Girls are losers

WakingToNewDawn · 2018-02-23T11:49:13+00:00

I understand the point of this post is to help unpedastalize women, but the whole “women aren’t on my intellectual level because they won’t discuss quantum mechanics” is neckbeardy. In my experience going through gender balanced STEM programs, I have met a lot of very attractive women that were also ambitious and intelligent. While culture may give some people the option to be vapid, as you’ve discussed, many people (men AND WOMEN) are not complacent with that and elect to go above and beyond for their own fulfillment.

My advice is to take a break from this forum, delete tinder for a while (tinder will absolutely destroy just about anyone’s faith in the opposite sex), and actually meet some women in a different setting.

brinkleybuzz · 2018-02-05T02:14:59+00:00

Bingewatching Netflix series, spending hours on social media, reading Vogue, .... Activities that are in no way improving themselves or anything around them.

To be brutally honest, substitute video games for Netflix and internet boards for social media in this line and you will have described a large portion of the male population.

The difference between a male and female loser is the female loser was born with something that has value out of the box, her vagina. A male loser is worthless.

MrCarepig · 2018-02-05T00:09:02+00:00

Well if you put women on the same standard as men yeah they are. But theyre not really programed to be ambitious, diciplined and strong like us. The worst thing you can call a man is a loser. Call a woman a loser, no biggie. The worst thing you can call a woman is a whore, call a man a whore hell say thank you.

derex · 2018-02-04T21:52:18+00:00

Inherently there is nothing with this lifestyle IF (and only IF) you are where you want to be.

Hot girls are already where they want to be ... at least until they hit the wall.

kaane · 2018-02-04T19:26:35+00:00

Do you realize how many offers do these women get daily ? Especially the beautiful ones. You wouldn't believe. Trust me.

When everything is handed to you on a silver plate, you will not find the motivation to get out and educate yourself. Do something better for you and for the world around you.

This is pretty normal if you ask me. The women are meant to be giving birth to the children and keep feeding them until they grow up. They don't have to be rocket scientists.

If this bothers you, well, there is nothing you can do about it. Remember, a man has to build himself from the ground up.

-clickhere- · 2018-02-05T05:22:48+00:00

"Sampling bias"

You need to hang around where smart women congregate. A few of them will be hot. Then, you can date someone who is not a loser.

It sounds like you are suffering from sampling bias, in that you are surrounded by the 'loser' variety of women.

Within that context, your post is 100% correct, and dead-on.

But why not try branching out to where the smart/successful women are, and then report back. I'm fortunate to work in a place with go-getters of all types, including women, and they are smart, successful, and definitely not losers.

Still AWALT, for sure, and on overdrive.

But not losers.

econquest · 2018-02-05T01:31:26+00:00

NOTE: I am just a novice to TRP so take this with a grain of sand.

This is what I thought of your post. There are two kinds of pretty girls:

Humans, who are subject to the same laws as a perfect-10 male model. Do you think with the right genetics a man can be a model without any regard to his choice of clothing, style, health, diet, anything? Of course not. The first type of perfect-10 girl is only human and of course gets to be a 10 by investing the required amount of time into fashion, beauty, travel, clothes, diet, friends, and so on.
There is another type of "perfect 10" girl who spends 0 time doing the loser activities you listed: the ones in your fantasy.

Please note that the red pill teaches you the male equivalent, but from the point of view of the first type (humans.) There's a second type of man who is a billionaire, but without any time investment (has all the time in the world), can read thoughts, is an expert at everything, can take care of a woman without any hesitation and always knows just what to say in all situations and all this doesn't take any time at all. This is the type-2 that lives in women's heads.

The actual billionaires are "losers". They're just in meetings for 100 hours per week, or reading 100 page legal opinions from their chief legal counsel. And they have a beer gut. Here's mark zuckerberg.

What a loser. Type 1 billionaires are losers, just like type 1 perfect 10 models are losers. what you're looking for, and what some women are looking for, is just a fantasy.

look_good · 2018-02-04T23:36:19+00:00

“she’s not yours, it’s just your turn”

Reunn · 2018-02-04T20:31:39+00:00

I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpreation of religion with girls. Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

To be fair, you have to be very high in the dominance hierarchy to understand Jordan Peterson. He is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of psychology most of the truths will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Peterson's non-nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterization - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Jungian literature, roughly speaking. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these truths, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Jordan Peterson truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in his existential catchphrase "Clean Your Room," which itself is a cryptic reference to Dostoevsky's Russian epic The Brothers Karamazov. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated post-modernists scratching their heads in confusion as JBP's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What Neo-Marxists... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Jordan Peterson tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they've climbed the dominance hierarchy.

GoGetting · 2018-02-05T05:17:02+00:00

Yeah, sure, the grapes are sour.

IdoNtEvEnWaTz · 2018-02-04T23:08:19+00:00

Well they get treated like goddesses when they are in their prime which probably reduces their drive to become competent in a particular field of knowledge.

I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpretation of religion

Cringey as fuck. Just because you watched some physics youtube videos and JBP you think you are knowledge in these subjects? You only scratched the surface and that doesn't take much time. The truth is it's most impossible to be a rennaisance man because the depth of knowledge available in every discipline these days is incredibly vast.

Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. It's not healthy to only point out the worst in people.

IntensePancakes · 2018-02-05T17:09:10+00:00

This post reeks of someone who has never been successful enough to be in an environment composed of other truly successful people, which gasp includes women as well, and they're not one-trick ponies.

I work at a top management consulting firm, and my colleagues (both male and female) are both extremely knowledgeable and interested in the world and its various intellectual disciplines, as well as being extremely successful at a young age.

Are there patterns and tendencies among women to be interested in, on average, less-intellectual topics than men? Sure. But does that mean that all successful, intelligent women are "one trick ponies"? Absolutely not. If you truly believe that then you are a legitimate idiot.

Also, dear lord, have you ever actually had a conversation with a real human being? Nobody fucking discusses Quantum Mechanics in common conversation unless you're a physicist, or you're an edgy neckbeard "I am very smart" type who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about, which I would argue, is even worse than a girl who only watches netflix and goes shopping.

You, sir, are the loser.

throwlaca · 2018-02-04T21:16:10+00:00

I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpreation of religion with girls.

Sorry to dissapoint you but the only thing that the majority of men and even men in this very sub think is "ahh my team is better than yours!" or "I'm alpha as fuck hurr durrr fucking betas everywhere!"

And this is what girls have to put up with, because they are attracted to this beasts of men.

C_Till · 2018-02-05T02:14:24+00:00

I didn't think that RP could get any sillier....but here is a post saying girls are losers. Bravo

otticusoppositionist · 2018-02-05T03:57:24+00:00

Genuinely curious as to how this OP (and others like it) get upvotes and generally supportive comments - even on this sub.

Do the sane folks just ignore this drivel? I see some genuinely intelligent arguments on here occasionally; surprised not to see these folks speaking out.

laughingandgrief · 2018-02-06T17:08:00+00:00

Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

And the truth reveals itself.

suckinfishboy · 2018-02-04T21:55:39+00:00

This isn't really redpill material

liizzsar · 2018-02-05T18:54:08+00:00

Thanks to Marie Curie, a physicist, chemist and Nobel Prize winner, you can get an X-ray to see how tiny your brain really is.

Honestly, I'm not saying every women is an intellectual machine, but to categorize the whole female population as losers when just as many guys spend their whole life being gym rats and spouting "bro" (the equivalent of female "like") while posting Instagram pictures of their perfect abs to get attention, without the slightest interest in politics, business, history or science, doesn't strike me as fair.

You're simply talking about vain and low IQ people like Kim Kardashian, and maybe there are more women in that category, but that doesn't mean ALL women are like that.

nomorelulu · 2018-02-05T07:57:49+00:00

I adore beautiful girls. I like their feminine energy, their naivety, their carelessness. I'm not looking to discuss Quantum Mechanics or the Jungian interpretation of religion with girls. Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side.

Man you're missing out on a lot

chazthundergut · 2018-02-06T00:36:32+00:00

Girls may be losers, but even the most uninteresting woman is capable of bearing children.

So they have intrinsic value.

Men have little intrinsic value. All the value that a man has comes from what he has done and what he is capable of doing.

So men should stop worrying about how women are losers and focus on rising to nature's challenge. Sort your life out. Face your demons. Lift. Kill it in your career. Ace every class. Find something that ignites your passion and pursue it seriously. Build a social circle of men you respect. Take ownership of your life. Become a leader, starting with yourself

Chicks are plenty cool. Tits, ass, and a pretty smile. The smell of her hair, the softness of her skin. The way her head tilts back as she laughs. The look in her eye when she surrenders to you completely. She's already good. It's up to you to become better than her.

jackandjill22 · 2018-02-06T01:40:09+00:00

This is true. Women can make it further in life being mediocre.

"It's more fun to be a mediocre uninteresting girl than a guy"

High achieving men, & average women have every incentive to STOMP average & below dudes. Combine that with the fact that women have hoards of people willing to take care of them. The scenario's entirely different.

mocket_ran · 2018-02-07T00:31:42+00:00

I know a girl sb9 that is a model and has 170k followers on instagram. She does absolutely nothing to better herself in anyway..in fact she stays up late most nights watching movies and drinking, sleeps in all day, doesn't exercise or work out..is just lucky to have the face and body she has. Personality boring....but men fall at her feet and treat her like a goddess. I agree with your point..she is a loser. At some point once she has fallen from the tree of the desired she will grab some beta bucks branch on her way down and likely be taken care of the rest of her life...still being a looser. As you said, don't worship it, slay it when you can and just move the fuck on. They aren't unicorns..just pretty horses.

[deleted] · 2018-02-11T19:31:42+00:00

It looks like you are surrounded by idiots and you've become one as well.

Stolles · 2018-02-05T03:05:41+00:00

Pretty law student had a giant property law book under her arm so I asked "Does that book say anything about finders keepers?" She had never heard of it. So I said "you know, if I find something on the street, whose property is it?" She said "oh that's Tort law" Tort law is civil liability, suing McDonalds for too hot coffee.

This woman is in law school. Why?

tibikush2012 · 2018-02-05T12:38:05+00:00

"Hell, if a girl could intellectually challenge me I'm pretty sure there would be close to no attraction from my side."

Why is that? It is much more satisfying having an intelligent AND pretty plate/GF.... What the hell am I suppose to do with her between sex sessions if she is an empty jar?

Why are you not attracted to intelligent girls? I have an opinion why but I don't want to insult

BluepillProfessor · 2018-02-04T19:18:01+00:00

Ask a pretty girl- ANY pretty girl- a deep question about politics, cosmology, or history. Unless she is a politician or this is her "one trick" she will know nothing. Even if she is an Astronomer she will know NOTHING beyond her narrow range. She may be able to tell you all about Cepheid variables in the Triangulum Galaxy but she won't know a Black Hole from an Alpha particle (except the Alphas somehow make her tingle while the Beta particles don't do much for her). She may be able to tell you about 14th Century Victorian England but she won't know a thing about the Battle of Jutland.

Even the most accomplished woman is absolutely a one trick pony.

My wife is a ridiculously highly paid Business Lawyer and knows the federal tax code inside and out and backwards and forwards. Beyond that? Well, she can recite every character and all the relationships between every house and every character in Game of Thrones- which is really quite impressive- but not exactly a sign of a well rounded intellectual.

redd_reality · 2018-02-05T01:27:33+00:00

Girls are losers

Only because in your nievity you compare women to male standards of success.

By that logic, you're an ugly fucking ogre. I mean, compared to the vast majority of women, it's true. So am I, even despite my chiseled jaw line.

The bitter beta loves to criticize women regarding them as inferior males in intellect, strength, integrity and honor. And while this is true, generally, it points to one MASSIVE flaw the bitter beta might want to take note of asap.

Before you can truly game women, game society and game other men, you have to actually apply TRP. TRP is an objective lens. You must view women for what and who they are, you must view beta men for what and who they are and (arguably) most importantly, you must view alpha men for what and who they are.

Beta men, women and alpha men are not comparable to one another. Clearly all three live by and are judged by different standards.

So stop hating on women for not being alpha men. Believe me, you wouldn't want women to be alpha men, because they would be extremely masculine and use your beta ass as a punching bag - kind of how every single movie produced frames every female character in 2018; but I digress.

A more productive pursuit would be hating on yourself for not being an alpha man, but that wouldn't be a very good post, would it?

Another more productive pursuit would be to write a post criticizing women for not living up to feminine standards, as that is their imperative.

LouisSeaGays · 2018-02-06T12:35:50+00:00

The fact you gaf makes you the biggest loser of them all.

tolerantman · 2018-02-06T17:46:19+00:00

The ugly girls have even less personality than the pretty girls, ugly girls join together on mobs composed of only ugly girls and they all think the same and do the same stupid shit, and are always bitter and angry about everything.

[deleted] · 2018-02-07T04:08:56+00:00

I've never met a woman with an ounce of intellectual curiosity. They simply don't give a fuck. If they ever seem interested in something it is usually more of a social proof type thing.

lacinyc · 2018-02-07T08:46:56+00:00

I don’t know, this isn’t something I necessarily agree with. Granted I’ve met girls who get by on looks and looks alone, but I know plenty of girls who are attractive and still hugely productive in other aspects of their life - and not just by virtue of said looks, but also intellectually. It all depends on the social circles you reside in.

[deleted] · 2018-02-08T18:06:44+00:00

I don't disagree, but what makes you so amazing, "L0wD0g"?

You're good at making reddit posts.....?

enkae7317 · 2018-02-09T23:22:41+00:00

I know a girl who does basically nothing all day but watch TV dramas, go on facebook/instagram, and play with her dog.

She's a solid 8+.

It's quite hilarious if you think about it.

drkinferno72 · 2018-02-05T00:35:35+00:00

She only loses when she's forced to settle

Cross_De_Lena · 2018-02-05T08:20:50+00:00

Nice observation.

Just listen to their conversation when they meet with their girlfriends. Only gossip.

diMT-13 · 2018-02-05T15:21:19+00:00

Mate I think it’s a strange loophole you’re manipulating yourself into. If all you want is casual sex, then do make sure that you keep someone intellectually stimulating because otherwise, well, you are who you surround yourself with, and this is no jokes. You also seem to have a strange relationship with what accounts as the perfect female for you, by seemingly despising and thinking as inferior the very type you seem to lust after, a conflict which, if left unchecked, may lead to problems down the line. Thirdly, your knowledge is sourly limited, by I don’t know what interaction. I’ve seen loads of pretty females with actual personalities, but then again you don’t seem to be interested in those.

Lambdal7 · 2018-02-05T11:28:13+00:00

Yes there are some women like that, but this theory fails for any law, business, medical, science student pretty much, which are a significant portion of women.

Andgelyo · 2018-02-04T21:34:37+00:00

Girls are fucking losers. Most guys are fucking losers. All we can do is keep fighting to become the top 10% (not even 20% to me) of men.

Jonlife · 2018-02-05T03:02:37+00:00

All they have to offer is pussy and headaches. At least before they used to make you a sandwich in between bitching

Lateralanouncer · 2018-02-05T07:00:44+00:00

An attractive woman has no biological reason to perform in any way. She can have a shit personally and be a broke ass bitch so long as she doesn’t hit the wall to hard will be fine. This is where the red pill has it correct, men have a biological reason to be the best we can. Strive in all areas of our live. if we don’t we will hit 30-40 and be nothing. No body will help you. Only u can help yourself.

DickyDurbin · 2018-02-04T23:10:49+00:00

Takeaway here is be a winner

[deleted] · 2018-02-05T05:08:36+00:00

Oh yes. Dear Lord have I seen this all too often.

victor_knight · 2018-02-05T05:38:04+00:00

Some would argue that self-improvement, in itself, is a myth.

[deleted] · 2018-02-05T06:02:55+00:00

The key is to find a girl that can offer more. The issue is that beauty and intelligence are usually an inverse relationship.

CommunistFesto · 2018-02-06T00:27:42+00:00

Wow. This boosted my confidence a whole lot! XD

[deleted] · 2018-02-06T02:06:54+00:00

Good post, one thing I realized when learning the red pill was that you should have the mindset of women needing YOU and never the other way around. And it's true, bitches are pretty and all but in the end they NEED men

HandsomeCub · 2018-02-06T23:46:29+00:00

They're not your possessions.

This means no relationship security. You cannot depend on women like things you own. You can depend on yourself, because you own yourself. This prescribes seeing women as auxillary to your life, like a dessert you can live without if need be. Most importantly, us men and our male sexuality dont get to be possessed, if we are to play by the same rules.

This feels very MGTOW. Awesome post!

-Tepes · Wed Feb 7 10:48:41 2018 UTC

I was with you. And I would put it as Shes just another Girl, Just Another Little Slut Likely. Always One Around the Corner

Nothing more, nothing less. They're not your possessions.

Not My Possessions? Sounds like a CUCK thing to say.
Do I want a gutter whore or a water slide as my Possession? No.
A lot of guys here got their end game as the older Marriage type of deal or in back of their mind, the white picket fence and all that shenanigans.

Far as I am concerned, man is king, his possession is whatever he wishes, Its this recent liberal post WW2 shits that gotten to ya folks, Even if its a Water Slide of the conquered tribes who were too weak and open, as society today in west is, crumbling.

One mans Garbage, Another Mans Treasure

There will always be some cuck to take her in till there isn't any.
Most guys are just a BJ away from going Beta Bucks.

So wise up fellas. She better be your possession if you want to start something with her, and dont you go around possessing aids ridden or cum dripping former cock carousel sluts or post wall chicks vice versa*

Its Just your Turn, YOU DONT WANT HER TO BE YOURS.
If its YOURS, Means You OWN It.
Usually Shes just another girl, dont take her seriously, most girls are just as big losers as the Betas they have to end up with. So always remember, there is always another around the corner long as you dont let her get too close to ya.

punkrockfishboy · 2018-02-08T00:02:46+00:00

The average woman is a ditz. Pretty girls are mostly for fucking.

Hugh_Munghous · 2018-02-08T00:23:55+00:00

I’m always blown away by the fact that women never really seem to have any hobbies. Granted not all men have hobbies, but it seems like most do. When you ask a woman what she likes doing (watching movies, hanging out with friends, going out, etc.) you rarely get anything that resembles an actual cultivated interest. Though sometimes if you’re lucky you get some bullshit answer like “photography,” i.e. taking pictures of tree leaves.

ptdorf · Fri Feb 9 2:43:48 2018 UTC

All women are "losers" because they want to. They crave that.

Due to how their brains are hardwired, their decision process is so intense that they really just need a man to step up and put his foot down so they can relax. So they can return to be their natural, vulnerable selves. They want to maintain some sort of pseudo control, mostly over the fluffy things. But they really want the man to do the heavy lifting.

Even successful women in power jobs want to come home to a guy that will shoulder the responsibility.

[deleted] · 2018-02-09T13:24:45+00:00

Most of the guys i know at least have a hobby or field of interest, while the girls entire lives revolve around stupid memes, instagram pics, tv shows, etc. No skills, no goals, no interest in knowledge or learning, just 'ooh, drag race is on' or 'aaron paul had a baby'.

emptythatcup · 2018-03-28T07:40:29+00:00

I assume if you are only surrounded by unproductive, unmotivated except nice looking girls whose sole focus is their looks, then it's easy to come to this conclusion that girls are shallow. but this can pretty much apply to both genders, it's not that girls are shallow, it's the people you surrounded yourself with, that you interact mostly with, makes you come to this conclusion. my point being that if you find yourself seeing nothing worthy of most girls other than their looks, maybe you should consider surround yourself with different groups of people. and of course, doing this is not an easy thing, you need to improve yourself first, heighten your socio-economic level, before you can get into that high-functioning group of people. that's if that's what want, to see behind your current limitation, to not be bored by the low-valued people you now are confined to.

hugaddiction · 2018-02-05T10:39:58+00:00

I agree with a lot of this, but imo, its harder as a guy to truly understand this and live by it, than it is to read it and technically understand it. Until you see first hand through experience the extent of how meaningless their lives are in their 20's, you can't really see them for who they are.

Outside of partying, looking good, basic mindless entertainment in the form of tv, magazines, and spending money, you will not find much more going on. And generally the more interesting they are, the less attractive they are, because at some point they realized in order to get male attention they were going to have to develop interest in a male interest category, or a skill that they were good at and would set them apart from other women in the SMP.

A great way to remind yourself of how much depth a girl is lacking, log onto her instagram. If its full of travel photos and activities and friends, she has some substance, if its full of selfies and pictures of her doing things in her normal life, then she is self centered and has nothing going for her other than her looks.

waldo888 · 2018-02-04T23:36:12+00:00

except that nearly every single girl gets to reproduce and only like 75% of men do. So I guess if success is having some worldly knowledge you can lord over them then ya , men are gods. hahahaha

hdosnxbjdjeb · 2018-02-05T04:10:50+00:00

All we have to do now is be attractive enough and fucking LIFT to get the hot girl

[deleted] · 2018-02-05T16:14:11+00:00

Had a chuckle at the water slide part. Very valuable observations, great post.

DR_JDUBZ · 2018-02-05T00:01:32+00:00

If I ever have sex it will not be with a girl who has intelligence equivalent to that of a monkey (such a thing may as well be known as beastiality) or is so shallow as to think ghosting is an acceptable practice.

XanderS311 · 2018-02-04T22:51:19+00:00

The amount of times that I have listened to a conversation between two young women and wanted to vomit at the banality of it. This old adage has never been more apt:

Great minds discuss ideas Average minds discuss events Small minds discuss people

SickofUrbullshit · 2018-02-05T02:13:25+00:00

The world would be so much better if only men had power.

MeltFaceDude · 2018-02-06T19:49:17+00:00

You ain't ever getting laid, virgin.

Solodolo1795 · 2018-02-05T08:21:59+00:00

Then how the fuck most of you guys get past all the cringe? I can't even find a common ground while talking to a dumb girl, seems impossible for me.

BetaBitchBoy69 · 2018-02-05T09:39:01+00:00

Lmfao if you want a good example look at any social media...chicks will fucking set up photos to look sexy/cool/fun.... Then the beta comments come rolling in...they love the attention, but just in the form of likes and comments. The second said beta tries to directly contCt them they’re creepy!

bearinfoxhole · 2018-02-05T05:50:14+00:00

I have more respect for Harvey Weinstein than cunts and thots these days. At least, he delivered quality entertainment most of the time.