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Aggressive Betas are some of the most dangerous kinds of people in the world. Their frame is incredibly weak; they are the guys who go around looking to start a fight, especially against men who remind them of their own low SMV. They have years, sometimes even decades of experience being rejected by women in favor of Chad, but do not have the motivation, knowledge, desire, or intelligence to do what it takes to improve themselves to become Chad. The only way they can get pussy is either by paying for it (provision) or by committing violence against women who won't voluntarily give it up for them. Their poor looks, ignorance, weak social/financial status, and inability to get laid means they perceive themselves as basically having nothing to lose in the first place by getting their face fucked up, getting killed, or going to jail where their only option for a warm hole is another dude.

Post-wall women have seething contempt for young, beautiful women because they automatically lose to them in the competition for Chad's provision. This is because post-wall women truly cannot obtain higher SMV, no matter how hard they try. They cannot actually compete against pre-wall women in any way, so the only option left is that they necessarily must destroy the competition. You will not hear more intense slut shaming than the kind hurled at pre-wall women from post-wall women attempting to establish dominance in the female social matrix. Betas are even worse than them in this regard because men have far more control over their SMV than women do, so they have no excuse for being low SMV like post-wall women do. This is one of many reasons that women subconsciously recognize that beta males are lower on the totem pole than post-wall women (the social hierarchy being Alpha Males > Pre-Wall Women > Post-Wall Women > Beta Males > Children).

It naturally follows that since betas fall in between post-wall women and children on the social hierarchy, they tend to think less like men and more like post-wall women and children. Instead of rising to the challenge of competition by doing what it takes to improve their own SMV, they believe that instead their only option is to eliminate their competition: destroy Chad. Sometimes, Chad's mere high SMV presence is enough to provoke an aggressive beta to try to initiate a fight; other times, it's an imaginary perceived offense that Chad has committed against him such as "stealing" his oneitis. The latter is far more likely to provoke him than just about anything else.

Unlike the aggressive beta, Chad has a lot to lose by getting his face fucked up, going to jail, or getting killed. Women won't be attracted to his dentures from getting his teeth knocked out or the limp he walks with from getting his knee cap busted. He will not have access to his harem of women while he is in jail. His loaded bank account will be drained on medical bills, fines, legal fees, and his inability to get a job as a convicted felon. He will be evicted from his sweet bachelor pad and have to downgrade. Thus, the aggressive beta has succeeded in knocking Chad down on the social hierarchy.

Being muscular will act as a deterrent because people are way less likely to mess with a muscular dude. But even still, aggressive betas are a fact of life, and you will notice them more as your SMV improves. The only way to avoid letting them knock you down on the social hierarchy is by holding frame and refusing to engage them. If you have the choice, de-escalating a situation by leaving is almost always the superior option to fighting.

Unfortunately, sometimes a fight is still inevitable even when you don't start it, and for that you should be prepared by having some type of formal self-defense training. Do not be afraid to carry a gun and have formal concealed carry training as a last resort defense. And lift as if your life depended on it, because it does.

[–]Redpilledaccordingly235 points236 points  (13 children) | Copy

I have a story about aggressive betas, My friend Adam from ages ago invites me out town with his gf and buddy "Tom". We head out of town, and everybody is getting along, we chat shit and head to the nearest town outside ours to party. Soon as Tom catches a clear glimpse of me, he gets standoffish as hell and the entire atmosphere changes. I let loose and have a few too many to drink, and we invite girls to come over. Tom starts making snide remarks, mumbling something something "pretty boy" at me. I realize every girl there wants the dick, including my friend Adam's who suddenly thinks I am the funniest guy in the world after she spots a few girls hitting on me. Adam starts getting annoyed and hostile, and it was then I realized I did not fit in with these dudes. I turn it down a notch with the looseness and later that day as we're heading back home, Tom sporadically suggests we pull over and leave me on the highway to walk home. A good 38 miles. I was drunk as hell, so it all seemed a little fuzzy to me but Adam was laughing. Tom actually began slow the car down and proceed into the right lane.

"We're childhood buddies, remember Adam?" I hesitantly chuckle.

"Remember that time your mom chased us out of the neighborhood bro?"

Suddenly a moment of clarity hit him, and he told Tom to cut it out and we go back to our town. Now, I would've died if they actually left me stranded on a deserted highway, drunk off my ass, at 3:30 AM. Nobody can tell me that they were joking too, because the aura of the whole thing wasn't "jokey-jokey". Fuck betas.

[–]berapa 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

What's your relationship relative to Adam now?

[–]Redpilledaccordingly83 points84 points  (1 child) | Copy

We do not talk or communicate. Blocked him on social media and everywhere else.

[–]Eclectiqque12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

red pillwd accordingly then

[–]McRoddy92 points93 points  (1 child) | Copy

Holy fucking shit... i need to cut some niggas off cuz I know they have the ability to pull shut like this. Good on you for making it out unscathed.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nobody is trustable. The only person you can really, really count on is yourself. So put yourself ahead of everyone else.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

God, I had a "Tom" friend too. That dude was fucking pathetic. Still is too!

[–]Sumsar0114 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Happy i've always been a dick and selective with friends. These kind of people have never been able to get close to me. Since I've always looked down at them. (Even before TRP)

[–]SmilingWatermelon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Buddy, that is terrifying. I bet he would've left you if he could. Betas hate alphas. You showed him you were everything he isn't.

The only real issue with success is that you remind people of their inadequacy.

[–]Redpilledaccordingly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks man. I was a little hesitant to believe the horror stories of Alphas getting fucked over, attacked, and betrayed by betas. This shit is as real as it gets once you start experiencing it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Any real post wall shaming examples? Would like to see some

[–]tbonemcmotherfuck56 points57 points  (18 children) | Copy

This kinda shit usually happens at bars or wherever people are drinking. Bringing a gun out when your drinking is really stupid if ya ask me.

[–]ONE_Predator 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

It's also illegal to carry and drink

[–]theDukesofSwagger3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guess I’ll be having a Shirley Temple then.

[–]Aggressive_Beta[S] 7 points8 points  (14 children) | Copy

Depends on the state you live in

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy

Bringing a gun to a bar when going out drinking is stupid. What kind of life are you living if you feel the need to carry a gun to the bar for protection? Me thinks you have other shit in your life to get in order if that is something you are doing.

[–]Aggressive_Beta[S] 21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're totally right. Random gun violence doesn't happen anywhere, especially when alcohol is involved. If someone starts shooting, it's better to defenselessly hope that I and everyone I care about can make it to an exit and won't be a target. The police always show up in time to handle those situations anyway.

[–]Pynewacket2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

you dropped this "/s" good sir

[–]BornShook2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

If you are a responsible gun owner, and only a light/moderate drinker, why not carry all the time? Nobody wouldve questioned it 80+ years ago for sure. Why now? Because we've been programed with left wing propaganda that says guns are evil.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

That's one perspective that you have come to in your journey.

If you think that the right-wing, pro-gun propaganda isn't as strong or as insidious, you're being played.

I seem to be getting through life fine without owning guns.

[–]BornShook1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Good for you. I own three. Two were passed down to me as family airlooms, and one of them I bought myself for $100.

The right wing pro gun propaganda only exsists as a defense against lett wing anti gun propaganda. Nobody was threatening to take away guns from law abiding americans 100 years ago. Why now? It's unconstitutional.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Your thinking is close-minded and I mean that genuinely. Pro-gun propaganda is big business. Sell more guns. Pay out shareholders, Make money. Just like anything else, they sell you an image or ideal that you buy into and want to live up to. Whether you like to admit it or not, this is truth. My close, NRA member friends are even willing to admit this. If you think that pro-gun propaganda only exists as you describe above, that is foolish.

[–]BornShook0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I can agree with you on that to an extent. Gun companys obviously want to sell guns, and they do a lot of marketing (Propaganda as you like to call it). Its just like any other buisness wanting to sell products. Tell me how thats a bad thing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's only as bad as any other ideology taking hold of the way people think and go out into and view the world. It's structured the same as how feminism is structured, it's just a different point of contention. Get people really invested in a belief. Flood the echo chamber. Demonize those who disagree and completely write off other points of view.

That's how it works. That's how it's a bad thing. If I say I am anti-gun, you already have a disposition to write off anything I say. I'm an idiot, in your mind. A "libtard" and a commie who wants to come take your guns. Even though that's just one point of view I have, among infinite thoughts and ideas, people who are pro-gun and feed on propaganda will write me off entirely. That's foolish, but that's what it's designed to do, so it's successful.

[–]Damien_Scott0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not for the bar, it's for the trip home.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its easy to get a gun legal or illegal... some people just dont play fair. Ive had a gun pulled on me and it sure wasnt legal.

[–]trapaik98 points99 points  (0 children) | Copy

always see these kinda pussys at the club lol, usually looking for a fight around 2am when everyones leaving and they're going home without a bitch

[–]whoismikejoneswho52 points53 points  (1 child) | Copy

Small towns are the worst for this type

[–]Hang10Dude20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This guy knows. But those types are just too stupid to leave.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post!

I've never met a man who told me, "I wish I hadn't wasted all that time at the fight gym".

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points  (107 children) | Copy

you are right. Being muscular is a huge deterrent. But when you are only 5'8 with girly hands, what you can do?

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (21 children) | Copy

Boxing, kickboxing, Muay Thai, BJJ. Go check out some UFC fights. T. J. Dillashaw, for example -- dude is 5'7", 135 pounds. Conor McGregor is only 5'9", maybe 155.

Let them inspire you to find a local fight gym and get to work. Your height is something you can't change, so don't worry about it. Focus on what you can change. It's within your reach to develop the fitness and skills to, if not bring the pain, at least put up a good fight on your way down.

Good luck!

[–]LeftHookTKD19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Conor McGregor is only 5'9", maybe 155.

All these guys walk around 15-25 lbs more than their weight class

[–]Gr0o0vy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

everybody cuts at least 15-20 lbs except for few guys and most of the HWs

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (8 children) | Copy

While I do believe that good body language, a shaved head and some muscles can make a huge difference, fighting won’t make you intimidating at all . Look at Anderson Silva, if you don’t watch mma or combat sports, you would literally think he’s some skinny fat dad who you could fuck up anyday.

Martial arts are great for your confidence , and when you know what you’re doing and you competed once or twice no average bro will intimidate you.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, that's true, actual skills, cardio, and agility don't look scary.

To your point, here's a couple funny stories from Donald "The Cowboy" Cerrone about a pair of dumb fucks who had no idea who they were fucking with:


[–]LordDongler8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Is "if I were trying to kill him he would be dead" a legal defense for this?

[–]throwawayPzaFm5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The legal defense is "I want to speak to my lawyer"

[–]kaane4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Martial arts are great for your confidence , and when you know what you’re doing and you competed once or twice no average bro will intimidate you.

Yes you might still be small, but the mental toughness is still going to be there. If I have to choose between being a muscular body builder and a thin MMA fighter, I would definitely pick the latter.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Do both unless you want to compete in one. Strength is a huge advantage in grappling

[–]ARealBlueFalcon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Strength is tough in grappling. If you are not careful, you can lose mobility and cardio from lifting too much.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Strength doesn’t mean bad mobility. Strength training without proper mobility is a one way ticket to snap city .

Remember that you don’t get a strong deadlift from just doing deadlifts, you ll have to use stiff legged deadlifts or deficits to not stall , same goes for overhead press and pressing in general . All of those exercises require good mobility.

And trust me , a strong deadlift /squat with a strong chin up makes for the most violent doubles and high crotches and you’ll still finish most takedowns when you’re a retard who can’t set up anything and you have the worse timing.( I m talking from personal experience here).

[–]ethan125257 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

i see this misunderstanding a lot. fighters cut weight (water) temporally for there weigh in. but the next day they rehydrate.

Mcgregor reportedly from trainer weighted in at 167 when he entered the ring to fight mayweather. Still not huge like a bodybuilder but definatly not small.

[–]banjew1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

dude is 5'7", 135 pounds. Conor McGregor is only 5'9", maybe 155.

There's a reason fights are separated by weight. McGregor would have a very hard time against an opponent 50 lbs heavier.

The same in real life, you don't fight a guy much bigger than you, you will lose.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

McGregor would have a hard time with another professional fighter 50 pounds heavier, sure. I don't think some 220 lb. Joe Nobody in a bar would stand stand much of a chance against him, though.

[–]banjew-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Obviously not. But at the same level of training, weight trumps.

But it takes a lot of training to overcome a 50 lbs difference. And also you need the correct training. Many tae-kwon-do black belts will get swooped by an untrained opponent. A BJJ black belt or even blue-belt have a big chance against a bigger opponent, up until his buddy shows up.

I remember an informal rule in BJJ, every belt you go up, it gives you an equivalent 10 kg advantage. But also every 10 years you get old, it gives you a 10 kg disadvantage.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

OK, might as well stay home and play COD and eat potato chips, I guess.

[–]banjew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No. But if you want to fight a bigger men, grab a steel pipe.

[–]NavyBlueCrow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what is the best if you are like 5'8 and 165 lbs?

[–]102117991070 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Question for you on the MMA part. I lift heavy(powerlifting but don't compete) so numbers on the bar is nr 1 priority. I never learned how to fight, can you use MMA training as a supplement or do you have to dedicate a shit ton of time to it?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sure! You can just replace some of your cardio with it (or add it in place of the cardio you've been meaning to do). Like anything, the more you put into it, the more you get out, but even two hours a week could help a lot, and it's more fight training than most people ever get.

Money's another issue. Most gyms will give you one free class, then have you on some kind of unlimited plan that will let you do all their group classes for a fixed price monthly. If you have a lot of choices in your area, you might want to try out the free classes at several gyms before you decide on one.

Especially when you're getting started, some extra money and time spent on one-on-one training will give you a big boost, but the cost can add up fast. I would avoid signing any long-term contracts. Also, be aware that a lot of gyms will want you to pay by automated credit card or bank draft, and you should read the terms of how to cancel. It's not uncommon to see some kind of requirement for 30 days notice to cancel, which basically boils down to them dinging your card one more time.

Good luck -- I hope you find a good spot to train.

[–]Jebebo 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I dunno dude, I met this guy at a concert in the moshpit who was shorter than me (I’m 5’9) but he was so jacked that he was still tossing everyone around. Granted it takes more muscle for a short guy to be intimidating but it’s not impossible. Have you seen the dwarves from LOTR? haha

[–]SonOfSparda30413 points14 points  (12 children) | Copy

takes more muscle for a short guy to be intimidating

Say again? I'm 6'3" 180lbs mostly muscle but in most clothes I still look skinny as shit due to long arms and legs. A 5'8" guy of the same weight would have much thicker looking muscles.

[–]Oppressions10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Any 6'3" 180 guy will look skinny and lanky. That's not a limb proportion thing.

[–]1Entropy-72 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

BMI 22.5. That won't look big unless you are very low BF% and shirtless, or standing right next to someone. That's basically half a foot taller than an average guy.

[–]SonOfSparda3040 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much exactly this. Most clothing doesn't show it well either except for a fitted suit.

[–]SonOfSparda3040 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah now that I've hit that mark I'm bumping up my weight goal. Need to cut a little fat around my belly too so I'm not sure how to handle both simultaneously. Bunch of guys I know are doing keto but they're trying to lose weight for BJJ not bulk up muscle.

I'll probably just keep trying to build and avoid eating wings every week.

[–]allyoursmylove2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

i thought that too lol, but what i think he meant was that even though tall guys will look skinnier, people subconsciously think theyre "bigger" no matter what, unless you were like 6'3" and 130lbs.

you seen those insanely jacked short people? thats exactly how people view them: insanely jacked SHORTsmallittybitty people. people think theyre compensating, and they are in a sense.

[–]SonOfSparda3040 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At one point I was 6'3" 130 lbs. When I started college I was 120. Started lifting and bulking my junior year and it's been steady progress ever since.

[–]102117991070 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Just personal opinion you might look better if you were more 205lbs range or so. When I get to 220lbs I feel like a skinny fucker with cancer.

[–]SonOfSparda3040 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I think you're right. I'm still pretty young so my metabolism hasn't slowed much yet. It takes time for me to gain weight and I have to put a lot of effort into eating enough of the right stuff, as well as timing it around my workouts.

Trying to get back into that routine now that I'm not half-marathon training anymore.

[–]102117991070 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's pretty simple. Go on a program like SS, add in some arm work after about 2months and calculate your macros to have 600 - 800 calory surplus. You'll gain minimal fat while getting strong as fuck.

[–]N1CK_0F_T1ME19 points20 points  (13 children) | Copy

Saw a 5"8' dude at the gym the other day deadlifting 610 lbs. Pretty sure he would wreck any guy in the gym.

[–]SecureIngenuity16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy

And a 6'4 dude who has never touched a weight in his life will still get more attraction from women and respect from other men. Go figure.

[–]ThreeTierTiger 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I’m 6’6 and I’m reasonably good shape (muscular shirtless but look lean in clothes) and I definitely don’t get the attention that muscular shorter guys get. I’m sure there are a zillion other issues to diagnose, but height isn’t an automatic.

[–]allyoursmylove9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

heights a complementary thing. if youre ugly, height becomes a negative attribute (ie. tall and wonky and crooked), but on the flipside if youre good looking and tall, it becomes "tall and handsome".

[–]1Entropy-72 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The tipping point is maybe 6'2" or 6'4". In the SMP there is such a thing as being too tall.

[–]1Entropy-70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The tipping point is maybe 6'2" or 6'4". In the SMP there is such a thing as being too tall.

[–]SKRedPill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not such a problem for shorter Asians as Asian women are also proportionately shorter -- but to tell you the truth, there's one thing that matters so much more than height, it's your hair!

[–]Damien_Scott0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Truth. If you're like me and started balding at 17, buzz or shave your head. I get so many more looks after bizzing my hair. Combined with a full, short beard it really comes together. Best part is that I can do all the grooming myself.

[–]SKRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The good news is that today we can do a lot for our hair. And hair anxiety is a real thing, because if you've got the baldness gene, your hair is going to hit the wall (the only part of the male body that will, you muscles can be strong even at 80-90).

A good hairstyle is significantly attractive and the most significant passive form of attraction for a man.

1) Scalp exercises. Cardio. Do not allow sweat and dust to accumulate on the scalp. Lots of water. Sleep. Meditate. Get enough protein and fix all micronutrient deficiencies (calcium, vitamins, iron, magnesium, etc...).

2) Warm oil massages in the scalp before showering. Mild shampoos, ketacanozole shampoo, or natural stuff like shikakai powders.

3) A good barber and hairstyle. A dense head of hair can add as much as 2 inches to your height.

4) Hair transplants. In some places like India, there are good clinics (e.g. Medispa, Enhace, Dermaspa) that can do it for like $2000, if you want medical tourism (cause medical costs in the US are insane as fuck).

5) Hair systems (non surgical). Actually in Asia it's cheaper to get a transplant than one of these....

For god's sake, none of that DHT inhibiting finasteride, etc! They've made quite a few guys I know suffer from ED and impotency.

Some people look better with buzz cuts or bald, but it might not suit everyone. If anyone's looking for a hair transplant and can afford it, do it before you get to Norwood 3 or 4 at max. Bald guys must need good muscles to compensate.

Hair ain't no substitute for game, muscles, or status or wealth or clothes, but in Asia it matters as Asians have a lot more hair density on average and bald much later in life.

And before JBY guys come to rationalize this, just note - the world's most attractive men have all worked on their hair. Actors (nearly all of 'em), sports stars, royal families, businessmen (Elon Musk).

[–]Theophagist21 points22 points  (9 children) | Copy

5'8" ain't that goddamn short.

[–]Hviterev2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

As a 5'11" european, I feel tiny since I started viewing american videos.

[–]Throaw4y694 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Europeans are on average taller than americans

[–]Vortiya 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Not white Americans, just Americans as a whole. White Americans and Europeans are about the same height.

[–]Throaw4y690 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It seems immigrants catch up with a generation or two in terms of height why isnt this the case in america

[–]Vortiya 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Because Hispanic(Mestizo) people are genetically predisposed to being short. Most Hispanic people are 50% Spanish 50% native and native people are simply of a short stature genetically.

[–]Throaw4y690 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In the uk somali and north indian people can be quite all, mixed race people also seem to be taller. And obviously eastern europeans as well. I think however balkan immigrants are the tallest population in the uk.

[–]Theophagist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm just shy of 5'10" and I did have about a year of vexation when I finally became aware of the advantages tall men have with women and even thought myself inadequate for the 9's as a result. Since then I've largely forgotten about it.

I still chase and even occasionally score the girls who are so tall they have 2 sets of knees. A sex machine works just fine at any height.

[–]_the_shape_2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Many years ago, I had a friend 5'4", maybe 5'5" max, and 140 lbs at the most. Sure, he used to hit the gym quite regularly, but we're talking a very small dude here.

He used to love the "it's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog" line, and nothing described him better the few times shit actually went down. The guy was very cool, very civil, never looking to cause a fight, but if it ever made its way in his direction, he was all in, ready to tear off heads with his bare hands if that's what it took.

What I'm getting at really is that this is ultimately a mindset, a pathos, a gear within that you can shift into if the situation calls for it. Learn how to cultivate this attitude - that's what you do.

[–]Damien_Scott0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Chihuahua man. Here to bite the ankles of villains and protect the skirt hems of women everywhere.

[–]Sumsar012 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get above 200 pounds like everyone else.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Try Judo or Brazilian Ju Jujitsu... they teach u throws, groundwork and submissions. A good throw and snack on the concrete can end a fight quick... and being shorter is an advantage for thst...

[–]alxjones[🍰] 17 points18 points  (22 children) | Copy

pack heat

exercise those rights :)

[–]qx475820 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

90% of the spergs talking shit in this thread aren’t responsible enough to own a potted cactus, let alone a gun.

[–]TheLoneProspector3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is this thread serious? Stfu

[–]EhzmwGGh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not about the height, I have met 5'6 biker at the club and he had really menacing presence.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ido portals 30 day hanging challenge. Ive never had bigger arms/back/chest/shoulders than after i finished that challenge. Make sure to eat enough protein... this is a high-calorie demanding challenge. Turkey and veggies only pretty much. Theres no room for any bitch foods like donuts and cereals, you just wont survive on that shit with this challenge. Your stomach actually wont even be able to handle donuts and sweets or fast food on this workout, it'll be like what in the fuck are you feeding me?

[–]RavelsBolero-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

That doesn't change much. Just carry on as everyone else here does

[–]1Captain_Save_A_Hoe_-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You just laid out a oxymoron. Muscular people dont have twig arms and i suggest getting big traps. They make you a lot more intimidating.

[–]SKRedPill59 points60 points  (9 children) | Copy

This subset of the male species usually ends up as a rapist.

[–]AsianGurlsHawt53 points54 points  (8 children) | Copy

Maybe anecdotal but there seems to be a correlation between male feminists and being a sexual predators or pedophile.

[–]SKRedPill16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

You should read "No more Mr. Nice Guy" for an explanation

The aggressive beta has no game or charm, or is ignorant of it. He has frustrations with himself and has pent up resentment and anger towards women -- the result of pedestalizing them. He may also be lacking personal power in his own life. A lot of "artifically suppressed religious guys" fall into this category -- these are usually the cases with the shadiest backstories.

You also find them raging in internet comments. There may be issues with their fathers as well.

Red pill guys usually deal with this anger phase, the anger mainly because they know they've been lied to (and trust is important for a man). These betas never do.

The result is that they end up acting out in rather destructive ways. Many rapists at the bottom of it are like this.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy

Sargon of Akkad made a really good video showing multiple examples of male feminists abusing women in some way.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_20166 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Leftists always project.

Usually overcompensating for deep internal flaws. In this case they hold deep misogynistic thoughts due to years of rejection and become male feminist evangelicals to compensate.

[–]eccentricrealist16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

I also know a gay feminist communist who used to beat his boyfriend

[–]theDukesofSwagger2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Took me a sec to dissect that.

[–]eccentricrealist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I couldn't make this shit up 😂

[–]AHumilationADay29 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think this post has the right idea, but really fails to make points worth reading.

To be constructive, I'd insert means of de- escalation from an alpha standpoint, take a bit more of a scientific look at the aggressive beta mindset, and how to handle police interactions.

My two pennies, cheers mate.

[–]mechz213 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


I'm here reading comments trying to look out for strategies and shit so that I can use it when the day comes

[–]AkorTheKing37 points38 points  (4 children) | Copy

Guys, I'm improving, but sometimes I do this. I actually do this quite often. A lot of the time when people better than me say something I try to mock/verbally harass them. Probably because I think that by insulting them I lower their value, and increase mine consequentially. I will try from now to shut the fuck up. Ty for this post.

[–]dingman5820 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gotta recognize your shitty behavior before you can eliminate it

[–]FinallyRed4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're here acknowledging it and that's the first step. Maybe consider going monk mode so you're not shitting on other people while you change your perspective.

One thing to keep in mind is that other peoples' success isn't taking anything from you in any real sense. The competition is so low these days there is plenty to go around for the top.

[–]positivecrystal9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The worst kind of person tbh lol

[–]earthmother92[🍰] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop this pathetic behaviour.

[–]the-old-right 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Children > Beta Males

Children say true things without realizing it. Beta perspectives are worthless.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

children are definitely more superior to betas. sometimes you can witness children owning a beta faggot at family outings or other social gatherings. its amusing.

[–]jizzledfreq7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I met two last year at work and ironically they followed similar patterns:

1.) First guy invited me over to smoke weed with him and his fiance who was also a coworker. Things we're OK for the first two weeks, their relationship imploded, and I attempted at first to be friends with both of them because they seemed cool, but he got extremely possesive, began accusing me of wanting to fuck her, then attempted to hook me onto ridiculous arguments to which I just blocked his #, he even later wanted to be friends (and a few days ago sent me a facebook friend request), but I can't be friends with insecure men.

2.) Guy #2 was the coworker Guy #1's fiance rebounded with. At first he was cool with me, and it lasted all but a week as he too got extremely insecure and accused the girl of fucking me on the down low, when the reality was me and her were more interested in simply smoking some weed, getting drunk, and having a good time.

Me and the girl worked in the same department, and when you spend 10 hours at your job together, and another 2-3 outside of work, it's only natural that two people would develop some sort of bond.

It kind of sucks because I'm 6'6" tall, and biracial so I believe it evokes some sort of inferiority complex in certain men who are short, thin, or both. It just makes me realize there are a lot of insecure men out there.

[–]quijbo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

when the reality was me and her were more interested in simply smoking some weed, getting drunk, and having a good time

The story regarding guy #2 is very odd. I have never witnessed or been in a 'just friends' relationship with the opposite sex where at least one person didn't end up wanting the relationship to be more. I also cannot imagine being in a relationship with a girl who likes to spend hours getting fucked up with another guy. Joe Rogan does a stand up bit about those types of relationships and it's spot on. The oddest part is that you could tolerate spending 12-13 hours with a broad that you aren't even fucking. Like, why would anyone do that to themselves? Chicks can't even tolerate each other for that long.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

"And lift as if your life depends on it, because it does".

Truth in its purest form. Even if you never have to fight, your survival in the sexual marketplace is largely dependant on how much muscle you have and your ability to fuck anyone up at any time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

i disaggree . with your sentence ( not with the line above thats correct , it does liftin = all ) but

you sound like men who are like the mountain or 6´6 +++ giants are more desireable than the handsome 6´4 jock .

after u enter freak tier at 6´6+ your not gonna increase your value just cause u look more intimiadating .

otherwise those freaks where sex idols bruthish ogres

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

also hardcore steroid user looks way more intimidating than the lean natural jock

[–]conflagratorX5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is expected outcome in the society where 20% men have sex with 80% of women. You cannot just tell the lower 80% to men up and improve as it won't change pareto principle and will result in even higher standards to qualify for 20% top men. It is not a surprise that such lack of balance causes aggression.

[–]CapnRonRico13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see good looking young guys willing to throw everything away & generally they are more agressive due to more testosterone flowing through them than an unconditioned person who has a weak jawline.

I have never been what you would call attractive but I do not put people in boxes so that it fits with my way of thinking.

The most common trait of a weaker socially awkward guy is either "this is life, I am going to make the most of it" or they tend to practice huge amounts of passive agressive behaviour.

Courage or fearlessness , which is the behaviour described here is not prevalent in weaker males because they have grown up knowing if they go head to head with a stronger, bigger guy, they will end up more hurt than the other guy.

I do not see the behaviour you state in weaker guys. I see a lot of chest puffing & dramatic behaviour.

A weaker guy is more likely to use a weapon though & I am always cautious of the social outcast with a slight build and look of contempt in his eyes because I do not want to be the one that pushes him over the edge.

I try and be polite and friendly to everyone I meet.

[–]BobbyPeru3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Amused mastery and agree and augment works well with an aggressive beta. They don’t know how to handle it.

[–]2awalt_cupcake5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

this isn't good advice. I've had two too many encounters with betas who took my A & A and went literal. Angry literal. And just enough people were on the hate-train that they made me out to look bonkers. Betas in packs are evil.

[–]toughguyoninternet13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ok, I know this sounds like total pseudo science, but I really like term omega male for them which is lower than beta. Basically he is so low in status, that he has nothing to lose. Omegas are correlated with violent outbursts like shooting sprees because of their total rejection by women. Taken from here: http://en.wikimannia.org/Omega_male

[–]redd_reality0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're right.

The beta male is simply a follower. There are many followers who still improve themselves daily. Further, every alpha chad we see in society is a beta in many of his social circles. For instance, the jacked, shredded dude is the gym alpha, but at his new job, his is a submissive beta to guys that would be his beta, if they went to his gym.

The Omega is that out cast. The one who isn't willing to be the beta to any alpha, because he so full of bitterness and resentment. Insecurity is what makes an Omega out of a beta.

[–]Compeliminator3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I must admit i have a good percentage beta bob in me

[–]CapnRonRico2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most of us do & by that I mean all men.

[–]notonlyplace16 points17 points  (20 children) | Copy

Chad has a lot to lose by getting his face fucked up, going to jail, or getting killed.

Chads fight all the time, chads are very aggressive, and chads will fuck you up, life isn't fair, but let's not act as if chad is some moral becon, I will prefer a angry beta bob, to a angry chad any day

[–]CoolCarnivore 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I read Chad as the idealized version of ourselves we’re all trying to become, not as an actual person. The guy who pulls like a Chad you’d know in real life, but has his shit together on all levels.

We all know examples of those guys who exhibit some risk taking behavior and aggressiveness and end up doing okay with women in spite of their other glaring faults.

[–]notonlyplace8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

The guy who sleep with the girl is chad, the guy who buys the girl dinner and gets a hug at the end of the night is beta bob.

The girl who complains that her husband is bad in bed, is beta bob, the girl who says her sex life is amazing is with chad.

That is all chad and beta mean, chads don't always have their shit together, some do some don't. You don't need to have your shit together to get women, and having your shit together doesn't mean you will get women.

[–]GutShot9 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

That's your opinion. Personally I go with the idea of Chad as the top <5% of men who have their shit together on all levels. Not just a guy who gets girls. If you're past the beginner stage of TRP you'll realize getting girls is relatively easy.

[–]Cos_7_ate_92 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

To me this seems like you're trying to reintroduce fairness into the concept of Chad when one of the main things about Chad is how unfair his success is by traditional measures. One of the first lessons of the red pill is realising how uncorrelated having your shit together can be to sexual success. The dude blowing his college degree by partying is still Chad, the good looking alcoholic working in McDonalds is still Chad, the guy making six figures who can't understand why his girlfriend would cheat on him is not.

Lastly Chad in this sense is describing a specific concept that is difficult to describe otherwise, Chad in the sense you're using could be 'ideal man' or 'winner' or whatever.

[–]GutShot9 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Reread the statement you are replying to and resumbit.

[–]Cos_7_ate_90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Chad is the guy who gets the girls. You attaching the top 5% man requirement is just missing the point. A blue pill dude will have the exact same definition of success as you he just won't call it 'Chad'.

[–]Papiless0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, well put. Being attractive is a lot of things. One of them is having the courage to do things that others do not. Fighting is one of these things. Evolutionary reasons for these are too evident to explain. Why are muscles sexy? OP is just way off.

This is purple pill knowledge at best.

[–]YeezusIsGod1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chad sounds a lot like Tyler Durden

[–]Papiless0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I understand you. But if you are looking for advice on sexual strategy - morals have nothing to do with it. This used to be a sub discussing what girls respond to, not ideal scenarios.

Girls love violence. It creates drama. High T guys generally are more aggressive aswell and girls are attracted to high T males during ovulation. Sure, you SHOULD focus on redirecting your aggression towards your career. But guys that showcase their aggression in a more primal way get pussy as well - because the female brain is the same now as ever.

[–]Reformed65 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

  1. Chads don't fight all the time.

  2. Unless you're some skinny weakass kid/teen and you're up against the bully Chad Jr, or you live in a dodgy neighbourhood, Chad isn't going to come up to you and start a fight. Chad doesn't care about you unless you're in his way, but Bob himself will get in your way.

  3. OP never said Chad is a good guy.

  4. Yeah, I prefer nobody to be angry but that's just me.

[–]notonlyplace0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

1) Not all Chads fight and those that do don't fight all the time.

Correct, but not all beta's fight either, My entire point is to point out Beta fight about the same rate as chad.

Chad isn't going to come up to you and start a fight. Chad doesn't care about you unless you're in his way, but Bob himself will get in your way.

Nice guy 2.0, your putting moral annotation into sexual strategy, chad and beta bob will get in your way if it suits them. Chad just gets women, beta bob doesn't, they are still both humans.

I know good beta's, and good chad's. In fact some of the nicest people I know are chad's, you can be nice and get women, and you can be a piece of shit and get women.

3) OP never said Chad is a good guy.

yes but let's not act as if he is a safer person to be around.

4) Yeah, I prefer nobody to be angry but that's just me.

Likewise, In fact I think most people don't prefer angry to happy

[–]Papiless0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Yeah this is the truth. Having the ability and being fearless enough to be able to engage in fights is what alphas do. What does OP think "bad boy" means? Someone with game? lmao. No, girls love the drama that comes with confrontational men who respect themselves.

A lot of this is beta-hamstering. Being alpha and being beta is not the same as being morally good or being morally bad.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

unaattractive betas dont have anything to lose mate thats not alpha . to suckerpunch a good looking guy cause he kiss your onetitis. or try to fight him honestly just cause u do mma for 10 years .

obv a broken nose is shit for a good looking men

[–]Papiless0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Being good looking is not the same as being alpha bro. Girls love bad boys, bad boys engage in fights if necessary.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

alpha is good looking + masculine , no one cares about the confident manlet

height face frame , + behavior

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

or insane personality not 0815

[–]Papiless0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fighting is masculine behaviour, whether you like it or not

[–]CapnRonRico-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some common sense right here.

[–]showerdudes92 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

This post is scary because I know I've been that aggressive beta and I can even catch myself still be that person whenever theres a stronger/better alpha nearby. It has to be related to this innate competetive feelings that all men have. I do meditate a lot lately and it makes me much more at peace with knowing there are better men, will always be bigger, better and more chad-like men than me and I should compete against myself, improve myself.

Unlike most RP, I dont agree with competition towards others in life is healthy. Competition towards others in games, sports is obviously very healthy, but not in life, money or women as it'll only make you more miserable unless you're top 0.05%. Ive noticed that the times I dont give a flying fuck about others success (comparing it to my own) and instead just focusing 100% on myself and improving myself, I've done much, much better than when I am competing with others who are miles ahead of me in every aspect

[–]DSE961 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good comment, agree 100% with this

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to get this a lot, but then I started working out regularly and it happens less so now, even though I have no idea how to fight should the situation (hopefully not) arise. Like you said, I should probably learn self-defence through something like a martial art. Definitely something I'll consider in the future, though I'm good at defusing situations calmly with my mouth and most of the time I actually leave the aggressor with a positive impression of me as I try to look at things from his perspective and sympathise/empathise with him, and hopefully put them on a better life path.

Betas are like leeches that suck SMV out of other alphas so they can regurgitate it back on to "their" alpha in the hopes that he'll throw them a couple of 6s and 7s as scraps so they can actually get laid for once.

[–]RandyBumgardner8531 points32 points  (22 children) | Copy

I have a mate who is a genuine chad. The dude is 26, 6'6, 230lbs of muscle and so lean his abs are popping. He's never had to read up on any RedPill stuff but his height alone has given him so much access to pussy that he is a natural, cocky, arrogant Alpha. He has also recently spent 6 months training intensively for a charity boxing match.

He was out in a rough town far from home one night with his brother in law (Sam) they had gone down there to meet up with Sam's friend (Tom) for a night out. Tom is a deadbeat and brings along some deadbeat friends. One of the friends (Steve) is about 6"1 but not well built. Steve has brought his girlfriend along (Jenny). Jenny likes to flirt with guys in front of Steve when she is drunk.

All the deadbeat mates take a disliking to Chad early on in the night. Jenny obviously doesn't. As the night goes on and they all get more drunk Jenny is flirting with Chad more and more. Steve gets upset, starts an altercation and sucker punches Chad, breaking his lip. Chad does not respond. Steve then storms off in a huff. Jenny stays to hang out with Chad and Sam.

Later they are walking Jenny home and a car pulls up behind them. Steve and two others jump out and try to start an altercation. Chad still refuses to fight, Sam talks them down. They get back in the car, disappear and then reappear 5 minutes later in the same car but now with 5 guys. This time Chad says to Sam (who is 5'7, chubby with glasses) "ok fuck it we've got no choice."

Chad literally tears his T-shirt from his torso and proceeds to knock out all five men, with one shot each as they get out of the car. Both he and Sam kick anyone who tries to get back up. Steve, now bleeding from the face, drags himself clear and proceeds to lecture them about "not fighting fair" and "how dare you sucker punch a 40 year old man" from a safe distance. The altercation breaks up and they all go home.

We found out later from Tom that Steve and Jenny broke up after Steve went away, Jenny threw a party in his house, destroyed the place and fucked a guy in his bed.

This may sound like fantasy but it's a true story. I've known Sam for 15 years and he doesn't bullshit.

Don't be Steve.

[–]Jabbermouth80 points81 points  (10 children) | Copy

“Chad literally tears his T-shirt from his torso and proceeds to knock out all five men, with one shot each as they get out of the car.”

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

[–]hdosnxbjdjeb48 points49 points  (6 children) | Copy

This is something out of a cheesy action movie

[–]truedemocracy332 points33 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yea one thing that people who havent fought dont understand is that it is INCREDIBLY difficult for someone to take on multiple people, even if he is significantly stronger than the rest. Not saying it isn't impossible, especially if someone has formal training, but sounds like bs

[–]LordDongler13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

It was one at a time as they were getting out of a car though

[–]RandyBumgardner852 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chad is 6'6 which gives him significant reach. He is strong and knows how to punch. He dropped the first two as they got out of the car on his side, then dealt with the ones coming from the back, then the front. Sam was also helping keep the numbers at bay so after the first two went down it was 3 on 2. Now I wasn't there but this is how the story was relayed to me by Sam. He said he never fully appreciated the lethality of Chads reach and hitting power until he watched it in action.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

dude one weapon neglates any height or weight in a fight . lmao op is deluded

[–]Casanova-Quinn9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

It happens.

Keep in mind Chad is 26, 6'6, in shape, and trained in boxing. According the story, Steve is 40, normal height, out of shape, and untrained. The 4 deadbeat friends likely have the same stats as Steve. Not to mention he fought them one on one as they got out of a car, he wasn't surrounded.

[–]RandyBumgardner851 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Apparently after the first four were put out of action there was one short fat guy who wanted a go. Chad begged him to walk away, but he wouldn't have it so he took a fist to the jaw and a good kicking from both of them.

I try to stay out of fights but part of me wishes I had been there to witness it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I've seen people remove their shirts just before getting into fights. Something to do with giving the opponent less to grab onto. As for the rest... he was training and had a great reach advantage, plus they were all drunk. So, it could have happened.

[–]CasualCocaine8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

That ending was heart warming

[–]avocadowithsalt1230 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

"We found out later from Tom that Steve and Jenny broke up after Steve went away, Jenny threw a party in his house, destroyed the place and fucked a guy in his bed."

Now, a question. Does she think she would ever do this to a guy she sees as alpha? In my book, alphas WILL do a revenge or get to you in some other way.

I personally dont mind her throwing a party and fucking another guy,bitches will be bitches. Only we break up after that naturally.

But for doing it in my bad after destroying my place...well she would pay for it in the way she would not forget.

[–]RandyBumgardner856 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

"Alphas will do a revenge" No. An alpha would just ditch her and move on. An alpha has no need to feed his ego with petty tit for tat shit with dumb sluts.

Alphas also do not LTR dumb sluts.

[–]avocadowithsalt123-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

You live in a Disneyland mate. I dunno maybe its different in USA but rest of the world she would get fucked up, Id really like to see how her stunt works with latino, black, or slavic guys.

No man fucks my woman in my bed, never, without consequences. Period.

Also, alphas ltr good chicks youre right; they become hoes later.

[–]RandyBumgardner853 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I live in neither Disneyland nor the USA.

Out of interest, how would "the rest of the world" get revenge on her?

[–]avocadowithsalt1230 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well you sound like only alpha you have ever seen is some imaginary trp guy. Are you aware chicks also date dangerous guys? Not only college boys.

Id say revenge depends on who is she, how well you are connected, etc. But I can say what she pulled on this guy is pure psycho move intented to scare someone and I am one of the guys who wont let psychos or narcs get away with their nasty shit.

Maybe report her for organizing party at his place? Add in some drugs at party she organized? Sue because property damage? Maybe during her final exams so she has to attend court and therefore fail exams?

[–]HappyMexican0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is probably not like this in say "Saudi Arabia", but Modern West countries, we have very little power to "Handle her". Just more court costs, property damage, or something retarded like that. Best to just move on most of the time.

I think you are getting at that women should have some sort of "Fear" of the man they are dating. I agree, this is required but its kinda artificial. They should fear us because we have money, power, status, or excellent psyique. Fear comes from respect of these attributes, and fear of losing someone that awesome.

This Tom guy sounds super un-impressive/basic, and had a slutty gf. Real TRPer would have ended the relationship or got control of her before someone had sex in his bed. Women will do that if they have no respect or fear of you, I.E. Betas who can't properly control their woman.

Or just really have a shitty woman who gets off on making cuckolds.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

6´6 is nowhere ideal . just saying even in western europe

[–]rijeka11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Holy shit, reminds me of this https://youtu.be/SSTp0rknOgA

Thanks for posting!

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

that was actually well done

[–]PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks op, this is so applicable to me right now. Saved.

[–]1swaglordobama1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just befriend everybody and be socially intelligent. If you're nice to the guy he won't start shit. If he dislikes you for no rational reason then you may have to get a bouncer to kick him out.

Here is the thing man, if I am out with female friends and you aren't nice to me, you are not leaving with them. If you're cool, I will wing you on the spot and upsell you to the girl.

Put yourself in the guy's shoes. You're some rando trying to fuck his friend at best, and a girl he's in love with at worst. Be friendly, social, joke around, show the group you're not just some sexcreeper.

[–]latinasonly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A friend of mine had something going with a girl at his workplace. One evening, the boyfriend rolls with some of his gang and proceed to beat up my friend. Anyone with game would a just ditched the girlfriend and got the next one.

The other day I was at a party, there was girl clearly eyeing me and looking down as she broke the glance. I go over to talk to her and soon two dudes that had been standing near her but not talking to her much approach me. They threateningly "say hey man that's my friends girl, be respectful". I linger around for a bit not saying anything, but there is tension. I think these guys had been unsuccessfully hitting on the girl and it was not the guys girlfriend. Next time what should I do? Ask the chick "are you with these guys ? ".

[–]goodalex1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What a load of shit. You cannot be beta and aggressive at the same time. If your "smv" is low its because you dont have alot of money plain and simple. Sometimes woman will cheat on husband with alpha of low "smv" is she thinks the husband is not man enough, and that comes from the aggresion the low ranking alpha has. fuck this red pill bullshit

[–]tb876707 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

Don't fool yourselves into thinking being muscular is a deterrent. When I was mushy and out of shape I was still able to to lay a muscular ripped guy's face into the pavement until his teeth were missing. Notice lots of chubby-ish country type guys? Cannot see definition in their arms, hard to tell how much of the bulk is muscle mass or fat, yet they can toss 80lb bales and cement bags all day and wrestle 400lb calves into the ground like nothing. Don't fall into the trap of going by looks, that only deters the weak. Don't use that as a strategy.

The end of the post where you say the best thing to do is hold frame and refuse to engage, that is much better advice. So is the concealed carry advice, been in enough fights that I carry a single-stack 9mm now. It doesn't matter whether you can beat someone in a fight because you will rarely leave without damage.

[–]LeftHookTKD19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

90% of those fat fucks have no muscle under that fat.

[–]Casanova-Quinn2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

hard to tell how much of the bulk is muscle mass or fat

A good way to tell if a guy has that "blue collar strength" is to look at his hands. Thick and callused hands are the giveaway.

[–]brian_reddit_772 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep hands and ears. See a cauliflower ear? RUN.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Poster's name: /u/Aggressive_Beta

[–]EscapeTheGoat-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

TRP isn't about violence or anger. People like to assume that must be what we're about but its not. We want people to play the game and play it well.

[–]PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

To have a dagger sheathed is better than having no dagger at all.

[–]EscapeTheGoat-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well sure. But there's a difference between that and brandishing it around all the time like the aggro beta male.

[–]PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

And nobody here is saying to go around looking for fights.

[–]extreme_aardvark 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

What if you’re 5’4”? Am I screwed?

[–]Nosecel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuckin' hell, it's not looking good man.

[–]SolutionBrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

idk man. guy who owned my old gym was 5'4 and he was jacked and a fucking hardcore mother fucker. went to prison for murder and was hardest guy in the whole county i live in. has trained multiple champions in boxing and is a scary guy who everyone respects. however he is a complete whitenight fag and married some fat bitch who looks like jaba the hut. doupt he ever got any pussy and this guy is a badass. ay u fucked.

[–]pohlrich-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only way they can get pussy is either

or low smv pussy.

Btw your rant sounds like you're an agressive beta

Do not be afraid to carry a gun

this whole post just to make this point. you're an idiot.

[–]PM_ME_UR_MOMO_HOTWIF-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Would this apply to those that go postal and shoot up the workplace, or those that shoot up a school, or even the guy that shoots/stalks/ his ex? Would one think that because of today's society (ok to be gay, racism that really doesn't exist, empowered women, insane leftists etc...) creating betas and encouraging being beta, that this violence happens?