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Who else here talks/texts/messages with a variety of women (not just the hot ones) to improve your game/speaking skills?

The idea being that by communicating with as many women as possible, your skills get better?

For example, myself, I've come up with some GREAT lines that I tried first on not-so-hot looking girls, and if they worked, I re-used them on the hotter girls, to maximum effect.


[–]chachaChad36 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly the thing to do but I find that I just can't not go below a certain threshold (< HB5) because they just disgust me.

I've been working on myself and can say that for a certain older, fatter group of women, I am absolutely fucking man candy. Some how women over 200lbs are fucking automatically attracted to me like flies. I can literally see the gravitational pull happening in their eyes.

The other night I was walking down and aisle at the grocery store and this women pushing a cart the other way, took one look at me, got all red and flushed turn her cart the other way, thought about it, then turned her cart back towards me, smiled and blushed then walked the down the aisle towards me never taking her eyes off me. When she had passed me, I looked behind me and she was looking my ass with wide, thirsty eyes. I'm not making that up and not exaggerating. Of course, I couldn't approach her because she was so fat that I felt absolute revulsion about being anywhere near her. Even if I forced myself, I know my penis would have refused to function as a self preservation mechanism.

Also, opening lines are great but they are a crutch. At some point, I got beyond opening lines and it works so much better. Remember, that girl you're using a line on has heard that line or some variation since she was 11. Once you use a line, you're automatically grouped in with every unattractive, slimy fucker that has tried to manipulate her into being used like a rag doll.

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[–]chachaChad3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 6' tall, 165lbs pounds and have some newbie gains from lifting for 2 months. I used to be 207lbs but dropped the weight from running so I'm slim but skinny fat with 16% bodyfat with no hint of abs.

I'm baldish so I keep that short and I have a small, well trimmed beard that I grew to define my jaw and it helped (helps) keep any acne away. I grew it at 24 when I was a total pizza face and my acne just stopped so I've kept it ever since.

[–]4TBhdd[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the good reply. Yea a very small number of these women are a bit on the fattie side, but they LOVE talking/texting with me. They just wanna go on and on. I get plenty of practice with them.

opening lines are great but they are a crutch

Actually those weren't opening lines that I meant. These are more like in-between lines like when asking for a phone number, I have this one go-to ending line that really works well.... and I originally made it up while texting a HB5 or so.

[–]rangamatchstick10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Game is game, plus it will put up your value in general as the more attractive ones will see others chasing you, plus they feel devalued as you are chasing the the less attractive ones to them atleast.

[–]4TBhdd[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

they feel devalued as you are chasing the the less attractive ones to them atleast.

So what your saying is that if a HB8 see's you successfully talking to a HB5.. she might even question if she really is an HB8?

[–]Red-Curious11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I don't know about that. I get what /u/rangamatchstick is saying, but showing too much interest in those of lower SMV can be a display of lesser value.

It's like being extremely confident in your skills at putting on a clip-on bow tie. Sure, you're super confident, but it's also super easy and not very masculine. The hot girl sees right away that it's a clip-on and has one of two possible reactions: (1) he must not be man enough to tie a real bow tie, or (2) he's confident with the clip on, but I have no way of knowing if he would be equally as confident with a real bow tie, so his confidence doesn't prove anything to me. There is no third option where her opinion of you is boosted by this display.

That said, showing minor interest or teasing with those of lower SMV can actually be very helpful. This can cause the hot girl to think: He's not shallow. He seems like he knows how to help people relax and have fun. But he also seems to know he can do better, which is why he isn't trying real hard. Maybe he really can do better. I should test him and find out.

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right now I'm happy trying to tie my bow tie to be honest regardless of whether it's beneath my SMV or not.

[–]rangamatchstick0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeh true, should of mentioned that as I have fallen victim to that in the past XD.

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[–]rangamatchstick0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Could be that, or it could be a "why is the ugly fucker getting the attention over me?!" reaction, anyway way I can see the hotter one tends to get jealous or devalued, but like Red-curious said, dont spend too long with the troll.

[–]Senior Endorsedmax_peenor10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't limit to women. Be that guy. Talk to everyone.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much this

[–]PaperStreetVilla3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Old man conversation (DAYBANG) doesn't require a HB10

[–]alphabachelor6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Having this policy when you're in a LTR is essential. When your girlfriend sees you are in demand and she has competition, there is an incentive to be the best woman she can for you.

Obviously don't reveal you're chatting to women below her value but women at or above, absolutely.

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What would happen to her if you branch swung to a lower SMV girl for example.

[–]COLIE531 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

haha to be honest I love gaming elderly women cause there hella funny to me, I'd never pursue anything but it feels good to bring that little girl out of an older women. I dont ever be sexual but just hitting on em playfully. I have good conversations with some of them and they always give me free shit (thats not the reason I do it).

I look at it like as having the same mindset of when I talk to young hotties as when Im talking to older women. I dont care about what comes from it, im just entertaining myself in the moment. if I choose to pursue the young hottie then so be it and if not oh well Im still just doin my thing.

[–]LethalShade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Where do you come across these older women? The bar milf kind or the old lady at the grocery store kind?

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, absolutely. Take to everyone, and just game the hot ones.

[–]tossa010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I did when I was still too quiet around people. Now I just do what I want

[–]boscoist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, it is incredible to see them get all flustered and is a reminder of the work that lies ahead to get even hotter women to do that

[–]1walawalawa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I game all women regardless of their age or looks often just for practice.

It doesn't mean I want to fuck them. But practicing a tease, or a neg or asking them questions about themselves, it helps to get you in the mindset of confidence and abundance so when you talk to some HB7 or above, it's not a big deal and you can plough through.

[–]AnonX660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've got some strictly platonic female friends, who I talk to a decent amount

[–]addwater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do. It's great practice. Even old lady's, hell. They will help you sharpen the blade that is social skills and even game. Believe it or not.

[–]PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I found that you don't need practice talking to people. Everyone knows how to talk to people instinctively. It's the motivation behind it that needs practice. By default I'm a laid back guy and wolf pack minded when it comes to other guys. Be it school, friends. work or sports, I like to expand the social circle and talk fun shit.

Whenever I talk to women from a place of neediness. The need to fuck, the need to have a girl and anything like that. I found that this just works like shit. When I talk to them like they are just another guy things work better. But things really get off when I'm distracted by something else, slightly annoyed at their pressence and/or bored using them as entertainment.

Simply put, whenever I interact with women things work the best when I don't want anything from them. This makes them want to get qualified/validated. Eventually if I like the girl she does all the work and I just return the ball in her court.

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