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We've all heard of the great Jordan Peterson by now but and after his incredible interview with Cathy Newman he's shot into the mainstream. JBP is mostly Red Pilled as seen on this subreddit a few times before. As he is going against the mainstream feminist, left-leaning narrative he evidently has experienced a lot of backlash. Here's one of the many reasons why.

I recently discovered an audio snippet of Peterson speaking on feminism and Islam in which he describes the thought that "Men test ideas, women test men" ie. shit testing. He then goes on to describe how he found it funny when Fifty Shades of Grey was released and how that even in this heavily feminized world, "The fastest selling novel the world had ever seen was S&M domination." It goes without saying that the reason why it was so popular is the attraction to sexual dominance in women. They might not say they do, but secretly almost all of them want to be dominated.

He then goes on to theorize that perhaps the reason feminists are not protesting societies like Saudi Arabia with actual oppression of women is their longing for male dominance that they've "chased out of the west."

It's obvious what he's describing here. The societal shit test that feminism is. It's basic stuff really that we've seen over and over. Here's how regular shit test goes:

  1. Woman is attracted to dominance and alpha traits

  2. Woman shit tests man to see which one's won't back down, fulfilling her unconscious attraction to dominance

  3. If a man fails a shit test the woman either keeps shit testing while pushing the boundaries to see what she can get away with or if there's no other incentives to continue being involved with a man (Money, status etc.), she will drop him.

If you've ever seen or been apart of an unhappy couple with a Beta, male half then you've probably noticed this last point. The shit tests will keep getting bigger and bigger. She's unconsciously hoping for a pass but if the guy keeps failing she has to increase the scope. This process goes on and on.

This part of female psychology is why feminism is what it is today where it's grown into a movement with a total disregard for logic or facts and which respects only (female) feelings.

"You're sexist if you don't think there's a wage gap"

"The patriarchy is what's keeping women out of stem and keeping up glass ceilings."

The list goes on. There's a reason why those male feminists are always "nice guys" and creeps. No self respecting man can call themselves a feminist let alone be apart of the movement but it's those male feminists and betas alike that have allowed this to go on. They have failed the shit tests and feminism as a movement has kept testing harder and harder to see what it can get away with, each claim being more outrageous than the last. Feminists can shit test the betas and use them to their advantage. They get whiteknighted by them. They get given jobs they aren't the best candidate for. They get stem scholarships just for being female. All the while you can bet your bottom dollar that the guy they want to actually fuck didn't fail the shit tests. He passed them because it's that desire for male dominance which is the very foundation of female attraction.

[–]Gutrek343 points344 points  (65 children) | Copy

This is why I only partly blame women for rasical feminism. The real blame is on weak men. If we had a society filled with men who will stand well-grounded on a set of principles, who never allow pathological thinking to invade their boundaries, radical feminism would be DEAD. The world desperatly needs strong men.

[–]nobodyinparticu1ar353 points354 points  (38 children) | Copy

Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. The cycle.

[–]DoubleA1237 points38 points  (35 children) | Copy

Wow, never heard this, very concise.

[–]SultanPepe62 points63 points  (34 children) | Copy

We are currently in the weak men phase and are entering the hard times phase. This is the decline everyone says to enjoy.

The big question is whether the next strong men will come from within the west, or be imported from Islam or Africa.

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (31 children) | Copy

I live in a large North American city, and the Last time I went to my favorite club, it was wall-to-wall Saudi, Iraqi, Iranian and Pakistani guys (I know because I was there with a friend from Lebanon, he knows by their accent). They were all sharply dressed, in shape, and gaming hard. The girls that were there just eat it up-- men from those areas are dominant from the very beginning.

Nothing wrong with that, Western men just need to step the fuck up already.

[–]marplaneit35 points36 points  (29 children) | Copy

lol when you mean Western you mean europe are America. Go to south america, for most guys here the red pill is what the regular guys think. Yes, they may not have system of idea like we do here. When I went to USA, I just was baffled on how most man were behaving... totally bettish. I was told I was a little bit of an asshole yet I was getting asked for dates from girls and some of even had boyfriends.

[–]fanturnedon 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I'm Argentinean. Agree 100%. That being said, it has begun in Latin America as well. I think either the next generation or the one after will be as fucked as American millennials.

[–]Irishminer936 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Argentinean? You guys know how to party. Spent a few weeks there and quickly found out as long as you can hold your liquor you'll have a great time. Haven't been there in years though... might be time to take a vacation.

[–]fanturnedon 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Cuarteto and Fernet all day and night it's the recipe for eternal happiness, am I right?

[–]Irishminer932 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh, Fernet, I couldn't remember the name of that drink... Thank you. And your absolutely right.

[–]marplaneit3 points4 points  (15 children) | Copy

Esto esta plagado de argentinos la puta madre jajaja. De donde sos?

[–]fanturnedon 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Me imaginé que eras compatriota por el nick. Marplatense? Típico de argento agrandado lo que voy a escribir, pero la posta es que esto está plagado de argentinos porque somos los más pija de Latinoamérica. Simple as that. Yo soy de Isidro Casanova pero radico en EUA desde los 11.

[–]22Luika1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Acá es la pastilla o nada papu

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    [–]eccentricrealist2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

    En México ya se ve un chingo con los fresas y comunistas. Ni modo, que ellos se jodan

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      [–]Merwebb1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

      Y para los buenos para nada

      [–]Avertus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

      I think the whole Red Pill philosophy was compiled specifically for 21st-Century American society, where feminazis dominate pop culture, politics and the academe.

      [–]BigMawsmidget1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

      Think we're in-between phases or almost there I should say.

      [–]dykedestroyer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

      You should look up red pill philospher Samuel W Hyderson

      [–]thedaynos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

      i've always thought and known this, but never been able to write it so simply. thanks.

      [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy

      Of course. Men ARE the society. Women are merely another part of the society that needs to be managed and defended.

      [–]1cappadocianhawk31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

      I agree. Men built this world, and sure as shit we are responsible for what has happened to it. Blaming the women for being women is pointless.

      [–]Troll_Name5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

      Women are the experience point monsters in RPGs. Some guys spend all day on them; some guys try to bypass them altogether. Some guys ignore the heroic quests of their life entirely and just grind on monsters for fun.

      [–]Steadyeddie197024 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

      You need to step away from the gaming console.

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        [–]Troll_Name6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy


        Non-bio fathers are proven inferior parents to bio fathers. When you add 'unwilling' to the mix, I'm not sure if the matter has been studied sufficiently but I would venture a very confident guess the suitability drops even further. Family courts rubber stamp any man in reach as the legal father - only in criminal court is there a presumption of innocence. Family court is where the institution of family goes to die.

        [–]brucebannerstailor13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

        You can’t blame bitches at all. You can get angry at them, but would you blame a shark for swimming close to shore and takin a bite out of a motherfucker? No, it’s in that creatures nature. This is 100% on us, because there are so many dudes willing to bow down to them and not fight their horseshit because they think that’s how you get laid.

        [–]dsade1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

        Do you blame pedophiles for fucking little kids? Or do you, despite their "nature" to be attracted to kids, recognize that there are probably a ton out there that recognize the shittiness of acting on their drives and control them?

        [–]brucebannerstailor3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

        Thats way different though dude, and pedophelia is most likely the result of mental illness or messed up wiring in the brain. Bitches have this shit engrained into their DNA. They have subconscious thought patterns that create the insaneness and it presents itself unless there is a dominant force there to keep it submissive. Pedophelia is an urge that gets acted upon, like an itch for lack of better term. Its a conscious decision whether or not you scratch that itch. Women don't have the conscious ability to recognize what their subconscious is doing.

        [–]dsade0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

        I disagree...its a hard wiring somehow but to think they don't know exactly what they are doing, but stifle that awareness due to biological drive is willful ignorance. They are fully aware of their hamster.

        [–]brucebannerstailor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

        Idk how to explain this over typing, but I think we are kind of talking about two different things. I recognize bitches can be manipulative or throw some shit out to see how dudes will react, and that they do that knowingly. Even though they do manipulative shit knowingly, as a pedo fucks a kid knowing its wrong, its different in that there is literally thousands of years of evolution giving engraining these things into women and how they need to act to choose the correct partner. Pedophiles aren't something thats been evolutionarily passed on where inside their DNA they have to fuck kids for some reason, its a mental urge that is controllable. You can't really control shit in your DNA. Thats like asking someone not to get Alzheimers because its a hinderance to you.

        [–]dsade1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

        You're attempting to explain your viewpoint, and I am explaining mine. It's going fine.

        "In their DNA" really isn't an explanation. DNA and gene expression influences biochemical reactions including neurotransmitter releases. These are merely influences towards behaviour and not hard wired behaviours themselves. Though every person has genetic and individual tendency towards behaviours it is either internal or external reinforcement of those behaviours that solidifies them as either merely urges or uncontrollable acts.

        Shit like modern feminism, as well as the beta male reaction (also conditioned and not genetic) which rewarda them are that reinforcement. The drives of pedophilia are likely also a genetic aberration that is just so frowned upon that it's more obvious that, again either internal or external reinforcement exerts more of a control motive.

        In the end, behaviour is chosen and it is the reaction that determines whether it becomes a dominant behaviour is that person. Much like today's sweeping beta wave is "genetic". No, it's just reinforced into being more of the norm.

        [–]Spunkdiver28 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

        Two world wars certainly took a lions share of the strong men.

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          [–]Troll_Name10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

          Well-adjusted, I'd call that a better term. They know reality because they witnessed reality. Compare with Soy Justice Warriors sitting in a coffee shop and screaming for a violent revolution because they're not getting the right vibes out of life.

          War is a great way to benefit the chosen few at the expense of the most. They gained wisdom and lost youth; another way of saying they aged fast-forward. "War is good for the economy" came from the fact that US factories were charging sky-high prices for their work after the rest of the world's factories were destroyed. This produced the idea of "American exceptionalism," which lead to the way of thinking that made America stop being exceptional.

          [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

          I disagree unequivocally. The best way to raise boys into manly men is with a present and manly father. When boys have no positive influence to look up to they turn into beta nice guys. The world wars wiped out millions of fathers and turned hundreds of millions of boys into weak beta men.

          [–]truedemocracy319 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

          There are generally two types of male enablers:

          1. The serious sympathizers - These are ones who buy into feminism hook line and sinker. They think women are actually oppressed, and men are the culprit. This is their own sexual strategy in a way, by appealing to 'equality' they are hoping to get a pat on the head and sex (but only if she consents!). These men are almost always liberal, meek, and soft but think they are geniuses. Feminism is a denial of feminine gender roles so these guys are a denial of masculine ones. Wont lead with their women, arent physically capable in any way, etc.

          2. Male Machiavellians - Much rarer but easy to spot. These are guys who toot the feminism horn to gain power in other ways, but is not a sexual strategy. The classical example is Hollywood - a bastion of progressive ideals that focus on womens rights, now having the 'metoo' curtain pulled back. But you can see these in real life too - often it is the high ranking executive at your company, the marketing efforts of some brand trying to be appealing, or local celebrity who really doesnt give a shit about womens rights but will take positions on it to be better received by public/gain market share/make money. I've seen high ranking executives I work alongside do the womens march and talk about womens rights but secretly grab ass and display other traits of dominance. A lot of high ranking coastal elite professionals are like this. You really think the VP of that tech company cares about womens rights? No. But they do care about how it can help their company succeed by appealing to certain demographics.

          Both are bad for men long term. I can at least admire the underhandedness of group 2. The 1st type serve as the majority, the useful idiots, the weak men of society.

          [–]Troll_Name1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

          Male Machiavellians - Much rarer but easy to spot. These are guys who toot the feminism horn to gain power in other ways, but is not a sexual strategy. The classical example is Hollywood - a bastion of progressive ideals that focus on womens rights, now having the 'metoo' curtain pulled back.

          "Predators often disguise as their prey..."

          [–]Werkzeug813 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

          Feminists don't want what they ask for but men keep giving it to them.

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            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

            This is one of the side effects of the red pill.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

            Blame. This is such a narrowminded concept. Expand your mind.

            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

            what does this comment mean?

            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil111 points112 points  (11 children) | Copy

            According to Julias Evola the decline is simultaneously spiritual and morphic. The two go hand in hand. So not only must western men work harder then their predecessors they must work harder for an inferior product.

            Imagine a landlord charging ever more money for an ever deteriorating apparent. Men need to man up and move into this shithole! They need to move into this Compton apartment, pay 3k a month and fix the place up!

            The smartest thing to do is to take your western dollars and white male energy and spend it in a place that doesn't openly hate you for absolutely no reason.

            [–]sigma27211 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

            Julias Evola

            Wew, you're even more redpilled than I thought

            [–]2CasaDeFranco2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

            I'm loving seeing authors like Evola are getting a renaissance today.

            [–]ShavedApel5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

            Isn't that what the MGTOWs have been saying.

            I thought we were supposed to work harder to become alpha and deal with the washed up product as best we can.

            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

            Your not withdrawing from society your withdrawing from the West

            [–]dmystery6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

            But surely in a world where globalisation is the dominating force, it’s almost impossible to escape “The West”? The east (where oriental philosophy of stoicism and spirituality shuns materialism) a western lifestyle of consumerism (and other blue pilled) is being heralded as the best. How can one withdraw when the decline is global?

            [–]LittleLegionaire52 points53 points  (80 children) | Copy

            Jordan Peterson is a RP messiah for millennial and the youth of today - he's helped me find meaning and some peace in life, and is sadly almost a second father to me because my own hasn't really taught me anything this valuable (yet somehow developed these values on his own growing up in a poverty stricken single mother household, sadly his little brother floundered but hey that's life).

            Anyway, he is the closest you are going to get to RP truths in the mainstream, I think. I keep seeing people suggesting Rollo go on the JRE except I can't imagine Joe a; letting it happen b; let anyone say anything that so boldly contradicts his liberal BP programming. He can tolerate JP because he speaks mostly universal truths that Joe clearly understands and has found himself, but he'll let BP fucker's on all the time and let them speak their bullshit as well (unless you are Steven Crowder and attack his weed). I mean, Joe isn't the most super BP person because he had a wild youth but he would jump out of his seat when he hears Rollo say "All women wanna suck the most alpha dick at all times, AWALT, gotta spin plates bro..." which isn't to say that would be his approach, but he'd challenge those viewpoints with the classic "That's outrageous... how dare you insult m'lady!" or some similar retort.

            [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 27 points28 points  (5 children) | Copy

            Jordan Peterson is a RP messiah for millennial and the youth of today - he's helped me find meaning and some peace in life, and is sadly almost a second father to me because my own hasn't really taught me anything this valuable (yet somehow developed these values on his own growing up in a poverty stricken single mother household, sadly his little brother floundered but hey that's life).

            You and me both brother. For some reason there's a bit of an anti-jerk about JBP. Saying he's a bad philosopher and he's just exploiting young men. Yeah he's not the second coming of Jesus, not everything he says is correct and nor do I agree with everything but he's providing a much needed message not just to young men but young people in general. All he's saying is to take responsibility for you own life. You could complain about not having women. You could complain about not having money. Or you could do something about it. For me I already learned this when discovering this subreddit. To me, RP is mainly about taking responsibility. That's the main thing that I take from it. Once you do that then the rest of life will fall into place given enough hard work. Women, money etc. It's just strange to me that people would be against the message that he's teaching. I guess they are confronted and don't want to take responsibility themselves.

            I think Joe Rogan might be a bit more RP than you're describing. I'm pretty sure he once said this about the UFC fighter Luke Rockhold. "The only reason any guy has gotten laid ever is because Luke Rockhold wasn't in the room." He's obviously exaggerating for comedic effect but the underlying sentiment is still there.

            He's quite liberal in his thinking but he takes care of himself and his body, has loads of money and basically does whatever the fuck he wants. He built a god damn archery shooting range in his new studio for fuck sake lol. Yeah, he probably isn't chasing down women but he's got kids. He's got a incredibly successful podcast where he can talk to amazing guests for hours. He's got a pretty great life at least that's what it seems like on paper. If he let on a proper RP guy on the podcast he probably wouldn't agree with them but he would let them speak for sure.

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              [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

              I dont think Joe is BP with feminism. He has to be careful because his ‘channel’ gets millions of impressions from males in their 20’s. If cones out as right wing it could sink him. Thats the sick world we live in.

              [–]root_pulp10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

              I tend to agree with you. There’s a lot of flashes of real solid RP moments that break through sometimes with Rogan.

              Between that, some of the shit he says during his stand up routines and the fact that he has had many moments with guests where he tells them they are going to talk about something “off air”. I say Rogan is pretty solidly RP but is in a position where he has to obfuscate the truth for the sake of his career.

              [–]thisguyPlaysPoE-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

              open borders

              That's incorrect, he actually talks about that in many of his lectures. You seem to have mised them, or are doing a Kathy Newman and are trying to make him look bad.

              Stop it.

              Do more research on the topic before you spout bullshit (and no i'm not going to fucking do it for you) gtfo.

              [–]mattizie4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

              and is sadly almost a second father to me

              And that's one of the reasons why he makes over a million bucks a year.

              [–]thetotalpackage75 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

              Jordan Peterson makes millions per year? Genuinely asking. I know he has a new book out and a cult following, but as far as I can tell he burst on the scene about a year and half ago and was only making college professor money...which I assume in Canada is about $80k?

              [–]Komandirskie9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

              His patreon alone makes 80k a month. Throw on book sales and the salary of a professor, which could be over 100k a year due to how long he has been teaching, and he easily could make over a million. He also sells 4 different self help programs, which you can get for free if you time it right, but otherwise the whole package deal for the programs can be around $100. He also released a personality test that costs $10.

              JP is an entrepreneur. On the JRE he said he found a way to monetize SJW. He said something along the lines of "if the SJW let me speak people donate to my patreon. If the SJW protest, I get even more money for my patreon". He made a biblical lecture on YouTube that I'm pretty sure is monetized.

              It's just crazy to think about how much money there is in telling men, especially young men, to better yourself. It really is telling of our current society.

              [–]thetotalpackage74 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

              Wow...patreon at $80k per month?? Awesome. Is the $ people are earning from Patreon actually public domain?

              [–]Komandirskie2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

              Some patreons show how much they make. I believe Jordan Peterson has his hidden starting a couple months ago. A lot of larger patreons hide theirs. When you show how much you earn it discourages new people from donating. At least that's my take.

              [–]thisguyPlaysPoE1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

              it looks like thetotalpackge is fishing for something. I wonder what it is? he surely isn't contributing to the thread's discussion.

              [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

              He is an entrepreneur. That much is obvious. That doesn't make him wrong though and it certainly doesn't make him an ineffective source of wisdom and self help. The entrepreneur in him has figured out that the best way to make money is to help people effectively. That is why his followers donate so much to his patreon. He has genuinely helped them and they want to show their support. He isn't doing some jedi mind tricks to force them to donate. They do it on their own accord.

              [–]mattizie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              Add it all together:

              College money = 80k

              Patreon money = ~50k/month(average estimate over 1 year) * 12 months = 600k,

              Book sales = ?

              Online personality quiz thing = ?

              Speaking/appearance/interview income = ?

              Is also a clinical psychologist, so how much do his patients/clients pay him?

              My guess is that as of now, he makes a million a year.

              [–]truedemocracy35 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Joe Rogan is the definition of red pilled but not unplugged man.

              [–]Atuli2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

              I think you are underestimating rollos ability to present his ideas in a way that’s widely digestible to joes audience.

              [–]LittleLegionaire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              I'd hope so if he ever made it on.

              [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat35 points36 points  (8 children) | Copy

              ...I would add; do not fall into the false notion that "dominance" will keep a woman around these days. I was called a "bully" by my ex-wife, that was always gushing wet for me (and still is) because I am a solid dominant man by nature. Not an asshole, just strong and in control. The hive mind is just too far reaching in their inner circles, media, legal system, et al.

              Certainly continue to be dominant, but hold no delusions that it means anything more than getting ahead in your career and regular pussy in the present times.

              TLDR: Dominance will not keep a marriage together anymore.

              [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

              Marriage either requires complete and utter dominance and fear mongering or some sort of compromise on the man's part to work. Think of the middle east. The man has total control over the woman and if she leaves the man she is stoned to death for adultery. Are these marriages successful? Depends on how you define success but they certainly last "till death do us part".

              This type of dominance is obviously unattainable in modern society and I am not condoning it either. So to make your marriage last you must compromise to some degree. That means leaving yourself open for betrayal. The marriage might last or it might not. You might find out your kid isn't actually yours or that she is divorcing you for someone who has more money.

              In that sense, marriage is incompatible with TRP in my opinion. It is a remnant from an ancient time when women were allowed no free will. I think you will see it die out in the distant future. Until then, don't get married. Unless you really want kids then you just have to take the risk.

              [–]Starfuckingman6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

              I am from the middle east and there is no such thing, barely any countries follow the strict religious rules of Islam, its only saudi arabia and they're pretty retarded doing it (misinterpreting religious texts in the most abhorring way). Most, if not all the other arab/middle east countries are affected by the globalization effect and hope to get westernized as much as they could, betas and geeks every fucking where, especially from the middle up to the high class. Women rebelling on the traditional and religious ways, wearing hijab doesn't mean shit. Though, our divorce rules doesn't fuck us up like you do but they do give women some benefits to a certain level but its frowned up. However, the well educated females are always looking to dominate and get rid of the tradtional arab dominant man by all means. Which is most if not all the young females now. We're having it hard too and political correctness is increasing in the educated class by the second. Even the retarded saudi arabia (the most arab country that's made fun of among arabs) are slowly loosing up the rules on women, first they never allowed them to drive or work in certain jobs now that's all changing. Just hoping to clarify things a little up. Obviously they don't know the shit they're getting themselves into.

              [–]MazMazda31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

              I know exactly what you're talking about. Visiting back to my home country, I could see the feminist and PC culture creeping in.

              [–]AshyLarry271 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

              While I am all for equality among the sexes, it's almost horrifying to know that feminism and PC culture has gotten so big, even such a region that has held Sharia Law in such high regard is even crumbling to these movements. The middle east is hands down one of the first places people think of when it comes to gender inequality.

              [–]Starfuckingman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

              True but its mostly for the low smv women/men. They got nothing better do and getting a family through religion is their best bet so they go along with it. But the high/middle SMV males and females, completely transformed. Always looking for independent working english-speaking women. And you can guess their basic package easily. They love the show Friends, some even Sex and the city and so on and so on. We don't have pay gab too (at most of places). At many times, female workers are preferred over male workers and gets paid more sometimes cause its a kind of a sexually deprived society, so the female presence is even more valuable. (Most of us don't get laid until they get married kind of thing, even a lot of non-religious men/women don't go full penetration without marriage cause they're just way too used to it. Non virgins are not wanted most of the time. Double standards I'd say but I like it that way personally)

              [–]jtedd920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              Always remember: equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.

              [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              I agree....total acceptance of the Red Pill (aka reality) means that marriage is not a realistic approach to life in the modern era. We know the facts and statistics...to ignore them is no longer an excuse.

              "...but, she's not like other women!" = "...I cannot believe she did this to me!"

              [–]MrTrizzles8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

              The fine doctor is a good example of a man with a fair mastery of his masculinity. While of course underpinning everything he does, he delpoys more potent concentrations with good measure and timing. And looking pretty damn good at 55. A surplus of masculinity isn't likely to be a common problem here, but it's still worth taking note of the demeanor of a man who perhaps knows more about the subject than us all.

              [–]GrumblingRose6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

              This is actually the first time I've heard of Jordan Peterson, and after watching that interview with Cathy I am grateful I was given the opportunity to find out about him. I'll be grabbing his book when I can and am excited to watch more of his youtube lectures.

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

              My god the hamster wheeling in that 30 minute interview was ridiculous.

              [–]man19283746511 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

              Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada and biggest male feminist in the country. Such an embarrassment to the men of this country. Outrageous misuse of governmental rules to pile on men. Latest travesty is trying to mandate board of directors diversity. Companies that men have worked to build into success stories. Even worse, this smiling (wo)man likely to get re-elected.

              [–]reluctantly_red6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Like his father, junior Trudeau is far more Alpha than he first appears. He's an excellent politician who knows how to get progressives and liberals to vote for him while remaining firmly tied to Canadian business elites. This drives Canada's labour party (the NDP) nuts.

              [–]Gervant_of_Lyria15 points16 points  (9 children) | Copy

              The Red Pill is not a cult, not a religion, not a fellowship or a team you root for, it is a toolbox, that tries to accurately explain the nature and patterns of the bipedal bald ape's sexual behavior. What you do with those tools is strictly your business.

              Do you worship your axe, or drill? Don't think so.

              And Jordan Peterson is not your friend just because many of the things he says are correct and he's against social justice. He almost certaintly has an agenda, and a religious one in his case.

              [–]wendysNO1wcheese25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

              If you think his agenda is religion, then his stuff is going way over your head.

              [–]GoCleanYourRoom5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

              what exactly do you think is his religious agenda ?

              [–]Top_Brazzler-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

              This I'm curious about as well. Not all Christians care about making others go to Heaven.

              [–]Fyrjefe3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Amen to the first part. So often I see people use red pill and blue pill in terms of sportsball teams. Examine everything. Test everything. Set your eyes on your path.

              [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

              The "cult hero" thing was just tongue in cheek. His critics at least the ones I've seen at least on reddit constantly point out his supposedly "cult-like following".

              [–]Gervant_of_Lyria3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

              Ah, ok got it mate. Tbf, his fans actually do resemble a cult-like worshippers of everything he says.

              [–]1Metalageddon4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

              That's just the most vocal ones.

              Anyone hyped on dogma (any dogma) will appear the same and be the most vocal.

              [–]Rian_Stone2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Once Hitchens died, they needed a replacement

              [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Do they really? Can't say I have seen it. Yeah he gets spammed a lot on reddit but he's the flavour of the month so to speak. I go to his subreddit a lot and can't really see anyone sucking his dick too much. Yeah they agree with most of what he says but that is reddit for you.

              [–]CptFizz9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Women were a mistake. Artificial wombs and sexbots can't come soon enough.

              [–]VickVaseline4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

              The audio snippet is from this Peterson video:


              [–]Luckyluke231 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

              i like how you make the distinction between CONSCIOUS and UNCONSCIOUS in this post.

              because when it boils down to it... desire can't be negotiated with, therefor is it really conscious. If it's not conscious, then how can you take a women at her word?

              [–]AussiecuntTRP[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Of course.

              Awalt. Watch what she does not what she says.

              You can guarantee that the hot "feminist" is getting banged by the alpha who stands against her not with her.

              [–]PrepositionalChi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              I liked GLO's recent thread about using tactics found in religion to crush feminism.

              [–]UnwittingJerk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              I don't think Jordan embraces the TRP philosophy to the core at all. Sure there are similarities, but...

              He lectures about the importance of alpha traits and his relationship tips are very much like the ones here, but, as a matter of fact, in some of his interviews and podcasts, he advocates for men to marry well and have kids, and repeatedly says men need these "responsibilities" to be "fulfilled" in life.

              He married his sweetheart gf.

              [–]SKRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              There's a variation of the shit test called the newspaper / social media shit test.


              Hamster spinning at 25 mph here. Betaization process activated.

              [–]LuckyCriminal980 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              I used to be a very very whiteknighted beta bluepilled boy since little boy until 18 that I started the gym. Some months later discovered Game and RealSocialDynamics. With the gym my confidence grew a lot but with RSD I learned how females think and react.

              Well so until 18 that I left highschool to go to college there was this feminist girl at my class I got along well (friendzoned because BluePilled boy and pedestalized her). 3 days ago I met some of her friends and she came too.

              After learning how females behave and reading TheRedPill I can tell you that this feminist girls act different with BluePilled boys and Alphas. She acted different with me now that I'm more RedPilled, threw some shit test about faminism and passed them, then when I told her to shut up because something I didnt agree with her about the gym and diets, she shut up and let me talk. Before she would have raised the voice and not let me talk, now in stead she shut up and let me dominate. Might have not explained it well but in the field I could notice the change.

              [–]slowfjh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

              I am so late to this debate but I just wanted to thank you for postimg that link to the Jordan Peterson interview. I am new to TRP but I feel like the scales have fallen from my eyes. He was so articulate, lucid, rational, calm and clear. Thank you again for introducing me to him

              [–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

              Jordan Peterson has many great points but he is pretty blue pilled and preaches for equality.

              [–]reluctantly_red3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

              Not really. He just presents RP ideas in an intellectual, and generally more palatable, manner.

              [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

              J O R D A N P E T E R S O N I S B L U E P I L L E D


              [–]Zech4riah2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

              You should check his videos related to somehow sexual strategy.

              This is about who you can or should call with a certain name.

              His thoughts about sexual strategy are blue pilled filled with gender equality. Men and women are not the same or equal when it comes to sexual strategy.