an alpha AND THEN treat he as a total beta provider ( materially and attention wise) until he is nullified to become a zeroed beta provider.

Before that point she will cuck him (at the slightest chance) and when she is sufficiently bored she will divorce rape him to suck the remaining juice in his living corpse.

The alpha male is a myth, women first try to "create" the one that fancy her fantasy and then "chiew and spite" whoever fail into this wrongful spell.

Ok, this is a rant. Just something I have to spit.

[–]ShakaLeonidas0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Finally somebody understands the game!

[–]JorixKienu0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

My problem used to be that I do NOT understand the game at all.

Now I'm starting to get it, but the shit I let myself involved is so deep that...

And is not oneit, not at all.

[–]ShakaLeonidas0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

We all come to the realizing one way or another hence "Red Pill Rage". So many people find the Red pill and look to plug back in as better versions of themselves aka "Ciphers" wishing to forget everyhing everything previously and storm forward attending to create Blue Pill dreams under better circumstances. SOME are purple pill "Neos" aka PUA Manipulating the source code to their benefit in an attempt to live in and out of the Matrix. Some are "Morpheus" aka Seasoned redpill contributors like Rollo, BGS IBMOR, Rom Wills, Tom Leykis, GLO, Barbirosa. Grooming and guiding from the front lines but being fully aware of the Pitfalls of both existences and providing a map, but but not a Path. You have the "Marovingian" aka MGTOW whom operate off the grid. Some pop in here and there and play a behind the scenes roll but most stay secluded like monks left to their own devices. The only "xionist" are ruched deep off in 3rd world countries but they still feel the fallout of the system.

The games always going Esther Villar's manipulated man is true testament of that. Honestly alot of men simply wish to be used.

[–]JorixKienu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like your description / comparison of the different male "characters" on RedPill / MGTOW continuum. Evocative and desciptive

I was one of the many who wishes to be manipulated ( or simply trusted that the game was not so rigged but that doesn't really matter). But I am no more.

My actual dilemma is the actual circumstances of my present life. I'm fully forced to not act as I wish / as is in my best interest. My circumstances dictate that if I act , I'll disqualify myself to myself. If i act now I'll not be able to live with myself after.

Believe me or not, that's not onoeit. I hate the situation and the woman, but not for the same reasons.

[–]HobbesTheBrave41 points42 points  (2 children) | Copy

This idea that a woman can reclaim her virginity and is "not that girl anymore" despite fucking Chad1 thru 99 for the past ten years is amazing.

I'm a politically right-of-center, devout christian man. And I've not laughed this much for a long while. The idea that guys wouldn't spot whores and sluts from girls who keep themselves chaste, it's fucking laughable. It's the first, second and third thing we judge Our Sisters on, and I'm like, we've learnt how to spot that shit a mile away.

Any new girl we meet, we know within an hour how she has lived.

[–]wayc00ljr points points [recovered] | Copy

Very true. Some can fool you until they start talking.

[–]vwzwv29 points30 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's going to be magical because I feel as if my body and mind have been purified," she said, optimistically.

I know she's a used up whore. She feels as if her mind and body have been purified.

It's a he said, she said thing.

[–]aanarchist12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

take a person who's been sober 2 years after being a drug addict for at least 10, put them next to someone who has been eating green and working out. same age, very different auras, personalities, bodies.

[–]reddit_sucks33 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

"eating green"


Jesus christ kill yourself.

[–]ChummyChad5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You made no effort to understand his argument which would have cost you 2 less glucose molecules than it took you to write your response.

[–]abc692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

He made a point, you didn't. I rather have him stay with us instead of you

[–]ag_blank2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

aura=the quick judgement people apply to other people out of intuitive clues, from clothing to your gaze

I think you're literally the only retard in this sub that understood some new age shit from that word

[–]KnowBrainer46 points47 points  (9 children) | Copy

It's really strange to me how willing women are to devalue the concept of virginity by making it a two-way street.

Sluts are dumb as hell.

Side note: My unicorn threw a 6-year-old style tantrum last night, proving AWALT.

[–]wayc00ljr points points [recovered] | Copy

Over something incredibly important? 😂

[–]rockmasterflex20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

Whether or not he closed the trash bag before putting it in the trash can was super important, okay?

[–]yomo8610 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

There can only be one, man, it can only be the toilet seat. Remember Highlander.

[–]flam3srock1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah he put the toilet paper on the wrong way.

[–]Nay20031 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Over is right. Under is wrong.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

He wasn't listening intently enough when she was drone on about how a Facebook "friend" disrespected her. It's the sort of thing that causes wars.

[–]Rufferto_n_Groo4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Shit-test mastered? Don't leave us hanging.

[–]KnowBrainer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I just treat her the age she acts, and she keeps herself under control most the time.

I'm not looking forward to the day she snags a Chad... But I've dropped plates before and can do it again.

[–]aanarchist19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

it's almost comical that there are men that consent to such barbaric treatment. i don't understand how any dude thinks it's ok like i'd be happy to wait for marriage with a virgin but with someone who's made some seriously bad decisions, why on earth would any man consent to being treated like he is below some loser she gave it up to for free. if anything she should be the one buying him the ring and the house and being a perfect angel to show him that she's serious and not just a piece of shit.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

What a crock of shit. Hahha

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]Danr6302 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did a chick who considered herself '6 months from a born again virgin'... she still hates me lol.

[–]gistaminute8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy

I feel like I'm watching a playdoh fun factory of chicks I know going from 26-32 in the last several years... in that it's the exact same pattern. Not looking forward to what 33 has to offer these poor souls, but they're clawing at my ankles on FB as I'm a former-BB who's now in a rich city (and variably rich).

I'm starting to be more open and it's gotten me into trouble until I found a way to finesse... but people ask why I'm single and who I'm looking for so I answer like, "well I'll want kids in 5 or so years, and I don't want complications so we should be done by the time she's 32... so I guess she'd be about 25 right now..." sometimes with snark like "we might want some time to fall in love too" (I am early-30s). I've answered with less finesse that's gotten me in trouble, eg. "mainly under 25".

I've dated 20-23 consistently for the last year, granted I'm often dry dick and they're mostly .5ONS (half night stand), would be hard pressed to find a worthy 25 year old.

[–]yomo8614 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Grain of wisdom I picked up from my boss: If you are under 50 you can always tell that the near future is the right time to start a family.

He was right. Today a girl asked me that (my sister-in-law) it shut her up quite nicely and politely. I had a job interview yesterday, the nuts in HR asked me what I wanted in the future. I lied and told them a nice family. It shut them up. Those morons never question the narrative.

[–]lelease2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

"well I'll want kids in 5 or so years, and I don't want complications so we should be done by the time she's 32... so I guess she'd be about 25 right now..." sometimes with snark like "we might want some time to fall in love too" (I am early-30s). I've answered with less finesse that's gotten me in trouble, eg. "mainly under 25".

Is it just sassy post-wall sluts getting envious, or do you actually get in trouble for it? Asking for my future self...

I've dated 20-23 consistently for the last year, granted I'm often dry dick and they're mostly .5ONS (half night stand), would be hard pressed to find a worthy 25 year old.

Any noteworthy observations/patterns?

[–]psyduck1170 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How'd you make your money breh?

[–]The-Peter-Principle0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes every data point lends weight to the hypothesis. Love it

[–]Oz70NYC44 points45 points  (5 children) | Copy

If a man did this, he'd be laughed at and openly shamed for being weak. He'd be fucking crucified. But to these irrational, ditsy fuckin' broads this is a method of sexual empowerment? Bitches can kiss my black ass.

[–]420KUSHBUSH8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nothing like double standards, huh?

[–]yomo861 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well yes, and no. If a beta tried to pull it off you are right to a T. If Chad, still chiseled but broke, tries at the age of 40 to 'settle down' and be a good dad after banging crackheads, college sluts with std's and fats he would be applauded. SMV even only the animalistic kind shifts perception quite easily.

[–]Oz70NYC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Valid point. But most double standards don't apply to Chad. Chad is a standard all his own...which is why we all strive to achieve Chad status.

[–]redpillthrowaway11265 points66 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is bound to be a repeat of the "I married a slut who fucks like a prude" story, where a man married a post-wall woman who constantly withheld sex from him. The woman convinced him she simply wasn't a "sexual person" and therefore couldn't have passionate sex with her own damn husband. The husband later found old porn videos of her in college sucking off 20 guys and was devastated at the realisation that his wife is VERY sexual, just not with him.


[–]grewapair116 points117 points  (6 children) | Copy

I want to marry a woman who has proven she doesn't really like sex! #unclearontheconceptallaround

[–]1nonthaki32 points33 points  (5 children) | Copy

You are being downvoted . ... why the f*ck isnt anyone understanding your sarcasm ?

[–]2awalt_cupcake21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy

because this board if full of autists and internet literalists

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Except, you know, the 57 upvotes.

[–]2awalt_cupcake6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

only after we point it out

[–]top_zozzle42 points43 points  (2 children) | Copy

VERY relevant pic


[–]Oz70NYC2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That was me with my ex wife. I met her while she was riding the carousel. I just so happened to be the beta bitch she decided she wanted to siphon the soul out of. And I fucking fell for it 7 damn years. I will NOT make that mistake again. If...and that's a YUGE if...I do marry again, she's gonna be red pill as fuck. I won't settle for anything less.

[–]abc693 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't marry, bro. It's a contract where women are favoured

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy

An example of a woman's refusal to accept the responsibilities of her actions.

The rational behind abstaining from sex to fix the problem is very simple. But when you spell it out, the ridiculousness of it becomes readily apparent. Men are the problem, so not having sex with men until one comes along who isn't the problem will solve the problem. The End.

Except, how are you going to know when that man arrives?

The problem is women in this situation are totally fucked up. THEY are the problem. And their solution is to literally DO NOTHING. And as one can well expect, shit won't get fixed, and when everything crashes down, as it will, it's the poor beta's fault because it's men that are the problem.


[–]aanarchist5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

funny cuz they could solve the problem by treating the first man who treats them like a human being like a king and never letting go, but that's asking too much for them to actually do something.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's exactly like asking a straight man to get horny for a homosexual male who offers to take care of him in exchange for sex. It's a great offer, but goes completely against the wiring.

[–]aanarchist4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

that's a terrible analogy but i can see your point.

[–]seaguy8719 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy

TL;DR I am trying to sell my very used pussy at new pussy prices. Now which one of you betas would like to buy it with your life's commitment and resources?

[–]imn0tg00d5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

New pussy prices. I fucking died!

[–]seaguy872 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Perhaps you died, but at least you weren't sold used pussy at new pussy prices. I think dying would be preferable.

[–]grewapair40 points41 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly, this is just the type of manipulation that makes me sick to even be around women.

Basically, the women just want to fuck chad endlessly and don't want to fuck betas at all. Once they finally figure out that Chad is never going to support them endlessly, they decide to start looking for a nice beta bux to support them and their spawn. There's only one problem, they find betas repulsive and don't want to sleep with them.

So enter the "born again virgin" idea. Made merely as a manipulative excuse to not fuck any beta except the one who is responsible to support them endlessly, any beta who falls for it gets exactly what he deserves.

[–]abstractplebbit13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

That beta will barely even get fucked. He will be cucked shortly after

[–]menial_optimist17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

This article perfectly describes my friends marriage. She hit the hard party scene age 16 and didn't stop until 23.She then found jesus and became born again. Not long after she met my friend, and was "saving herself" for marriage. Fast forward and within two years he announced they were getting married because she wanted it, and that she deserved to be happy with no regard for his own (captain save-a-former-hoe). They would make out (clothes on) during the relationship and she would always say she wanted to fuck him so bad. She had him trained so well that the few times she offered her his body while drunk, he declined. Tired of his hand for 2 years with built up sexual energy he ultimately capitulated and married her. Within 8 months of the marriage she was pregnant.

He claims she didn't know anything when it came to sex and that he had to teach her everything. When I hear stories from others I know of her older days this is literally an impossibility. It means she is purposely giving him vanilla, lame sex just as TRP has always said happens when a previous CC rider settles down with beta.

Now that they have a 4 month old daughter, she has post-partum depression and has started smoking again, drinking lightly and occasionally going out with her girlfriends for a girls night at a local karoke bar. Due to the fact that post-marriage before the pregnancy she came on to myself and later in the same night one of our mutual friends (the husband friend still doesn't know), my gut feeling is that as the honeymoon phase of the marriage wears off and the stress taking care of the child increases she'll more than likely cheat on him within a few short years.

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feel bad for the guy because the poor bastard doesn't understand female nature. I see your friend and his situation sooooo much more as I get older.

The karaoke bar you mentioned is icing on the cake. There was one near i lived where this girl I knew goes by the nickname little bottom. Because she was some 33 year old petite women that would shake her ass everytime she sings a song. She constantly hit on me and I'm sure she did with other guys as well. One day I saw her at my gym and she introduced me to her fiance. I never seen this guy out at tnt bars before. Had no idea she was dating anyone. The guy has no idea what's he in for.

Another great example is when I was out with my ex and her best friend. The best friend was fat and in her mid thirties. She was telling my ex who was 28 at the time how she (the best friend) had her "ho phase" in her late 20s where she would sleep around with guys and not call them back. Bragging about it.

She is now with this fat beta guy because that's the best she can do. You see this shit play out in real life as you get older. Terrible but it is what it is.

[–]menial_optimist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I've told him about TRP before and he just rejects it instantly. He's fully plugged in and I know you can't force unplug anyone, but I tried. Its one of the most haunting situations, watching a good close friend tumble down a hole you know is more likely to lead him to darkness. It's hard to respect his choices, but he's his own man, and I shouldn't really care and focus on myself.

Little bottom, lol. This particular girl will always come back to the house and tell her husband & I about all the guys who hit on them/her. My guess is she's just trying to project an image that she's still desirable (despite getting fat post-marriage and then even fatter post-baby).

[–]SovereignSoul7626 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

"..That is not to shame anyone who is enjoying crazy casual hookups, or whatever else you may be into. They are just as awesome, if you’re enjoying yourself. That’s the beauty of being a modern day, we get to choose."

"We get to choose"...We get to choose to be a whore. We get to choose to pretend that being a slut is part of growing up, and that we are in fact proud of the dozens of dicks we took, as though it was a difficult feat. We get to choose to pretend as though we are taking a moral high ground later on, when in fact we are simply too used up to attract the high value men we used to. We get to choose to socially and professionally attack you, if you point out that we were a complete and total whore. We get to choose to mislead some poor sap for years, and let him think we are attracted to him, when in fact it is just the money and comfort he offers....We get to fucking choose.

[–]CanuckinFL10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

yep they get to choose. Pick a delusion and repeat it should be the modern feminist mantra. That'll make us all feel good about how real it might be, so long as Bill, Sara, Sara's neice Sharon blah blah and the 80 other members of their little world validate them. Nothing like 'objective' truth spat back at you when your desperation for acceptance screams for it. Then there's just time enough for a Facebook post or 6 -before driving to Starbux up the street for an iced vanilla latte. And don't fat shame them if they put on weight during the re-virginification.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

We get to choose...

Yeah, the ladies get to choose. But heaven forbid a guy try to choose or have standards... Oh no, that's misogyny...


[–]flashbang12322 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

10 bux Miranda Kerr has an open relationship with her billionaire fiancé, or is banging the studly pool boy. There must be more to this story. How can a billionaire be this stupid?!

[–]2Overkillengine12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just treat them with the same trust you would a meth head / coke fiend or alcoholic / etc drug abuser that decided to go clean.

You know damn well better than to leave them alone in a room with their drug of choice.

And anyone with a brain knows damn well better than to give them unfettered access to money and valuables with which they could obtain their drug of choice.

Because a ho and a junkie are not so different. They are addicted to putting things that are bad for them in their bodies, and there is always the danger of relapse. The addiction never really goes away.

They have the right to do that to themselves if they wish, but no one else is obligated to bear the consequences for them.

[–]gistaminute17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

I had a homie who's gf-turned-wife did this to him... and he produly went along with it and rushed the fuck into marriage (<6mo from meeting iirc). She cheated on him with a roommate within a couple of years. Never saw that one coming with the BP. She made side remarks to me about slutting it up in college but that being over...

[–]420KUSHBUSH1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is why I don't want to be in a relationship.

[–]Sinborn6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Words mean nothing when a woman's virtue is at stake!

[–]chambertlo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I now identify as a transvirgin. All my my past escapades have been erased.

[–]failingtheturingtest5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jo, 28, retail manager.

Jo is ugly. I don't know Jo, and there are no pictures in the article. But I know Jo.

One relationship and a few hookups. She hasn't given up on sex, sex has given up on her.

[–]bobjoe17713 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol no one will wait that shit out for a 30 year old. They probably won't even try to hit it because the stench of desperation will trail those post wall vampires like a virus.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never underestimate the legions of thirsty men.

Now they'll never find a high quality dude who gives them the tingles and is willing to commit.

But they wouldn't do this shit if it didn't work.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can take someone that drinks 5 days a week, I can take someone that's never drank; but the person who's relationship with alcohol is so unhealthy that they gave it up? I can't expect them to be able to resume drinking safely.

[–]2comment6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The article is worthless, but it's a good example of the utter cluelessness of the female hamster.

Women know what they're doing (kinda), the clueless are the guys eating this shit up and manning up, according to society, to marry the sluts.

It's kinda like barfing up a steak and selling it as prime homemade beef stew. The suckers are the people eating it up.

[–]ilikeurboobies4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was stupid (and pathetic) enough to marry one. Guess what - a woman who doesn't care much for sex is a woman who doesn't care much for sex after marriage either. We had two kids, I got a vasectomy, and she lost all interest in my penis.

[–]big_foam_shocker4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once you're a pickle, you'll never be a cucumber again.

[–]soundslikebliss5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd be less bothered if they didn't call it "virginity born again" or whatever the fuck, but rather "calming the fuck down with your holes" or something along those lines. Not that it changes anything, but you're not a fucking virgin.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This story reminds me of my first oneitis that nearly killed me. She too was a whore who with the help of a local church deciced that by holding herself for marriage she would be virgin and pure again. Being a beta back then i believed in all of that shit. Meanwhile the virgin whore was still getting smashed by alphas.

Looking back now as i am spinning plates from from any oneitis, i really wish i had this prespective 10 years ago.

[–]1ozaku77 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

One can consider this as a self-protection against relationships that are based on sex, rather than on commitment and long-term. On the other hand, she just wants to justify her slutty past by making up for it by not getting laid. History is still a fact, once a slut, always a slut. The only thing that is good for her is that she will fool this other guy that she's a prude and "saving the best for last" bullshit.

What's worse, his dick won't ever get ridden as good as it has been ridden before. Her focus will be on commitment, and not sex anymore, because she will hamster away that by having too much sex, will make the relationship sex focussed and you can only expect once a week or once a month sex from this woman. Which is utterly useless.

This is your typical adult Disney fairytail, where she finally finds that prince that treats her right and she fucks like a prude.

[–]1nonthaki4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

ohh yeah , she wouldnt have chosen this f*king Beta prude if she could have gotten a sexlord Alpha to commit to her in the first place .

[–]aanarchist1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

dudes should adopt a similar af bb strategy. find a nice born again virgin to date and cuddle with and have her cook you nice meals and all that cute shit she was supposed to do for you in high school, and go find other women to actually have passionate sexual relationships with. if your game is good go game some cuties, if your game is bad go buy some prostitutes.

[–]SisyphosOnTop3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This shit was painful to read..

[–]ProfessorZoom points points [recovered] | Copy

I wouldn't say that all of the men who ran up through Jo were high quality. They were probably your typical douchebags, not even anyone of any real quality, that women throw themselves at time and time again. They most likely throughly played out any man that really was worth shit. Now they're used up and come to the conclusion that they need to change their ways.

[–]Subtletorious-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're white knighting hard. You know nothing of the men who "ran through Jo".

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Virginity! Try it, it's new and improved!


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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Epiphany phase "virgins" LOL! Massive Red Flag

[–]textualintercourse2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"more than a handful of hookups since."

This sentence, though minimizing the 278 dicks she's had penetrate her vagina, is technically more than a handful and therefore factually accurate.

[–]beginner_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

About a pretty long time ago there was this locally famous pop-group that was very sexual. Then the female lead singer quit and decided to become religious. There was a short documentation about her on TV how she found good, is a reborn virgin and now waiting with her new boyfriend till the get married to have sex again. I was pretty young at the time but it was clear the boyfriend was a complete loser and she is full of shit. She then went on to moderate a religious TV show for years. Oh and she was 31 when they married so about 29-30 when that reorientation happened...

Only surprising thing is she is still with her husband and the 2 kids.

[–]RedBikerMouse2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Celebrities who marry to merge their fortunes like Kerr, declare abstinence over something they weren't even interested to have with their significant wallet, and somehow that made a movement.

For a moment I was HOPING this was the onion.

[–]ingenjor1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I've been seeing this girl without agreeing to commit and she just told me "no more sex" and that "I'm using her body", even though she initiates sex 90% of the time. Was bound to happen sooner or later, I guess.

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

She is using sex as a weapon. Don't be fazed, tell her that if she kills your sexual relationship, she kills the entire relationship and you will jump between the legs of another woman if she doesn't allow you to jump between hers.

[–]Merwebb2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dont say nothing. Just walk away

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's what an angry woman would do.

[–]Merwebb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You would be pretty much negotiating sex at that point.

[–]ingenjor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Although there's no official relationship. I was clear that we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend. Not that I've met other women anyway lately, but it's nice to have the freedom. Time to start meeting new ones, I guess.

[–]drivinward1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Conclusion: people should have sex with whoever they want until they find someone to stay with, also for the quality of sex.

[–]ecosci1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post this has happenend to 70pct. of married men in the country its called alpha fux/beta bux a very common theme and they never virgin up for the alpha badboys even when their married.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's not saving herself for marriage, she's saving herself for Chad when the whole thing inevitably breaks down.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

See Rollo's post on the epiphany posted recently

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lol the whole thing reads like a satire, but its not. amazing.

and literally a suggested article on that page is about GW sub and how positive and stuffs it is. can't make this shit up.

[–]manuchi10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your closing paragraph was legendary dude...

[–]quicklogaccount0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I love this.

"I made a few disastrous choices in partners and relationships by trying to fulfill my need of support, belonging and intimacy with sex. SEX IS DIRTY AND SEX IS TO BLAME. I WILL DETOX MYSELF OUT OF SEX."

Man, I admire feminism, it went a long way this far on helping women knowing themselves. But when I see shit like that I fucking cringe.

And the worst of all is, IT WILL WORK. They will find a beta dude that offers comfort and intimacy in expectation of future sex. One step further these women will associate comfort and intimacy with the absence of sex and the beta dude will be just so screwed...

[–]Merwebb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cant believe this shit is real. Latin America would be their last frontier, you dont hear or read this shit in the mainstream. Yet.

[–]newName5434560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is what in economics is called "artificial scarcity". Resource (sex) isn't really scarce per se, but you limit its supply in order to drive price up (put a ring on it). That's what De Beers cartel was doing in diamond industry, though artificial diamonds are threatening that modus operandi.

Hence it's important to have abundance mentality and not limit yourself to such limited sources.

[–]pahoodie points points [recovered] | Copy

How is 28 worn out? That seems young to me.

[–]Tamarin2415 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Considering woman can find easy sex from age 18 (even before), I would say 10 years of sex is pretty worn out.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not the years, it's the mileage.


[–]TriggeringEveryone[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being married to a 28 year old is OK, it's understood that if you marry, eventually your wife will turn 28, and 38 if she doesn't walk out on the marriage, and 88 if you both live long enough.

The problem is starting out at 28 -- she's given away her best 10+ years to other men.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The wall fills the entire windshield...

[–]vwzwv2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It would be ok if time didn't instantly move forward

[–]takkun22-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol you snowflakes are triggered easily

who gives a shit