Relationships lost the feels and magic for me after taking the RP. It's like Santa died and you see Christmas for what it really is.

Adi2208 · 2017-05-28T15:33:02+00:00

I strongly resonate with what you are feeling. The illusion we had was completely at disconnet with reality but equally beautiful.

ARUKET · 2017-05-28T18:45:38+00:00

This is common in the beginning. When I first discovered RP over two years ago I broke up with my gf of almost 3 years within a month. But eventually, you may realize relationships are still very much doable. I very often see guys complain about how girls are no longer feminine, and how modern dating culture is extremely degenerate, and yet every post is all about how many girls I'm fucking bro heh smashing all these hb10s bro and I don't even give a fuck bro just fuck bitches and lift heh. You are contributing to the degeneracy - how do you expect traditional gender roles to resurface? You are taking RP knowledge and using it for hedonistic pursuits of pleasure and nothing else.

There is a balance to be found. You can enter relationships with women without being a total cuck. You will find that women often take the lead of a strong man. I've had two long term gfs since discovering TRP and they both ditched the whole independent career womyn shtick they convinced themselves into believing, very quickly. My current gf has taken an interest in cooking, wearing dresses/skirts almost exclusively, etc. just becoming a very feminine woman moreso than she was. This is because she looks up to me and I hold her to a certain standard.

I'm not saying it will be like a Disney movie, but you can make the return to traditional gender roles in your own life if you put in some effort. Not everyone here is content with just spinning plates until they die alone. Some of us want to restore civilization.

yomalolo · 2017-05-28T15:44:10+00:00

If you can make Christmas beautiful without believing in Santa I postulate you can make relationships beautiful without believing in Hollywood romance.

ozaku7 · 2017-05-28T17:40:52+00:00

It passes.

I don't enjoy my dogs any less because they love whomever feeds them

vengefully_yours · 2017-05-28T16:14:26+00:00

You want the Disney™ love story? Fall in love live happily ever after? Yeah about that, probably not gonna happen.

I old, been through the grinder of life. I'm not bitter, despite the harpy old fat chicks screeching it at me. What I am is not delusional about life, and especially girls. Girls don't make me happy. I make me happy. Giving girls is fun, something I need to do to stay sane to be honest, but in no way does the girl I fuck reflect on my value, capability, knowledge, or skills. (Outsideof game skills) They're a plaything, fun for somethings, not applicable for others.

My life is so much more than the sum total of girls I've fucked. No matter how hot they were 20 years ago, they're not now. The 20 year olds I've been giving will look like shit in another 20 years. What I've done and achieved far exceeds girls, and that my friend is where the magic of life, the great satisfaction of being resides. In what I've accomplished, seen, experienced, and achieved. Fucking a girl is not an achievement. It's a pastime, hobby, something to do when bored.

Pussy should not be the motivating factor in your life, money is nearly as superficial as girls. You're damn right both are fun to have in abundance, and a lack of them sucks, but there is so much you can do with neither of them. Frontier get to where money isn't an issue and you're no longer trading hours for dollars, but do it to get the freedom to do what you like to do, not just to have lots of money. Money goes away, girls come and go your entire life, what you do, what you remember, that stays with you for life. Make your life the focus, and everything else is how you get what you want from the short time you get here.

Scandinavianredpill · 2017-05-28T15:15:54+00:00

Yeah you have to apply dread regularly without going overboard. If you go overboard you damage your relationsship and the trust - if you apply low key dread it gives her an emotional wave. You have to realize most women are thrill seeking in nature - they don't have innate ambitions like us so they are a slave to emotions. If you can make her ride a wave of emotions you will be a drug she wants to keep taking.

hobo_teacher · 2017-05-28T19:54:00+00:00

I'm there with you bud. I was with a girl, literally perfect in her behavior towards me. Treated me like a god. Argued well, when we mostly just talked about my leaving town in the future and what we'd do. All the things you want in a relationship.

And she was beautiful.

Beyond TRP for whatever reason I was never that attracted to her. But in terms of RP, I never got the tingles for her like she did for me. I always felt a bit bad, but I'm sure my aloofness is part of what attracted her to me.

I even let myself go a little BP, which I think you have to do in an LTR to some degree (providing comfort). But like you said I never did jump in with both feet 'in love,' I just tried to enjoy the time we had together like the holiday that it was.

In Disney terms, she was perfect I should have married her. But I couldn't take my mind off the fact that if she had a change of heart she'd walk away with half. I just couldn't take that risk. I couldn't settle for a pussy that my balls told me was mediocre. For life.

Ultimately, like you said, I can just find my fix elsewhere. No risk. There are plenty more of her out there, though her type isn't easy to find.

grewapair · 2017-05-28T20:04:48+00:00

The next stage of your realization is that relationships still take the same amount of investment on your part as they always did, it's just now you realize you aren't even getting ten percent of what you thought you were.

If you're very handsome, the amount of effort it takes to sustain a relationship with a woman who is using you for your looks is very low, so it's still worth it, but just barely.

If you are not very handsome, I mean 8+ handsome, the effort it takes to sustain a relationship is herculean, for almost no benefit, other than the fake benefits you imagined, but weren't there. Now add in the risks of child support, herpes, false rape, divorce rape if you are stupid enough to get married, and you can see that the effort just isn't worth the costs and risks. Once you wake up, as a lower 80 percentile man, this whole thing is a colossal waste of energy, money and time, as you will literally never come out ahead.

Yes, if you're a 6'2 skinny white guy with a bad haircut, you can jump from a 4 to an 8 or 9. The number of guys like that who come on here and tell us how easy it was is laughable because they think everyone else can jump that far with a little effort like they did. But if you're 5'8", unless you're exceptional, if you put in a ton of effort, the best you can hope for is to go from being ignored to being used, with the occasional drunken lay here and there. After a while, it gets old.

Ocupheus · 2017-05-28T19:50:57+00:00

That third guy's wife now only hates you because you can see through her. The RP opens your eyes up.

Skayruss · 2017-05-28T18:29:59+00:00

Nothing really has changed because the "feels and magic" that you have "lost" never exisited anyway. It was all in your head and you created those feelings by yourself for yourself.

Now you are free to love women as they actually are and in the masculine way you were meant.

Women want and need to submit to an authority and you can love them like adopted daughters without needing them for something they cant provide and you actually dont need

ShakaLeonidas · 2017-05-28T19:28:53+00:00

DABDA D- Denial A- Anger B- Bargaining D- Depression A- Acceptance

DABDA is the greif-realization cycle of Death. Swallowing TRP is a tough pill to swallow. You are essentially killing your Blue Pill perspective of the world and female nature. People internalize and cope at different speeds and the impact varies from person to person. You can (and will) relapse into different phases. You will discover different things about yourself and all of it won't be good. Alot of it will be confusing and you will see that its layers upon layers to sort out. That's why its called "falling down the rabitt hole."

Im Dark Triad, Alpha, a veteran, hardened by life, all that stuff and guess what? TRP STILL fucked me up for 2 and a half years. Why? Because I know its true. I knew it was the truth before i knew what it was. The glitches in the matrix just kept happening. I wasnt just unplugged, i was ejected from the matrix. The nihilism and cynicism most experience during the A-B-D-A is what leads to SUICIDE, serious mental and physical health problems. Aswell as what the world labels "toxic" masculinity". Thankfully there's a growing community of unplugged men that can assist in the transition. Provide you with tools and experience to help you find YOUR path. I don't know how long You've been unplugged but things get a little easier. Not alot but a little. The melancholy jade with female relationships your experiencing is you making your self your mental point of origin and realizing that even with redpill skills and awareness, you can't accomplish the bluepill idealistic dream.

"Cipher" in The Matrix movie wanted back into the "matrix" But under his own conditions with his mind wiped of all knowledge of his current life.

(Purple pills, The "Family" Alphas, "my SMV is all i need" masters of the universe etc. ALL try to validate their interactions and responses from females in the sexual marketplace with psuedo-pill currency. Instead of it being simply the survival transaction that it actually is. Be the relationship quid-pro-quo, investment based or highly manipulative)

He knew that he could manipulate the matrix to an extent by simply plugging in with the rest of the hackers(PUA) and utilizing his awareness of programming. Only thing is he didn't want to continually struggle with the fact that he was "Aware" of his actual existence in the world and what the matrix really was. He even knew the steak he was eating while talking to agent smith, was not real. "I know this steak [...] is just a signal the matrix is sending to my brain... after 9 years you know what the matrix has taught me? Ignorance is bliss." Cipher never re-intergrated back into the matrix under his conditions and ignorant. Ignorance or it's desire for it leads to exploitation and or untimely death. Just like what occured with Cipher.

I say all this to say dont get trapped in the hedonistic nature to seek gratification or validation in females. They are capricious and fickle. They just are. There's a sliding scale as to how much each woman can exercise her exploitave abilities over men in a romantic context, but they all can and will do it. The relationship is always symbiotic and parasitic. Some parodies kill people and some keep the host alive. It's a damned if you do, damned if ya don't you're of thing.

thisisathrowaway6001 · 2017-05-28T15:34:10+00:00

So I'm taking a shit at the gym so I'm going to have to keep this short. If you were in a bad relationship before, it would make sense that the Red Pill would "ruin" your existing relationship. This is mostly because you're not living as your greatest self if the red pill has the ability to radically change your existing world view.

That being said, love and emotions are still a very real thing. Though men don't seem to be as actively aware of them as a woman is, you can still find yourself enthralled by the presence of a woman that brings out the lover in you.

The magic is still there friend. Just keep yourself open to it. You can still "fall in love" without sacrificing your masculinity. You can still marry with a prenup and still have a real marriage - that is on the condition that you want to marry of course.

There is a lot of practical wisdom here though it doesn't always take into account that men have feelings. If you would like to reassociate yourself with some of the most powerful feelings of being a a man, I would recommend reading The Way of the Superior Man, and the Alabaster Girl. There are great lessons here that can help relieve some of the "gray-ness" that can accompany swallowing the pill.

NibblyPig · 2017-05-28T19:01:55+00:00

Me before TRP:

there is no feeling more wonderful than coming inside the girl I love

Me after TRP:

I will never again trust a woman enough to come inside her

iamtheswoop · 2017-05-28T16:18:57+00:00

When I deconverted from my primary Religion and became an Atheist I went through the exact same thing as far as my core beliefs we're concerned. A whole year of looking at the world as if everyone we're literally crazy, it was very disheartening and depressing....As I get into TRP now it doesn't shock me at all and I'm able to get into the mindset fairly easy since I've already experienced a mental shock to my system. The good news is after living in your new mindset for a while you begin to see life in a whole new way and the most wonderful and beautiful aspects of life start staring right back and you'll find a new level of happiness you never even knew existed. So hold on, stay the course and things will get awesome.

SheriffBart42 · 2017-05-29T01:41:24+00:00

Relationships are a lie as you see. You fuck women for one of two purposes, pleasure and reproduction.

Now that you know the magic is BS you can find a woman who is mother material. The only important quality. Or just bang sluts, whatever. You're free, enjoy.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-05-28T15:53:54+00:00

The Blue Pill mythology has done serious damage to women as well as men.

Just as beta males lack knowledge of masculinity the Feminist culture damages women and destroys their feminine polarity from within.

The Blue Pill mythology destroys both masculinity and femininity.

The trick will be to either find or "develop" a woman into something more feminine. I know... impossible.

Some guys talk of going to Eastern Europe to find the last refuge of feminine women, but that's extreme for most of us.

If both masculinity and femininity is in place then attraction would be sufficient for both.

industrythrowaway_ · 2017-05-28T18:54:17+00:00

Here's what I see is wrong with what you wrote. For a brief second you started to give women individuality and agency, and then you fell right back in the trap of assuming that they are some sort of monolithic group. You have such an adversarial in versus out group mentality that you aren't even trying to deal with people as individuals like yourself. The things you wrote make me think that you are in a very toxic / solipsistic space where you think you are the only thinking / feeling individual in these interactions.

You need to get out of that because it makes you sound beta as fuck. You know why I say that?

You seem to think that fucking a girl is the final proof that you are doing this interaction right, but the fact you aren't getting anything out of it, and these girls are moving on to other people from you, means that you aren't bringing anything else to the table. Yes, women want things. Men want things too. When you are big enough and have enough going on in your own live to make you happy you can approach interactions with women as though you are equals and find that you both get something out of the relationship.

But your whining about girls wanting guys with money and status makes me think you have none and you want everyone to just be OK with that and accept you for the mediocre catch that you are. Fuck that. Improve yourself. Improve your status. Find what makes you happy. Find what you need in a relationship, and then go out and treat women like they are individuals who are also searching, also making this whole thing up as they go along and find someone who makes you want to be a better you.

Most of all stop whining. Stop assuming that you deserve something because you have a dick. You deserve nothing. You are owed nothing. You have to fucking earn everything that you get in this world. Stop being a fucking pussy and be a better human.

JohnGalt316 · 2017-05-28T16:45:19+00:00

christmas is still great even when you realize santa isn't real

Dhraseon · 2017-05-28T16:50:30+00:00

So then my question is this: if you aknowledge that RP is the source of the misery then why not find the next step? Why not find a better point of view on life and shed the skin of your ignorant past? Relationships are only bomb if you make them bomb. You only get the feels if you let yourself get the feels. Not everyone gets married, and has kids. Additionally, why not take a note from the women and raise your standard? Not in any superficial way such as with social status, monetary value, but with how she personally connects with you. Life is only as good as you make it.

Cunt_Robber · 2017-05-28T19:24:30+00:00

And another one successfully swallows and digests! Good for you OP. Your narrative does however, seem tinged with sadness at the reality. I dont even get sad about it anymore, Ive accepted it and moved on to find that "hellova drug" in other things. Women are just there. I'll still get a little sweaty when I'm flirting with a good-looking woman but the fact that I regularly interact with a couple HB7-9s at work has desensitized me even more.

If they were to only provide more value than they do, then I'd probably be able to get excited again. But at this point it's like I'm leasing used cars over and over and theyre all Hondas and Fords. Not even a fucking BMW. Everyone attractive has a high N count. Solid post.

kasper138 · 2017-05-28T22:35:07+00:00

Halloween is better than Christmas anyway.

theredpill22 · 2017-05-28T22:35:19+00:00

Everything in this life is impermanent.

You can still love, and feel loved. But you will know that these things can not and will not last.

This extends into every aspect of life. Enjoy whatever you have while it lasts, because nothing in this life lasts forever.

scamper_22 · 2017-05-29T04:27:20+00:00

I hear that. It really is soul crushing.

My sympathy for cheaters and other 'deviants' has gone through the roof. One of my wife's cousins is getting divorced. She is bipolar. Apparently the dad used to hit her in front of the kids. They're conservative Muslims.

Anyways, my wife mentioned this to her mother. Her mother is very traditional and said it always takes two to fight and your generation is weak. To my wife, him beating her in front of the kids was the line.

I had the opposite experience. My dad never hit my mother. But they also never really fought. The house become a deadzone. As far as screwing kids up, it screwed us up to have a father who was beaten into submissive silence.

I told my wife... you know... beating up your wife in front of kids can screw them up. But so can just turning the home into a deadzone.

That's just how I see it now. Cheating? Same thing. What do woman get out of marriage (from an Indian context). The girls tend to lie a lot. They get to keep their reputations. They get their family and community. The guys are workhorses. So hey, if they keep it quiet and keep her reputation in check, cheating isn't that bad.

Again... part of the new understanding.

It's messed up but everything is just transnational.

What I find messed up is I could lived a perfectly happy BP life. Just situations came up and all that mythology got crushed. I'm glad it did because Im a better person today. But that Santa clause dream was so close for me :P

Pro_Like_Me · 2017-05-28T18:37:19+00:00

This is also why you shouldn't force someone to break their illusions about women, relationships, dating, seduction, etc. This is the reason you shouldn't go around trying to force-feed people red pills. The analogy holds true, and some people will have many years of happiness without the red pill. Many people will get married, start families, and have healthy relationships without the red pill. But some of us just don't have the same luck, and we look for a deeper understanding of why women act the way they do. Once we start to understand, and realize that AWALT, it is very emotionally jarring. It is tough to work through it. But the red pill is about seeing the world as it actually is rather than how you would have hoped it would be.

redman128 · 2017-05-28T19:10:13+00:00

No TL;DR, but considering the title, you should celebrate that RP finally takes effect on you.

Satou4 · 2017-05-28T20:33:07+00:00

And women thought like this all along.

I'm still a bit uncanny valley, I'm still trying to go monk mode so I can have enough value. I thought I knew everything you were going to say. This part hit me hard.

swaglordobama · 2017-05-28T22:09:12+00:00

You don't enter a relationship just for sex... you don't need to be in a relationship to have sex with a girl. You will have more sex outside of a relationship.

Furthermore, you can have relationships that are more open, so you can both fuck other people, have orgies, etc.

If you meet a girl who you really enjoy spending time with, who you have great chemistry with, why wouldn't you want a relationship with her? You will learn a lot and grow from the relationship, even if it is short lived due to your deep seeded hatred of women and scarcity mentality.

Vulnerability will cause you to expand and grow much faster than any "self-improvement" you make in the grips of the ego. Stoicism is a joke.

OhZee · 2017-05-29T00:23:17+00:00

For me it's a lack of what used to feel like a total connection. I feel there's always a reserved part of myself that no one else gets. Affords me a unique position in all negotiations and exchanges with the opposite sex.

grandaddychimp · 2017-05-29T03:45:03+00:00

Relationships are beautiful once again after you fully digest the pill. You will recognize them and women for what they really are and have a much more realistic viewpoint. You'll also get way more out of them because she will worship the ground you walk on if you play your cards properly.

zephyrprime · 2017-05-29T04:06:08+00:00

"Women operate on their feelings, but they don't look for feelings from you, just values." Yeah it's really weird. This is one of the basic paradoxes. Since women operate out of feelings, why don't they value the feelings of men? They actually do - sort of. They value your good feelings. When you're feeling happy, when you're feeling confident, or even when you're feeling curious or adventurous - they appreciate these feelings from you. They are repulsed by any show of weak feelings from you though. Are they basically just evil creatures that don't care about the negative feelings of others and only care about your feelings when it benefits themselves?

HangingSalami · 2017-05-29T04:12:44+00:00

There is a piece of the puzzle that RP and your way of thinking misses...imho. I've been trying to put my finger on it and I'm not quite clear...but here is my best try: Approaching and bedding women is not going to create meaning in your life. Being abused in a beta LTR is not going to give you meaning either. Meaning, challenge, significance, "happiness" are very complex challenges. A women, children, career, passion are all still possible I believe with full knowledge of RP. Not easy...but not impossible. Good Luck bro. RP principles are tools, not an over-arching philosophy to your entire life...lol

Gelcoluir · 2017-05-28T15:56:16+00:00

If you can't enjoy a Christmas dining among your family, you might question yourself if you really took the pill.

BargainBinBoyfriend · 2017-05-28T15:56:25+00:00

It's only been a few months for me, also, and I'm still in a daze. For me, it's a similar feeling to when I accepted atheism. Lost and adrift. I have to believe that we can find meaning elsewhere. Philosophy and new experiences have helped a lot. And gazing into the eyes of a beautiful new woman is still pretty great, too.

AlfredTheGreatest · 2017-05-28T17:46:37+00:00

Dude, relax a bit. These things have been true for all of time and will continue to be so. Love is still a real thing. Just keep your eyes open and avoid the pitfalls of betadom. RP knowledge is a tool. Use it.

Danzzo36 · 2017-05-28T19:16:29+00:00

It's funny because it's so true. We weren't meant to be monogamous creatures. We were meant to go out and fuck every woman we could in hopes of spreading our genes.

whatwasthatcat · 2017-05-29T02:57:01+00:00

I won't lie. I am bitter that I am redpilled and won't be able to feel love. So I try to make others swallow the redpill so they can feel my pain. Everyone here should be doing the same thing.

Of course love doesn't exist. Women only choose males based on his physical attraction, social status, or wealth. None of those are compatible with "love." "Love" is a noble, magical, positive, kind-hearted, unconditional feeling. Yet the above mentioned factors that dictate how women choose guys are about vile selfishness, lust, manipulation, and greed, none of which are consistent with "love." Some claim that love develops "after" the "partner selection" process. Well, what value would it have then? If you are choosing based on those vile, superficial factors, and then "love" someone after that, what value is there to that "love?" I mean, any 2 people spending time together in an intimate manner will be likely to interact in a manner which could be interpreted as "love," I mean if you are living in the same house, going for dates, etc.. you are eventually going to hold hands and get close and intimate, you are not going to start punching each other in the nose...so what value does "love" have if this is the reality?

Male bluepill is when they don't realize that women don't love them. Female bluepill is when the female falls in "love" with Chad after choosing him for his body. Yea, that's not love, that's just chemicals released, and when women have sex with a guy, there are chemicals released that make her more attached. This does not equate to "love" as we know it. It was completely derived from lust, and is a lower order evolutionary reaction. Therefore, it cannot be love.

When I see couples kissing or holding hands, it is a bittersweet moment: on one hand I am bitter that they are so bluepilled to be able to enjoy that moment, but on the other hand I feel sorry for them for being backwards, unaware idiots. As Socrates said, "the unexamined life is not worth living."

fruitynoodles · 2017-05-28T16:54:10+00:00

lol you sound like a fun guy

MisterDorimant · 2017-05-28T21:19:53+00:00

Just wait until You realize there is no god.

[deleted] · 2017-05-28T20:50:10+00:00

Good job keeping it short.

Since coming to terms with reality there is a cycle.

Smash on Tinder for a few months, then get bored and lose myself in work for a few months.

Then the cycle repeats.

mesershmit · 2017-05-28T23:49:42+00:00

I agree with you competely and i have to say thank and fuck you RP for both opening my eyes and harnessing a harsh truth into my brain.I,like you,dont see relationships like before.

S-Blaze · 2017-05-28T23:53:27+00:00

I have this theory about sex and LTRs. We keep greater power by having sex but not cumming all the time. This is how we stay ''aggressive'' and full of energy and drive instead of ''empty'' or mellow. Harnessing our sexual energy is how to stay at the top our game and attractive. And then once in awhile cum and bound softer. I bet this is good for a strong LTR

And so true that women look for values instead of feelings but that's alright to me a man has to provide security and ideally social value too and fun because we're the driver.

plascra · 2017-05-29T00:11:25+00:00

Everything.. everything in this world is mercantile in interaction..

atlantique16 · 2017-05-29T00:47:25+00:00

What are some of the many truths of TRP that made you turn away?

Spaaceshiip · 2017-05-29T02:04:04+00:00

I want to read more into RP but I can't find a page with quality content. Not trying to boast but I do well with girls and I'd like to increase that. If anyone can help I would be greatly appreciative

Protein_Devotee · 2017-05-29T02:10:10+00:00

Have you read The Rational Male Preventative Medicine? I highly recommend it if you are feeling this way.

pn_me_your_dick · 2017-05-29T08:50:42+00:00

love are chemical reaction in our brain so you wont be able to avoid it no matter how much you know cya

ConsumingImpulse · 2017-05-29T11:51:16+00:00

It's like Nihilism. The realization that nothing ultimately means anything, while initially disturbing for sure, is ultimately comforting and empowering. It allows you to give your own meaning to your life. You just have to be careful not to fall into the pit of nothingness that happens when you let nihilistic feelings consume you, like myself pre-trp. You got the touch!

Alpha_Jedi · 2017-05-29T12:12:34+00:00

That's a very fascinating post and very thought-provoking read. I had a similar thought a few weeks ago and did a full article about it: https://alphajedi.com/2017/05/05/street-walkers-gold/

To sum it us, it seems that everyone’s a prostitute, but there’s only 2 variables in the equation: 1) What is their preferred currency & 2) How much? With an RP set of eyes seeing the mechanisms behind this metaphor shows the world for what t is. The real questions is what do we do about it, and I think the tried and true answer of focus on maximizing yourself and learning to take joy in life(the good with the bad) is the best way to go. One danger of the Red Pill is it can cause reality depression, but it's essential to remember that life can be a very beautiful experience.

1i1ak · 2017-05-29T12:49:38+00:00

Men are not made to seek love from people. We are made to love ideals, higher goals, achievement.

Turn your heart to great goals and you will be infinitely more fulfilled than the cuck that "loves" his CC rider wife.

TheRealMewt · 2017-05-29T13:01:05+00:00

When you stopped believing in Santa Claus, did you stop enjoying Christmas?

Just because you see women and relationships for what they are doesn't necessarily mean it's impossible to enjoy either of the two. You just look for those other ways to have fun with it all. Sure, I miss Santa but days off and free shit are nice too. Feel me?

mattislike · 2017-05-29T18:46:14+00:00

This reads like the direction I'm currently heading down myself.

Five years ago, I was convinced I'd live a happy life as a married man with two kids, working to support and take care of us all. Now? Both are the furthest things away from my mind. The ideation continues to creep up occasionally, but with everything I've learned within the last year and a half, it's something I laugh at as I continue to work on myself.

MentORPHEUS · 2017-05-29T20:06:35+00:00

First you believe
Then you don't believe
Then you become...

Santa Claus.

Now switch "Chaddington" for "Santa Claus" and you'll be fine.

Expectations1 · 2017-05-30T12:00:34+00:00

I am in this phase too, its like ive opened my eyes to what women are...but its like in the matrix quite literally.

Neo : I can't go back, can I? Morpheus : No, but if you could, would you really want to? Neo isn't sure, so decides not to say anything.

The only way to solve it is to take massive action, and enjoy it for what it all is, a fleeting moment.

[deleted] · 2017-05-31T16:17:01+00:00

How old are you man? Quit being so melodramatic.

mochimeido · 2017-05-31T21:21:52+00:00

I definitely understand what you mean. Seeing the red pill, and realizing what men think of women has really killed any hope of pursuing a relationship. The idea of building a relationship with someone who believes me to be subhuman is pretty nightmarish, I would feel like a man trapped with a radical feminist. Voluntary celibacy is my only option, but I am not too bothered by it.

[deleted] · 2017-06-03T06:15:06+00:00

This is the epitome of the red pill.

Thanks for writing this up.

mxethrowaway75 · 2017-05-28T22:01:56+00:00

What you're saying is true only if you're looking at it from a primal perspective. We're animals; the males want to plant their seed in one female and then onto the next, while woman desire the "top dog" of the pack.

But love transcends this. It's what makes relationships more than just "agreements". When both partners acknowledge and accept the primal tendencies within them and work to keep them at bay, that is the truest and most honest kind of love. Without that, you're just playing the game of animals. And that is what RP is, manipulating the rules of the game.

Love surpasses the bounds of our intellectual understanding. It's that subtle gleam in the eyes of your partner that you see when you close your eyes and think of them. It's sticking through every conflict until you both come to a mutual understanding. It's being on the same page at all times.

Your perspective is a gloomy one and will only isolate your further from others. If you're content with these "agreements", power to you. But you speak as if you wish there was something more to it. And there is. You will have to see for yourself. Your thoughts are not who you are, they serve only to keep the inner monologue going and keep you feeling separate, which is the root of every failed relationship.

Hope this helps stranger.

LenguaNegra · 2017-05-28T18:02:17+00:00

The worst part is that I see relationships where both parties involved are happy and it works without the guy being a typical RP bad boy with muscles, tattoos and a fashion style that has been clearly influenced by Reddit.

I know there are unicorns out there, but all of them seem to be taken.

anotherjunkie · 2017-05-29T00:27:33+00:00

I'm really sorry man. It sounds like your life fucking sucks.

Real, actual, compassionate love is out there. A large number of people have found it; I've found it. But if you go into a relationship viewing it as transactional -- and I mean in any way -- you never will.

You have to want to give everything freely. Yeah, I got my heart fucking shattered once, but I grew up and moved on and found my person. I'd give her anything she asked for, and she does the same for me without a second thought.

You need to ditch your over-tensioned sex drive and consider spending some time with women when you're not trying to fuck them.